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I can't believe I am stuck being la lechera from here to eternity. also are we going to be able to change our email at some point? i don't want my real email to be accessible from the interweb. sorry if this is covered in the faq.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody's e-mail is shown anywhere, is it?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, ok. But still.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link

this is adddressed in the nu faq.

Not really. There are "sessions"? Okay, whatever, but why not put a login cookie in your browser? Is that incompatable with "sessions"? Are browser cookies a security issue now? I certainly don't think I'm coming up with a brilliant idea that nobody has thought of, mind you, I just don't see why this particular thing is something that they can't easily and safely fix.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The more I talk to people, the more I think that almost nothing was done without fore-thought. I don't know any computer stuff but I'm sure there are reasons.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that incompatable with "sessions"?

I don't know the first thing about Java. Won't even pretend to.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

the more I think that almost nothing was done without fore-thought

explain me clear button

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't asked about it, actually, but I did say almost nothing.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure there are reasons, too. Most of this stuff I think either "Eh, that's beyond me," or "Eh, that makes enough sense that I don't care." The login thing is just one of those things that I understand just enough about to NOT understand why it's a problem and I am therefore curious and interested in a better explanation of the process. Dig?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Note: Not curious or interested enough to actually go ask one of the UBERILXORS about it. Just interested enough to ponder "aloud" on my home thread.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, see, I don't understand one single thing about any of it, so I'm a blank and trusting slate.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

actually, it's no so hard to understand; it's standard stuff for long forms with lots of fields. but that's not a good enough reason for it to be here.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

This is frustrating because it feels too much like my job (testing software interfaces for usability, among other things) and I wish I could write QA notes to the developers, which they would have to fix.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

clear button, obv

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

There, here see, what that pesky Jon Williams said on the "Welcome to New ILX" thread:

Dudes, its not that hard to put a magic authentication cookie on the client that will start a new session.

This is what I keep thinking. Except I don't use the word "dudes."

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

so, to recap:

• kenan has a hard on for the clear button
• no xpost previews will create big messes
• plz to return to thread i just posted on, not new answers page
• don't fence me in, and don't log me out
• lobster, champagne, picnics, and butt sex

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Somebody is in the hallway chanting, "Cream cream cream cream soda" and it's a wee bit freaky.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Jenny: The problem is this: The tomcat sessions expire after 30 minutes of inactivity, which means people have to log in again. It keeps track of sessions via a cookie. So, if you keep a browser using the site, you'll stay logged in indefinitely, as long as you keep active every 30 minutes.

However, for some retarded and hard-coded reasons, tomcat sets those cookies with an immediate expiry time "at the end of this session". So, if you quit your browser (on PC, this just means closing the window(!), on Mac you actively have to quit) it'll delete the cookie, and you'll be logged out, regardless of your activity. This is rubbish. And being looked at for bestest method of fixing.

Solution for now: minimise browser window, don't close it. I'll update the FAQ with this too.

― .stet., Friday, 23 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

going to unread messages isn't taking me to the last unread message.

― Jeff, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

test

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link

nut to butt

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

test2

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

stet - thanks, chief! That makes sense. It's putting a cookie there, but it's a cookie that disappears when you close the browser. I appreciate both your patience with all the bitching and your willingness to dumb things down a little for me.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah stet -- your efforts are massively appreciated. and if i freak my shit about something stupid from time to time, it means nothing more than that i am a touch unstable.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It's true. He's about as stable as a whiskerless three legged cat with an inner ear disorder.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

haha

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

but i'm never boring

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

no, that's no true, either.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

THAT NO TRUE

― n/a, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

NO NO NO NO

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:07 (seventeen years ago) link

BOXCAR

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Kevin's out, someone had to.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

you fill hole

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:16 (seventeen years ago) link

So many interpretations!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link

fillweed

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Apparently Microsoft Sam (the free text-to-speech thing in WinXP) doesn't recognize Dillweed as a valid name/word.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Nor "Heb3rt"

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Why, Jordan, are you listening to ILX?

― Laurel, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ILX: The Audiobook

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:31 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it's for work. But I'm having way too much fun getting it to say stupid shit.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Although it can say "Jordan C0hen the housekeeper with the really long and barbaric name yaaaaaaay"

― Jordan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I just read all of my blog posts from 2003. Blah...g.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't understand "boxcar."

I am now at the office, pulling nighttime emergency sub duty in case anyone doesn't show. Yay.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"BOXCAR" is apparently what the grandpa in For Better or For Worse says because he's senile now and swears all the time.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, alright.

I'm still not sure I get it. Is this some sort of Family Circle type joke?

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure about this guys. B-day drinks for a co-worker are at Blue Agave.

This place may as well have a giant sombrero crowning it; the decor at Blue Agave is nothing if not Mexican-themed kitsch. Be prepared for papier-mache toucans, Mexican flags and banners and Jose Cuervo's name in lights. Literally.

― kenan, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

You should be authentic and bring some red hot cheetos with cheese sauce on them.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

that sounds...festive.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Amanda, someone posted the comic on a thread somewhere, and its sheer absurdity turned it into a meme. There was some fun had at Dr. Morbius's expense when some people edited all of his posts on the Noise Board (where everyone has admin powers) to say "BOXCAR" at the end.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 February 2007 22:45 (seventeen years ago) link

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