The Death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri

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Sultan interviewed an 11-year-old boy about the rioting. "I don't know why they hate us so much," he said.

man, that is heartbreaking. i've had students express the same sentiment and never really known how to respond.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link

they don't even know why they hate you so much

j., Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link

yeah

horseshoe, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link

don't know the details yet, but this just happened again

http://uptownmagazine.com/2014/08/ezell-ford-unarmed-black-man-killed-by-police-in-south-l-a/

horseshoe, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link

http://instagram.com/p/rlipIeOuCY

Is this SOP for 'riot control'? Closing down airspace?

http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html

http://i.imgur.com/rRwPK29.png

, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link

apparently the St Louis County PD asked the FAA to do that, claiming a police helicopter was shot at? this time report notes that it also makes it hard for news organizations to get aerial shots of what's actually happening: http://time.com/3105035/ferguson-faa-no-fly-zone/

horseshoe, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

Hah yeah, that just came to me - my thoughts were verging more sinister... still, that's pretty fucked up

, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/lWcDJnO.jpg

, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 03:15 (nine years ago) link

The FAA bureaucracy is still trying to figure out how to deal with both government and privately-owned drones all interacting over this.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link

Can you explain why a black man is killed by the police every 28 hours in this country?

wau

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 03:21 (nine years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/PDPJ/status/499394946416529409/photo/1

ferguson pd's response: bring bigger guns

polyphonic, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 04:14 (nine years ago) link

FUCK THAT.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 04:21 (nine years ago) link

it is sort of heartbreaking seeing grassroots petitions and protests demanding real legislative changes in how these cases are treated and knowing that nothing will ever change until everything, the entire philosophy on what "police" (and prison) is supposed to mean from the federal level on down, is completely abolished and replaced with one that isn't built on sadism and racism. all you can really do is call for the persecution -- or at least the firing -- of the guilty officers. anything beyond that is unattainable because this is how the system is built to function. chop off one leg and there's fifteen more all saying "you can still shoot black men whenever you get the urge"

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 05:55 (nine years ago) link

michael brown and eric garner and marlene pinnock, i'm really upset by all this, share zachlyon's frustration with the difficulties of revamping law enforcement.

brimstead, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 06:30 (nine years ago) link

America why are you looking so much like fucking China or some shit right now, what the hell guys.

the Bronski Review (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 07:18 (nine years ago) link

Cops give a damn about a ne-gro?/Pull the trigger, kill a n***a, he's a he-ro.

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 09:13 (nine years ago) link

America why are you looking so much like fucking China or some shit right now, what the hell guys.

― the Bronski Review (Trayce), Wednesday, August 13, 2014 3:18 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Police officers in China didn't even begin to carry firearms until a few months ago, let's get our facts straight here

, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 10:25 (nine years ago) link

they don't even know why they hate you so much

― j., Wednesday, August 13, 2014 2:55 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they don't even know that they hate you so much. i never know how wilful this is

lex pretend, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 10:33 (nine years ago) link

guy on NPR this morning (heard only a snippet in passing) said that the ferguson PD employs 52 people, 3 of whom are black. patrolling a 2/3 black community. also, there was apparently another shooting by a cop overnight, this time with the allegation that the victim - injured but not killed - had a gun.

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 11:09 (nine years ago) link

America why are you looking so much like fucking China or some shit right now, what the hell guys.

America has always been like this.

Star Gentle Uterus (DJP), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 12:01 (nine years ago) link

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/america-is-not-for-black-people-1620169913

The worst part of outfitting our police officers as soldiers has been psychological. Give a man access to drones, tanks, and body armor, and he'll reasonably think that his job isn't simply to maintain peace, but to eradicate danger. Instead of protecting and serving, police are searching and destroying.

If officers are soldiers, it follows that the neighborhoods they patrol are battlefields. And if they're working battlefields, it follows that the population is the enemy. And because of correlations, rooted in historical injustice, between crime and income and income and race, the enemy population will consist largely of people of color, and especially of black men. Throughout the country, police officers are capturing, imprisoning, and killing black males at a ridiculous clip, waging a very literal war on people like Michael Brown.

http://www.businessinsider.com/police-militarization-ferguson-2014-8

"Why do these cops need MARPAT camo pants again," I asked on Twitter this morning. One of the most interesting responses came from a follower who says he served in the Army's 82nd Airborne Division: "We rolled lighter than that in an actual warzone."

Andy K, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link

https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench <-- deserves a medal for covering the events

bnw, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link

There's an amazing picture of him tweeting while standing around a bunch of exploded tear gas canisters.

Andy K, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Buze9jFCIAAM-De.jpg

Andy K, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/08/unarmed_black_man_ezell_ford_shot_by_police_in_la.html

While the country is still reeling from the news and aftermath of the fatal shooting by police of unarmed Ferguson, Mo., teen Michael Brown, KTLA is reporting that a 25-year-old mentally challenged man, who his family says was complying with officers, was shot and killed while lying on the ground. He also was unarmed.

Andy K, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link


A Black Man is Killed in the U.S. Every 28 Hours by Police
Fri, 5/31/2013 - by Adam Hudson
This article originally appeared on AlterNet

Police officers, security guards, or self-appointed vigilantes extrajudicially killed at least 313 African-Americans in 2012, according to a recent study. This means a black person was killed by a security officer every 28 hours. The report notes that it's possible that the real number could be much higher.

The report, entitled "Operation Ghetto Storm," was conducted by the Malcolm X Grassroots Movement, an antiracist grassroots activist organization. The organization has chapters in Atlanta, Detroit, Fort Worth-Dallas, Jackson, New Orleans, New York City, Oakland, and Washington, D.C. It has a history of organizing campaigns against police brutality and state repression in black and brown communities.

http://www.occupy.com/article/black-man-killed-us-every-28-hours-police

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

ugh fuck this fucking country for real

horseshoe, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

re: ezell ford being mentally challenged but also just everything

horseshoe, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

last night:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu7bdZfIEAAg5js.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link

this is all so depressingly predictable/never-ending

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 17:04 (nine years ago) link

wtf

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 August 2014 01:54 (nine years ago) link

and now tear gas

polyphonic, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

amazing to me that no higher authority has seen fit to rein in the cops if for only pr purposes

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

oh well, war on the streets, states' rights ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link

It doesn't seem like to me that the city government of Ferguson realizes that THE ENTIRE WORLD is watching and tracking their every move. Or maybe they do and just don't care.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

i don't think higher authorities really give a shit unfortunately and never really have : /

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link

The FBI has opened a civil rights investigation but yeah I don't know who is watching the watchers in this case

, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

PaulSzoldra
SWAT using LRAD (loud deafening siren) in Ferguson

polyphonic, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link

hang on, claire mccaskill has made calls to the dept. of justice, may discuss things tomorrow

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:23 (nine years ago) link

Way to be on top of things, Claire.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link

You've had four fucking days.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:28 (nine years ago) link

have we heard of the governor of missouri?

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link

Shit's getting real:

@RealAlexJones 2m
#Ferguson Police Attack Protestors With Tear Gas & Rubber Bullets! Infowars reporter Joe Biggs wounded LIVE: http://bit.ly/1kCmkgt

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:33 (nine years ago) link

(They've pissed off Alex Jones! I haven't clicked that link yet.)

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Thursday, 14 August 2014 02:33 (nine years ago) link

imo it is the reaction/response that was/is surreal, the degree of state repression and media silencing was higher than anything I've seen since the 1999 Seattle protests. not defending the rest of that quote though.

sleeve, Friday, 13 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link

The whole reason the Dillon Taylor shooting was more a back page story vs Trayvon/Michael Brown was because of the massive groundswell that emerged in both cases for the very reason Mordy mentions. Two states far apart, different circumstances, but organizers who refused to let the story die. The mood in Ferguson isn't surreal to anybody but the folks being targeted by the protests and that's kind of the point.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 13 March 2015 00:53 (nine years ago) link

craziness.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 13 March 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link

the deployment of tanks and insane military gear and the media blackout were what was so surreal to me fwiw. and yes, it was probably a citizen. only way this (military occupation) will let up for even a second is if the whole department is fired

flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:22 (nine years ago) link

I think the dunderheaded (to put it kindly) response of local police forces to the protests was 90% of the reason why ferguson became a major media event.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link

in some way that part of the narrative has been lost -- a lot of people had been talking about the militarization of police forces, but now the "movement" seems to be about the obviously related but not precisely identical issue of police abuse/killing of young black men.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link

i shouldn't say "lost" -- maybe just marginalized a bit.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link

and i don't think we have to imagine some kind of 'false flag' operation here... there are tons of people angry with the ferguson police, and some of those people are bound to be hotheads/idiots. and we live in a society with a ton of firearms. it's not unimaginable that this would happen. aside from the cops who got shot--and as stupid as the ferguson PD was/is, noone deserves to be shot and we have no idea what these particular cops were like anyhow--the worst part of this is that it will amplify the backlash a thousand fold.

he quipped with heat (amateurist), Friday, 13 March 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link

well, I don't have much to say about this, but it happened.

http://jacquelinevalencia.com/2015/03/15/thoughts-on-kenneth-goldsmith-and-michael-brown/

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2015 11:53 (nine years ago) link

I don't even know what to say about that

DJP, Monday, 16 March 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link

Goldsmith does not belittle his material as a poet. As Dj Kenny G, he engaged the topic on the air on WFMU the day after the Grand Jury refused to indict using sick humor, but it remains fairly clear what side he is on, especially at the end of the show: http://wfmu.org/flashplayer.php?version=2&show=58274&archive=118775

Three Word Username, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:33 (nine years ago) link

kenneth goldsmith is terrible

1staethyr, Monday, 16 March 2015 16:49 (nine years ago) link

kenneth goldsmith is not terrible.

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:18 (nine years ago) link

his poetry career is... a con.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

i didn't really look into this specific work. my suspicion is that goldsmith is engaging with the idea that the michael brown incident has become a kind of shared myth that people interpret according to their preconceptions. the autopsy report is already a part of this larger text we all are contributing to every day. or maybe the autopsy report, by grounding brown's identity back in his body, his actual body, not the interpolated body the police officer saw -- "the threat" -- is supposed to explode the idea of brown as symbol and restore his individuality.

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:21 (nine years ago) link

Maybe his position as a privileged white artist makes this distasteful. I don't think it's merely provocative though

primal, intuitive, and relatively unmediated (Treeship), Monday, 16 March 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link

he's terrible

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:31 (nine years ago) link

he's a joke

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:32 (nine years ago) link

Sez the joke.

Three Word Username, Monday, 16 March 2015 18:46 (nine years ago) link

i'm not sure if this has turned into a full-blown internet controversy yet, but it's going to be agonizing if it does because of the few things that unites people across the world is the hatred of conceptual art. it's impossible to comment on his performance without at least implicitly making a statement about his work in general. can't WAIT to hear what people think about it!

who is dankey kang (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 March 2015 18:48 (nine years ago) link

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/missouri-lt-governor-more-racism-in-the-justice-department-t#.frMWVpGMr

The lieutenant governor of Missouri says “there is more racism in the Justice Department” than in the St. Louis area, pointing the finger at President Obama and the Justice Department who, he says, often incited “the mob” in the wake of the shooting of Michael Brown back in August of 2014.

challops?

polyphonic, Monday, 16 March 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

actually made the trouble to listen to that. good story.
those wailing parents at the integration meetings made me sick. yes i'll judge the fuck outta them

Nhex, Monday, 3 August 2015 05:23 (eight years ago) link

the particular way the reporter hooked the story into the Michael Brown story was one of my favorite things about the piece -- incredibly effective

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 05:26 (eight years ago) link

Is there any good reason for me to read that?

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:23 (eight years ago) link

I don't know, there are cartoons interspersed

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Like, fuck what he has to say, and I don't mean that just in a light "this guy is an asshole" way but in the sense that it's very unlikely reading the words of this ignorant motherfucker is going to do anything to illuminate structural racism for me better and I don't really have room in my heart for his pity party right now.

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link

the article is a lot wider than just the cop's story, but yeah it's not the ten millionth political piece either, but it adds a lot of detail I hadn't heard before

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:34 (eight years ago) link

Why does this profoundly stupid man deserve to have paragraph after paragraph of his inane ramblings see print in a national publication? It's like reading a terrible facebook comment thread.

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Oh it's such a fucking awful article, it's like Crash in print nonfiction form. I can't.

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:41 (eight years ago) link

Wilson, who is from Texas, is the son of a woman who repeatedly broke the law. His mother, Tonya Dean, stole money, largely by writing hot checks. After completing high school, she married Wilson’s father, John, who had been her English teacher. They soon had two children to support—Darren and his younger sister, Kara—but Dean spent wildly. She left John Wilson for another man, Tyler Harris, who ran a Y.M.C.A. They had a child, Jared, and Darren and Kara lived with them. “Tonya had me in debt—almost twenty thousand dollars—that first year,” Harris told me. Dean, it seems, often repaid debts to one person by stealing money from someone else.

. . . Good values, Wilson insisted, needed to be learned at home. He spoke of a black single mother, in Ferguson, who was physically disabled and blind. She had several teen-age children, who “ran wild,” shooting guns, dealing drugs, and breaking into cars.

Fuck this dude forever and ever, I hope everyone he's related to including his fucking baby die in a fire.

I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

shut the fuck up, both of you

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

I hope everyone he's related to including his fucking baby die in a fire.

uh

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Monday, 3 August 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

just to be clear, that's not what I was trying to say at all, almost the opposite -- I don't think what happened here is really about what's inside Officer Wilson's head, or rather what's inside Officer Wilson's head is a piece of a much larger system. His comments don't seem to offer much insight into anything imo, and I almost question presenting them in this equal time sort of format, although admittedly I just skimmed the article and maybe I'm being too harsh on it. I mean, this is a long passage of uneditorialized text, and the views expressed therein are not very well-thought-through, and pretty predictable. So why?

“I am really simple in the way that I look at life,” Wilson said. “What happened to my great-grandfather is not happening to me. I can’t base my actions off what happened to him.” Wilson said that police officers didn’t have the luxury of dwelling on the past. “We can’t fix in thirty minutes what happened thirty years ago,” he said. “We have to fix what’s happening now. That’s my job as a police officer. I’m not going to delve into people’s life-long history and figure out why they’re feeling a certain way, in a certain moment.” He added, “I’m not a psychologist.”

Wilson said that, despite what he’d said about experiencing “culture shock,” race hadn’t affected the way he did police work: “I never looked at it like ‘I’m the only white guy here.’ I just looked at it as ‘This isn’t where I grew up.’ ” He said, “When a cop shows up, it’s, like, ‘The cops are here!’ There’s no ‘Oh, shit, the white cops are here!’ ” He added, “If you live in a high-crime area, with a lot of poverty, there’s going to be a large police presence. You’re going to piss people off. If police show up, it’s because it’s something bad, and whoever’s involved can’t figure out the problem for themselves.”

He continued, “Everyone is so quick to jump on race. It’s not a race issue.” There were two opposing views about policing, he said: “There are people who feel that police have too much power, and they don’t like it. There are people who feel police don’t have enough power, and they don’t like it.”

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

'we have to fix what's happening now'

'this isn't where i grew up'

j., Monday, 3 August 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

It's not like the writer is uncritical:

In his telling, there was no reaching the blind woman’s kids: “They ran all over the mom. They didn’t respect her, so why would they respect me?” He added, “They’re so wrapped up in a different culture than—what I’m trying to say is, the right culture, the better one to pick from.”

This sounded like racial code language. I pressed him: what did he mean by “a different culture”? Wilson struggled to respond. He said that he meant “pre-gang culture, where you are just running in the streets—not worried about working in the morning, just worried about your immediate gratification.” He added, “It is the same younger culture that is everywhere in the inner cities.”

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Monday, 3 August 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

There were two opposing views about policing, he said

He's not a psychologist, he's a mind reader, but he can only read two minds at a time.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 August 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

I mean, this is a long passage of uneditorialized text, and the views expressed therein are not very well-thought-through, and pretty predictable. So why?

The article critiques that passage throughout its entire length, both through the facts of the case and the interviews with other people involved, which you'd pick up on if you read it.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2015 16:15 (eight years ago) link

fair enough, I'm in a foul and impatient mood right now, will give it a chance later

five six and (man alive), Monday, 3 August 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link

The most telling portion is how the defense from Wilson's former mentor crumbles when he tries to assert that the situation would have gone down the same way if HE'D been involved when the article has already gone to great pains to show that the mentor:

- was gay and felt some empathy to the ostracization of the black community he was policing as a result;
- did a lot of community outreach in his capacity as a policeman, changing the dynamic with which he interacted with the members of that community;
- was in a situation where people were shooting at him and had the wherewithal to remove himself from a potentially dangerous chase scenario and circle back to see if his partner, who had been hit by a bullet, needed help

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 3 August 2015 16:19 (eight years ago) link

There are some good points in that article, where the writer presses against inconsistencies in the worldview of the cop. Darren Wilson uses all the coded language of a racist asshole, and he has no awareness about his own hypocrisies. Like, Wilson has never read the justice report on racism in Ferguson, because he doesn't want to dwell on the past, but he has no problem discussing everything else about his own past, and the problems he saw while on patrol. Just, racism, that's not to be dwelled on, because that is the past.

Frederik B, Monday, 3 August 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

And yeah, that passage is really really strong as well, x-post.

Frederik B, Monday, 3 August 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

Another police shooting tonight, police firing smoke/tear gas at protesters, this is useful:

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/lists/ferguson

JoeStork, Monday, 10 August 2015 07:10 (eight years ago) link

this is awful.

i should know this by now, but where would be the best place to look for updates on this, where the stories don't consist entirely of things asserted by the police?

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Monday, 10 August 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

washington post has been doing some good reporting all year

j., Monday, 10 August 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link

deray, netta, cornell west arrested

http://gawker.com/state-of-emergency-declared-in-ferguson-as-protestors-a-1723175123

j., Monday, 10 August 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

The place to look for news about all this btw is twitter.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Monday, 10 August 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Really good essay by Darryl Pickney:

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/08/18/black-lives-and-the-police/

thrill of transgressin (Eazy), Saturday, 13 August 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

really wish this stuff had come out a couple years ago

http://www.theroot.com/everything-you-think-you-know-about-the-death-of-mike-b-1793261221

frogbs, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 18:31 (seven years ago) link


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