The Daily Show with Trevor Noah

I watched and enjoyed The Daily Show when Jon Stewart took over. As it went on and people began to take it more and more seriously, it became more and more of a drag and I tapped out sometime around 2012. I checked in sporadically in the last 3 years and it still sucked. I checked in when Noah took over and it still sucked in pretty much the same way it had been for Stewart's last few years. It is not disingenuous to have this opinion, neither is it disingenuous to notice that ALL OF A SUDDEN a certain segment of Daily Show viewers had a big problem with the show's format when a black South African was doing it.

I mean, maybe I missed Trevor's "The Daily Show: LOL Chris Brown Beat Rihanna" special

I will say that it doesn't help that Noah's run does coincide with lefty twitter's rise

or that he doesn't have "was Funny as Daily Show host from 1999-2012" on his resume

i enjoyed the daily show in the 90s/early 2000s when i was a teenager. it was and is an awful lot of toothless, self-congratulatory, smug, liberal pabulum.

iirc a *lot* of people were bemoaning the last couple years of Stewart's run as being on a persistent downslide

Larry's show was so great i miss him. lot of genuine awkwardness and stuff on his show, it felt very honest w little of the bloated self-importance these shows often fall prey to.

yes. it didn't suffer from the pompousness of Sam Bee or Oliver at their worst

but even if you now go back and watch some "golden age" bush era daily show it's pretty crap.

*plays a video of george w. bush making a spoonerism*
Jon Stewart mugs for the camera.

Real mordant political satire guys.

There are plenty of Stewart clips circulating that have not aged well, most famously the transphobic shit

And of course the Rally to Restore....etc is mortifying to think about now

god, that rally. i had friends drive across the fucking country to attend that thing, because they were so excited. it was beyond mortifying. no one even talked about it afterward, like it was a terrible secret, like a good friend barfing all over themselves while giving a speech or something.

in retrospect that was the shark jumping moment for liberal comedy generally; it was all downhill from there

*looks up rally date* ah, so it was 2010 when I bailed

god, that rally. i had friends drive across the fucking country to attend that thing, because they were so excited. it was beyond mortifying. no one even talked about it afterward, like it was a terrible secret, like a good friend barfing all over themselves while giving a speech or something.

― Karl Malone

thats amazing

in retrospect that was the shark jumping moment for liberal comedy generally; it was all downhill from there

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.)

otm

his last big moment was screaming at jim cramer

Stewart came off pretty bad in that iirc

'massive owns' that are not really good owns no matter how hard people tried to pretend, ranked:

1. Every single Twitter back and forth
2. Delete Your Account
3. "You want it to be one way, but it's the other way"
4. Stewart on Crossfire
5. Stewart v. Cramer

Yikes, that third one is bleak...

It was good when Marlo said it.

Champion: "Drumpf"

"Bullshit mountain"

Ah good, five more years of this kind of risky, power-challenging comedy pic.twitter.com/rW3EHIDUMD

— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) September 14, 2017

How much funnier would that joke be without the part after the hyphen that explains the joke? This guy fucking sucks!

i wanna give Noah some credit, he's improved a lot since he started at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44ieAppvBo

at least it's better than this. he's like a fake conservative guy but it's not convincing so the character sucks and he's like craig kilborn with jokes off twitter? the studio audience or laugh track however it's mixed, loud, guttural, hitting over and over again. i feel upset.

Was that a video from the Klepper show? Looks pretty terrible.

https://thepointmag.com/2017/criticism/the-audacity-of-jokes

just saw an episode of this for the first time in a long time - it included a bit about trump and elizabeth warren which ended with noah suggesting trump was ‘woke’ for pointing out warren’s contested native american heritage

umm

noah suggesting trump was ‘woke’

haven't seen this but I've heard they've been known to tell jokes on that show

yeah no it was some false-equivalency bullshit

from the la times

Donald Trump found an unusual ally Tuesday night as Trevor Noah tackled the problematic Elizabeth Warren behavior that spawned the president’s “Pocahontas” nickname.

On Monday, during a ceremony honoring Navajo code talkers, Trump again used his nickname for Warren in derogatory fashion.

“This whole beef between Donald Trump and Elizabeth Warren is a tricky one to process because all the other nicknames that he uses on other people are self-explanatory,” Noah explained on “The Daily Show.”

He illustrated his point by mentioning “low-energy” Jeb Bush, “little” Marco Rubio and “lyin’” Ted Cruz.

Because Warren’s nickname isn’t as readily apparent, Noah dove into the backstory, which included years of the Massachusetts senator misidentifying herself as Native American.

“The way Warren tells the story, it’s been part of her family lore for decades, that they have some Native American ancestry,” Noah said, though evidence has never born that family history out.

“Is Trump racist?” Noah asked, “Yeah. But in his own … way, he’s hitting Elizabeth Warren for saying she’s Native American when she wasn’t. Something she’s never apologized for or owned up to.”

Warren, he pointed out, did something problematic, something conscientious people call each other out on every day.

Noah then made the most unnerving pronouncement of all: “As weird as it is to say, in his own racially offensive way, Donald Trump was being woke.”

ah, I see. He was sincere about it. I don't see the problem though.

hey if you don’t see a problem with giving donald trump credit for his understanding of race then i dunno what to tell you

maybe spend a minute thinking about the venue for this most recent display of wokeness

ok He says "Donald Trump is a racist" but then notes the irony of him engaging in a call-out. Calling him "woke" was a joke. I dunno what to tell you guys.

I never knew the story behind that nickname but if what Trevor says is true ... otm

Her explanation is that her family always told her she was part Native American and she never looked into her genealogy

TDS knew that suggesting trump was woke would make some waves, so they made out happen, however labored and clumsy

that clip of his stand-up routine downplaying the Marikana massacre of striking miners is fucking insane.
especially the presumption that strikes are things to be broken.
the tear gas wasn't working so what else can you do but spray machine gun fire into a crowd?

So new neighbor moved next to us a few months ago. Was walking the dog and chatted with him briefly. Dude wasn't wearing a shirt and is covered in tats. Noticed one tattoo on his abdomen said "Fuck Trevor Noah". Spent the last several days trying to process this.

Like I know from watching my wife and friends go through getting a tattoo that it's a process, right? You have to conceive of the tattoo, sketch it out, make an appointment, wait a while, get it inked, make another appt for more ink, etc. At no point did this guy think "am I making good choices?" or "will my beef with a Comedy Central host subside in time?" So many questions!

maybe it's the first item on a to-do list

Please ask him about it and report back. He wants to tell you about it, promise.

Jon Stewart fanatic

The other arm says "I want to"

You have to conceive of the tattoo, sketch it out, make an appointment, wait a while, get it inked, make another appt for more ink, etc

You're vastly overestimating how long it takes for a stupid idea to be permanently etched on the human body. The tattoo artist didn't have to invent a font to make that transfer.