That’s a fair point, and the final shot seemed to only show White Walkers, not wights. Maybe the WWs are there to mix it up while the rampaging horde heads south—or maybe the WWs are confident that they’ll find enough dead people beneath winterfell already
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:19 (five years ago) link
the possibility of the night king raising the dead from the crypts below winterfell occurred to me earlier but not during this episode
kind of a huge security concern when they're shoving everyone who's not a fighter into the crypts. wonder what his range is for resurrecting the dead
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 14:27 (five years ago) link
20 hex radius if memory serves
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
i thought any white walker could raise the dead, not just the night king. in that episode where the magnificent seven went beyond the wall, they killed the white walker and the reanimated wights all collapsed to nothing, the implication being if you kill the white walker, the wights he raised return to death.
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:29 (five years ago) link
Agreed the lack of wights shown in the last ep + the trailer for the next one was... suspect? I don't want to go nuts with ~theories~ though.
― Evan, Monday, 22 April 2019 14:32 (five years ago) link
the white walkers only have a 5 hex radius area of influence iirc
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
+3 at night
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:34 (five years ago) link
Heroes have a saving roll if carrying dragonglass.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link
Would have been perfectly happy to end the series without an Arya sex scene.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:40 (five years ago) link
that was fucking terrible
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
lame
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 April 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link
at some point they're going to have to show Gendry taking initiative in *something* because you've still got to draw the guy a map to get him to do anything
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 22 April 2019 15:23 (five years ago) link
the episode was largely fan service, but the unashamed trashy fan I am, I loved the ep and felt aptly served. in fact, knowing how many deaths are likely coming at Winterfell, part of me would be perfectly happy if everyone just hung out in Winterfell drinking and joking and singing together for a little longer. The scenes meant to inspire emotion did it for me.
I'm intrigued by the smart NK theory, but even as trash of a fan as I am, I'd be wondering why the Night King would have any knowledge of King's Landing's importance at all, or where the seats of power are in the south. How many years has it been since any walkers went beyond the wall? Did they find a shitty map at least hearth?
― Unctious, Monday, 22 April 2019 15:58 (five years ago) link
i think the incident at last hearth (and his decision to attack the wall at eastwatch) indicates that the night king has at least some idea of where the seats of power are in westeros
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 15:59 (five years ago) link
it was nice of bran, whose location is always known to the NK, to chill out in Winterfell for several days before telling anyone that
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:22 (five years ago) link
although, tbf, i'm sure that earlier in the week someone walked by and said "still sitting alone with the tree, bran?" and bran whispered "he sees me. as i can see all." and assumed that everyone else understood what he meant
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link
Good point on why NK would even know of King's Landing... Maybe because they are that ancient they at least know the major locations that still exist?
BTW, generous of the (lazy) make up department to have downgraded the Hound's scar all the way down to "zit" at this point.
― Evan, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:30 (five years ago) link
king's landing is only about 300 years old, and the nk would've been human thousands of years ago--i think he has some sort of greensight or magic similar to bran
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:33 (five years ago) link
watching cable news
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:34 (five years ago) link
― Unctious, Monday, April 22, 2019 10:58 AM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm...I think it's weird ppl act like was there a time when this show wasn't corny in a lot of ways? trashy in many ways? ridiculous in hundreds of ways?
I think we see everything through the lens of "prestige" TV I actually love GoT as this incredible monumental effort in trash TV, so much money and time and effort spent into something that's at its heart pulpy fantasy but also compulsively watchable and compelling
This episode reminded me of a lot of classic western and war movie tropes that I'm a sucker for...the boys holed down in a saloon before the big gun fight or drinking in their tents before the big battle...after all this time I liked the smaller scale, personal episode, you'll get plenty of CG pyrotechnics don't worry about it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:35 (five years ago) link
but...there was! i know because every year i rewatch all the previous game of thrones episodes in the leadup to the new season, and every year i witness the transformation of the show into normcore
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:36 (five years ago) link
as my partner said during one of the scenes in last night's episode, "if the show was like this in the first season i wouldn't have kept watching"
but fuck, i'm all in now, so
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:37 (five years ago) link
Yeah I think once they ran out of books, things got progressively weaker. Still enjoying the show, though.
― DJI, Monday, 22 April 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
i witness the transformation of the show into normcore]
i don't know what normcore is in this sense, i only think of that as like 28 yr old ppl who wear big glasses and dress like dirtbag versions Mr and Mrs Walsh from 90210
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:40 (five years ago) link
hahaha
that's probably about right. i don't use it in its proper sense. i guess for me it's whoever wants to see that scene with jon snow and daenerys flying around on dragons for 25 minutes
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 April 2019 16:44 (five years ago) link
This episode reminded me of a lot of classic western and war movie tropes that I'm a sucker for...the boys holed down in a saloon before the big gun fight or drinking in their tents before the big battle
yeah! ... shut up and take it like a fan!
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link
also I cheered for the Arya sex scene ... like, hey, that would kinda be what I would do if I was likely to die in battle the next day?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
yeah, and podrick's singing echoed one of the greatest of those types of scenes, from Rio Bravo: https://youtu.be/1uuAjwvtxEM
a lot of people got major return of the king vibes from pod's song too, and i don't blame them: https://youtu.be/GWoUrBWsP58
xp
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
ew at the writers deciding that all the adult women still alive need to be paired up with a dude, even when it makes no sense for them to be. who tf asked for a Theon/Sansa budding romance?
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
i didn't get romantic vibes from that interaction tbh
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
Awww, loved Rio Bravo, though Pod is no Ricky Nelson, oh well
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
xpost they laid it on kind of thick with the lingering exchanges and the pause just before Theon explains why he returned to Winterfell.
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
lingering looks* exchanged*
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
i guess, i thought it was more a look of fellowship/friendship, but then again, theon is definitely going to die defending bran, so it doesn't matter much.
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
there def is that "pairing off" happening, but it seemed more like it was about being "family" as opposed to romance-y ... otoh, considering the prevalence of characters romancing family members ... it's kinda the white ppl equivalent of Grey Worm/Missandei
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
you could probably easily do a twenty minute supercut of just the first two eps of this season of people doing the thousand yard starezs, get on that
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
or you could make gifs of the racist northerners when encountering black ppl
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link
How does the Endless Night hold up on other continents? Are the cities of Essos more or less safe from all of this?
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
I got zero romantic vibes off of the Theon/Sansa reunion, just a lot of emotion
Theon's arc went from wanting to be a Stark to completely fucking them over, including his initial failure to help Sansa, so the pause and looks were more about his lingering guilt and the fact he's pretty much gone full circle and wants to stand with them
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link
xp - no one is safe. the night king doesn't see color.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
xpost ok fine, i could be misreading the scene I guess - the consequence of having watched way too many CW shows in my life. I still don't like this general "pairing off" vibe though, I was really enjoying Ice Queen Sansa.
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
anyway, am only rooting for Tormund at this point - far and away the best part of both these new episodes.
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
next episode titled "Theon Sansa Rises". an hour of Theon and Sansa in love but unable to act on it. lots more getting tight by the fire. hound plays slap the bag. sansa spends the last winterfell's wealth on a young, beautiful dothraki athlete.
― Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
xxp -- i agree re Ice Queen Sansa, also Tormund.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
didn't theon's dick get cut off?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
i just assume everyone on this show had their dick cut off
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
if helps assign character motivation
I assume all the characters have had their genitals violently removed offscreen unless it's explicitly stated otherwise
― Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link