the Amy Schumer thread

she's having a (v undeserved) moment for some reason. let's talk about her here

someone (forks?) said the 12 Angry Men Inside Amy Schumer episode was the best of the season so I tried to find it on On Demand but it wasn't there so I watched a bit of some other episode where she strips for dogs and uh... yeah that was bad, I couldn't finish it.

aside from her "Cosby trial" sketch i have not directly seen anything by her that i can recall.

Women I know LOVE her. She's like a Lena Dunham folks don't have to feel guilty for being into.

12 angry men ep was not good, but she is funny in general. like last week's whole ep & the sketch w/ justin long 'say fine to the shirt' was solid

I like her. *shrug*

I like her. *shrug*

oh yeah I saw that shirt thing. one joke stretched pretty thin imo.

also every time I see Justin Long now I can't unsee Carrie Brownstein in a moustache

She's like a Lena Dunham folks don't have to feel guilty for being into.

oh they should feel guilty alright

I watched one of her stand-up specials and it was...occasionally funny, mostly painful. Not just the material but also her monotone, blank-stare style that is either natural stiffness or another way to distance herself from the jokes she's telling.

has required me to institute a strict "no schumers" policy at my house

I don't know much about this person but her show was on at the video store (lol "video store") and it was so so soooooooooooooooo bad. I am the most shy and non-confrontational person ever, but felt the need to tell the person watching it how bad it is.

wait, why is "video store" funny? anyways...

I heard some thing on NPR where she described telling a purposely offensive child-molester joke to an audience at a Jewish-specific "event," and i did laugh.

I don't really get what her persona/character is supposed to be beyond a woman that unashamedly talks dirty or whatever, which is just not that compelling. and then there's all the racist bullshit.

providing recap fodder for shit content farms on the reg

i hate amy schumer for making me hat myself for hating amy schumer

anyway fuck correcting a hat

I thought this scetch was pretty hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM2RUVnTlvs

I like her. *shrug*

― polyphonic, Monday, June 8, 2015 5:28 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like her. *shrug*

― example (crüt), Monday, June 8, 2015 5:34 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like her. *shrug*

xp Even w/o having watched Friday Night Lights, it works great. If you have, it's even better.

I'm not going to begrudge anyone for not liking her, though. It must be akin to hating Bill Hicks (which I do) while the rest of the world sucks his corpse dick (which they do).

I was the one who praised the 12 Angry Men episode. that and the season premiere were, i think, big breakthrough moments for her creatively after the show had been hit and miss in the first 2 seasons and i was pretty underwhelmed by the Trainwreck trailer and her MTV Movie Awards hosting gig.

before I contribute to this thread I should get this full disclosure/humblebrag out of the way: Amy Schumer and I went to the same college, and I starred opposite her in a student film. it's on youtube!

part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f64gjTIDfng

part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aySX41ooH6U

I didn't really know her outside of that experience, she was one of the theater department kids who starred in a bunch of the film department kids' projects, including my roommate, who roped me into that, my only acting experience. she was cool and, like, regular-people funny at the time but i don't think she started doing standup until after college and then one day i was like hey, she's on Last Comic Standing! she's on such-and-such other show! she's on TV all the time! so i definitely have always rooted for her and am biased, although i'm able to think critically about when she's good and when she's not.

She did LCS? I think I only watched that the first year it was on (Kathleen Madigan was on there iirc). I guess I never realized that any of the comics on there actually came out the other side with a higher profile than they went in with.

Doug Benson was no her season as well

*on

yeah she was 4th place in 2007. i think it was the first time i saw her do standup (this was only a few years after we made the movie, in 2003), i was like "woah! i know her! and she's actually good at this!".

i remember being annoyed that Benson was on there because he'd already been on Best Week Ever and other TV shows a ton compared to the legit unknowns that are usually on LCS.

i really DIDN'T like the 12 men episode but she's been so good this season in general it's forgivable. think this is one of the best things on tv now

She's v funny imo, show can be hit or miss and her racial jokes are always kinda one dimensional (racist) but like the 2 girls one cup audition episode from season one is hysterical, the high points are high, when its pointedly politicial it's always in a funny way

her iffy race material usually feels less offensive to me than just kind of a formulaic Sarah Silverman-lite stab at "did i really just say that?" type humor. she's really great at fearlessly making herself the butt of the joke but that's one time when it's just kind of hacky.

is that cabbage head thing some kind of KITH joek
xxxp

not really, my friend just wrote a script about a talking cabbage and i think was only vaguely aware of the KITH sketch and was like "oh, i guess they're a little similar, whatever"

all the moms I know howl with laughter at her show. I love all the moms so she's great afaic

My favorite thing she's done is the Charlie Sheen roast. I'm with the detractors though, I want to like her show but it just doesn't work. A lot of really good ideas. Very poorly executed.

parts of this season of the show have been real lowpoints imo -- that honey boo boo sketch dear god

what other shows do moms love, Joan Crawford Loves Chachi?

ellen

I wrote about it on the other thread earlier and I am too tired to get into it more now but I just started watching her and I fucking love her. No shrug. The last fuckable day sketch was amazing. The boyband makeup sketch was great as is everything she's done about birth control. So was the speech I linked in the other thread. I've only seen 3 eps of this season and none of the others so maybe I need to watch more before commenting further but I'm into her. I am not a mom.

I will say that from the little I've seen I can already tell she recycles material a little too much and can veer towards the I'm being gross purely for the sake of grossness (the discharge joke in the speech) but it's so OTT it's almost like she's gone beyond and is parodying everything ppl criticize modern feminists for in a v smart way.

The movie looks . . . not great but maybe I'm wrong. I do have a new found love for Hader so idk. I'm not going to run to see it in theaters but I'm sure I'll catch it on tv eventually.

She's hilarious. Her show's funny and her stand-up's great.

"Have you found Jesus?"

"Oh, we found Him all right."

I like her.

I like her. I am a mom.

She occupies the same space Chappelle does for me while he was on the air -- a cultural observer who could get dark to the point where you thought it wasn't funny, or you were afraid you couldn't laugh.

Which I guess means the fool doesn't need to be funny; just needs to be true

if that Friday Night Lights sketch is as good as it gets, then yeeesh

she's having a (v undeserved) moment for some reason. let's talk about her here

― Οὖτις, Monday, June 8, 2015 9:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

man i would love it if our marc maron thread started like this

or our louis c.k. thread

('b b but louis c.k. is a genius and amy schumer is ...' in 3, 2 ... )

frogsbs disliking her is a Win imo

other than Girls, what else has she done?

buncha stuff of middle level import but i actually meant the "one man's trash" episode of Girls as opposed to the whole series.

Dunham's short film Creative Nonfiction, which is included on the Criterion disc of Tiny Furniture, is easily the best thing I've ever seen from her.

it's on youtube, i'll give it a watch
when dunham is on and focussed, i think she's great; it's just that she's been distracted by becoming an industry and has eighty collaborators and an unrealistic schedule to pump new work out and appears to be having her voice demolished by celebrity

Dunham also (co-)wrote this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1907731/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Haven't seen tho.

i saw trainwreck - most lols are in the first 30 mins, its def too long and idk lots felt off and like sum 4-quadrant pandering but mostly watchable

124 minutes! it's amazing that nobody can ever convince Apatow to cut a comedy down to a suitable running time. at least it's a good 20 minutes shorter than Funny People.

yeah i was gonna say your description of trainwreck is applicable to more or less every apatow movie

oh boy her HBO special was not very good. I like her show just fine, but her stand up was 60 minutes of self-effacing "hey I don't take very good care of herself GET IT?" I mean most comics rely heavily on that schtick, but I expected more from her. Also, there's one bit that borrows really generously from a similar Louis CK bit.

Good, pretty low-key interview with Alec Baldwin.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/htt-amy-schumer/

I like Amy Schemer, but "Trainwreck" - or at least the first half I've seen so far - is a drag. The tone is just off, imo, as it was in "Bridesmaids," which basically plays out like a drama but awkwardly shoehorns in these bits and gags that seem better suited to silly comedies a la "Anchorman." So you (or I) get this weird disconnect, where you hear the jokes, and see the jokes, and recognize them as jokes, but they're sort of not funny. Kind of a bummer.

Trainwreck and Bridesmaids both all-time classic

TW is a little long tho it's true. but both crack me the f up

All time classic in the sense that if it isn't already it'll soon be on cable all the time, and every time you come across it you'll be like eh OK?

I liked Bridesmaids and would watch that again before this, but I don't think I'd ever see either again. Just ... movies. With movie people and movie lighting saying movie things.

Trainwreck doesn't get better.

I laughed twice I think, by the end. It was too long and also felt like it had been cut by a third, which is not a good combination.

As I was more or less watching it, I perked up when some character mentioned that six weeks had passed. I assumed it was taking place over the course of a week! So she went six weeks without introducing her celebrity surgeon boyfriend to her sister? He went six weeks without realizing she was a borderline sociopath with substance abuse issues? And then out of nowhere they bring it back to her magazine story, which was ridiculous to begin with, but which I totally forgot about.

Also, what was up with the fascinating with gore? Close-up shots of knee surgery, her dad getting stitches over his eye, the doctor getting sprayed in the face with the basketball player's blood ... were they supposed to be funny? Gross? Subversions of gross-out humor by being gross but not funny?

I guess I liked all the (easy) Lebron stuff, though it was weird that no one recognized him wherever he went. Or that he was always in NYC. Or that a celebrity sports surgeon would make so much money that Lebron would be more of a financial peer than he is made out to be. I looked up "celebrity sports surgeon" and found a real life analog to Bill Hader, and this dude is worth $100 million: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Andrews_(physician)

And oh man, that final intervention with those sports figures and Matthew Broderick? WTF? They thought that was a good idea? I could barely endure.

I dunno. Apatow is weird and has a weird thing going on.

i don't think of TW as an apatow movie, it's just like watching an hourlong episode of her show with a plot weaving it together. also i think i am better at suspending disbelief at trivial inconsistencies than you are lol

two-hourlong*

It's not just trivial inconsistencies, though! Unlike her show, here the comedy is the inconsistency. Mostly it's like a pretty run of the mill brightly lit rom-com, but like I said before, these random bits are just awkwardly shoehorned in. It's like they had a boilerplate script, and a formulaic story, but then every once in a while it just goes on hold so they can riff on some stuff, with really erratic results. Vs. a movie like, I dunno, Anchorman, which is the opposite - all riffs and silly bits and gags, with a story that occasionally pops up, but not really. (I thought Bridesmaids sort of had the same problem; I still think it would have made a good drama, and probably would still be a solid drama, minus, say, long scenes of everyone shitting themselves.) But this ... maybe it was funny in the theaters, with a de facto laugh track? 'Cause it was a struggle at home. If I had to tell someone the funniest scene, I'd say ... what? I have no idea. It's just there. And I like Schumer.

Bridesmaids works for me although it's a bit long and the cop romance is p snoozeworthy - really the relationships between the women are the interesting parts. Wiig is a sympathetic failure type character and her redemption arc serves as a good framework for all the extended gags/setpieces.

That being said I don't like Schumer at all and Apatow should probably stop making movies (I have a bit more faith in Feig at this point), so I won't be seeing this.

yeah feig is pretty artless as a director but he's capable of delivering the goods on some level, like i would never tell someone 'you have to see the heat' or 'you have to see spy' but his comedies don't forget to be funny (how much they succeed is arguable i guess, but it's still their primary goal) and he's capable of depicting friendships between women in a way that doesn't feel like him patting himself on the back for passing the bechdel test. i like schumer and there were some dark places this was willing to go that i credit to the combination of her and apatow but this was still tedious and just ridiculously overlong. apatow's got this weird 'i have daughters so i understand women, i get this feminism thing now', he's not quite as far up his ass here as he was w/ this is 40 but still, dude is cooked. i was a fan of the dude for a long time, loved ben stiller show, love larry sanders, loved freaks and geeks obv, even loved undeclared, and was very happy when he finally actually had some success but man it has been a while since i've come away from one of his movies or even his interviews w/o thinking 'what a tedious schmuck'.

The Heat and Spy are fucking great. Spy had a couple of clearly improvised scenes that dragged, but overall it was hilarious, especially the interaction between McCarthy and Jason Statham. I even liked a lot of Tammy; that one was way darker than I expected it to be, McCarthy was willing to take that character into a really stupid and hostile space where if you met someone like that in real life you'd just be waiting for the racial slurs to start falling out of her mouth. But at the same time it felt class-authentic in a way movies almost always get wrong.

The Heat passed an hour and a half in a small town with a large single-screen that sold craft beer. Spy was very very funny and also structurally functioned almost perfectly as an action movie. Spectre should have been embarrassed out of being released in the same year.

I don't know anything about her or this movie, but I'm trying to work out why this poster bothers me SO MUCH:

https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/dxnooKU42qpCY9ROJbLIow--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9NTEyO2g9ODEwO2lsPXBsYW5l/http://l.yimg.com/cd/resizer/2.0/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w512/74eae5adb32efd999d3130c1802f9ccf00dcc5c7.jpg

She's saying "wait a minute" right? Or "no no no, don't speak"? or "don't become a trainwreck like me"? And Hader is so photoshopped. And he's surprised by... her hair? And he's in a tux. And it's all about her, but you can't even see her face. And her left eye looks sleepy. And don't get me started on the font.

i think she's saying hold on a minute let me finish drinking this booze and he's like what have i gotten myself into this woman is really into drinking

Ok, thanks. I guess it would help to know whether she's wagging her finger or not.

mordy otm.

i saw trainwreck - most lols are in the first 30 mins, its def too long and idk lots felt off and like sum 4-quadrant pandering but mostly watchable

interesting that on this seasons first ep rachel feinstein came out to being in a 9yr relationship w judy gold (i think?)

& judy gold reteweeted this btw https://twitter.com/trishbendix/status/723549132216930305

& a day later rachel has a new cc special that is like ~50% jokes abt relationships w dudes &c. i feel like they were def largely old jokes

idk honestly w/e standup doesnt have to be real life i just think this was all kinda odd

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/books/amy-schumers-head-writer-on-comedy-and-her-new-book.html?_r=0

supposedly too dark to air on cc (but really? it's not that bad)

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/94dj5u/inside-amy-schumer-exclusive---the-law-firm-of-shrak---murphy

man that's labored, I couldn't even make it to the end

I thought this season was terrible, and I'm a fan. Felt like most of the skits were Amy playing herself and were about her being famous, which even played ironically or at her own expense got tired really fast.

Unexpectedly, Hilton Als on Schumer:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/the-limits-of-perversity-in-amy-schumers-standup

Huh. There are some serious, questionable parallels with his takedown of Beyonce in that review.

New Netflix special was forced at times but still brought the laughs.

I doubt I'll see her new movie, but I'm very ashamed to admit that I LOL'd pretty hard at the "whale cum" joke in the trailer.

her 15 minutes are up, right?

Let's hope so

she'll get revival sympathy as a "pioneering feminist icon" in 10-20 years

Counterpoint: maybe the number of roles available for female comedians at the peak of their popularity are no better or more numerous than for any other actresses. I somehow doubt Goldie Hawn hasn't worked in 15 years just cuz she didn't feel like it. Though who knows?

That said, I think she is pretty hit-or-miss even on her own terms. On her show for instance.

movie sucked

there was a weird PSA at the beginning of amy schumer and goldie hawn in front of a white backdrop thanking the audience for seeing the movie in a theater. it was really odd, out of place, kind of disturbing and unnecessarily desperate - if movie theaters disappear like tower records i'm leaving this planet. i don't remember the organization that the video was sponsored by

We saw the first ep of the new season of "Inside" and, with the exception of a few moments (the punchline of the Hallmark movie parody, maybe) I thought it was dire, like half-baked C-list end of the night "SNL" skits that all went on too long. Oof.

the very mention of her triggers a ton of right wing trolls and for that reason it's hard for me to talk shit but man I just have never found anything she's done to be funny. the one standup of hers I saw was pretty racist too. I really do not get what's made her such a big star all of the sudden.

i liked about 45% of her original series a lot, will give this a try.

Dud.

she's someone i see and i wonder why she thought she should be a performer. or why other people thought she should be. like leelee sobieski or patrick swayze's brother.