I've tabulated the ballots, and the results are forthcoming. Will it be worth the wait?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijxDztnFva8
― Godspeed You! Black Widow (Leee), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 00:36 (seven years ago) link
D'oh, I meant to change my D/N with this thread.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 00:37 (seven years ago) link
Let's start with the least surprising!
RIKER: BEARD OR NO BEARD?
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link
4. No beard (ugh) - 0 points2T. Season 2 Riker, fresh with beard - 1 point2T. http://i.imgur.com/rsuxb69.gif - 1 point1. Beard - 7 points
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
Rikerdwi.gif
― Jeff, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link
Exciting!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link
Thanks Jeff.
http://i.imgur.com/rsuXB69.gif
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 01:59 (seven years ago) link
'Commander, have you seen Lieutenant Leee?' 'No sir.' 'Computer, locate Lieutenant Leee.' 'Lieutenant Leee is not on board the Enterprise.'
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 08:07 (seven years ago) link
Cool! I didn't vote in this poll, because I've only seen all the episodes with TNG and DS9, and none of Enterprise, so I didn't feel qualified to vote; my ballot would've been all TNG/DS9, since none of the handful of TOS and Voyager episodes I've seen compare to the best of those two series.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link
But I'm happy to see results and be educated, maybe I'll watch TOS properly one day (probably not Voyager though, from what I remember the quality that one wasn't particularly high).
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 10:26 (seven years ago) link
Tuomas, most of my ballot was DS9, full-stop! I mean, if you decided to sneak a ballot in, I probably won't ignore it.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
We need you Tuomas.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Oh geez just saw this now! glad i didn't miss much (aside from the beard rollout, a key one imo)
― a simba man (Will M.), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:51 (seven years ago) link
Ok. I'll try to come up with a ballot, you should get it in next 30 minutes...
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
I object to this blatant violation of ILX poll procedures, unfairly tilting results to TNG/DS9!
ok not really
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link
altho I do wish Tuomas ballot could be counterbalanced by an all TOS ballot from Morbz
Sent it!
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 19:35 (seven years ago) link
I could put together a fake Morbius ballot where the first letter of every entry spells out SHRILLARY or something.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Lol
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
TEH CAPTINZ
9. Sulu (to hell with archer) :: 1 points :: 1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgTvIg4eZWk
8. Whatshisname :: 1 points :: 1 voteshttp://hotphotosfree.com/sites/default/files/styles/medium/public/field/image/4d22992b615ad024b331b07bb689b520.jpg?itok=Wj93mifL
7. Pike :: 1 points :: 1 voteshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f9/ST_TheMenagerie.jpg/280px-ST_TheMenagerie.jpg
6. Zlog :: 1 points :: 1 voteshttps://icantwatchisitoveryet.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/captains-log.jpg
5. Archer :: 7 points :: 5 voteshttp://dogactors.com/img/porthos_dog.jpg
4. Janeway :: 34 points :: 6 voteshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/01/1c/16/011c163ba711f2ad24a594cfb52a299e.jpg
3. Sisko :: 48 points :: 7 voteshttps://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/15577124.jpg
2. Kirk :: 60 points :: 8 votes :: 2 No. 1 voteshttps://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/25216824.jpg
1. Picard :: 84 points :: 8 votes :: 6 No. 1 voteshttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/R3OF6BKRh3A/hqdefault.jpg
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
FUIUD Shakes.
Bah, the Archer pic was of his dog Porthos, and Janeway was a cleverly captioned screencap of Red from OITNB.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link
i stand for kirk but now i wish i 1'd sisko, he's awesome and deserved one
― a simba man (Will M.), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link
Captain poll bodes well for main poll.
― Jeff, Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
I was voting as a starfleet academy review board. Kirk is good tv but bad captain.
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
academy
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link
can't really argue w that
otoh that's also why Picard is more of a nullity than a compelling character
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 19:58 (seven years ago) link
Pfft that's what sour grapes sound like apparently.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:27 (seven years ago) link
Wait a minute... huh. I watched a lot of voyager (didn't vote for any though), my gf watched a lot of oitnb that i couldn't avoid, and I never made the connection.
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
Picard is the best captain in the franchise, though not the best main character... And he get's a lot of defining character moments and fleshing out in the series, starting from "Family". You could only call him a "nullity" if you think a character is "compelling" only if he's driven by DEEP and DRAMATIC INNER CONFLICT. (Though you get bits of that too with Picard in "Tapestry", if that's your thing.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
yes, like Tim Burton, I only consider characters compelling if they had abusive father figures
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
but seriously, in what way is Kirk - a far superior character imo - driven by DEEP and DRAMATIC INNER CONFLICT
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
I dunno, I'm not super familiar with Kirk... I just don't understand why you would call Picard a "nullity"? He gets more fleshing out, more good episodes focused on his personality and loves and fears than any other TNG character. So do you feel he's a "nullity" because he's less flawed and more morally upstanding than Kirk, or why do you say that?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
Picard is the best captain in the franchise
I dunno, I'm not super familiar with Kirk...
mm hmm
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
tell me more
And I'm not saying inner conflicts and deep shades of gray are necessarily bad, my favourite ST character has plenty of that.. But IMO a character can be compelling without those too. Picard is kinda like Superman, he's not interesting because "just like us", but because he strives to be better than us.
(xpost)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
Well, I've seen all the movies and a handful of TOS episodes, I think that's enough to form an opinion on Kirk?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
picard is good but i'd still rate him 4th in the captains poll (which i forgot to vote for)
― ciderpress, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
19. Jimmy brooks :: 1 points :: 1 voteshttp://www.teennick.com/teennick-assets/blogs/images/degrassi/top-ten-lists/top-ten-jimmy-brooks-moments/degrassi-image-annoyed.jpg
18. Dax (if i gotta pick one, ezri) :: 1 points :: 1 voteshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Ezri_Dax_Season_7_Promotional_Photo.jpg
omg ezri so cuet!
17. Kira Nerys :: 2 points :: 2 voteshttp://www.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/kiranerys/emissary074a.jpg
16. Dukat :: 4 points :: 1 voteshttps://66.media.tumblr.com/f347ddd740327f59b587b487bfe795cf/tumblr_o6i2mbPhNu1ru85zso1_500.png
15. Beverly Crusher :: 4 points :: 1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/UHHnAJR.jpg
14. Quark :: 4 points :: 1 voteshttps://www.jlab.org/sites/default/files/quarks.jpg
13. Lwaxana Troi :: 6 points :: 1 voteshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d7/3c/35/d73c353437239ddb855c3a459e05b99f.jpg
12. Odo :: 6 points :: 1 voteshttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/53/a0/a4/53a0a4096bc4d2d358df8497b09c1f38.jpg
11. Seven of Nine :: 6 points :: 1 voteshttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/09CeQIg0fPU/hqdefault.jpg
10. Uhura :: 7 points :: 2 voteshttps://media.giphy.com/media/R0dr9dN8TKPqE/giphy-facebook_s.jpg
9. The Doctor :: 8 points :: 1 votes
8. Miles O'Brien :: 8 points :: 1 votes
7. Khan :: 9 points :: 2 votes
6. Worf :: 17 points :: 4 votes
5. Q :: 19 points :: 4 votes
4. McCoy :: 28 points :: 4 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes
3. Garak :: 33 points :: 4 votes :: 2 No. 1 voteshttps://imgur.com/gallery/O5pKOtZ
2. Data :: 42 points :: 5 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes
1. Spock :: 74 points :: 8 votes :: 4 No. 1 votes
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
lol all my precious images dammit.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
I guess I should've included a character listing in my ballot, shocked that my all-time favourite Kira is so low! She should definitely rank higher than Woodface O'Brien or fucking KHAAANNN!!!
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
Props for the people who voted Garak so high tho! Definitely the most complelling (and funniest) supporting character.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
Shatner plays Kirk much more broadly and melodramatically than Stewart's portrayal of Picard, and a large part of Kirk's appeal is rooted in this - while both characters are "Superman"-like in their essential idealization, Kirk is humanized and made both more relatable and more fun to watch by virtue of Shatner's expressiveness, commitment and charisma. Kirk gets way less backstory (or way less of a coherent backstory anyway - it does appear that he met a million people in his days at Starfleet Academy) than Picard and the viewer is given next to nothing in terms of his motivations and interior psychology, but Shatner's hamminess conveys so much about the character: his anger is palpable, his humor is infectious, etc. But Steward plays Picard with an implacable wall of reserve, always beholden to formality, protocol, maybe a dry smile here or a thin-lipped grimace of determination there but he is not particularly expressive. Which is why, even when the show brings in his ex-girlfriends or his love of horseback-riding or whatever, these feel more like extraneous details and less like lived-in, emotionally rooted characteristics. And yes, Picard *is* more of a goody-two-shoes than Kirk - he breaks the rules less, has less of a sense of humor, is not as flawed - and this only further contributes to his portrayal as that of an empty suit (or maybe a Starfleet uniform stuffed with rules and regulations + some token French culture references)
xp
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link
And yeah, Ezri Dax was incredibly cute and Nicole de Boer was a better actor than Terry Farrell (she was great at doing chill and bemused, but not as good with drama). If only they'd done the switch a couple of seasons earlier, I think she would be much better regarded than just "the one who replaced Dax for one season". De Boer is particularly awesome in the one Mirror Universe ep she got to do, she chews the scenery HARD.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
Steward = Stewart duh
I do like Stewart in other stuff (I Claudius, LOTR, X-Men) so it's weird to me that the character he spent the most time portraying/is most identified with (maybe?) is such a bland nothing.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
9. The Doctor :: 8 points :: 1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/TzMrbDo.png
8. Miles O'Brien :: 8 points :: 1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/IRSpXBz.jpg
7. Khan :: 9 points :: 2 voteshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Khan1.jpg
6. Worf :: 17 points :: 4 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/kTfdd0X.jpg
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
5. Q :: 19 points :: 4 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/pIJtebJ.jpg
4. McCoy :: 28 points :: 4 votes :: 1 No. 1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/qs7wJFG.gif
2. Data :: 42 points :: 5 votes :: 2 No. 1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/DFypeon.jpg
1. Spock :: 74 points :: 8 votes :: 4 No. 1 voteshttp://i.imgur.com/UjCF1bl.jpg
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link
But Steward plays Picard with an implacable wall of reserve, always beholden to formality, protocol, maybe a dry smile here or a thin-lipped grimace of determination there but he is not particularly expressive.
I'd say these are qualities of the character, not the actor, and Stewart plays him impeccably. And it's exactly because he's normally reserved and stiff that the moments (and there are many of those throughout the series) where he allows someone to get through to him romantically (like in "Lessons" or "Inner Light"), or breaks down due to trauma (like in "Family" or "Chain of Command"), or shows some self-deprecating humour (like in the "Captain Picard Day" scenes in "The Pegasus"), are so effective. I mean, it's not only melodramatic characters that can be compelling, don't you think? A space diplomat can be just as interesting as a space hero, if done well.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
Also, I'm pretty sure Stewart wasn't in LOTR?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
haha right sorry mixing up my X-Men/LOTR franchises
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
this one is pretty good but yeah idk why it placed so high
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 November 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link
It's TOS does "Hunt for the Red October"! Much suspense etc.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
5. The Best Of Both Worlds (TNG) :: 183 points :: 6 votes :: 1 No. 1 votesPart 1 Part 2
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
best of both worlds is fine, i get why its a big deal but i watch trek more for the "darmok"s and "measure of a man"s than for thrills. i feel like the borg episodes just haven't aged as well as the dramas
― ciderpress, Friday, 4 November 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
Part 1 is great though! It's just that the Borg are conceptually so powerful that the writers have to resort to lazy, anticlimactic backdoor hacks in order for our heroes to survive.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Balance of Terror: it's TOS does "The Enemy Below", a 1957 Robert Mitchum submarine movie. i like the episode more than the movie.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link
you know you have this backwards right
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link
AGT is weird. Picard x3 goes to all this effort to do a thing to save humanity which is in fact the thing that would put an end to humanity so he stops doing the thing and then humanity is ok. Would have all been fine if he'd stayed back at the ranch. Or is that the point?
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
I don't think anti-time in AGT makes any sense. "q did it" is my best explanation.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
It's TOS does "Hunt for the Red October"! Much suspense etc.you know you have this backwards right
Humanity's inability to perceive time as anything but linear is why Q puts us on trial.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
I think the Continuum had judged that humans were doomed, so in an effort to save his pet species, Q guided Picard into creating a paradox that would lead to the Captain's insight and the salvation of humanity.
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
4. Far Beyond The Stars (DS9) :: 193 points :: 6 votes :: 2 No. 1 votesMemory Alpha
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
Almost perfect IMO. (Would've been perfect if they'd actually decided that the entire Trek universe was in Benny's mind.)
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
Will always love Far Beyond the Stars but Brooks tips over into too much scenery chewing.
― Jeff, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link
far beyond the stars is the best
― ciderpress, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
i like balance of terror a lot (my #2) and posted in the nominations thread that while structurally it's, yes, a submarine movie, its diligent empathy for the romulan captain and the romulan viewpoint is very trek. lenard's performance is great and the ep has as much to do w the wrath of khan as space seed does.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
Like the climax of the episode being a brawl. Like 90% of TOS episodes.― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Friday, November 4, 2016 11:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Friday, November 4, 2016 11:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
brawl > setting the phase dampeners to a quantum frequency that resonates with the object's flux signature (but then i voted for "arena")
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link
3. The City On The Edge Of Forever (TOS) :: 194 points :: 7 votesMemory Alpha
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link
Hope that tides over the TOS boys.
lol not me :(
love spock's beanie tho
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
brawl > setting the phase dampeners to a quantum frequency that resonates with the object's flux signature
Touché. Although the latter is arguably more fitting for a sci fi show.
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link
Hope that tides over the TOS boys
nah, this is a mid-tier episode imo
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 November 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link
feel like it gets overrated due to ooh famous guest star + famous sci-fi writer
2. Darmok (TNG) :: 208 points :: 7 votes :: 2 No. 1 votesDarmok and Jalad at Tanagra
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
the non-TOS-boy's TOS episode, apparently xp
now darmok is very good.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link
1. Mirror, Mirror (TOS) :: 226 points :: 9 votesMemory Alpha
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
haha ok all is forgiven
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:06 (seven years ago) link
love everything about this episode. mirror spock: scarier than khan. "your agonizer, please", yes, but what about when he tells sulu that if he's killed his family will feel obligated to avenge his death "and some of them... are vulcans". sulu blanches and we are invited to imagine mirror vulcans. (except that these would p much be romulans i guess? still.) and on the other side (in the mirror if u will), evil kirk, demonstrating that kirk without judgement + self-mastery is just a goofy idiot. the part where he's howling from the brig "WHAT IS IT YOU WANT, SPOCK? POWER??" and good-spock deploys a "fascinating" is my favorite single trek moment.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link
i even think the sexual politics are dece tbh. mirror-kirk's girlfriend is neither dumb nor irrational, and being trapped in the terran empire is a good metaphor for being trapped in a tos episode.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link
i guess the flaw is that everything hinges on a magic tv screen that kills anyone you can think of, that's pretty dumb altho it's almost like a fairy tale right
anyway great #1-2 imo thanks leee!
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
yeah the tantalus field thing is v deus ex machina (or TNG lol)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link
115T. Things Past :: 13 points :: 1 votes115T. Children Of Time :: 13 points :: 1 votes115T. Strange Bedfellows :: 13 points :: 1 votes115T. And The Children Shall Lead :: 13 points :: 1 votes115T. Relics :: 13 points :: 1 votes111T. The Emissary :: 14 points :: 1 votes111T. The Sound Of Her Voice :: 14 points :: 1 votes111T. I, Mudd :: 14 points :: 1 votes111T. Dagger Of The Mind :: 14 points :: 1 votes111T. Tacking Into The Wind :: 14 points :: 1 votes111T. Clues :: 14 points :: 1 votes105T. Thine Own Self :: 15 points :: 1 votes105T. Valiant :: 15 points :: 1 votes103T. Shore Leave :: 16 points :: 1 votes103T. The Galileo Seven :: 16 points :: 1 votes103T. The Magnificent Ferengi :: 16 points :: 1 votes103T. Crossover :: 16 points :: 1 votes103T. The Gamesters Of Triskelion :: 16 points :: 1 votes98T. I, Borg :: 17 points :: 1 votes98T. Datalore :: 17 points :: 1 votes98T. The Immunity Syndrome :: 17 points :: 1 votes95T. The Trouble With Tribbles :: 18 points :: 1 votes95T. Rapture :: 18 points :: 1 votes95T. Miri :: 18 points :: 1 votes95T. The Die Is Cast :: 18 points :: 1 votes95T. A Matter Of Honour :: 18 points :: 1 votes95T. Is There In Truth No Beauty :: 18 points :: 1 votes95T. Phantasms :: 18 points :: 1 votes88T. The Enterprise Incident :: 19 points :: 1 votes88T. For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky :: 19 points :: 1 votes88T. Half A Life :: 19 points :: 1 votes88T. Latent Image :: 19 points :: 1 votes88T. Broken Link :: 19 points :: 1 votes88T. The Wire :: 19 points :: 1 votes88T. Elementary Dear Data :: 19 points :: 1 votes81T. A Taste Of Armageddon :: 20 points :: 1 votes81T. A Private Little War :: 20 points :: 1 votes81T. Rocks And Shoals :: 20 points :: 1 votes81T. Next Phase :: 20 points :: 1 votes77T. Sacrifice Of Angels :: 21 points :: 1 votes77T. Future Imperfect :: 21 points :: 1 votes77T. Who Watches The Watchers :: 21 points :: 1 votes77T. In Purgatory's Shadow :: 21 points :: 1 votes73T. Take Me Out To The Holosuite :: 22 points :: 1 votes73T. Conspiracy :: 22 points :: 1 votes73T. The Survivors :: 22 points :: 1 votes73T. All Our Yesterdays :: 22 points :: 1 votes73T. Family :: 22 points :: 1 votes68T. The Drumhead :: 23 points :: 1 votes68T. This Side Of Paradise :: 23 points :: 1 votes67. Arena :: 24 points :: 1 votes65T. You Are Cordially Invited :: 25 points :: 1 votes65T. Who Mourns For Adonais :: 25 points :: 1 votes65T. The Tholian Web :: 25 points :: 1 votes62T. Encounter At Farpoint :: 26 points :: 1 votes62T. Rejoined :: 26 points :: 1 votes62T. Looking For Par'mach In All The Wrong Places :: 26 points :: 1 votes59T. Little Green Men :: 28 points :: 1 votes59T. Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges :: 28 points :: 1 votes57T. The Siege Of Ar-558 :: 30 points :: 1 votes57T. The Way To Eden :: 30 points :: 1 votes57T. Civil Defense :: 30 points :: 1 votes55. Ensigns Of Command :: 30 points :: 2 votes53T. The Search, Part Ii :: 33 points :: 1 votes53T. Call To Arms :: 33 points :: 1 votes52. Sarek :: 33 points :: 2 votes50T. Journey To Babel :: 34 points :: 2 votes50T. 11001001 :: 34 points :: 2 votes49. Timescape :: 36 points :: 2 votes47T. Blink Of An Eye :: 37 points :: 2 votes47T. Second Skin :: 37 points :: 2 votes47T. Past Tense :: 37 points :: 2 votes47T. The Devil In The Dark :: 37 points :: 2 votes43T. Errand Of Mercy :: 38 points :: 2 votes43T. It's Only A Paper Moon :: 38 points :: 2 votes41T. Living Witness :: 39 points :: 2 votes41T. Time's Arrow :: 39 points :: 2 votes39T. Time Squared (TNG) :: 40 points :: 1 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes39T. Plato's Stepchildren (TOS) :: 40 points :: 1 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes37T. Trials And Tribble-ations (DS9) :: 41 points :: 2 votes37T. Let That Be Your Last Battlefield (TOS) :: 41 points :: 2 votes36. By Inferno's Light (DS9) :: 45 points :: 2 votes35. Tapestry (TNG) :: 46 points :: 2 votes33T. Parallels (TNG) :: 50 points :: 2 votes33T. The Squire Of Gothos (TOS) :: 50 points :: 2 votes32. Remember Me (TNG) :: 51 points :: 2 votes31. The Corbomite Maneuver (TNG) :: 51 points :: 3 votes30. Deja Q (TNG) :: 52 points :: 2 votes29. Distant Origin (VOY) :: 52 points :: 3 votes28. Necessary Evil (DS9) :: 54 points :: 2 votes27. The Thaw (VOY) :: 54 points :: 3 votes26. The Naked Time (TOS) :: 62 points :: 3 votes25. Lower Decks (TNG) :: 65 points :: 2 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes24. Ship In A Bottle (TNG) :: 66 points :: 2 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes23. Year Of Hell (VOY) :: 67 points :: 3 votes22. The Enemy Within (TOS) :: 70 points :: 2 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes21. Chain Of Command (TNG) :: 78 points :: 4 votes20. Frame Of Mind (TNG) :: 79 points :: 3 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes19. Hard Time (DS9) :: 80 points :: 4 votes18. In The Pale Moonlight (DS9) :: 106 points :: 3 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes17. Cause And Effect (TNG) :: 109 points :: 5 votes16. The Doomsday Machine (TOS) :: 114 points :: 4 votes15. Duet (DS9) :: 115 points :: 5 votes14. The Measure Of A Man (TNG) :: 117 points :: 6 votes13. Space Seed (TOS) :: 133 points :: 6 votes12. Amok Time (TOS) :: 142 points :: 5 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes11. The Inner Light (TNG) :: 150 points :: 5 votes10. The Visitor (DS9):: 150 points :: 7 votes9. Yesterday's Enterprise (TNG) :: 155 points :: 6 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes8. All Good Things (TNG) :: 169 points :: 7 votes7. Q Who (TNG) :: 175 points :: 6 votes6. Balance Of Terror (TOS) :: 176 points :: 7 votes5. The Best Of Both Worlds (TNG) :: 183 points :: 6 votes :: 1 No. 1 votes4. Far Beyond The Stars (DS9) :: 193 points :: 6 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes3. City On The Edge Of Forever (TOS) :: 194 points :: 7 votes2. Darmok (TNG) :: 208 points :: 7 votes :: 2 No. 1 votes1. Mirror, Mirror (TOS) :: 226 points :: 9 votes
― Pean-Juc Leeecard (Leee), Friday, 4 November 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link
stuff from earlier i missed posting about:
devil in the dark - glad this made it as i cut it from my ballot because iirc it takes place entirely in drab underground corridors, features no crew outside the core dialectic, and takes kind of a long time. but spock's mind-meld scene ("PAIN!!!") is essential.
errand of mercy - i like this one. like a day the earth stood still for 60s policy.
let that be your last battlefield - sort of annoyed this made it instead of any preachy third-tier TOS episodes i actually voted for.
the corbomite maneuver - good, indeed fundamental, kirk ep, but as almost nothing happens in it it's good the alien face is so striking and that they throw in the clint howard acid trip at the end.
lower decks - had a rly good time w the one time i saw this. patrick stewart's baldness in it is like a pun.
frame of mind - i like the being-in-a-play angle in this one.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:34 (seven years ago) link
seeing the full list there makes me wish i'd given just a few points to "sarek", my favorite Stewart Emotes! episode
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 4 November 2016 23:37 (seven years ago) link
a few more points, i mean; i had it at #15
so glad that voyager's scorpion got no votes. i remember that being a well-received one, but it both ruins the borg and includes a racist fable.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 5 November 2016 00:34 (seven years ago) link
wait why did i think balance of terror already happened?!?!?!
― a simba man (Will M.), Saturday, 5 November 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
WAIT ITS OVER? WHY AM I SO BAD AT ILX TONIGHT?
FUCK
did startrekman vote in this
― mh 😏, Saturday, 5 November 2016 02:13 (seven years ago) link
You know, that's a pretty decent top 10. Mostly I'm happy that The Visitor beat out The Inner Light (which never resonated for me, either).
― Millsner, Saturday, 5 November 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link
Q Who at #7 is just whaaaaaaaaaaat tho.
― Millsner, Saturday, 5 November 2016 02:19 (seven years ago) link
Q Who is great because it has that scene where the Borg is fucking with the Enterprise computer and Picard's all like "He has to be stopped! Mr. Worf!" And then Worf just goes "Ensign!" and totally passes it off to some ensign, who gets pummeled by the Borg dude. And that, kids, is how management works.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 5 November 2016 04:55 (seven years ago) link
Can't help but wonder in Mirror Mirror how a universe where humans are so radically different could have developed so that at the exact moment they visit, Kirk & Spock et al find their exact counterparts in the same roles in the same organisation. Which only adds to its bonkers charm.
― quis gropes ipsos gropiuses? (ledge), Saturday, 5 November 2016 09:31 (seven years ago) link
I enjoy thinking about that. What if every choice was the opposite but the results kept coming out the same?
Rewatching Yesterday's Enterprise for this poll, it occurred to me that it was mirror universe idea done seriously. It's lacking some of the charm.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Saturday, 5 November 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link
Q Who is maybe unremarkable in retrospect but felt pretty next-level at the time.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 5 November 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link
Also it has my favourite TNG episode formula - start banal, end terrifying
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 5 November 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link
My list.
http://a68.tinypic.com/4snuw6.jpg
― Jeff, Saturday, 5 November 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
saw the corbomite maneuver the other night and . . . it was pretty bad
apparently it was supposed to be the first non-pilot episode (although it ran later) so there's awkward character 'development', particularly of mccoy. the alien encounter had a countdown to doom that lasted forever, the payoff was absurd, the resolution lame (although it did rid us of an annoying ensign)
kirk was good tho
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 December 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link
Did morbz vote before he was banned
― Οὖτις, Friday, October 21, 2016 12:30 AM
i have no idea why you wanted to know how an antisemite like me ranked the original Jews in Space
also i haven't watched any of this stuff in 25 years
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 December 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link