I searched but couldn't find a thread on this, sorry if there's one.http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/06/twin-peaks-2016/
Will it be a great big psychedelic circus ride?
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
there's a lot of discussion on the revival at Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud? , but it might be worth having a new thread for the new series because it'll surely have trillions of comments once it gets going
TRILLIONS
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link
I'm hoping for a nice score, the first twin peaks soundtrack still influences the music I listen to these days.
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link
http://doublerdiner.squarespace.com/
― meh 😐 (wins), Monday, 19 September 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link
i went to the real Double R Diner (Twedes) a few months ago, and like all twin peaks dorks i ordered coffee and a pie. it did not resemble that squarespace photo, to say the least. and the coffee was not damn fine!
- the mayor of Tanner, WA
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Monday, 19 September 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
this is happening and i could not be more stoked. mark frost's novel comes out in a couple of days and the audiobook will feature kyle mclachlan (along with other cast members inc chris mulkey aka HANK, who is not in the new series)! I'm totally excited for this thing but also it will be a chance for me to potentially adjust my frankly unreasonably high expectations before the series hits next year. never read any of frost's books - which include a YA fantasy trilogy and a couple of weird victoriana conspiracy type novels with conan doyle as protagonist?? - but obv he did great work on TP and never seems to get his due considering how instrumental his contribution seems to have been.
one thing that's always particularly bemused me is this idea of frost grounding lynch or keeping him in check or whatever - not gonna deny that frost is a more conventional storyteller and less weird than lynch but his esoteric interests seem pretty scatty and his additions to the mythology are way more unfocused than what lynch comes up with. it's ufos! no actually it's the woods! no actually it's native american lore! theosophy! &c. whereas lynch (when he's actually there) keeps things on point by bringing everything back to an emotional core (the palmers' tragedy) and keeping things thematically & tonally consistent in terms of mood, images &c. er not that you want a completely tonally consistent twin peaks but idk. I always liked how along with his other more radical changes to the final episode's script lynch also brought back the important forgotten-by-everybody characters ronette and maddy, along with leland & sarah palmer, dr jacoby, bobby & shelley, none of whom were in the script.
anyway from what little I know about the frost book it seems to lean heavily on the native american stuff and the x files bollocks which I wasn't so into in the series - ufo mythology seemed really played out but I'm kinda coming around to finding it interesting again now that it seems so thoroughly out of time
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Sunday, 16 October 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
oh also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHRARCb4APA
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Sunday, 16 October 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8c0LIYWyaM
― circa1916, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:10 (seven years ago) link
http://thevinylfactory.com/vinyl-factory-news/twin-peaks-death-waltz-reissue/
― conrad, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link
the new cast list from the wiki is crazyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(2017_TV_series)
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link
slightly broken link, i think.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks_(2017_TV_series)#Cast
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link
and yes, it's bonkers!!
sky ferreira, trent reznor, eddie vedder.
mark frost, laura dern.
michael cera.
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link
First time I ever noticed the similarity between 'Belucci' and 'Belushi'.
― Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link
How did Lana Del Rey not wind up in this
― Alito Shuffle (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link
37 actors returning from the original series:
http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/news/returning-cast-members-new-twin-peaks/
full list of actors who were in the original series who aren't coming back:
http://www.hitfix.com/news/twin-peaks-cast-list-11-major-omissions-from-lara-flynn-boyle-to-heather-graham
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link
feel like the only real loss is Ontkean (much as I love some of the others)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
yeah, i feel the same way. although i think Robert Forster will be good, too.
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
lots of people I wish they'd found room for/were still alive but I love the film and that hardly has any of those people in so I'm good with it
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
I listened to two thirds of the audiobook of the new novel at work today btw, fun stuff. I have my issues with it but it's intriguing, I wonder how much of it will have a bearing on the new show. It's styled as a dossier submitted anonymously to the fbi so you get a variety of historical documents that apparently pertain in some way to an ongoing investigation into cooper's disappearance/some other mysterious events, plus commentary from both the compiler and the fbi agent tasked with reviewing the dossier. Won't get too spoilery just yet but (arguably) the central character of the novel is a minor character from the latter half of season 2! There's some interesting retconning and reinterpretations of characters as well, maybe not entirely successfully. One of the highlights so far is michael horse reading from hawk's journal, complaining about the douchebag who saddled him with his insulting & racist nickname
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link
Wait Robert Forester is playing Sheriff Truman? Fan sites must be misreporting that, right? He's gotta be playing a different sheriff
― Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
no, he's playing truman, this has been known for a long time. Ontkean declined to return for whatever reason
― akm, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link
Gah, I don't see that working at all. I love Forester but he's such a colder presence than the original actor. That seems like it's gonna be really distracting
― Evan R, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
The new rumor is that Forster is playing Truman's brother, who is mentioned in Mark Frost's book.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:43 (seven years ago) link
Ha, I hadn't thought of that, but maybe a cameo performance at One Eyed Jack's.
― Their all losers and I like associating with loser (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:46 (seven years ago) link
xp I wondered if he was setting up something like that with the brother!
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
is the book good? I haven't gone and picked it up yet...has anyone actually read the entire thing already?
― akm, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
I'm skipping around and reading the parts I'm most interested in. It might have more value as a visual object than a novel, really. By the last page you can probably piece together at least one important event that might have happened after the series ended.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
I've finished it now (audiobook, print isn't out here yet); it's worth a look if you're a big fan. I'd say read it front to back as it's short and there is a narrative through line with certain things revealed as you go on (not the identity of the mysterious ARCHIVIST which is treated as this big mystery even tho its thuddingly obvious who it is from the beginning). As I said above there's a lot of weird retconning. It tries to connect a lot of dots and explain stuff that doesn't really need explaining (stuff like references to a literal race of giants which I hope the new series just ignores) in a way that just makes everything messier. Oh and it doesn't tell you anything at all about the new series, or even anything post-s2 really.
― Har-@-Iago (wins), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
I love Forster but he's such a colder presence than the original actor.
This is incorrect! Forster can totally do warmth.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
Wins would you say it gets anywhere near secret diaries level of quality? It sounds like not?
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link
hmmm, I'd say it falls short of that standard. funny cause lynch reportedly wrote tsdolp in a couple of days and this is meticulously researched & long in the making, but tbf the diary is a really impressive piece of work (just read it for the first time this year). Frost's book is a sprawling and sometimes boilerplate conspiracy narrative (masons, illumnati, roswell, other more interesting stuff I won't spoil but will just say he manages to work in some unexpected real-life figures) but it's engagingly written and the more time I spend with it the more I like it. it's also a beautifully produced thing - both the audiobook and the physical book, which I just got today.
I will say that if you're the sort of tp viewer that was bothered by the teens never being in school or the different haircuts in the film or whatever, this book will drive you bananas. I don't really care about stuff like that at all but there's some really brazen rewriting of characters' backstories in this (eg the book says norma's mother "ilsa" died in 1984 - so who was that food critic lady?!)
great audiobook moment: michael horse's reading of the line "good kid, james; noooot a reader."
― did we ever get wizz sorted (wins), Thursday, 20 October 2016 19:31 (seven years ago) link
(eg the book says norma's mother "ilsa" died in 1984 - so who was that food critic lady?!)
black lodge ilsa
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 October 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
heh I can see that actually. "I am the great wentz".
I've been saying for ages that the "norma's mom comes to stay" plotline is the greatest twin peaks plotline so it would be amazing if that were to be borne out in the new series
― did we ever get wizz sorted (wins), Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link
that's an ... interesting opinion
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link
Watching Blue Velvet for the first time in years. I'm not even a big David Lynch fan, but anytime I start watching his movies I want to binge watch everything and buy all of the soundtracks. Also somehow I'm usually getting drunk whenever I start a Lynch Movie.
― JacobSanders, Saturday, 22 October 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link
Heineken or Pabst Blue Ribbon?
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 22 October 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link
King of Beers, but tonight it's Tito's Vodka on ice
― JacobSanders, Saturday, 22 October 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link
I've been trying to think who Bobby Briggs reminds me of and finally it snapped into place! Joel from Dream a Little Dream https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5499/30830639025_fec45050a5_o.jpg
― JacobSanders, Monday, 7 November 2016 04:28 (seven years ago) link
Got the book for xmas and slowly taking it in. Did not expect an extended pseudofictional riff on the final days of Meriwether Lewis to a) be so fascinating or b) have anything in the slightest to do with TP.
― what is the lever disease? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 December 2016 05:58 (seven years ago) link
the identity of the mysterious ARCHIVIST which is treated as this big mystery even tho its thuddingly obvious who it is from the beginning
It seemed obvious from the beginning, but (trying to avoid spoilers) given that particular character's fate on the show, I've been wondering if someone else with the same last name had perhaps adopted the former's speech patterns and interests in the intervening years. Time changes a body.
― what is the lever disease? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:21 (seven years ago) link
According to Frost, some of the glaring factual errors in the book are apparently intentional. This is interesting.
― what is the lever disease? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 December 2016 07:25 (seven years ago) link
Someone bought me this for Christmas. I couldn't make it through all the alien stuff
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Sunday, 1 January 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
I applied the same strategy to all of my research papers in college. The professors always pretended like they didn't understand what I was going for
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 1 January 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link
the errors are not what they seem
― Number None, Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:23 (seven years ago) link
How did Lana Del Rey not wind up in this― Alito Shuffle
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:58 (seven years ago) link
some of the "errors" are too glaring to be anything but deliberate tbh, to what end I'm sure I have no idea but it has got some of the more Mandela Effect-vulnerable TP fans sleuthing away, scribbling in (best case scenario) magic marker on their walls. It also gives frost plausible deniability when it comes to the genuine errors, plot holes &c
― wins, Sunday, 1 January 2017 22:17 (seven years ago) link
four hours of new David Lynch film dropping on the 21st of May
― wins, Monday, 9 January 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
further 14 hours in weekly drabs
― akm, Monday, 9 January 2017 23:56 (seven years ago) link
every time i get turned off by online discourse re: this thing, or look at the mark frost book and fairly or not think "ugh", or get in a snit about prestige tv culture and the westworld thread or whatever, i remind myself that this is the point
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdnwXiwnDaM
― wins, Friday, 13 January 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link
oh is this the spoiler thread now? i love it when dale opens the garmonbozia smoothie stand in episode 5, fuck you all
― early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 25 May 2017 13:57 (six years ago) link
Why does showtime insist on showing me ads for showtime whenever I watch something on my showtime subscription?
― Josh (phantompenguin), Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:26 (six years ago) link
this thread should be closed after this weekend frankly, it's silly to keep one open for people who just haven't bothered to watch what is already available and then cry when people mention what is going on
― akm, Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link
garmonbozia smoothie stand
grossest image in lynch's entire oeuvre
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link
There's always money in the Garmonbozia stand
― Moodles, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link
Yeah I'll lock it in a few days - I posted in this one by mistake.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
New Sheriff Truman is cool.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 25 May 2017 14:51 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He's always been cool.
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link
Medium cool, at least.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
*rimshot*
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 May 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link
― early morning reverse rumplestiltskin rage (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:57 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it was lit f yeah
― royce jung (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link
there's always money in the garmonbozia stand
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link
Where did the connection between garmonbozia and creamed corn come from? I don't remember anything indicating or even suggesting that associatino in Seasons 1, 2, or 3 or FWWM.
The Garmonbozia page on the TP wiki talks about creamed corn, but doesn't give any clues as to the connection! Help? http://twinpeaks.wikia.com/wiki/Garmonbozia
― Je55e, Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
Yeah, it's not even a little bit clear. The Tremond grandson (who is apparently a Lodge spirit of some sort) does a magic trick with creamed corn in season 2, and then creamed corn is referred to as garmonbozia in the scene with the Lodge spirits (including the Tremonds) in FWWM. That's pretty much it as far as the connection between the two is concerned.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
Maybe Lynch really hates creamed corn and finds it to be the purest distillation of pain and sorrow.
― human/hutt hybrid (Old Lunch), Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
So it seems like the connection is purely from the viewers, not even implied in the show.
― Je55e, Thursday, 25 May 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link
It's explicit in the film
― in a soylent whey (wins), Thursday, 25 May 2017 21:50 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ax1ZIpyiY8 - 1:30 here is the link b/w the two
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 25 May 2017 21:51 (six years ago) link
OK I can deal with that. Thanks!
― Je55e, Thursday, 25 May 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
Btw lynch is adamant that this is "a feature film in 18 parts", which is sure to lead to some scintillating debates about lists at the back end of the year
― samovars are trying to steep (wins), Friday, March 24, 2017 12:29 PM (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...unless it sucks.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, March 24, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 September 2017 09:30 (six years ago) link
(tbh, hell i might like this just fine when i get those library DVDs, esp if it's NARRATIVELY UNSATISFYING, but man am i laffing at the crushed fanboy/fangirl thing on my FB feed)
now if you'll excuse me i'm going to rewatch season2 episode3
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 September 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link
This was great.
― Gukbe, Tuesday, 5 September 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link
I miss the Return
Also, this is amazing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZMZEaK4lQ&t=0s&index=2&list=PLSTz8B6AX2CJ4MdKU81AVvGWW2jT2CtMT&fbclid=IwAR10jHQILOqsf9HFyddl45JemaoNynIWsSXWXtIJu7WVkUfW0YqQ4cJuELg
Over an hour of the Return with all dialogue removed, leaving only the sound design matched to imagery (some of it slowed way down).
― akm, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link
awesome! that link didn't work for me, but this one should:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZMZEaK4lQ
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link
i miss the return too
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link
guess i'm gonna rewatch it again in september
december* what is time
i'm in the middle of rewatch right now, starting with OG twin peaks. making my way through the latter half of season 2 and having some fun
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/eMKFDUV.jpg
https://nypost.com/2018/11/01/death-row-inmate-says-lets-rock-before-being-zapped-by-electric-chair/
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
i miss the return
― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
he has been turned into pure energy (xp)
― akm, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
making my way through the latter half of season 2 and having some fun
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:22 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i had a lot of fun with the "bad" (ok some of them are the scare quoteless kind of bad) episodes my last rewatch
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
that was honestly the funnest stretch of watching + podcasting overall
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
i can't believe i watched something like this weekly
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
The only thing I found absolutely unwatchable in my last rewatch was Sam Raimi's brother.
― John MILF Mellencamp (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
for some reason i've enjoyed hank (chris mulkey) more on this rewatch. even in some of the episodes where the writing quality dips, he still manages to be pretty believable as this manipulative slimeball that is somehow sympathetic at times
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
Which reminds me of a theory I mulled over (but can't remember if I ever posited outside of my head) while watching the Return, which is that the Hank we saw on the show was a tulpa.
― John MILF Mellencamp (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
he still manages to be pretty believable as this manipulative slimeball that is somehow sympathetic at times
yeah there's something about those hangdog eyes that makes you really want to believe him
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
I think about The Return a lot. Just this morning I was marvelling at the Green Onions scene, on balance maybe one of the most memorable bits of a show packed with them.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
to think i had dozens of carefully considered theories about this show, and every single one of them turned out to be wrong
― calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 08:43 (five years ago) link
this show pretty much defined summer 2017 for me. what an experience, every sunday night just hopping into this show and having no idea what's going to happen next
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link
i delayed the start date of a new job just so i could watch the finale in peace
― calamity gammon (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 8 November 2018 06:06 (five years ago) link
I was kind of traumatized by the finale. That whole endless sequence of them driving very slowly back north was soul crushing.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 8 November 2018 06:08 (five years ago) link
hey josh az (2011nostalgia), sounds like you could practically change your username to josh az (2017nostalgia), given how nostalgic for the 2017 Twin Peaks: The Return that you are!!!
― del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link
I bought the blu ray but I can't imagine ever watching this again. Such a deep, frightening meditation on evil.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 06:28 (five years ago) link
Maybe in 10 years
― flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link
Wait 25 years imo
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
I’m watching it all the time, all day, wherever I go
― coetzee.cx (wins), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
remember how good this show was
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 May 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link
<3
so many of the cast have died since, so grateful they did it when they did
― nxd, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 11:54 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/hYU6ktr2OG— [ominous whoosh] (@ominouswhoosh) March 24, 2023
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Friday, 24 March 2023 19:59 (one year ago) link