Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8daClN2TzJM

we have official campaign pranksters!

http://www.mediaite.com/election-2016/campaign-trail-trolls-dupe-fox-reporter-and-others-into-thinking-trump-supporters-wear-armbands/

lol Settle For Hillary shirts

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/on-leadership/wp/2016/03/14/robot-rubio-sounded-very-human-in-this-forceful-takedown-of-trumps-leadership-style/

dead man walking rubio comes off so much better here than he has in any debate.

they're all on 'well not entirely sure I would support trump' now that it's too late, but I think one of them shoulda taken a gamble and been willing to say "hell I'd vote for hillary clinton ahead of this guy" on stage. it mighta paid off.

ha i seriously doubt it would pay off

rubio in that interview shows flashes of what everyone saw as an inevitable future president. shame about the last several months, huh?

A bit later, he said "leadership has never been taking people’s anger and using it to get them to vote for you" -- the very definition of demagoguery, by the way. "If it is, it's a dangerous style of leadership," he said. "Leadership is about acknowledging people's anger, but as a leader, trying to address why it is they're angry instead of manipulating their anger so they become your voter, your donor, your supporter."

Leadership is about acknowledging no fly zones over Syria and rescinding the Iran deal, you sententious dirtbag.

Sorry, but this moron is a charlatan who's about to lose.

ha i seriously doubt it would pay off

maybe, but whatever else they did didn't pay off either. I think giving him enough credibility to say 'yes I would support him' was a mistake and it made them look pathetic even to the republican voters out there who hate trump.

most recent polls show bernie with a lot of momentum in every state but florida tomorrow btw

i received a very strange notice from the NYC Board of Elections today. It says "DATE CORRECTION" on the front, and on the back, this:

http://i.imgur.com/TxarrMr.jpg

"Primary Election". September 13, 2016.

It's referring to the state/local primary, but this was confusing as hell to receive. It never specified that it's referring to the state/local primary, and hmmmm i wonder what other prominent "primary election" could be taking place before that?

wtf

Headline from the WaPo:

Tuesday Could Shore Up Front-Liners -- Or Give Their Challengers New Life

kthx

Front-Runners rather

(tired, ok?)

KM, you should share that with DailyKos, et al.

one for morbs is this hasn't made the thread already
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

so am i the only one miffed at clinton spouting this "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" bullshit? or do most meme warriors not care?

Re: "Tuesday Could Shore up Front-Runners - Or Give Their Challengers New Life"

Turning to weather, it might rain, or it might not.

In sports, sources say one team will win the game, but maybe the other team will win. Who the heck knows?

Of course it's a lazy-ass headline that probably sits above a lazy-ass content-free speculation story. But as the primaries drag on, with no end in sight, I am also kind of sympathetic to the reporters and copyeditors who have to come up with something fresh five or six times a day. Conventional wisdom no longer applies, and normally reliable polls have been dramatically wrong at times, so what else is there to say? Hence stories that say, effectively, "Somebody's going to win, or maybe a different person will."

In the old days, the newspaper came out once a day and you could file your story then go get drunk. Now the story line changes slightly on an hourly basis and you need a brand and you need a social media presence so you do Twitface all the goldurn time and zzzz. I know I could not hack this environment, not least because it would cut into my drinking time.

Karl send that notice to Gawker, who the hell reads DailyKos

so in NY, Dems are trying... to stop white lefties from voting?

Real white lefties too guilty to flaunt voting privs

it looks like they're trying to stop Spanish and Mandarin speakers from voting

so what could be the agenda then?

the simplest explanation could be it's just dumb NY weirdly timed mailings, but hmmmmmm

ben carson's ringing endorsement:

"The way I look at it, even if Donald Trump turns out not to be such a great president — which I don't think is the case, I think he's going to surround himself with really good people — but even if he didn't, we're only looking at four years, as opposed to multiple generations and perhaps the loss of the American dream forever," Carson said.

i didn't realize the other candidates were up for 'multiple generation' terms. that's probably going to affect my vote

layers upon layers of equivocation in those 62 words

Has this Yglesias piece been linked already? It seems like a very good distillation of all the negatives. http://www.vox.com/2016/3/15/11225128/donald-trump-gullible-internet

Ben Carson endorsing Trump with the same argument my parents used to try to get me to consider getting braces.

I thought the thrust of Rubio's speech was pretty good overall, in terms of his argument against freewheeling angry speech by candidates. He had his share of clunkers but it was about as good as I could expect from
a Republican and also the first time I've ever seen him actually connect with the words coming from his mouth.

He also looked genuinely, deeply concerned in a way I don't remember seeing a presidential candidate look. Maybe he was just fatigued.

It's as though someone found Trump's butler at the local bar, bought him drinks, and let him talk.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/us/politics/donald-trump-butler-mar-a-lago.html

Losing can clarify the midn.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a candidate look as worn down as Rubio.

One of my friends on FB this morning:

The scene: Independence, OH Voting Location, 8 a.m.
80-year-old gentleman: (Handing me a mini-hand sanitizer and postcard for a Republican Judge candidate) "I hope this will help secure your support for Judge so-and-so and Donald Trump."
Alexa: (walking away) "Oh, if it's for Trump I don't want it."
80-year-old: "What!? Trump wants you to have that!"
Alexa: (still walking) "No he doesn't, I'm a woman." (disappear into voting location)
80-year-old: (wagging his finger at me while I'm walking out post-vote towards him) "Young lady! Trump loves women, he has a beautiful daughter who helps him run his companies and a gorgeous wife to take care of his children!"
Alexa: (still walking) "Have you heard what he says about women?"
80-year-old: "That's all jibberish, he doesn't mean it!"
Alexa: (grumble, head shake, still walking)
80-year-old: "I see you're married, hasn't your husband ever yelled at to you? I'm sure he has said things he doesn't mean and you've forgiven him!"
Alexa: "You're not helping yourself here, sir." (slams car door)

Y'know, that old man is right. We all should really learn to forgive the obviously contrite Trump for the awful things he's said over and over but that he clearly doesn't mean.

Trump's hand sanitizer is amazing though. It's the best, it's the classiest hand sanitizer. He uses it in his clubs. Even the blacks and the poorly educated and the women love it.

80-year-old: (dies)

That exchange would make an awesome comic strip.

I gave up lobbying my wife weeks ago, but this morning on the way to the booth she told me she had changed her mind and was voting for Sanders. I asked what was different, and she said the fact that he might have a shot here made a big difference, and that she thought it was healthy to have a competitive primary.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bQky_XaEED4/VucFu3oMJ-I/AAAAAAAAfpk/baDnEqL5aWs7fzvbCItWWeuwxBIZjBQ7Q/s400/Screenshot%2B2016-03-14%2Bat%2B11.40.39%2BAM.png

butler story is amazing btw. the penny thing! wow. also: so mar-a-lago is the merriweather post pavilion?!

That exchange is amazing.

xpost Was that asked of all voters, or just potential GOP?

good question! just republicans. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/14/surprise-voters-dont-seem-hold-violence-at-trump-rallies-against-him

At this point, I think many Trump supporters would continue supporting Trump even if he murdered their own mothers in front of them. Some might waver a bit, I guess.

What's interesting is that the "less likely" and "more likely" number add up to his more or less 30% constant. That 66%, there is no indication whether those voters were ever planning to vote for Trump.

xpost What if their mothers were ISIS? You just never know. Not a week goes by without some kind of ISIS attack in America - it's happening all the time - so better safe than sorry.

“As you may know, Donald Trump cancelled a rally in Chicago Friday night where protesters and his supporters got into confrontations,” Monmouth asked. “Does what happened there and Trump’s response to it make you more likely or less likely to support Trump, or does it have no impact on your vote for the Republican nomination?”

I'm assuming >50% of the people polled haven't even been paying attention to the news about this particular Trump rally, so based on this question, their responses seem pretty unremarkable

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/15/anonymous-declares-total-war-on-donald-trump-again

lmao

weird how my reaction to Anonymous is so much more viscerally apoplectic than my reaction to Donald Trump

the guy fawkes mask is 99% of it though

How are Anonymous's wars against ISIS, the KKK and the Zetas going? Impressive that they can fight on so many fronts at once.