The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

In December, Trevor Noah, a 31-year-old comedian, made his debut as an on-air contributor on “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart,” offering his outsider’s perspective, as a biracial South African, on the United States.

“I never thought I’d be more afraid of police in America than in South Africa,” he said with a smile. “It kind of makes me a little nostalgic for the old days, back home.”

Now, after only three appearances on that Comedy Central show, Mr. Noah has gotten a huge and unexpected promotion. On Monday, Comedy Central will announce that Mr. Noah has been chosen as the new host of “The Daily Show,” succeeding Mr. Stewart after he steps down later this year.

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He grew up in Soweto, the son of a black Xhosa mother and a white Swiss father, whose union was illegal during the apartheid era. “My mother had to be very clandestine about who my father was,” Mr. Noah said. “He couldn’t be on my birth certificate.”

By the time he started performing stand-up in his 20s, Mr. Noah said he had long been taught that “speaking freely about anything, as a person of color, was considered treason.”

His globetrotting spirit (and ability to speak six languages) set him apart in comedy, and he performed widely in the United States between 2010 and 2012, eventually coming to Mr. Stewart’s attention about two years ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/arts/television/trevor-noah-to-succeed-jon-stewart-on-the-daily-show.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

why not aasif mandvi?

Why not anyone? Jon Stewart isn't replaceable, per se, so they might as well sub him with a cardboard box with a face drawn on it and wait to see if it catches on.

Mandvi may not have wanted it? Who knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgZYCj39M38

Mandvi has always had a lot of pans in the fire since he came to TDS, so he may not be inclined to settle down behind the desk. Just a guess.

I think Trevor can handle the job and do it well, but it will become a different type of show once it revolves around him. For one, I bet he cares much less about American cable news.

Excited to see what he can do - I've enjoyed his appearances on TDS a lot

I hadn't heard of him before but he seems pretty good. I wonder how many accents he can do.

His appearances on TDS so far have felt pretty stiff to me.

Not saying those appearances are a reliable metric at all either.

Impossible to judge on past segments (though I thought Noah's were great). I always hated John Oliver's bits, but he killed as host. And Steve Carell was always hilarious in his TDS bits, but couldn't host (or interview) to save his life (he filled in for Stewart a few times in 2001).

I've watched Noah's two specials on Netflix and I've seen his Apollo set linked above, but I'm curious about the lack of footage from the show he hosted in South Africa.

they should've gotten brian williams

He's been pretty weak so far but maybe that's just the writing.

i only found one special searching his name on Netflix ('Trevor Noah: African American'), but it was really funny and convinced me more that he can do the job than his TDS appearances. what's the other one that Netflix has called?

he's really interesting on a live marc maron, fwiw, something which i think pops up in youtube excerpt form when you google trevor noah marc maron

I just watched the clip of his stand-up Slate put up and it was basically a taco truck routine with him doing an icky Cheech Marin impression

The other one on Netflix is You Laugh But It's True, which is a doc about him organizing the first one man show in South Africa. There's some standup in it, but it's mostly about his life.

That clip above was basically his bio in 8 minute stand up form. she seemed very much a personal anecdote driven kind of comedian. I wonder how he will do as a host.

His first segment was similar. He killed it, but it was basically his stand up set so he better kill it.

gr8080 posted this on another thread. Noah seems like another Seth MacFarlane type with extra anti-semitism:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jaimieetkin/some-old-tweets-are-getting-trevor-noah-in-trouble-already#.xdoYLPxdo

ugh

Yeah those indeed read like a bunch of Family Guy jokes.

Yuck. I thought he was better than that, but he's really just Daniel Tosh with an accent.

rip the daily show

he does have a nice, disarming stage presence that i can see working well as a talk show host

His non-response response is pretty bad. Really hope he and Stewart don't do that fucking "Hey, relax! It's just comedy!" cop-out bullshit thing.

that's what they are going to do

or they are going to give an insincere apology

the response doesn't matter. you can't apologize for being an idiot who actually thinks those mean spirited tweets are funny

sure you can

i mean i don't think they will but you could

that's what they are going to do

Oh, I know. It's just tired and annoying and shruggy and lazy as fuck.

apparently his mom is half-jewish - not saying that should give him a pass or whatever but maybe he identifies on some level w/ jewishness. between him and lena it's kinda a trend this week for pseudo-identifying-jews to make stupid jewish jokes.

the one about fat woman wanting people to find them attractive was pretty egregious too

his first few segments on the daily show (the only few, i guess) have been painfully unfunny. lots of awkward silence during time that's obviously supposed to be filled with audience laughter.

if anything i find it kinda sad that these celebs are so alienated from their heritage that when they try to access it through humor they end up regurgitating lazy antisemitic stereotype jokes instead of the very prolific history of jewish humor.

it's like they only know their heritage through the eyes of ppl who hate them

Yeah those indeed read like a bunch of Family Guy jokes.

― Evan, Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:50 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yuck. I thought he was better than that, but he's really just Daniel Tosh with an accent.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, March 31, 2015 9:59 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've described Daniel Tosh "The 'Family Guy' of stand up" so this all fits together nicely.

if those tweets are legit, it's stunning that nobody vetted dude's social media before this announce

i can't believe he literally made a fat chicks joke

i watched a clip of him on letterman. he wasn't funny at all. i don't know why they couldn't get wyatt cenac or, like i said upthread, aasif mandvi. even without the junior high bully humor on twitter i didn't get dude's appeal in the first place

a lot of comics' twitters are clearinghouses for their worst ideas but it's really glaring just how different, in both tone and content, those tweets are from his standup, which can be a little blue but not all lowest common denominator like that

I really wanted Cenac to get the Late Night job that Seth Meyers got, and then the Late Late job that James Corden got. It would've been neat for him to come back to TDS, but I don't get the sense based on the type of things he's done after leaving that he wants to focus on politics.

Wonder what Wyatt went to go do instead of being a correspondent. I mean I haven't researched it, but to the unengaged it looked like he just went back to occasional gigs at the Bell House in Gowanus and whatever else. I'm sure he writes regularly as well? You'd think The Daily Show would be a pretty secure well paying job when you're great at it like he was.

Cenac gets supporting roles in the odd indie film that lasts exactly one week in NYC theaters

wonder if trevor noah will make 30 million per year off of the daily show like jon stewart does

Wonder what Wyatt went to go do instead of being a correspondent. I mean I haven't researched it, but to the unengaged it looked like he just went back to occasional gigs at the Bell House in Gowanus and whatever else. I'm sure he writes regularly as well? You'd think The Daily Show would be a pretty secure well paying job when you're great at it like he was.

― Evan, Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:33 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He put out a comedy record not too long ago, and he gigs regularly. Maybe he just prefers doing standup, and didn't see it as just a stepping-stone to tv/movies.

Right.

Trevor Noah more like Trevor Shoah am I right?

uh no u are not

And, on top of that, Larry Wilmore's show was pretty much the same Daily Show schtick and it WAS funny!

Yeah but Larry's show itself was kind of a drag

on second thought maybe "disingenuous" isn't the right word but RONG is in the running

I watched and enjoyed The Daily Show when Jon Stewart took over. As it went on and people began to take it more and more seriously, it became more and more of a drag and I tapped out sometime around 2012. I checked in sporadically in the last 3 years and it still sucked. I checked in when Noah took over and it still sucked in pretty much the same way it had been for Stewart's last few years. It is not disingenuous to have this opinion, neither is it disingenuous to notice that ALL OF A SUDDEN a certain segment of Daily Show viewers had a big problem with the show's format when a black South African was doing it.

I mean, maybe I missed Trevor's "The Daily Show: LOL Chris Brown Beat Rihanna" special

I will say that it doesn't help that Noah's run does coincide with lefty twitter's rise

or that he doesn't have "was Funny as Daily Show host from 1999-2012" on his resume

i enjoyed the daily show in the 90s/early 2000s when i was a teenager. it was and is an awful lot of toothless, self-congratulatory, smug, liberal pabulum.

iirc a *lot* of people were bemoaning the last couple years of Stewart's run as being on a persistent downslide

Larry's show was so great i miss him. lot of genuine awkwardness and stuff on his show, it felt very honest w little of the bloated self-importance these shows often fall prey to.

yes. it didn't suffer from the pompousness of Sam Bee or Oliver at their worst

but even if you now go back and watch some "golden age" bush era daily show it's pretty crap.

*plays a video of george w. bush making a spoonerism*
Jon Stewart mugs for the camera.

Real mordant political satire guys.

There are plenty of Stewart clips circulating that have not aged well, most famously the transphobic shit

And of course the Rally to Restore....etc is mortifying to think about now

god, that rally. i had friends drive across the fucking country to attend that thing, because they were so excited. it was beyond mortifying. no one even talked about it afterward, like it was a terrible secret, like a good friend barfing all over themselves while giving a speech or something.

in retrospect that was the shark jumping moment for liberal comedy generally; it was all downhill from there

*looks up rally date* ah, so it was 2010 when I bailed

god, that rally. i had friends drive across the fucking country to attend that thing, because they were so excited. it was beyond mortifying. no one even talked about it afterward, like it was a terrible secret, like a good friend barfing all over themselves while giving a speech or something.

― Karl Malone

thats amazing

in retrospect that was the shark jumping moment for liberal comedy generally; it was all downhill from there

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

otm

his last big moment was screaming at jim cramer

Stewart came off pretty bad in that iirc

'massive owns' that are not really good owns no matter how hard people tried to pretend, ranked:

1. Every single Twitter back and forth
2. Delete Your Account
3. "You want it to be one way, but it's the other way"
4. Stewart on Crossfire
5. Stewart v. Cramer

Yikes, that third one is bleak...

It was good when Marlo said it.

Champion: "Drumpf"

"Bullshit mountain"

Ah good, five more years of this kind of risky, power-challenging comedy pic.twitter.com/rW3EHIDUMD

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) September 14, 2017

How much funnier would that joke be without the part after the hyphen that explains the joke? This guy fucking sucks!

i wanna give Noah some credit, he's improved a lot since he started at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44ieAppvBo

at least it's better than this. he's like a fake conservative guy but it's not convincing so the character sucks and he's like craig kilborn with jokes off twitter? the studio audience or laugh track however it's mixed, loud, guttural, hitting over and over again. i feel upset.

Was that a video from the Klepper show? Looks pretty terrible.

https://thepointmag.com/2017/criticism/the-audacity-of-jokes

just saw an episode of this for the first time in a long time - it included a bit about trump and elizabeth warren which ended with noah suggesting trump was ‘woke’ for pointing out warren’s contested native american heritage

umm

noah suggesting trump was ‘woke’

haven't seen this but I've heard they've been known to tell jokes on that show

yeah no it was some false-equivalency bullshit

from the la times

Donald Trump found an unusual ally Tuesday night as Trevor Noah tackled the problematic Elizabeth Warren behavior that spawned the president’s “Pocahontas” nickname.

On Monday, during a ceremony honoring Navajo code talkers, Trump again used his nickname for Warren in derogatory fashion.

“This whole beef between Donald Trump and Elizabeth Warren is a tricky one to process because all the other nicknames that he uses on other people are self-explanatory,” Noah explained on “The Daily Show.”

He illustrated his point by mentioning “low-energy” Jeb Bush, “little” Marco Rubio and “lyin’” Ted Cruz.

Because Warren’s nickname isn’t as readily apparent, Noah dove into the backstory, which included years of the Massachusetts senator misidentifying herself as Native American.

“The way Warren tells the story, it’s been part of her family lore for decades, that they have some Native American ancestry,” Noah said, though evidence has never born that family history out.

“Is Trump racist?” Noah asked, “Yeah. But in his own … way, he’s hitting Elizabeth Warren for saying she’s Native American when she wasn’t. Something she’s never apologized for or owned up to.”

Warren, he pointed out, did something problematic, something conscientious people call each other out on every day.

Noah then made the most unnerving pronouncement of all: “As weird as it is to say, in his own racially offensive way, Donald Trump was being woke.”

ah, I see. He was sincere about it. I don't see the problem though.

hey if you don’t see a problem with giving donald trump credit for his understanding of race then i dunno what to tell you

maybe spend a minute thinking about the venue for this most recent display of wokeness

ok He says "Donald Trump is a racist" but then notes the irony of him engaging in a call-out. Calling him "woke" was a joke. I dunno what to tell you guys.

I never knew the story behind that nickname but if what Trevor says is true ... otm

Her explanation is that her family always told her she was part Native American and she never looked into her genealogy

TDS knew that suggesting trump was woke would make some waves, so they made out happen, however labored and clumsy

that clip of his stand-up routine downplaying the Marikana massacre of striking miners is fucking insane.
especially the presumption that strikes are things to be broken.
the tear gas wasn't working so what else can you do but spray machine gun fire into a crowd?

So new neighbor moved next to us a few months ago. Was walking the dog and chatted with him briefly. Dude wasn't wearing a shirt and is covered in tats. Noticed one tattoo on his abdomen said "Fuck Trevor Noah". Spent the last several days trying to process this.

Like I know from watching my wife and friends go through getting a tattoo that it's a process, right? You have to conceive of the tattoo, sketch it out, make an appointment, wait a while, get it inked, make another appt for more ink, etc. At no point did this guy think "am I making good choices?" or "will my beef with a Comedy Central host subside in time?" So many questions!

maybe it's the first item on a to-do list

Please ask him about it and report back. He wants to tell you about it, promise.

Jon Stewart fanatic

The other arm says "I want to"

You have to conceive of the tattoo, sketch it out, make an appointment, wait a while, get it inked, make another appt for more ink, etc

You're vastly overestimating how long it takes for a stupid idea to be permanently etched on the human body. The tattoo artist didn't have to invent a font to make that transfer.