I'm still not entirely sure who Kim Kardashian is or why people know all about her

But I just googled pictures of her wearing high heels at Glastonbury

didn't she marry p diddy or smthg?

No, she's married to Kanye West, even I know that

x-post I assume that was sarah's best Tuomas impression because c'mon

Puts Pippa's Arse in the shade.

she was created so that we can all have a shared cultural reference point to project our fears and desires upon

I know it has something to do with how people are consuming social media I this new different way that I seems very hard to imagine for me. Like there's this whole way of using instagram that's not just my housemate taking pictures of all her meals with a filter

Also when you read news stories about things that "happened on Twitter"

She is a successful entrepreneur and a mother.

That's funny, is that from her Wikipedia

No it's a statement of fact

so much language surrounding even a basic convo about kim is shrouded in misogyny

Entrepreneur is such a hilarious word

so much language surrounding even a basic convo about kim is shrouded in misogyny

yep!

so much language surrounding even a basic convo about kim is shrouded in misogyny

seriously!

I feel like there's all these kinds of celebrities, like there's these models who are a gay couple(?) But I don't know any others by name that I can think of. I mean of this instagram culture

I mean I feel like there's always things on the guardian app

x-post you mean the girl with the eyebrows and the lady from st. vincent?

or the lady who is st vincent or whatever?

http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/media/annie-clark-cara-delevigne-2015-billboard-650.jpg

I know there's like a plus size model I saw holding a sign Iwasn't following the point

I've heard of st Vincent I didn't realise that was a Twitter thing

you sort of sound like someone's granddad itt plax

strong crossover w society is in the gutter

I just don't really know anyone who is super into social media and there's all image based platforms that are designed around apps and I just can't quite picture how people attain this connectedness in a literal physical sense, like I can't picture them at the control keys working it, I see some of the images but the workings of it are very opaque to me

I mean I know these things called smartphone s I don't mean this in a faux naive way honestly

And I'm not saying this directly connects to why we should start an intentional community in Portugal

so much language surrounding even a basic convo about kim is shrouded in misogyny

people talking shit about you is an occupational hazard of celebrity. people talk shit about tom hanks, too.

can't say I've heard much shit talk about his body or his sexuality though

ppl save that type of shit talk for Jonny Depp

get back to me when tom hanks made a sex tape and routinely poses for nude photoshoots

actually, don't

It's easier to avoid celebrity news than ever in my lifetime.

Yeah I don't actually feel inundated by this or anything

As a testimonial from someone who doesn't think of themselves as following "celebrity news" particularly closely and is in his 40s (but is nobody's grandpa) here is what the general such person knows about Kim Kardashian:

a) She was on a reality show called "Keeping Up With The Kardashians" and I am pretty sure Caitlyn nee Bruce Jenner was involved in this.
b) She is married to Kanye West (definitely knew this once it was mentioned in the thread, 90% sure I would have come up with it on my own.)
c) I'm pretty sure I knew there was a leaked sextape but I don't know who else was involved.

I don't know things like 1) whether she has released an album or written a book (both seem pretty likely); or 2) what she looks like; or 3) whether she is active on Twitter (I mean, I'm assuming she is based on this thread? But never have I ever seen a post from her retweeted or quoted in my feed, and I use Twitter a lot.) or 4) whether she was married to or romantically linked with other people I've heard of besides Kanye West.

Yeah this is what I know about her but I also know she has instagram followers

a) and b) is what I know about her

She's got a younger sister (stepsister?) who is a model. That's something else. And the family is... I'm guessing Armenian from the name?

I also feel I know she's Armenian but I don't know if I actually know that or if I just assume that because of her name.

xp

d) her dad was OJ's defense attorney

There's this idea of Kim Kardashian that I feel is a shortcut for something but I don't know what it is, something about turning yourself into consumable chunks. V entrepreneurial

But the point is I would definitely say "I know who she is."

Oh that is actually interesting I didn't know that

Oh and her sisters (real sisters not stepsisters) have silly names beginning with K. I know quite a lot about her.

Didn't know d) either!

something else i know about kim kardashian is that a lot of people love to make a point of how they've never heard of her or have no idea why she's famous, and will do so unsolicited

Kim Kardashian: Hollywood is one of the top smartphone game apps

She's probably the most well-known proponent for the US recognition of the Armenian genocide

hey amateurist maybe tom hanks has made a sex tape

even tom hanks sometimes must have to stand naked

I don't know that this is a point I'm loving making

I have heard of her and I've some idea of what she's famous for

I did make this thread unsolicited though

yeah i don't follow the kardashians much but recently it was like, kim is labelled as shallow but she's using her platform to talk about genocide and trans issues...

also she tried to break the internet...gotta admire that.

She said someone nice about my band once.

aw.

https://twitter.com/KimKardashian/status/3069340928

any explanation for how that happened?

Haven't read it in a while but Caitlin Moran's celeb column in The Times on Friday p/much had an item on Kim/Kayne every week - the whole column is hilarious but that's how I was made more aware of them than 'this is some person idk of as I'll never see the thing they are in', which happens with many people.

any explanation for how that happened?

Our bass player was working as part of Kim's media team* and ghost wrote her blog entries. Eventually Kim took over writing her own stuff** and one "hey, can you tweet something about my band" later... Isn't a high-level celebrity sponsored tweet worth 30 or 40 grand now? Anyway, that tweet translated into exactly two iTunes purchases.

*all celebrities at this level have social media teams that optimize all this stuff. Was told that "Team Britney" was to be feared.

**or switched teams (they are all "teams")

http://www.stereogum.com/1815850/sinead-oconnor-says-music-has-officially-died-because-of-kim-kardashian/wheres-the-beef/

Anyway, that tweet translated into exactly two iTunes purchases.

this is like a key insight to how the music industry and social media actually work in our time

Had the tweet contained a link, you might have gotten better results.

when you have the kind of huge platform O’Connor does

lol

http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/kim-kardashian-and-kanye-west-for-system-magazine/

so what's going on here idgi

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/kim-kardashian-american-woman-cover-story-20150727?page=7

Kardashian has not extensively studied the knowledge found in schools; she draws money and power toward her by the force of intuition. On her show, she and her sisters have their own language on issues more complex than glam rooms: They don't know things, they feel things; they don't want something, they deserve it. At the same time that they have championed the waist-trainer product, which bears much resemblance to a Victorian corset, they also exhibit an attitude toward their bodies that can only be called revolutionary. Women have long asked for fair vagina representation in media, for their vaginas not only to be sexual objects but to smell and bleed and pop out babies, and on their show, Kardashian vaginas do all that and more, which is very different than other pop-culture vaginas.

I know its abt the 12th thing to focus on in that excerpt, but "not extensively studied the knowledge found in schools" is so cringey and terrible how was it not re-written

Gross

people went apoplectic that she was on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me a few weeks ago (the NPR show), threatening to stop giving NPR money, etc. Ridiculous; I'm more offended that Prairie Home Companion is still a thing that is on the radio.

Oh God, I knew that she was on Wait Wait, but I didn't realize that it had inspired such outrage.

Those people are dumb.

Nice response from Peter Sagal:

First of all, I just want to clarify something. I wasn't on the show that week and some people think that I was somehow boycotting my own show because of Kim Kardashian. Not only is that not true — I had a prearranged thing to do elsewhere — but I wanted Kim Kardashian on the show and felt really bad that I couldn't be there to interview her. We tried to change the date so I could, but she's a busy woman, so I had to miss it. My only regret about the whole episode was that I wasn't there to interview her, but that's selfish because I think (guest host) Mike (Pesca) did a fine job.

Somebody wrote in and said, "Oh, the whole deal with Kim Kardashian was so awful, I couldn't believe it," and I said, "What did Kim Kardashian actually do that bothers you so much?" Is it that she did a sex tape? Rob Lowe did a sex tape and went on our show and nobody protested. Is it because she's in the gossip columns for her romantic life? Well, so is Scarlett Johansson, and she also poses in negligees, but that doesn't seem to be a problem for people. Was it that she does reality TV? Well, we had on Andy Cohen from Bravo and he invented the modern soap opera reality TV show, the Real Housewives thing. He made it all possible, you know. So what exactly is the objection to Kim Kardashian? Nobody can tell me.

People imagine that she represents something that they oppose. I think our listeners think that there's our world, which is literate and charming and intellectual, and then there's Kim Kardashian's world, which they don't know but they assume is dumb and superficial and is somehow destroying this country. My attitude is — let's assume there are two worlds, let's assume they're right, that Kim Kardashian lives in and represents a completely different world than the one in which we and our listeners live in — why wouldn't you want to talk to her?

For me, that's exactly the reason you would want to talk to her. Oh my gosh, there's this whole other world out there that's interested in things that we don't know anything about. "What is it like to be in your world? Tell me about your day, tell me about your life, let's get to know you." If an alien came to earth, you wouldn't say, "Oh, you're from another planet." You'd say, "Tell us about your planet, what's it like there? What makes you happy? What's a day like on Planet Kardashian?"

My attitude — and this is very much why I wanted to have her on the show — is that she is perhaps one of the most unique people in the entire world. Who else lives like her? Who else has had her success? Who else has had her exposure? Who else has had her life? I can't think of anybody.

pop culture vaginas

I can't think of anybody.

Paris Hilton?

Is the writer short-circuiting?

once, a boy would kick a ball in the street

http://www.rageon.com/products/kim-kardashian-human-centipede-t-shirt

needs more kanye

posts like Yeah this is what I know about her but I also know she has instagram followers or I don't have any real opinions about that but celebrity culture is super vapid or I know there's like a plus size model I saw holding a sign I wasn't following the point or even the thread title itself have a tonal similarity to things Paris Hilton or KK would say themselves - extremely detached but with a hint of curiosity that's quickly dismissed or flattened-out then falls off.

http://www.rageon.com/products/kim-kardashian-human-centipede-t-shirt

― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, July 29, 2015 5:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this site is like the hypebeast spencer's gifts

idg why it isn't just a bunch of Kim Kardashians

It's Kardashians all the way down

When someone claims total ignorance of Kim Kardashian, my main takeaway is that they do all of their grocery shopping at Whole Foods or Trader Joes. It seems impossible to have walked through a standard supermarket checkout line and not know things like who she's married to, who's in her family, what she looks like, etc.

That's a US thing, I think? Supermarkets over here are more likely to have a magazine aisle and a bunch of sweets in the checkouts.

Saw a couple of boys staring open mouthed at the Rolling Stone cover yesterday - I think they might have realized then that a whole new world was out there.

this is from someone OUTRAGED about the decline of Rolling Stone, but I like it because it looks like Lennon is reacting to the photo of KK

http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/first-issue-rolling-stone-john-lennon-kim-kardasian.jpg

https://menwillpause.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/image4.jpg?w=300&h=224

there's something interesting to the kind of anxiety KK (or someone like Paris Hilton) provokes that goes beyond misogyny (while be 100% an expression of it). or maybe it's just that a woman is more likely to invoke the kind of signifier without a referent in a patriarchal culture. like, pictures of John Lennon are themselves a kind of empty iconography that only really attain authentic "meaning" when juxtaposed to an image that signifies only its own image-ness, if you will. the KK haters kind of need her, in that case.

I'm just tired of seeing the face of someone I'm uninterested in all the time tbh, wouldn't go so far as to call it an "anxiety"

John Lennon bringing his duckface, I see.

I guess he does good photos, but I don't see why RS keeps going with Terry Richardson for these types of cover shoots

http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2014/media/179210/_original/1419952874/1035x1407-Nicki_Cover_SML.jpg

He's good at what he's doing, but isn't it the consensus that he's assaulted several women on shoots?

guy knows how to photograph boobs; is also a scuzz

don't boobs kind of photograph themselves

some other photographers should get in on the slimy boob action

Kim! v. Jeb! fite

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To all of my Mom friends who doubt their mothering capabilities, or who stress over their children's well being, or you're just a struggling new mom trying to keep your shit together.... You're doing an awesome job! Remember it's a hard job but it's worth it. It could be worse, you could always be this shitty mom.......

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2 people like this.

I don't know why this under-30 fb friend dislikes Kris Jenner enough that she made a whole post about it.

For my birthday, Kanye got me the most thoughtful gift of a lifetime. A special surprise from heaven. A hologram of my dad. It is so lifelike! We watched it over and over, filled with emotion.

Jesus wept

it was smart of Kanye to not have the hologram plead with her to reconsider divorce. that's the kind of gesture you save for its Valentine's Day encore performance

Tomcruiseheidecker.mov

THE MOST THOUGHTFUL GIFT OF A LIFETIME i can't get this out of my head

Over and over we watched the hologram, letting it fill us with emotion, letting our emotions overflow within us and wash over us, over and over. A special surprise from heaven, right here in our own home, in our very living room, over and over. When the hologram would end, we would get up and start it again. And again. And again. Over and over and over, for hours, for the entire night, a night that seemed an eternity. It is so lifelike! And yet even as the sun rose and a new day began, we remained with the hologram still, getting up only to restart it every two minutes, mesmerized by this special surprise from heaven, transfixed by our emotions. A hologram of my dad. The most thoughtful gift of a lifetime.

lol i had to explain to my bf who kim kardashian was recently and wondered if i was the most qualified person. i was like "she's oj simpson's niece and friends kaitlyn jenner" (who he's heard of) Then we went on wikipedia and i had to explain to him what a bandage dress is and we ended up watching the mugging scene from clueless on youtube.

"Over and over we watched the hologram, letting it fill us with emotion, letting our emotions overflow within us and wash over us, over and over. A special surprise from heaven, right here in our own home, in our very living room, over and over. When the hologram would end, we would get up and start it again. And again. And again. Over and over and over, for hours, for the entire night, a night that seemed an eternity. It is so lifelike! And yet even as the sun rose and a new day began, we remained with the hologram still, getting up only to restart it every two minutes, mesmerized by this special surprise from heaven, transfixed by our emotions. A hologram of my dad. The most thoughtful gift of a lifetime."

That almost sounds like that emotion machine from PK Dick's 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep'.

It's a good job Jay-Z phoned Kanye up and told him to make sure he didn't use the footage of David Schwimmer playing Robert Kardashian by mistake.

now I have the image in my head of David Schwimmer wearing a white nightgown bending over repeatedly and saying "help me! you're my only hope!"