Snoring

EW. TMI you two.

Ahem if you can hear my snoring in the next ROOM then perhaps that theory does not work.

It amazes me the amount of MUSCLE needed to push over snoring people. You need a good HEAVE-HO.

Hahaha! Heave ho!!!

That was all a bit vague, and probably not much help, really.

I'd recommend sewing a golf ball into the back of your pyjamas, like Emma said.

(And indeed this is the case)

My image of you is destroyed forever.

Have you considered bondage at all?

Haven't we all?

I snore but I can't sleep on my stomach or side, so it's on my back where the sweetly obnoxious sounds of my nose can be heard rooms away. I blame my father's genetics.

If the tennis ball doesn't appeal, you could sellotape a kitten inside your pyjamas.

Also, "shooting an elephant (in my pajamas)" is the worst euphemism ever.

Halfway there!

There are only 3 or 4 methods of fixing this that I know of - some people find that either one or any combination of these help, but I fear/believe there are some for whom none of the below work:

1) General health behaviour - snoring might be caused by obesity, too much smoking-drinking-having fun etc. - you know kind of thing.

2) Nasal sprays, chemicals - based on clearing away nasal gunge for clearer breathing, as stevo said above. (Given what I have read about the physio-mechanism involved in snoring, I'm not sure how these work - unless they are curing a different kind of snoring....)

3) Evil Surgery - there are procedures involving either lasering or cutting or burning some stuff out from the whole area: seemingly not very comfortable atall, expensive, and it only works about half the time anyway.

4) Mechanical - for really bad cases involving that apnoiea (sp) thing, there are devices called CPAPs (summat Pressurised Airway summat maybe) which act like artificial respirators, actually slightly forcing in air when you breathe in, and thus forcing the airway open. Allegedly pretty uncomfortable trying to sleep wearing an oxygen mask (imagine), expensive I bet, and noisy too (can't imagine the loved one getting much less disturbance with an Iron Lung blasting away next to her...)
BUT there are also dental fixings which can be worn - like a gumshield or false teeth I s'pose - which operate by changing the position of the lower jaw (pulling it forward slightly) and thus making the airway more open naturally. These are supposed to be a bit uncomfortable at first, and some never get used to them - I think they also can't be worn if you have certain other problems like neuralgia or some other dental stuff....
When I can afford it, I'm going to try that - my dentist (even though NHS registered) says it'll cost me about £200!

It's just occurred to me that you've probably already researched all this stuff and were looking for alternative suggestions.

1) NEVER sleep on your back. For ages there was only one position which meant I wouldn't snore. Waking up with someone hitting you every half hour means you learn quite swiftly to sleep that way, but you must remember to arrange yourself like that.

2) Sleep with your mouth open.

2) Lose weight. Even a little may make a lot of difference.

3) Get fitter: I think having more controlled breathing may make a difference too.

4) Avoid eating cheese or dairy products before you go to bed: may induce your sinuses to block up.

5) Not much you can do about going to bed pissed => you are guaranteed to snore.

As I understand it Gareth, if the nasal passages are blocked you are forced to breath primarily through your mouth with affecting the throat: snoring fact sheet

It probably is something to do with the stopping smoking, Chris - I think most people get phlegmier for a while, then get better after a few months. However, if there is anything medicine can do, woohoo!

:(

Good thing we're holidaying in France where onions are plentiful. Maybe we should cover the bed in chopped onion just to make sure.

People who snore so loudly that you can't sleep, then have the audacity to wake up and loudly complain that YOU are disturbing THEM due to your tossing and turning.

Sorry, I need to blow off steam; I'm cranky through sleep deprivation.

Grrrrrrrrrrr.

Apaz I snore sometimes, probably when im pissed or have a cold :D

I snore but I can't sleep on my stomach or side, so it's on my back where the sweetly obnoxious sounds of my nose can be heard rooms away. I blame my father's genetics.

otm.

i must learn to sleep on my side
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fucking hell. i'll be chucked (onto the sofa) if i'm not careful. any current tips to add to the above? i had no idea it was so bad but her bleary eyes and fiery morning demeanour tell a different story. i thought it was down to smoking but now i read that some people's snoring *worsens* when they give up!

argh...

i tried the nose-strips, they did nothing

i got some kinda natural herbal throat spray that actually worked for approx. 1 week ... and then it stopped working

sadly i think not sleeping on your back is the most sure-fire thing (unless you are one of those unlucky people for whom any position results in les ronflements)

what's weird is that i HATE falling asleep on my back! yet that's where i end up!

Apparently if you fart more you snore less, as the internal gaseous pressure is released a touch. Not sure if this helps.

duct tape a tennis ball to your back.

Less painful, even more ridiculous solution: wear a bra back to front with tennis balls in the cups.

it's a look

Less painful, even more ridiculous solution: wear a bra back to front with tennis balls in the cups.

these "solutions" are insane! i may as well resign myself to never sleeping with someone else again. hell, my mum seems to have spent half of the last two decades sleeping in the spare room to avoid my dad's jet engine snoring...

Those strips that you stick to the top of your mouth and melt seem to work.

waht

<a href="http://www.snoreeze.com/uk/oralstrips/";>Boots also do a generic version of these.</a>

Bah. Forgot to hit the BBCode button.

I have told all room mates to just kick me and tell me to turn on my side. I don't wake up when this is done to me, usually. I just roll over.

Apparently weightloss is also U&K. Sigh.

i do wake up when kicked/etc. and i get SO ANNOYED at the GALL of the person doing it, er, wait a minute

god i am a jerk when having been woken

I have been known to be so incensed by the snoring of someone that I punched him 20 times in the head, until he woke up. I have also thrown juggling balls across a room at him, and once he woke to find me waving an oar threateningly over him.

He's pretty bad though. Sounds like he's dying in some gruesome and incredibly noisy way.

earplugs don't block it out but they do lessen the annoying aspect of it

I don't know how I ever slept before we got a place with a spare room.

I reckon this is the best solution though I get resentful when we share the bed now and find myself skulking off in the middle of the night not because he's snoring but because I've become too used to a double bed to myself.

I can hear my cat snoring in the next room. It's really kinda cute and not obnoxious at all like people snores.

Ugh I kept my bf awake half the night snoring last night apparently. I seem to snore thru my nose, and I was face down, so so much for the dont sleep on yr back thing. I need to smoke much less.

do breathe right strips work? has anyone here had any success with them?

i snore. it's terrible. i bought this horrible-looking throat foam stuff that I daren't use cos it looks like it'll make me puke. anyone got a better solution?

i've started snoring recently (and also apparently taken to stopping breathing for alarming lengths of time while asleep, according to my wife, which is not at all super-worrying)

tried that foam shit a couple of weeks ago and a) it tasted foul and b) didn't make any appreciable diffence

tried the nose strips too and no luck with that either :(

I'm not a huge snorer but if I'm lying on my back and it gets a bit noisy my gf nudges me and I roll over without waking up. It's a system that delivers results

The updated Sleep Cycle app records samples of your snoring through the night (which you can listen to) and provides a total time spent snoring.

thanks for that

perhaps you should have yoru GP check you out - could be sleep apnea which can harm you heart

Hunt3r, you were saying?

welp. i'll try to keep my snoring inquiries and learnings brief for the mercy of everyone. i was advised i snored as an adult esp if i slept on my back, and would occasionally seem to have breathing interruption. my sleep seemed good to me tho, and i got 7-8 hours nightly and felt fine.

after a severe tbi in 2015 my sleep was/is really fucked up. after 15 months of suffering, my neuropsych brain injury guru eventually prescribed belsomra which was, for me, a goddamn miracle. symptoms which i thought were just characteristic of my brain injury- tons of word-finding problems, incredible incredible fatigue, failure to sleep 2a-6a, really poor info acquisition- improved immensely right away. a lot of my symptoms were, i think, more closely related to failure to sleep.

so i was sleeping much better, but snoring worse according to family, and i was considering re-approaching sleep specialists for a sleep study, which i had sought before, but did not do. do i have sleep apnea? do i need a cpap? do i need to learn to sleep on my side better? my stomach? what about a mouth piece, either the tongue manipulation style or the mandibular adjustment? wedge pillow? tennis ball? how do i know how much, how loud, and when i snore?

i am dumb so i have been trying stuff pretty much as i uncovered them in reading. sitiations/observations:

1. i'm on a break from belsomra mostly (that shit is $10/pill retail, and insurance coverage is a bitch and if you're lucky you can get a coupon from merck that brings it to like $3/pill. it really changed my life though).

2. i initially was like, 'can i spoof a sleep test with a pulseox?' (not knowing that while pulseox tracker _might_ show apnea/hypopnea events, there are so many other factors that, best case, all you might learn is "do i probably NEED a sleep test, or do i maybe NOT really need a sleep test?" there is no substitute for the better information that you get in a real sleep test with pros and accurate data re your sleep cycles and other stuff. anyway, for pulseox i got http://kenekedge.com/ from amazon for like $30. i plug it into my iphone and the results are consistent, cool as fuck, and utterly cryptic to me, a layperson. i spent a little time reading and finding out how to use some analytical tools and interpret what i thought i was seeing. based on my oximeter results with some other factors, i don't think i've got a big apnea/hypopnea issue afaict.

3. simultaneously, because i'm all about advanced scientific methods, i read around about anti-snore mouthpieces. i do remember the first time i ever heard of them was from ned, not sure if it was this thread and i won't search now. the "articles" i surveyed are like https://www.tuck.com/best-anti-snoring-mouthpieces-mouthguards/ which i assume to be an advert, basically. i surveyed for price and the likelihood of success and oral trauma. i did decide to try the vitalsleep. now those fuckers spam me incessantly but the mouthpiece had a small positive effect on the number and intensity of the few hypopnea events that my oximeter finds.

4. there are things called nasal dilators. i bought some called Snorepins. because i'm old as fuck i cannot stop hearing juan epstein saying "up your nose..." etc. dunno if they improve my sleep, but they are damn incredible for running and riding bikes imo.

5. not sure how to sugarcoat this one- you take a tennis ball, put it in a sock, and pin it in between your shoulder blades. on a tee shirt. otherwise that would be punk as fuck. it should be a smedium tee shirt, otherwise it won't stay where u want it. i'm sad to say this works to get you to sleep on your side. it kinda sucks in the middle of the night, and it really sucks if you have severely bruised/possibly broken ribs for the nth time cause you suck at bike riding. but you will not sleep on your back. i love this method's simplicity.

6. i've been trying Snorelog, an app that records your sleep when you are making snoring sounds (or when your cat meows). this thing is initially free, but i do think the premium version is worth the one-time fee of $10 to allow tracking and recording of my trial and error stuff. their UI and software is WAY WAY better than the pulseox's, for example. for me, i found that my snoring with the mouthguard is not too frequent, it's mostly "light" noise, rarely "loud" noise, and never "epic" noise. fascinating to me is that, at least with the mouthguard, my sounds are almost never a "snore." it's _really loud breathing_. like, inhales and exhales, not palate/uvula/whatever vibes. i played it for my partner, and i'm like "is THIS what you say is snoring? because THAT is not snoring! she says 'it is.' *a different fight ensues*.

7. by request and at my acceptance of a problem, i've reduced my drink consumption to 0. now i'm more stressed, and occasionally more bored. whether or not i "snore" less, i will deny the fuck out the possibility that teetotalling has improved anything snore-related, in vain hope that the sweet, sweet alcohol will return soon. obv jk on the last part, but i don't know that it helped reduce snoring.

so anyway, i'm still playing with my sleeping sitch to reduce ~sounds~, whatever the fuck they are.

Go the sleep lab route. I did, was diagnosed with sleep apnea, got a CPAP machine which basically resolved all my issues (chronic tiredness, waking myself up constantly, partner refusing to sleep in the same bed, etc). I can't say I'm overjoyed with the thought of being hooked up to a machine every night for the rest of my life - but the constant tiredness was driving me literally insane.

this is all super interesting!

> take a tennis ball

literally the second post on this thread says the same thing. 8)