Il Douché and His Discontents: The 2016 Primary Voting Thread, Part 4

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is this a tipping point for Trump?

the latest polling showing him at like a 70% unfavorable rating among women voters might be. i am becoming more and more doubtful of trump being nominated. i think they'll find a way to push him out at the convention, assuming they can keep him short of the 1237 delegates on the first ballot. been reading a lot of stories indicating that trump's people aren't organized w/r/t who is selected as a delegate and procedures at the convention

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ted-cruz-gains-in-louisiana-after-loss-there-to-donald-trump-1458861959

While Mr. Trump leads in winning primary and caucus elections, and has won more delegates, the Cruz campaign is proving superior at the arcane game of picking the people who will be the actual delegates to the convention, where they will help write the rules and ultimately choose the nominee.

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:38 (eight years ago) link

i agree, not nominating Trump is the lesser disaster. if they can keep him short and don't fuck it up...

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link

The republican front runner too busy chasing tail and defending his hands and throwing mentally ill women under the bus to waste time figuring out how this whole 'delegate' thing works.

Eckrich® Pickled Pig Doin's (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:47 (eight years ago) link

Trump always reminds me of the Onion article about the alternate universe James Hetfield being named Taco Bell employee of the month. Without his daddy's cash, dude would probably be some anonymous slob throwing back Natty Lights in his dank basement apartment right now.

Eckrich® Pickled Pig Doin's (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:49 (eight years ago) link

One of the front-pagers at LGM:

Donald Trump is that kid who shows up in your basement and wants to play your electric guitar even though he doesn’t know a single chord. He insists that he’s awesome and can totally rock out better than anyone ever, “better than Jimmy Hendrix, even” — and when he says the name you know he’s thinking “Jimmy” and not “Jimi,” because that’s how goddamn dumb he is. But he won’t shut up about your guitar — seriously, he goes on about it for, like, two hours.

Finally, you roll your eyes and placate the mulleted intruder, because he’s eating all your cereal right out of the box with his gross little hands, and you have no idea where they’ve been (but really you do, you just can’t think about it anymore), and you realize it’s only a matter of time before he gets bored and tries to fuck your sister again or your mom or something worse. So you give him the guitar, show him a couple of power chords, and tell him to “take it easy” as you plug him into the amp.

He ignores you, of course, and attacks the guitar like it owes him $20 and a handjob. The breakfast sausages that pass for fingers bend the strings unreasonably, and he’s got that white guy Blues Face going on, and his hair is bobbing like a worn 7-11 mop, and you can’t even look because you’re suddenly embarrassed for the entire human race. Meanwhile, your amp is spitting out black clots of noise that sound like what self-loathing would sound like, or like the audio track to a crush fetish video. You don’t know it yet, but upstairs, your dog is shitting on the kitchen floor.

Trump, the stupid dicknose, actually does a windmill and totally misses the strings, and the pick goes flying across the room, but he’s like, “Nah, fuck it, I meant to do that,” so he drops down to his knees and shoves his fist in the air and screams “Yeah!” like he’s that guy from Metallica and not the absolute worst person in the world at that moment and most moments bracketing either end of that moment. The feedback scrapes the basement walls for another ten seconds or so, and upstairs, another dog turd drops.

Trump stands up as you’re reaching for the bleach bottle, swoops his pig knuckles through his hair, and grunts, “Heh. Fucking awesome, I’ve gotta get one of these,” as you drop the cap and take your first swig.

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:51 (eight years ago) link

Trump would be a PUA men's rights neckbeard

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 25 March 2016 02:57 (eight years ago) link

did you actually read the article? he's a horrible asshole who supports trump.

yeah, there was no way i was gonna read that article tbh

ulysses, Friday, 25 March 2016 03:46 (eight years ago) link

“If I can’t make it — and we’re going to try as hard as we can until the last vote is cast — we want to completely revitalize the Democratic Party and make it a party of the people rather than one of large campaign contributors,” Sanders said in an interview on the progressive Web show “The Young Turks.”

Sanders also listed policy demands he would make of Clinton, including a single-payer health care system, a $15 an hour minimum wage, tougher regulation of the finance industry, closing corporate tax loopholes and “a vigorous effort to address climate change.”

“I am very worried. I mean, I talk to these scientists. This planet is in serious danger. You can’t cuddle up to the fossil fuel industry — you’ve got to take them on,” Sanders said, alluding to Clinton’s ties to oil and gas companies.

He also expressed concern about Clinton’s consistency on policy issues.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-endorsement_us_56f45bf0e4b014d3fe22b4a7

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2016 03:48 (eight years ago) link

i think "polls plus" uses state demographics too, in the sense that it incorporates results from demographically similar primaries earlier in the cycle?

i think this is actually a totally separate gizmo they have somewhere else, the demographic-based model.

trump and cruz and cruz's wife is so... i mean, if cruz's responses weren't so disorganized and unconvincing i'd really be convinced at this point that this was the real conspiracy all along: trump and cruz making a pact, where trump thins the field out and then at the end plays heel to cruz's face, just piling on the over-the-top shenanigans to give cruz chances to put his hand on his heart, shed a tear for the bald eagle, and defend the honor of his wife and decent old american values. but cruz isn't really so good at that part.

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 March 2016 04:38 (eight years ago) link

they're such weird guys

Treeship, Friday, 25 March 2016 05:06 (eight years ago) link

cruz is like something from a david lynch movie and trump is like something from a david cronenberg movie.

Treeship, Friday, 25 March 2016 05:09 (eight years ago) link

Nah Cruz's face is more "body horror" than Trump

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link

If they can somehow keep the nomination from Trump, how will that dude go out? Because he will not go quietly.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 March 2016 05:23 (eight years ago) link

something roughly sort of like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-LXnDGgek

Treeship, Friday, 25 March 2016 05:29 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQJ8WrKnLUs

ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 25 March 2016 12:09 (eight years ago) link

Trump's been going on the last couple of months about how badly Romney "choked" in 2012. I think there's some truth to that--that election could have been won--but if, hypothetically, Trump loses this nomination because of something like last-minute backlash from women, that would have to go down as one of the most spectacular political choke-jobs ever. He had the nomination pretty much locked up, all he had to do was tone it down a little bit, and he just couldn't.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 12:25 (eight years ago) link

#TedCruzSexScandal

mookieproof, Friday, 25 March 2016 12:37 (eight years ago) link

I know! A Cruz sex scandal will be a big problem, less because of the blatant hypocrisy and more because it forces people to think about Ted Cruz having sex.

Worth it to go back to Nate Silver's checklist for assessing damage:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/electric-minor-political-scandal-acid/

If true, #1, 2, and 3 are serious problems (#3: "Lyin' Ted"); they're okay on #4, because Trump obviously can't be beat here; #5, would depend on the timing if confirmed.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link

If Ted Cruz were brought down by a sex scandal, I'd be okay with that.

http://www.theroot.com/content/dam/theroot/articles/politics/2014/02/katrina_pierson_challenges_gop_incumbent_pete_sessions/katrina_pierson_far.jpg.CROP.rtstoryvar-large.jpg

Reportedly one of the five women, Katrina Pierson. She's on CNN all the time--she's with Trump right now. That intuitively makes me think it's not true with regards to her. Why wouldn't she have spoken up by now? Maybe that was something Trump was keeping in reserve.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:04 (eight years ago) link

The "beans" Trump thinks he has to spill is the rumor that Heidi was a call girl...

Iago Galdston, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link

that woman is too pretty for me to imagine cruz touching her

akm, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:45 (eight years ago) link

She is also batshit crazy, so don't count anything out just yet: http://gawker.com/search?q=katrina+pierson

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Friday, 25 March 2016 13:47 (eight years ago) link

Maybe he found skidmarked undies

Neanderthal, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

ugh, this is going to be very ugly for everyone on both sides, isn't it

Karl Malone, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

Why wouldn't she have spoken up by now?

You had sex with Ted Cruz. Would YOU want anyone to find out?

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 25 March 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link

We hadn’t been airborne long when Trump decided to watch a movie. He’d brought along “Michael,” a recent release, but twenty minutes after popping it into the VCR he got bored and switched to an old favorite, a Jean Claude Van Damme slugfest called “Bloodsport,” which he pronounced “an incredible, fantastic movie.”

mookieproof, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:54 (eight years ago) link

a Jean Claude Van Damme slugfest called “Bloodsport,” which he pronounced “an incredible, fantastic movie.”

Fuck it, he's got my vote.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 25 March 2016 14:09 (eight years ago) link

Wonder if some people will hear "Katrina Pierson" and think of the B-52's.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link

OTM about Bloodsport.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Friday, 25 March 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link

ted doesn't seem particularly loyal to the republican party, certainly not when it conflicts with his own goals. so presumably he thinks refusing to back trump-as-nominee would be a political misstep

what does he have to lose by saying 'fuck that guy, he insulted my wife, i will never support him'?

mookieproof, Friday, 25 March 2016 15:38 (eight years ago) link

it's hard to understand. i thought maybe it's bc he wants trump to agree to endorse ted if ted wins but a) ted is not going to win outside of hijacking the convention in which case there's no way trump will endorse him and b) why does he think trump will keep to his word?

Mordy, Friday, 25 March 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Cruz wants establishment backing ergo he needs to demonstrate party loyalty, that's all there is to it

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 March 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link

Cruz isn't Mitt Romney. I think there's a population of rich establishment people who are fundamentally comfortable with HRC being president even if it's not their choice. But I feel like Cruz much more comes from the group of people who think of people like Clinton and Obama as literally actively trying to destroy the country. The people who think Clinton had Vince Foster murdered (or at least: well, probably not, but it's plausible) and who think Obama is enthusiastically trying to hasten the caliphate. My guess is that Cruz probably authentically would rather have Trump as president than Clinton.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 25 March 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

I can't help thinking of the old Franken & Davis political-ad sketch on SNL where they shoot each other.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2016 15:58 (eight years ago) link

Wow. CNN has two women on right now, one from Cruz's side and one from Trump's, and the Trump woman says "We have to move on," and then proceeds to say to the other woman (paraphrase), "For instance, you've been named as one of the five women who've had an affair with Mr. Cruz--if you deny it, we can move on." The CNN moderator has to intervene.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 15:59 (eight years ago) link

I am having a hard time picturing Cruz having extramarital dalliances. I mean how many women could there possibly be that are into banging Gramdpa Munster.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link

the rumor i heard was escorts?

Mordy, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:03 (eight years ago) link

"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac" -- Hillary Clinton's friend.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

please god let there be a ted cruz sex scandal

k3vin k., Friday, 25 March 2016 16:05 (eight years ago) link

good to know donald trump is around if we need someone to stand up for marital fidelity and respect for the women in one's life

never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:06 (eight years ago) link

instead of terrifying and depressing this election is going to be terrifying and nauseating

goole, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:08 (eight years ago) link

is this being reported anywhere other than national enquirer and conservative blogs?

Karl Malone, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link

man what else do you need??!?!

goole, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:12 (eight years ago) link

same national enquirer writer who broke tiger woods + john edwards i think?

Mordy, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

Starts with the Enquirer, I believe. Dicey, obviously, but the John Edwards' story was theirs.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

lewinski scandal was broken by the enquirer too iirc

i can remember a weird week of limbo where cable news had to gingerly say "well, a lot of people are talking about this enquirer story..."

weirdly i just looked at drudge's twitter for nostalgia's sake and he has... only 3 tweets? did he start deleting them in solidarity with whatever rightwinger said he was getting censored?

goole, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i know they've broken legit sex scandals before, and i wouldn't be shocked if it were true, i just expected to see more about it the usual internet places, and there's nary a mention of it, although now i guess i'm seeing little snippets that mention it, , , , , , ,

Karl Malone, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link

editors are trying to keep their breakfast down maybe?

goole, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link

In the CNN exchange I posted above, the moderator was momentarily aghast: "Wait a minute, we haven't reported anything about this..."

Not today, anyway--I'm sure they'll be all over it tomorrow.

clemenza, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:18 (eight years ago) link

nothing on NRO

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link


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