Anticipate LA LA LAND, the musical starring Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone

i disagree for sure. i def got the feeling they were dreamers whose ambitions outweighed their actual talents, which i think is telegraphed by the fact that Emma and Gosling are two actors who can't since like Idina Menzel or whoever

i do love that her movie break comes after staging a poorly received glorified Fringe Festival one woman show

wonder what robert townsend thought of her screentest with the lines 'no YOU be trippin jamal'

i expected more thinkpieces for that line then digging into the cultural appropriation well re: The Jazz Question

idina menzel is awful tbh

fgti thats interesting because i really do think we have a clear path to watch this and consider it a lol @ the adult baby story!

xp the thinkpiece for that line was lol dangerous minds reference i mean cmon

I do love the scene where Ryan is jamming w/ his new band and suddenly the electronic/"impure" sounds start up and he stops playing, paralyzed, as if he's seen a live gorilla

never seen DM so that passed me by haha

darragh i didn't want to fp you for the Idina Menzel dis but i feel like my daughter would never forgive me if i didn't

but im sure someone could get some thinkpiece mileage out of how la la land illustrates the problem with hollywood casting agents in 2017

the best routine in the whole film btw is ES dancing to I Ran

xxxpost well it was more that subgenre really, as after DM, a lot of similar movies came out afterwards riding the same wave

she sure lived in a nice place for being a barista

its fair nv i got a challop and its a price you own

she sounds bad and hits bad notes. its a thing.

well she did say she only hits 75% of her notes so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g4ekwTd6Ig

listen to the awful last ten seconds of this lol

la la land songs are actually slightly less boring than the kamasi album imo

i feel like a lot of these but what-about-the-jazz complainers a) dont really know much about jazz (SORRY) b) just hate the film and need to pin their irrational hate onto something that makes them feel they have a genuine, worthwhile cause to explain their hate c) just want to dig their heels into the ground about something cos its such a big deal release right about now. ashley clark, who i usually find has tons of interesting stuff to say, seems to take umbrage with the idea of JL as being a 'threat' (is he? really? to what?) but i just see it as two people who love a genre but have v different views for it.

i think this is otm. i did a little jazz policing about it upthread, and though i'm still mixed on the LLL, i think hitting the movie for the crime of not recognizing LA's existing jazz scene is beside the point. i think this review addresses people mistaking gosling as a chazelle stand-in pretty well. This glenn kenny post touches on some of the same points and I think is a good take.

every new thing i hear about this movie makes it sound horrible. popping in here to see multipage arguments on Gosling as jazz nazi isn't exactly helping that situation.

sounds like Birdman 2.0, all style, no substance, jazz as lazy signifier of the authentic

thing is this is good and birdman is great so more fool you for avoiding based on people hanging shitty arguments they wanted to have on ninety minutes of entertainment

I have no idea what this movie is about.

butts

its 10 times better than birdman. and there is substance there. just dont expect it to be perfect. its like a slightly ramshackle (both in terms of the routines, the dancing, the characterisation and plot) indie musical with a studio budget.

and if anyone wants to make a white saviour argument for a new oscar hyped movie, lion is a far easier, and much, much, more deserving target.

It's better than Birdman but it's longer.

having trouble with LLL:

http://girishshambu.blogspot.com/2017/02/the-disenchantments-of-la-la-land.html

Better than "Birdman" (aka "Acting: The Movie") for sure (and don't forget, that film's score was just a long jazz drum solo). Lotsa "LLL" complaints revolve around its depiction of Los Angeles, and not what is pretty clearly a mythical, fictional "Los Angeles." So, like, on that front, who the fuck cares? It's La La Land.

it's a lazily written love story that relies too much on its novelty and whose characters' motivations aren't well illustrated.

definitely not a terrible movie, just kind of "meh" and unworthy of its hype among movie musical stans

I already forgot about this movie. I've seen most of the nominees by this point (still haven't seen Fences) and Moonlight is the best by a massive margin

Saw this on a plane today, checked out about 5-6 times (should've been 30 mins shorter) but was fair if not corny.

In the end, I think a mashup of Mulholland Drive & Ghost World (replacing blues with jazz) would be an interesting endeavor. Discus.

challop from Peter Labuza on "LLL-related" oldies

@labuzamovies Feb 12
AT LONG LAST LOVE (Bogdanovich, 75) If you can't sing and dance, take from a great repertory and make sure and be silly about it. Delovely.

At Long Last Love is also a huge stinker. One of the most difficult things I've ever sat through.

which version did you see though? http://www.indiewire.com/2013/06/at-long-last-the-definitive-version-of-at-long-last-love-131623/

the New Beverly did a double bill!

http://thenewbev.com/program/february-11-la-la-land-at-long-last-love/

the Bluray obv went out of print -- it's $180 on Amazon

A bunch of good, a bunch of bad, and I'm surprised at how much this wasn't for me.

For how much parts of it is a Demy ripoff (or homage or whatever) he fucks up the point of Demy. In Cherbourg the couple is condemned to mediocre lifes because of the Algerian war. Here, their ambition gets in the way, but they still both end up incredibly succesful. There's way too little darkness - even when Demy was at his lightest, in Demoiselle, there was an axe-murderer lurking at the periphery. Oh, and Seb is an asshole the first time they meet, the second time they meet, when they break up, and kinda when they temporarily reconcile. He just seemed like an asshole, so I was almost disappointed when he got his dream night club at the end. Also, the best musical moment is when John Legend turns on the EDM beats, that felt dangerous and fun, where most of the music - while catchy - became way too similar after a while. And for a film that keeps talking about 'crowds' and how the town and world is constantly moving on without them, everyone but them sure seems pointless. Her roommates, her parents, even her husband gets no personality at all. And John Legend just disappears as well all of a sudden, even if it's presumably through playing with him that Seb can afford his new club? Oh, and his sister has only one speaking scene, and then the rest of her story is told through montage, right?

The cinematography is good, though. Old fashioned, but good.

Not to rewrite the film, but I think a lot of criticism could have been avoided if Legends character had been at the club in the final scene. He loves jazz, he is Sebs friend, if he'd been there smiling and bobbing along it would seem as if they'd managed to navigate a tricky world together, instead of him just being a sellout and Seb being a hero.

not sure if she really deserves an oscar for this, but emma stone IS really good here. i would give her an award for most likeable/charming hollywood actress if that was an award.

wonder what miles teller is thinking at the moment...

Probably thinking about how he voted for Moonlight.

Miles Teller‏ @Miles_Teller

Congrats to Moonlight!!
5:28 am · 27 Feb 2017

Zizek!

http://thephilosophicalsalon.com/la-la-land-a-leninist-reading/

zizek?

L_ L_ land

what's the point of the ending? why after a film of hollywood fantasy now draw the line between the imagined happily ever after and their compromised relationship? just skip the new husband and have the dream sequence be the "true" ending the movie is too long already.

Well, if you didn't have the imagined ending, the film wouldn't be so Singing in the Rain. And if you didn't have the true ending, the film wouldn't be so Umbrellas of Cherbourg. You can't just stop the film when you still have films to rip off.

the point of the ending is that it's Sad, mordy

"the point of" ffs mordy

What's the point of a Hollywood comedy musical romance

U asked that

What's the point of a part of the plot of one

Ffs man

Have you seen the film, darragh?

the ending undermines the Hollywood comedy musical romance-ness of the film so it makes sense to ask to what end was it deployed against the more obvious happy ending. is it just bc at the last moment the filmmakers had a failure of nerves and thought audiences wouldn't buy something without a downer ending? i.e. too saccharine sweet if they end up together? very superficially they develop once or twice the theme of their work superseding their relationship (when he misses her play for the photo shoot, when he is going to have to tour and be away from her, and maybe something she did too tho even tho i saw the film last night i can't remember) but hardly enough to necessitate that ending or give it any resonance. honestly it seems a bit like they didn't have much to say beyond the look and the music and so put it in for some unearned gravitas the tragedy of love lost.