Euron seems like a good antagonist. better to have a cackling glam pirate than a dinner table sadist like ramsay.
― nomar, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
I do like the idea of a guy who basically hijacks the kingship of a shithole land just to strip it of its trees and build a fleet he can use to sail around and swing his dick at everything
― President Keyes, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
the books and early seasons felt as if they had some substance you could dig into, and while grrm is tying himself in knots trying to maintain that in the books, the show has gleefully jettisoned the conceit and we just have surface now, theater, spectacle and set pieces, often very entertaining and i believe worthwhile in its own right but not the same thing as it was.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
and the thing with euron's armada is not just building the ships, which is logistically improbably enough on its own, but the crewing of them. their whole fleet has just fucked off, exactly how many sailors are still around? and hell, they're a rape and pillage based economy, how much of the adult population just left?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link
it doesn't matter anymore. there were big ships and fire. it was good.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
Theon and sis only took the best ships (about 50?) from the fleet. Doesn't seem like it would drain the entire population to man that many boats.
― President Keyes, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
I have been enjoying Jim Broadbent, he's way overqualified for that role
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
But yeah they're running full on with the "only nerds care about some of these details" mindset now
― President Keyes, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
Nah. I wish they would run full on with that. Instead of wasting time arguing whether or not it's 'right' for Jon to go to Dragonstone.
― Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
It was just a way to show more tension with Sansa, and so we could see Littlefinger sneer.
― President Keyes, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
just wait till they hold off for like four more episodes till Jon and Dany even bang xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
god, Sophie Turner is so awful
I laughed out loud when Dani said, "Bend the knee." (see Chapo thread)
― President Keyes, Monday, 24 July 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
yeah same lol
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
especially the way she said it after a dramatic beat, and that it was spoken by the character most frequently mocked by dirtbags
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
and the thing with euron's armada is not just building the ships, which is logistically improbably enough on its own, but the crewing of them. their whole fleet has just fucked off, exactly how many sailors are still around? and hell, they're a rape and pillage based economy, how much of the adult population just left?― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, July 24, 2017 6:39 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, July 24, 2017 6:39 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and that his dope new fleet is equipped with machine gun cannons firing explosive ordinance
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
lol. contrasted with qyburn's super secret anti-dragon tech being a bog standard piece of iron age artillery.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link
Just picturing the GoT writers' room puzzling over how to give Cersei's army a chance against the dragons and someone saying, "Wait, have any of you ever read this book, 'The Hobbit?'"
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 24 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
Yara could take only the crew loyal to her over Euron and was outnumbered by the latter's followers and fleet. He also knew they'd attempt to ally with Danaerys as that was his own plan he revealed upon his return. It all made relative sense (handwaving timespan required for one or two things as you have to do every episode now).
― nashwan, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
Was kinda hoping Qyburn's plan involved just building a wheeled wooden AT-AT with the dragon skull as its head but nm.
― nashwan, Monday, 24 July 2017 19:52 (six years ago) link
half thought some harryhausen skeleton dragon shit was coming up
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
― President Keyes, Monday, July 24, 2017 11:52 AM (one hour ago)
Not really -- it also showed that Jon is capable of learning politics: he left the local management with Sansa, who has the best chance of maintaining the obedience of the Northern lords, and who had previously complained that he did not acknowledge her contributions to battle strategy. Notice she appeared mollified at that announcement, where before she had been critical.
― sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
plot-wise, it also ties in with the conversation they had earlier where Sansa talked about how well she knew Cersei and how she learned a lot from her ... so we will assumedly get to see what Sansa has learned.
― sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
Power is power.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 24 July 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
theon jumping ship is the first show-only development i've been excited about in a while. it offers opportunities to juxtapose with the hound's story.
euron, i don't care about him. he'll kill some people then get killed.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 00:51 (six years ago) link
boy that grey worm
― 龜, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
"well now i know why they call you grey worm"
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link
― nomar, Monday, July 24, 2017 1:27 PM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cautiously agree with this so far
― gbx, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link
otice she appeared mollified at that announcement, where before she had been critical.
I shouted "that oughta shut you up" at the screen at her at that point, lol
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link
So I was confused by the ending. When Theon is in the water, that wasnt Yara, hanging from a ship's prow, above him? Someone upthread implied Yara and Ellaria are kidnapped, not dead. The melee made it really messy to work out.
i thought that was Yara hanging from the ship, but was also confused that there wasn't like a confirmatory close-up of her face
― gbx, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link
body hanging there was wearing her clothes, so
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
that wasn't yara hanging
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
yeah it was confusing.. I'm of the mind that Yara and Ellaria got captured and two sand snakes got killed...?
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
I thought it was Yara hanging, but it was ambiguous.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link
It was the two dead sand snakes, I'm fairly certain.
I still really enjoy the show and like a lot of the changes from the books, but boy howdy did they fuck up the Dorne storyline. They might have been better off leaving it out entirely
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link
Yara, Ellaria and (I thought) the Snake that was below protecting Ellaria are alive at the end of the ep. The two on the prow were Obara (impaled, alas Whale Rider!) and the Snake with the whip (who was dangling), both of whom died on the deck.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link
it says something about the nature of the scene (and the show atm) that i don't really care that much who died and who didn't die and who's gonna show up later
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link
Its more that these are all tertiary characters at best who need to be culled before the characters we really care about start wrapping their arcs
― Many men scream death (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 02:54 (six years ago) link
*it's
I mean, sure, but do they need to be dead to just leave them behind? Wait what am I asking, this is GoT.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
those were the two sand snakes on the prow. they were wearing sand snake clothes. one was hanging from her own whip. one was impaled on her own spear.
― nomar, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
Yeah when put like that it makes sense.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link
Having watched this episode I'm not convinced that being flayed alive is really a price worth paying for another crack at getting out of the friendzone.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 09:54 (six years ago) link
esp considering by the time he gets back Jon and Dany will be at it for sure
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 10:09 (six years ago) link
randall tarly was great in this ep i thought. he's samwell's daddy right?
― 龜, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link
Yep. And the kid is the reason he sent Sam to the wall, to get him out of the line of succession.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:02 (six years ago) link
You guys Samwell's brother is named Dickon. DICKON.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link
speaking of sea battles, isn't dickon ("...dickon...?") the guy with the crazy arms from black sails?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
and so he ishttp://www.imdb.com/name/nm2584392/?ref_=tt_cl_t8these are his crazy armshttp://cdn-maf0.heartyhosting.com/sites/muscleandfitness.com/files/media/black-sails-tom-hopper-content_1.jpg
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 25 July 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link