It's either that or parley with the waif.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:41 (seven years ago) link
*Arya takes off mask. It's waif. Waif takes off mask. It's a sheep rustler. Sheep rustler takes off mask. It's Sawyer. Sawyer takes off mask. It's horse.*
― germane geir hongro (s.clover), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
loved bean as sawyer
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izJbgzP1tRA
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
https://thewholedangthing.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/meddlingkids1.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:25 (seven years ago) link
Did not know King Diamond did an episode of Scooby Doo.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
And he would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link
The faceless thing is the nadir of the show this far. It's so boring and the kind of magic it is seems like a bad fit for the show over all. It stands out like a sore thumb.
― Analogue Bubblebutt (jed_), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
Disagree. It has went on a bit long but I think it's one of the more interesting parts.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
lol at the nadir of the show being anything but the treatment of dorne overall (and a fair amount of it is boring in the books too)
― pratt truss it (dan m), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
It's kinda funny that they just killed off half the characters in the premiere, and then didn't do anything about it since. They've even stopped talking about it. We're never going to hear anything more about Dorne again, I don't think, and that's probably for the best. Complete misfire.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
They're obviously going to attack King's Landing.
Generally Daenerys storylines are the least interesting ones to me.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
Got no shame saying Tyrion stuff has always been the best, of course he is banished to wherever to do whatever. Even reading the two books that I did GRRM clearly had more fun writing him than writing nearly anything else.
Ever since that Maester column brought it up I've been sort of fascinated by a potential paradox the show/books have introduced, whether I'm watching/reading or not, namely that GRRM has consistently subverted (or at least resisted) many fantasy/adventure tropes even as the story he has created keeps funneling him toward those same 9unavoidable?) fantasy/adventure tropes. I'm curious to see how long either mediums can go while resisting fully embracing the very tropes and cliches that have driven stories for millennia. Like, are there fundamental, almost formall rules (which is to say, cliches) that almost all eventually *must* be followed, the equivalent of the 180 degree rule in film? Will it inevitably devolve into a clear tale of good vs. evil, or will it stay muddy/confused/unfulfilled? And in the case of the latter, how would that sit with readers/viewers, and particular viewers, conditioned to expect something cleaner and more obvious? It's a tricky one.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link
i would say the dorne stuff might pay off in an interesting way at king's landing with some kind of attack, yeah. my suspicion is that with cersei focused on revenge and tommen focused on converting so he can get laid (a failed endeavor it might seem though it sounds like he's whining to the high sparrow about it) and jaime lannister fighting up north, they're missing out on a dorne army massing and heading in their direction. i wouldn't be surprised if the final episode involves that somehow, along with daenerys finally sailing forth and the white walkers breaking through the wall while sansa and jon play soccer with ramsay's head. one caveat on that last point would be that i'm going to be mildly surprised if theon isn't involved in ramsay's comeuppance. but who knows.
― nomar, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
as bad as the dorne stuff was it didn't bore me quite as much and for quite as long as the faceless stuff has, it feels like they could have treated arya like they did bran and had her skip a season with little ill effect. but in its defence my laptop screen is pretty shitty and i can never tell what's going on in those super dark faceless hq scenes
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link
Maisie / Arya too popular to sit out a whole season.
― Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
Ever since Bran had that vision of the Mad King I've been wondering if they're setting up someone finishing what we he started--destroying Kings Landing with the hidden oil. Maybe the Sparrows, sensing defeat or Tommen in a religious fervor or Cersei in an act of revenge.
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 June 2016 01:29 (seven years ago) link
that wildfire is totes going off sooner rather than later
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 9 June 2016 02:05 (seven years ago) link
I thought they used it up at the Blackwater
― Gukbe, Thursday, 9 June 2016 02:11 (seven years ago) link
GRRM has consistently subverted (or at least resisted) many fantasy/adventure tropes even as the story he has created keeps funneling him toward those same (unavoidable?) fantasy/adventure tropes. I'm curious to see how long either mediums can go while resisting fully embracing the very tropes and cliches that have driven stories for millennia.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, June 8, 2016 6:17 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wait, wait. what if he's been trying to write to those tropes all along and he's just really bad at it
― germane geir hongro (s.clover), Thursday, 9 June 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link
oh shit i accidentally killed my protagonist fuck
― Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
http://img.ifcdn.com/images/a38d230802b56d30de61e0f1bac0b1cc65bd1e27f1fec528c92c5d1ad4b987ea_3.jpg
― nomar, Thursday, 9 June 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link
The faceless stuff is just really boring, they've done a really bad job of creating any sense of magic or mystery to it, mostly because it was largely just three characters standing around a dull set and talking / hitting one another with sticks. Again and again and again.
If the end point is Arya becoming some awesome masked assassin then there are so many more watchable and interesting ways they could have done it. As it stands it's a complete waste of one of the best characters in the show.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 June 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link
Episode 9's title is a massive spoiler.
Episode 10 is going to clock in at 69 minutes. Both directed by Sapochnik who did last season's Hardhome episode.
― groovypanda, Thursday, 9 June 2016 09:44 (seven years ago) link
The problem with Arya's arc since splitting from The Hound is she gets zero 'fun' interaction with other key characters and it's not clear who she'll be running into next. They crushed the life out of the Jaqen character too - both should join the playgroup ("fuck a many faced god, a man shall tread the boards!").
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:08 (seven years ago) link
"you must become no one" is p much what they tell you at acting school.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:10 (seven years ago) link
"a man must be unemployed"
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link
Jaqen should start a brothel instead. He's basically a pimp trying to break Arya in.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:15 (seven years ago) link
Episode 9's title is a massive spoiler
Not really given that the entire season has been building up to it. Literally everyone who's been paying attention to the show (and how previous seasons have been structured) knows what they're going to do in Episode 9.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:19 (seven years ago) link
If anyone but Brienne kills Ramsay I riot.
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:24 (seven years ago) link
why? they've barely even met.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 June 2016 10:33 (seven years ago) link
Sansa would be better.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link
exactly
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:15 (seven years ago) link
i guess when i think of joffrey's death it's more that i want him to have a horrible and shocking death, perhaps interrupting hubris, rather than some solemn moral act of revenge.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:16 (seven years ago) link
Don't really see Sansa ever killing anyone directly. I think he needs a v slow agonising bloody death and Brienne is best primed for that (he's barely met anyone and a confrontation between them is surely planned) - or I suppose he could be gangshanked like Jon was.
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:17 (seven years ago) link
Don't really see Sansa ever killing anyone directly.
Oh I can definitely imagine her taking pleasure over killing Ramsay in her current state.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:20 (seven years ago) link
Jon and Ramsay haven't met have they?
It should be whatshisname, reek, who kills Bolton. Geography might make that difficult at the moment.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 9 June 2016 11:47 (seven years ago) link
feel like Sansa's gonna die soon
― sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 9 June 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link
would be a classic got move if ramsey kills jon snow
― Mordy, Thursday, 9 June 2016 13:14 (seven years ago) link
Ramsey will be killed by a mule
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 June 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link
killed by his dogs
― conrad, Thursday, 9 June 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link
Ramsay will flay himself.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link
I'm looking at that title for episode 9 and all I can think of is Daniel Day-Lewis yelling "Bastard in a basket! Bastard in a basket!" near the end of There Will Be Blood.
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link
I think it might feel odd because it seems wrongly timed? Names for battles tend to come much later than the battle, so knowing the name of a battle beforehand seems odd.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 9 June 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
Could be worse: could be called 'The First Battle of th Bastards'. But it does imply some resolution between the two.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 9 June 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link
Chances of Ramsay being torn to pieces by wolves are probably pretty high actually.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 June 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
I'm trying to avoid spoilers please
― kinder, Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
Well Littlefinger's a total bastard, maybe he'll show up.
― albvivertine, Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:21 (seven years ago) link
Every time someone says "winter is coming" I'm like fuck off with your spoilers.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link