I will keep doing, but not worth it! The 2016 Presidential Primary Voting Thread

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God Carson just join your melon headed partner and drop out.

gaz coombes? yo he don't got NUTHIN ta prove! (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:00 (eight years ago) link

I'm loving "sentient rabies" as a descriptor for the eventual GOP nominee

http://i.imgur.com/Y0Blgyd.png

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:13 (eight years ago) link

Why is the party establishment so much more enamored with Rubio than Kasich? Is Rubio just closer to the party backers' ideology or is it a misguided belief that he can be some kind of mirror of Obama, a "young fresh face" with some nominal chance of increasing the GOP's appeal to the minority group that everyone says is their demographic problem? I don't know if Kasich is a brilliant politician, but he comes off a lot better than Rubio, and I'd give him more of a fighting chance against Clinton.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:22 (eight years ago) link

a misguided belief that he can be some kind of mirror of Obama, a "young fresh face" with some nominal chance of increasing the GOP's appeal to the minority group that everyone says is their demographic problem

Bingo

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:24 (eight years ago) link

Brown skin.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:24 (eight years ago) link

Probably the Medicaid thing, plus Kasich's decision to play to the reasonable audience early makes him look like more of a sellout to the Trump/Cruz crowd and it feels safer to go with someone who plays to the base during the primary.

JoeStork, Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:25 (eight years ago) link

they seem so clueless when they do that, xp

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:25 (eight years ago) link

Man, a Kasich/Clinton election would be such a snoozefest, almost want to see Trump in there just for the lols (although I'm still half-clinging to the theory that he's only in this as black ops for clinton).

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:27 (eight years ago) link

jeb bush -- you're fired! amirite

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 February 2016 03:44 (eight years ago) link

I'm somewhat happy to see Cruz unable to gain any real ground against Trump or Rubio, but a big groundswell for Carson in SC would have been best of all.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:45 (eight years ago) link

I wonder what kind of carrots are being dabbled in front of Cruz to get out and give Marco a shot.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:47 (eight years ago) link

Dangled! Not dabbled.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:48 (eight years ago) link

Is it safe to assume that at least the majority of Bush's support goes to Rubio, and that similar will be true of Kasich if he drops out?

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:48 (eight years ago) link

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Karl Malone, Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:49 (eight years ago) link

Cruz will not drop out. He wants it all.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:54 (eight years ago) link

Trump is hilarious, he's like Rush Limbaugh meets Tony Clifton

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:00 (eight years ago) link

Clinton/Trump will be the nastiest presidential election of my lifetime. Neither of them will draw a line anywhere.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:03 (eight years ago) link

Cruz will not drop out. He wants it all.

― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, February 21, 2016 4:54 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He won't drop out easily if at all, but I'm sure that as much as they detest him, the party elders will try to make him some kind of deal. Even if his voters split half and half between Trump and Rubio, that's a plus for Rubio.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:12 (eight years ago) link

on the bright side, clinton supporters won't have to fabricate anti-latino statements by trump's camp like they did with Sanders, they'll certainly supply them with plenty of ammo

salthigh, Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:18 (eight years ago) link

http://www.snopes.com/sanders-english-only-huerta/

― Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Saturday, February 20, 2016 10:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a relief of sorts but still seeing ppl going after huerta and ferreira over this in a nasty way (lol tweets but its still important 4 me)

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:37 (eight years ago) link

yeah that is nagl, but I'm really tired of discussing "the supporters" as an issue, like the ONE GUY who called John Lewis an uncle tom or w/e.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:44 (eight years ago) link

its def overcovered in online media just because...its all out there. but it sucks.

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:48 (eight years ago) link

so is carson just gonna keep going or

mookieproof, Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:55 (eight years ago) link

He marches to an obscure, mysterious drummer.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2016 05:59 (eight years ago) link

'Movement conservatism' in 2016 defined:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/21/glenn-beck-responds-to-sc-primary-results-join-me-in-a-fast-for-ted-cruz/

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

He marches to an obscure, mysterious drummer.

Or even better:

https://twitter.com/jamilahlemieux/status/701404636738166786

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 21 February 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link

I'm probably more tolerant of the network people than anyone on here, but Chuck Todd is the worst. He was okay in 2008 as a charts-and-polls guy. As an interviewer, he's on mic through the whole interview impatiently waiting to jump in: "Right...okay...right." You know what he's thinking: "Can't let them spout talking points, must cut that short." Fine--if someone's 30 seconds into an answer and rambling, speak up. Not five seconds after you've asked the question.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link

I am devastated about Jeb.

crüt, Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link

he devastated his pants during this campaign

gaz coombes? yo he don't got NUTHIN ta prove! (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

Carson's still in b/c his advisors are still making too much dosh from the process, Producers-style

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Sunday, 21 February 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link

he's got books to sell

k3vin k., Sunday, 21 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

Or like this, basically:

The trickiest question about the Ben Carson campaign is whether or not the former surgeon is himself in on the scam. My guess is that he’s not. Ben Carson strikes me as many things — naive, befuddled, deeply weird, woefully ignorant and incurious about everything other than surgery — but I don’t think he’s particularly cunning. So I suspect he was probably just duped into being the front for this money-making enterprise without ever fully understanding that that’s all it ever was. I’d guess he hasn’t even negotiated a fair share of the take.

If that’s true, then Carson is innocent of being in on the grift, but still not entirely innocent. He’s still guilty of a staggering arrogance. You should run for president, the grifters told him, and he responded by saying, “Yes, that makes perfect sense. Who better than me?”

[....]

Carson gave a (pretty bad, actually) speech at a National Prayer Breakfast, after which a bunch of people said to him “You should be president.” And he agreed with them. He agreed with them even though he seems to have little understanding of what that means other than having the public acknowledge that he is uniquely deserving to hold the highest office....

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Sunday, 21 February 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link

I look forward to trump giving Rubio the jeb treatment. Gonna be savage.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

Problem is the key to beating Trump is having to play ball his way, with schoolyard barbs but also taking the offensive once in a while.

Trump knows as a celebrity that anytime he opens his thrushmouth, he'll go viral in moments. I

None of the other candidates would get thenough proportionate level of media coverage (and if they did, the media will likely still spread it with a Trump lens) but you gotta force the gut to dig himself out of holes once in a while.

Course the easier way would be colluding to have several campaigns pull out and create a three person race and have both people sic Trump but I have less faith that this will happen.

Can't wait for Rubio's first deer in the headlights moment. Guy just cannot think on his feet. He musta been the worst motherfucker at Snaps.

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

-I -nough

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

Gut = guy.
Fuckin Samsung

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

Can't wait for Rubio's first deer in the headlights moment. Guy just cannot think on his feet. He musta been the worst motherfucker at Snaps.

― you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal),

it's happened already!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link

Can't wait for Rubio's first deer in the headlights moment.

Already on to the second, no? No one will agree, but Rubio's actually been much better since his Stepford Wives malfunction. But I think you're both right, he's probably ill-prepared for what's heading his way.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

Trump is gonna destroy rubio. Cruz is probably a different story - he has a sense of humor and can think on his feet, plus he's a cutthroat.

Οὖτις, Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

I mean against Trump one on one. The Christie debate is always going to be classic.

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Cruz also has a hidden third eye in his chin

you are no man. take the balls. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

Why is the party establishment so much more enamored with Rubio than Kasich? Is Rubio just closer to the party backers' ideology or is it a misguided belief that he can be some kind of mirror of Obama, a "young fresh face" with some nominal chance of increasing the GOP's appeal to the minority group that everyone says is their demographic problem? I don't know if Kasich is a brilliant politician, but he comes off a lot better than Rubio, and I'd give him more of a fighting chance against Clinton.

― on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Saturday, February 20, 2016 10:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't think the "establishment" means anything any more, even the "party establishment." Even so, Kasich is too much of an iconoclast, which may be a euphemism for a little nutty; that is, he's neither sufficiently controllable nor self-controlled. I've been skeptical throughout that the GOP would nominate a youthful Cuban-American, whatever their overestimation of his attractiveness, and remain so. But not sure that a Catholic-raised/Protestant-convert Czech-Croatian-American is any more in the party's old, white, non-"ethnic" Protestant male mainstream, which is why I've been skeptical throughout that the voters would go with the guy who comes closest to the folksiness and faux-compassionate-conservatism of W (few of whose Southern "manners" he possesses), for whom an angrier party seems to have little use now. Kicking his brother, a Catholic convert with a Mexican-American wife who likes his economic royalism without a side of explicit racism, to the curb, and pulling ahead of the homophobic, anti-semitic, half-Cuban/half-Irish-Italian Southern Baptist nut in second place, it's the oldest, most racist, faux-religious and everything else but truest WASP (half-British-/half-German-American) who's running away with this thing (at least until the big metros start voting; we'll see), as far as anyone can in a race in which no one much tops 1/3 of the vote. It's a party that, if it does not come apart, is showing its true face, one that Kasich doesn't much represent on the surface.

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link

I will not post in this useless thread
I will not post in this useless thread
I will not post in this useless thread

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link

ty

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Still time for Mitt, but he's too busy either overestimating Marco or being undesirous of going through this shit again

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

rescinded

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 21 February 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link

lmao mitt is not entering the race, come on

k3vin k., Sunday, 21 February 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link


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