This episode reminded me of a lot of classic western and war movie tropes that I'm a sucker for...the boys holed down in a saloon before the big gun fight or drinking in their tents before the big battle
yeah! ... shut up and take it like a fan!
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link
also I cheered for the Arya sex scene ... like, hey, that would kinda be what I would do if I was likely to die in battle the next day?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:05 (five years ago) link
yeah, and podrick's singing echoed one of the greatest of those types of scenes, from Rio Bravo: https://youtu.be/1uuAjwvtxEM
a lot of people got major return of the king vibes from pod's song too, and i don't blame them: https://youtu.be/GWoUrBWsP58
xp
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:07 (five years ago) link
ew at the writers deciding that all the adult women still alive need to be paired up with a dude, even when it makes no sense for them to be. who tf asked for a Theon/Sansa budding romance?
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
i didn't get romantic vibes from that interaction tbh
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
Awww, loved Rio Bravo, though Pod is no Ricky Nelson, oh well
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:09 (five years ago) link
xpost they laid it on kind of thick with the lingering exchanges and the pause just before Theon explains why he returned to Winterfell.
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link
lingering looks* exchanged*
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:15 (five years ago) link
i guess, i thought it was more a look of fellowship/friendship, but then again, theon is definitely going to die defending bran, so it doesn't matter much.
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
there def is that "pairing off" happening, but it seemed more like it was about being "family" as opposed to romance-y ... otoh, considering the prevalence of characters romancing family members ... it's kinda the white ppl equivalent of Grey Worm/Missandei
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:17 (five years ago) link
you could probably easily do a twenty minute supercut of just the first two eps of this season of people doing the thousand yard starezs, get on that
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
or you could make gifs of the racist northerners when encountering black ppl
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link
How does the Endless Night hold up on other continents? Are the cities of Essos more or less safe from all of this?
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:21 (five years ago) link
I got zero romantic vibes off of the Theon/Sansa reunion, just a lot of emotion
Theon's arc went from wanting to be a Stark to completely fucking them over, including his initial failure to help Sansa, so the pause and looks were more about his lingering guilt and the fact he's pretty much gone full circle and wants to stand with them
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:28 (five years ago) link
xp - no one is safe. the night king doesn't see color.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:30 (five years ago) link
xpost ok fine, i could be misreading the scene I guess - the consequence of having watched way too many CW shows in my life. I still don't like this general "pairing off" vibe though, I was really enjoying Ice Queen Sansa.
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link
anyway, am only rooting for Tormund at this point - far and away the best part of both these new episodes.
― Roz, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
next episode titled "Theon Sansa Rises". an hour of Theon and Sansa in love but unable to act on it. lots more getting tight by the fire. hound plays slap the bag. sansa spends the last winterfell's wealth on a young, beautiful dothraki athlete.
― Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 April 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link
xxp -- i agree re Ice Queen Sansa, also Tormund.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link
didn't theon's dick get cut off?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
i just assume everyone on this show had their dick cut off
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link
if helps assign character motivation
I assume all the characters have had their genitals violently removed offscreen unless it's explicitly stated otherwise
― Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQIqq81YOJJIo7T9CZKek_eyS12Y00guEwW6JAHnYf4yrdNFMie
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 April 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
sick of all this "paring off"
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:32 (five years ago) link
Castration pun?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 April 2019 18:38 (five years ago) link
If you're off'er-ing, sure.
― Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
male characters with removed genitals: Theon, Varys, Grey Wormmale characters whose dicks definitely work as of Season 8: Tormund, Gendry, Euron
― sarahell, Monday, 22 April 2019 18:51 (five years ago) link
good sans-serif fonts for headings: Theon, Varys, Grey Wormgood serif fonts for body text: Tormund, Gendry, Euron
― Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link
anyone else notice the moment in this episode where Davos ends up talking to the little girl who wants to join the battle, and she has facial scarring that's reminiscent of Stannis's daughter who was sacrificed?
not sure if it was just an emotional callback for his character or if he's going to end up confronting her again after something goes down in the crypt
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:09 (five years ago) link
felt mostly like the former
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:14 (five years ago) link
Both if he is tasked with burning her
― Evan, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
rumor has it the little girl is melissandre in disguise
― homosexual II, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:28 (five years ago) link
poor davos--they keep talking about all the battles he's survived so far, makes me think he's a goner
― person industrial complex (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 April 2019 19:35 (five years ago) link
Tuomas at 9:24 16 Apr 19Maisie Williams has had to carry a lot of the narrative load and i think she's done a great job.Agreed. She should have a great future ahead of her, though I really hope that her height and older-than-she-looks-like appearance won't doom her into being typecast kid characters, or eternally young ones (like she did in Doctor Who), for the next 15 years.
― Tuomas, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:42 (five years ago) link
Me at the end of this episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otptS-eOXvI
― nashwan, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:48 (five years ago) link
As for the pairing of characters, that didn't really bother me at all, because it makes sense that if you knew you were likely gonna die tomorrow, of course you would want to explore previously unaddressed affections, and/or look for solace and warmth in others. And all these bondings had been heavily hinted at in the previous seasons: Arya's infatuation with Gendry, the unspoken platonic romance between Brienne and Jaime, whatever it is that's going on with Sansa and Theon...What I don't like, though, is if all of that is used as cliched emotional irony, as a way of marking who's gonna die in the battle next episode. So if Missandei and Grey Worm talking about their future in her homeland, Arya and Gendry having sex, Jaime and Brienne expressing their feelings between the lines, and Sansa and Theon forming a deeper bond means that one in each of those pairs is gonna get killed next, that's just cheap.
― Tuomas, Monday, 22 April 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
Brienne and Grey Worm are toast for sure
― Number None, Monday, 22 April 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link
What I don't like, though, is if all of that is used as cliched emotional irony, as a way of marking who's gonna die in the battle next episode. So if Missandei and Grey Worm talking about their future in her homeland, Arya and Gendry having sex, Jaime and Brienne expressing their feelings between the lines, and Sansa and Theon forming a deeper bond means that one in each of those pairs is gonna get killed next, that's just cheap.
I don't think it's meant to foreshadow who will die--rather, it acts as a way of removing as much plot armor as possible so that it seems that anyone COULD die during the battle. Some won't, some will, but the point is that it obfuscates it. I think you might be able to argue that it's just a cheap way of raising the emotional stakes for the viewers, and I get that. But like I mentioned earlier, I enjoyed it and it made me feel emotional before going into the battle, so I'll take it.
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 22 April 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
That all being said, it's probably an unwelcome departure in a lot of peoples' eyes--specifically that the story didn't used to care who was at a narrative end to their arc or not. Apparent plot armor or not, everyone was fair game. Now they're ditching a lot of plot armor to up the suspense (i.e., they're trading shock for suspense).
― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, 22 April 2019 20:14 (five years ago) link
How are people seeing romance between Sansa and Theon!? Their looks/reunion is one of two people who went through hell at the hands of the same man (Ramsay) and surviving it.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:26 (five years ago) link
to some, the public eating of beans is a "pairing ceremony" that establishes shared romantic intentions
― Fictitious Business Name: (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
i'm shipping sansa/brienne now
― mh, Monday, 22 April 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link
next ep preview all but confirming some hijinx via an attack in a different direction/via the crypt/thirty minutes of zombie stand up comedy
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link
aaaand there's my new DN
― pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
bless
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link
that knight eatin beans
― Simon H., Monday, 22 April 2019 21:48 (five years ago) link
hahhaha yes
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link
I kinda liked the episode.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 22 April 2019 22:01 (five years ago) link
That is all.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 22 April 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link