By Hera! Come anticipate the WONDER WOMAN movie with me!

following her first appearance in the execrable batman vs superman, here's the first trailer for gal gadot's starring role as wonder woman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lGoQhFb4NM

hard to tell what to expect from this, but i'm not super-thrilled by the look of the snyder-esque slo-mo action scenes and gadot's not exactly thrilled me with her acting chops in either b vs s or the fast and the furious movies, which is all i've seen her in to date

i want to believe this will be good but the pedigree of the dc cinematic universe is so far... not good at all :(

one thing that really bothers me about the trailer is wonder woman fighting in the trenches and no-man's-land of wwi.

it feels like it tethers the movie a little too close to the real-life horror of the war in a way that the first captain america movie managed to sidestep by having cap fight the very obviously comic-booky red skull and hydra, well away from the actual battlefields of wwii. it'll take some careful handling to avoid it looking really tasteless, and one thing the onscreen dcu has not exactly been over-burdened by as-yet by restraint and taste...

The reveal of the invisible jet in that trailer was pretty cool.

lol, I actually watched the whole trailer again trying to figure out where it was

(but I guess I have an excuse in that the first time I saw Wonder Woman on TV as a kid the 'invisible' jet looked like this)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Invisible_plane.jpg

Casting Chris Pine as Steve Trevor kind of makes sense, but I can't tell if he's supposed to be the comic relief or if it's just his wooden acting.

it's both i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q8fG0TtVAY

My general attitude is fuck a comic book movie, but WW is different and just the whole feel of this movie seems remarkable. Can I buy a ticket yet?

the DC movies are all fucking awful (well, the ones I've seen) but I'll probably make an exception for this because 1) I think Gal Godot is beautiful 2) this had a female director, right? which is an anomoly in comic book movies and 3) it can't be as bad as suicide squad

Patty Jenkins, who directed Monster, directed this.

Gal Gadot is def stunning and seems a natural to play WW but wow she cannot deliver lines like a human

oh yeah she by no means is a good actress

has a slightly similar feel to the first Captain America movie, re the retroness, which I'm def into

Gal looks and seems RAD I can't wait to see this

Chris Pine too haaaaay

Gal Gadot is def stunning and seems a natural to play WW

Really? Because my main thought when watchin Bats vs. Supes was that she's way too skinny and short to feel credible as WW. Wonder Woman's supposed to be tall and muscular, since she's literally an Amazon. And I'm not saying this just because that's the way she's been depicted in post-Crisis comics, but because physical strength and stature is a pretty important part of her character in general.

If she was playing a ninja or some other type of character who's main characteristic is agility, I wouldn't mind (which is why I'm okay with Johansson as the Black Widow), but with WW it's a different thing. You wouldn't cast a skinny dude to play Superman either.

agreed. plus ya know it's a better contrast with the whole essential bondage theme which I'm guessing will not be addressed in this film....

HG Peter's Wonder Woman has a fairly regular build, sometimes even a slightly petite. Not the most popular version but surely definitive.
But I really don't think it matters what size she is.

I thought Gadot was tall but maybe she's just taller than Isla Fisher.

she's 5 10". (i looked that up, I didn't know it off the top of my head) which is fairly tall, I'd think

The overwhelmingly definitive comparison:

http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/79/590x/secondary/Lynda-as-Wonder-Woman-264419.jpg

(5 9")

You wouldn't cast a skinny dude to play Superman either.

― Tuomas, Friday, November 4, 2016 2:27 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Au contraire...

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/superman/images/6/6e/Cage_Lives.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150815204540

Gal Gadot appears to be 1.78m or 5ft 8. Might have expected them to go with somebody at least 6ft. but I guess that's reasonably tall for lot of people.

Not having seen the previous trailers i was a little surprised to see this was going to be set in teh first world war, thought she was more associated with WWII. Though it did look like a WWI scene she was shown in the photo in Batman v Superman.

(And, completely tangentially, I've totally bought into the argument that there's no real reason why Superman should be depicted as supermuscular. I guess the same could apply to Wonder Woman.)

I'm not arguing against a Darwyn Cooke version of course, but I don't know that it's a massive betrayal not to have one.

What was that thing Gal Gadot and Lynda Carter were doing? I heard that Wonder Woman was supposed to be some sort of ambassador but how can you have a fictional ambassador? A lot of people were unhappy but it seems like people were more unhappy about it being a typically idealised white woman than it looking like a movie promotion.

a super muscular WW would probably scare the investors.

this does look cool. WWI as a setting has potential to be more interesting or nuanced than WWII. first season of the 70s TV show was all about fighting the Nazis over and over again, maybe they are trying to break from that.

I have never heard of Gal Gadot and she seems perfectly fine (and tall !) but I don't know, she seems a bit too... "normal" or bland for the role.
I would have imagined someone more badass, with more character.
Maybe I'm biased because Lynda Carter was one of my first crushes as a kid... that said I don't remember at all if she was that badass !

70s TV show was all about fighting the Nazis over and over again, maybe they are trying to break from that.

by fighting... 2nd Reich Germany !

i'm kind of surprise Lynda is that short! on her show she kind of towers over everyone. maybe they only hired short people?

or people were smaller then ?
I'm not sure there were that many 5 9" women around in the 70s.

(And, completely tangentially, I've totally bought into the argument that there's no real reason why Superman should be depicted as supermuscular. I guess the same could apply to Wonder Woman.)

I actually agree with that on Superman, since his power comes from the sun, and he's always been depicted as peaceful dude, so there's no need for him to lift weights or anything. But WW was born into a warrior culture and has gone through the toughest possible warrior training, so she should be muscly.

The superman disguise that him slouching makes him look non descript and therefore he can pass off as milquetoast Clark Kent would be heavily undermined by him being seriously buff wouldn't it?

Lynda Carter has a recurring role on the Supergirl tv series now and she's a fucking worse actress than Gal Godot if you can believe it.

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

One of my fave clips of all time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu89K7nI8KY

Debra's Letterman interviews are gold.

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The superman disguise that him slouching makes him look non descript and therefore he can pass off as milquetoast Clark Kent would be heavily undermined by him being seriously buff wouldn't it?

You could actually post the panels by Quitely here and prove your point?

supposed to be some sort of ambassador but how can you have a fictional ambassador?

what

i knew i could count on you all to make this thread as unexciting as possible

tbf Veg you're the one trying to be thrilled about a film produced by Zack Snyder and Geoff Johns

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/oct/21/wonder-woman-un-ambassador-staff-protest

This is the thing I was talking about

as long as snyder's not *directing* i'm all for it

remember when this guy was the Iranian ambassador to the UN though

http://66.media.tumblr.com/c2da3a5940bf16eb2082b80bc4206540/tumblr_nrgl4okBxP1trvouao1_500.jpg

That chin is nuts

you could fit a lot of nuts on that chin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INLzqh7rZ-U

looks good

http://www.flickfilosopher.com/wptest/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/chainedwonderwoman.jpg

its a teal and orange world

that's a full trailer and not a teaser? i don't know what type of film it is. action, back story, tragic scene, cg, explosion, one-liner, comedy.

i can imagine an exec going "what DCEU really needs is marvel's color scheme from 2011"

is Wonder Woman going to find out why the sun turned blue?

I wish movies would just be allowed to invent invent historical wars the way they invent countries

Anyway, best not to think about it, this movie has sat well enough with me, and my younger one now reads WW comics.

yeah, i made my squeamishness about the wwi setting clear at the start of this thread but in the end the strength of the lead performances was enough to get me through it

i dunno how much i'll be able to overlook it on future viewings but for now i'm happy that there's finally a decent dcu movie and i hope there's still time for justice league to learn from it

pretty cute how into superheroes my nephews, age 3 and 5 are

3 and 5 year olds are usually excited by power

Why would a woman that book-learned and fluent in countless languages apparently never learn the word for "snow"?

sapir-whorf hypothesis

The bizarre thing for me was when I saw the movie I'd just come back from a week-long tour of Belgian battlefields, and having heard countless stories of dreadful slaughter and carnage and visited so many war graves, it was a bit of a headspinner to have that as the setting for exciting super-punching action fun times.

It's also a bit odd when you consider how significant the Second World War was to Wonder Woman's origins, and which played a big part in the TV series as well. So why the change? They can't have been worried about ripping off Captain America surely, that movie was years ago!

Because then the movie would have been about Wonder Woman punching out the Manhattan Project.

with oppenheimer as the big bad, literally 'become death, destroyer of worlds'?

i'd watch the shit out of that tbh

Oh I think ILX would totally watch that movie. Hence the budget should have been in the $2500 range.

"A Mark Duplass Film"

ilx post-covers the wonder woman movie

i spent a few days camping with a group of friends & two unrelated 5 yr old girls had WW bathrobe & pyjamas, two moms had WW tshirts, and at one point the 8 yr old boy was playing "magic lasso" with some old rope he found by the river.. it was super cool seeing all the unplanned ww love :)

despite my historical issues, a lot of it was excellent, and she was hella charismatic and a lot of things were done super well. therein lies the frustration - and it's pretty lame that her next appearance is alongside total downer-bros Cavill and Affleck in the next one.

http://www.tcj.com/professor-marston-and-the-wonder-women/

Just a piece about some of the puzzling choices in the biopic.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonwells/medium-post-gal-gadot?utm_term=.xhYANAr7KD#.vmGA1APmKq

13 years ago, Gal Gadot would have been 19 years old or so. I don't think anybody is a perfect moral specimen at that age. I don't appreciate Medium's handling of it, but then again, fucking Medium, you get what you pay for in a platform.

I read the original post before Medium took it down. If the account is true, not being a "perfect moral specimen" doesn't cover it.

Just read the webcached version. Fuck me, what a vile human being*.

*Assuming it's true as written

well okay then I guess she sucks

everyone sucks

dang

Can the fuller story be seen elsewhere?

Posts shit bigging up the IDF as well.

not sure why that's a surprise to anyone

Saw this two weeks ago -- a bit if all right as far as superhero things go. At least the action was intelligible.

Can the fuller story be seen elsewhere?

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fVArhMNLAXcJ:https://medium.com/%40imasurvivor/heres-how-gal-gadot-actually-responded-when-her-friend-raped-me-7aa7a2bea919+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

Warning: really pretty unpleasant reading. Starts off with her blaming a 15 year old victim for being raped, goes downhill from there.

This is good this is.

*spit take*

He's not wrong.

i liked it too, it just seemed uh dmac-proof to me

ITT Deems and Tombot agree on a movie

The last act drags but the first is a doozy and the second balances comic booky and plot furtherance well.

And uh gadot

The cognitive dissonance between her relentless naivete and her book learnin' was very weird and funny to me, generally not in a good way

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 13:41 (five months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are u ppl kidding me or yourselves more in this place that's what I ask myself

Well, this is interesting news.

So excited to confirm the most thrilling news. Yes! It’s true! So incredibly lucky to welcome the sensationally talented Kristen Wiig to our Wonder Woman family. Can't wait to finally work with one of my favorites. And SO excited by what we have planned. #Cheetah!!! @GalGadot pic.twitter.com/Gn0jICiIAH

— Patty Jenkins (@PattyJenks) March 9, 2018

Wiig plays a hard-boiled undercover detective determined to find out who killed her father, Sir Patrick Morgan

huh, so i guess she's playing cheetah? guess we'll have to wait another few years before that wonder woman / egg fu bigscreen face-off that fans have been clamouring for

and this should be Cheetah in the 1980s, right? should be interesting

Great trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQ5mWYwTtQ

not a fan of orchestral blue monday tbh

kinda dreading the explanation of how chris pine is alive but also happy to see him cuz chris pine is good fuiud

It's actually nice seeing DC get its shit together

I never knew I wanted to see Wonder Woman wreck Pentagon City mall until now, but I do!!

the first one was a bit over-long (why do these films always have one too many climactic battles?) but Gadot and the overall tone was great, will totally see this w my daughter

looks cool, not toooo much LOL 80's stuff going on, wish they'd just used the original Blue Monday though.

why do these films always have one too many climactic battles?

in their own way and in a different medium, they are replicating all those romantic symphonies that strive for a 'big finish' so long and overwrought as to leave their audience wrung out with induced emotion. when I hear those symphonies now I experience those climax-piled-on-climax endings as a musical joke instead of a passionate catharsis.

(I'm looking at you, Gustav Mahler!)

this might be the first one of these big budget superhero movies that is "not a hoax! not a dream! not an imaginary story!"
could unlock a subgenre of elseworlds? marvel is already doing a "what if" tv series right?

looks cool, not toooo much LOL 80's stuff going on...

I was actually hoping for big, unapologetically cheesy ‘80s indulgence... not “New Order ‘80s” (let alone “New Order Remix ‘80s”). Trailer disappointing!

I want some Fat Boys

Even her hair and makeup look more 1994 than 1984.