Social Activism in the Age of Trump: What To Do and What We Are Doing

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There have been calls for this thread and I think it's useful, so here you go. Busy this morning so can't contribute much right now but here's a quick step one:

http://www.injusticeboycott.com/

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

im adopting a wait and see approach

identity politics rooted in tolkienism (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 December 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

i'm definitely on board with the injustice boycott.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Saturday, 3 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link

Unfortunately, once the composition of Congress and the state legislatures are settled by elections, court cases are the only direct means of political action. Indirect political action would include lobbying, protests, and increasing public discourse. Charitable giving is always available to offset the loss of public social safety net programs, even if it is less effective than coordinated government action.

My wife and I are likely to double the amounts of contributions we make to political and charitable organizations in 2017. We're already stepping up our year-end contributions. The local food bank, environmental organizations, and the ACLU are high up on our list.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link

thanks for this thread

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

I forgot to mention Planned Parenthood and Oregon's US Senator Jeff Merkeley.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

i would argue that the us political system has become so debased and corrupt that "indirect action" is more meaningful and powerful, these days, than direct action. i am also less motivated in giving to organizations that will attempt to provide charitable alternatives to the collapse of our institutions than i am to organizations that are working to create stronger formal institutions. i'm sure that, for instance, knitting booties for homeless children is the best a lot of people feel they contribute, but that's not particularly my focus.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

i agree- our actions are now more codified within instituions for better or for worse. my list:

-i work for PP
-donate to ACLU
-trying to participate in the democratic party on a local level
-go to protests/pro-immigrant events etc

that's about what i've got

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

also paying for decent journalism

this reminds me to cancel my NYT subscription

global tetrahedron, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

Thanks for starting this thread. Injustice Boycott sounds like a decent place to start.
I'm cynical about the effect of protests, but I do think about joining. Often wonder if any individual action can have as much effect as say, corporations taking business out of North Carolina due to HB2. Protests can bring awareness to these things, and I guess every action is a tiny pebble...
Donations to sympathetic causes is a great idea and I'll give at convenient times but usually I don't have much to give.
Will consider subscribing to righteous news outlets. Who else besides WaPo is doing serious work out there?
Definitely considering volunteering, but not at all sure what to do.

Nhex, Sunday, 4 December 2016 08:42 (seven years ago) link

Shaun King has before been better at getting ideas than following through, so I'm cautiously optimistic about th injustices boykott. Such a good idea, but we'll see.

Frederik B, Sunday, 4 December 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link

I'd recommend watching this video for more background and info: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1215976078441308&id=799539910084929

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Sunday, 4 December 2016 13:20 (seven years ago) link

"Often wonder if any individual action can have as much effect as say, corporations taking business out of North Carolina due to HB2. Protests can bring awareness to these things, and I guess every action is a tiny pebble...
Donations to sympathetic causes is a great idea and I'll give at convenient times but usually I don't have much to give."

to me the upside of the trump phenomenon is realizing that major organizations can be coerced into making decisions based on vocal fringe minorities. ok, that's terrifying, but it also means that we don't have to represent "mainstream" thought or get a majority of people to agree with us in order to have a positive effect. corporations are more vulnerable to the pressure we place through vocal boycotts than government institutions are to the "power" of our vote.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 December 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

Curious how helpful/effective people find this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/174f0WBSVNSdcQ5_S6rWPGB3pNCsruyyM_ZRQ6QUhGmo/edit#gid=114941615
I am trying to set asid a half hour a day to make calls, dunno if that's a pointless thing to do or not but it's a start.
Have recurring gifts to the SPLC and Make the Road, volunteering with kids and animals and elderly when i can, trying to find a way to make art that addresses my thoughts, reading the news and watching NewsHour, sub to NYT but should likely do a WaPo digital sub, just started with a BK action group to get organized on women's health issues
yoga and jogging to keep my head right
it all feels pretty small potatoes, dunno what else i should be doing

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

signed up for the injustice boycott but very skeptical that 200,000 people are going to make a difference w a nationwide boycott

the late great, Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link

Hmmm. I think there are more and less effective ways to use boycott as a form of protest, and organizations which are more and less vulnerable to boycotts.

The first thing I wonder is if "quiet" boycotts are necessarily less effective than ones which are accompanied by consistent propaganda pressure. My wife, for instance, has been boycotting Hobby Lobby for some time to no apparent effect. There's not really any organized opposition to Hobby Lobby, just grumbling at dinner parties.

The second thing I wonder, as regards Hobby Lobby, is if their non-monopoly status might not diffuse the effect of a boycott. When we need craft stuff, we go to Joann's. If Hobby Lobby were to completely remove their objectionable corporate policies, you know, we'd still get our stuff from Joann's, because it's become a habit of ours. So, since Hobby Lobby's policies aren't costing them anything, why should they change those policies?

The third thing is that if you're in a business, you cater to certain markets, and those markets are accompanied by certain prevalent political beliefs. So, for instance, Home Depot may have policies I find anathema, but I do not own a home, and do not undertake "home improvement" projects. My perception, which may be incorrect, is that the demographic which _does_ undertake home improvement projects, by and large, aligns politically with the political positions endorsed by Home Depot management. So this does not strike me as being a particularly fruitful area in which to undertake a boycott.

The fourth thing is that a lot of boycotts are based on misinformation and insufficient information. I was a little embarrassed this year or last year when people started boycotting Target for being too trans-friendly, because I was still boycotting Target for being too anti-gay. I'm not sure if they were anti-gay at some point and just changed their position, or if the belief that they were, as a corporate entity, anti-gay was simply based on a misinterpretation.

So, then, an effective boycott should be based on the boycotters, as consumers, doing without, rather than picking another choice to have their wants met. It should be accompanied by a great deal of noise and hoopla. It should, at the same time, take great pains to convey effective information and avoid misinforming its participants. Its participants, in turn, should be those who may be reasonably expected to purchase the goods or services offered by the boycotted company. Finally, it should be targeted towards an industry which does not stand to gain more than it stands to lose from anti-Trump boycotts.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

Glad this thread exists.

I know we've got a lot of musicians on ILX, and have been thinking I'd like to contribute to some sort of benefit compilation. For Planned Parenthood, ACLU, SPLC - organizations that could help people who this administration could hurt.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 4 December 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

Lee Fang ‏@lhfang 4. dec.
From the conservative turned BLM activist who crashed Bernie's Seattle rally then lied about it: a whole new scam: http://safetypinbox.com

Everyone is trying to figure out what to do, but something not to? Tweet libelous lies about black women trying to make performative white wokeness work directly for Black women. Especially if your beef is that they once criticized Bernie Sanders. Sites like TheIntercept needs to cut ties with cyberbullies like Lee Fang.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link

a thought for today for any technophiles.

i think we can all acknowledge at this point that the internet is basically a teenage nazi chatbot at this point. so any activity that disrupts normal - i.e. fascist - internet discourse is of greater than ordinary utility in resisting fascism.

this need not take the form of sabotage! the internet in general is very insecure and totally vulnerable to attack, so vulnerable that most of these attacks have evolved to be parasitic rather than directly destructive as they were in the old days, but there are plenty of completely legal and effective ways for technophiles to sever the host/parasite relationship.

my impression is that most people, and certainly most trump supporters, have no very clear notion of how to use or maintain an internet connection. refusing to assist others with internet connectivity issues would, at bare minimum, significantly raise the cost of staying connected to the internet. the weak part of any state is its reliance on technocracy, and disrupting technocratic communication through noncompliance is a relatively simple and effective matter.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, 5 December 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link

My experience with various kinds of social justice-y organizations in the last few years has been that a top-down organization is not for me. I tried being in a "money out of politics" org that does state govt-level maneuvering and mostly only gathers people together under their banner for the purpose of giving the org more visibility and their leaders a slightly bigger bargaining chip. Most of the members don't do much on the ground when it's not election season. My heart wasn't in it.

At this point in life my job is sjw-y and I work with frontline communities, but if you don't have this advantage then my advice is pick an issue area where you are passionate, look around online at the landscape of orgs, and reach out to organizations of affected minorities, immigrants, LGTBQ ppl, unsheltered/housing insecure ppl, etc and ask what they need and then do it in whatever way you are asked for. Let the people from that affected community lead, and support them. Learn not to talk at meetings even when you think you know the answer (I'm so bad at this). Ask one person later in confidence if your idea has merit, and let someone else advance it.

If you want to get involved in local govt by all means do it! PTA leadership, school board, zoning committee, idk what is out there but frankly I suspect a lot of it is pretty boring and actually a lot of work. Make the casseroles, sit through the meetings, keep your eye on the ball so when someone tries to ban a book or remove sex ed or w/e you are at the meeting and not reading about it in the paper the next day thinking "Jeez why didn't anyone say anything??"

Giving money is not a cop out! Grassroots orgs always need money. Economic inequality is super real and your dollar can do a lot for a community org. Whatever values you admire, whatever resources you consume, fund them. When you read an article and you think, "That kids' mentoring thing with the free books is cool and made me have hope for humanity for at least 10 seconds" throw them $10. I pay $5 a month or $10 a month to a handful of orgs, just using low level continued giving so I don't even really notice it.

The specifics of what you can do will be mostly about your situation! Where you are, how much time you have. Generally I think it's most sustainable for ppl, in terms of time and emotional commitment, to act in their existing circles more or less rather than make the rare big gesture.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

Great post, in orbit. That mirrors a lot of things I've been thinking about and provides some solid advice. I want to focus as much personal attention as possible on my local community while throwing small but steady amounts of money at some worthwhile national orgs.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link

I'm sorry for every place that isn't Minneapolis because you just aren't this cool, but here's an example of a local good thing to support: http://appetiteforchangemn.org

Appetite For Change uses food as a tool building health, wealth, and social change in North Minneapolis. AFC is a community-led organization that strengthens families, creates economic prosperity, and encourages healthy living.

http://watchtheyard.com/activism/these-black-kids-rapping-about-urban-farming-is-the-dopest-thing-youll-see-all-week/

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link

*Giving money is not a cop out! Grassroots orgs always need money. Economic inequality is super real and your dollar can do a lot for a community org. Whatever values you admire, whatever resources you consume, fund them. When you read an article and you think, "That kids' mentoring thing with the free books is cool and made me have hope for humanity for at least 10 seconds" throw them $10. I pay $5 a month or $10 a month to a handful of orgs, just using low level continued giving so I don't even really notice it.*

^^^this. a friend of mine founded a non-profit in NM for immigrants (which i will shamelessly plug: http://www.santafedreamersproject.org/what-we-do/) and after Trump got elected she was approached by all kinds of folks who wanted to help, like, stuff envelopes and make coffee and what-not. all of which she appreciated but what she really needed was money, because money pays lawyers to do the actual work. getting involved in organizations by showing up and being visible and doing what's asked is def Right and Good, but if, as Laurel says, economic inequality is real and you happen to be on the "haves" end of the curve, then you are probably most useful as a source of dollars. some folks can feel like its a cop-out, and others want the validation of being in the trenches, but for real: just write a check

jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link

I guess basically if you aren't leading the charge, letting communities and organizations tell you what they need from you is the best way to go.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link

Yep!!

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Monday, 5 December 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

Also you can do more than one thing, so if you keep a low profile in one space as a personal policy to support others, maybe find another space where you can express yourself openly just for balance. I'm practically allergic to shutting up so I need both.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Monday, 5 December 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

injustice boycott sounds good but i've read some very pointed critiques of sean king, how close is he to the leadership of it? he's all over their FB page

global tetrahedron, Monday, 5 December 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

He's involved in the organization and he's the public face, but it's unclear who exactly is involved because they're intentionally keeping a lid on the details. Watch the video I linked to yesterday for more info.

I'm not sure what the critiques of King are about but if the targets and the motive seem sound to me, I'm generally unconcerned with who's spearheading the endeavor.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Monday, 5 December 2016 15:49 (seven years ago) link

I signed up but am waiting to see what the targeted companies are. I'm not very interested in nitpicking this or that person's exact righteousness unless it comes to my attention from a trusted source that they did something fucked up or their analysis is secretly terrible or something, I can't even really imagine an example right now. A boycott that keeps my resources out of the hands of companies who will use them for things I disagree with seems like a win-win regardless.

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Monday, 5 December 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

this was the article. that said, this injustice boycott seems really organized and thought-out so i am gonna participate probably when more details come out

http://www.complex.com/life/2016/01/shaun-king-black-lives-matter/

global tetrahedron, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

The announcement of their intended targets is supposed to be noon today.

dan selzer, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

As I see it, there are two parts to the criticism of Shaun King 1) He does seem quite disorganized, and keeps putting himself at the center of events and happenings. And while that's kinda good, he's a good writer and a smart thinker and a good promoter, he does seem to bite off more than he can chew. 2) He's a leftist black man, so every little misstep is magnified into enormous proportions. 99% of everything written about him is probably untrue. That does not mean he will be good at organizing a boycott, though...

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 16:52 (seven years ago) link

Guess I'll post this here since a search turned up no results. Shaun King is spearheading an Injustice Boycott that starts Monday.

― i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Friday, December 2, 2016 7:09 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post

I'm in

― El Tomboto, Friday, December 2, 2016 7:15 PM (three days ago)

and I'm out. Terrible targeting, no clear idea what specific policies I would be supporting, and not at all clear what exactly I'd be doing differently. Dumb on all the counts that boycotts are usually dumb, PLUS no details on what is going on other than a date in January.

We're screwed.

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

San Francisco and New York are two cities that are all but impossible to boycott for most of the people you've gotten the attention of. Profoundly, profoundly stupid.

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

poll the boycott list lol

Dave Plaintive rapper with classical training (imago), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

yeah ummmm 'boycott all businesses headquartered in NYC or SF' seems a bit nebulous

global tetrahedron, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

Especially for people who live there

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link

starting with new york and san francisco, huh? that's... bold. particularly when the email comes from a new york daily news email account...

i see the justification for it. if you don't have justice in cities like new york and san francisco - and you don't - then how can one reasonably act in support of justice anywhere? shouldn't boycotts take place in the areas most affected by them? you know, the third city... boycotting standing rock is not going to make fuck-all difference to anybody, and we have to recognize this.

that said, the lack of a clearly defined end state for these boycotts is problematic. i get the feeling like king or whoever had planned for so long he didn't want to waste all that effort. the most important part of a boycott is _ending_ it; if it's nothing more than "fuck you forever" it's hard to expect meaningful results.

i also think that a key part of a successful boycott is _doing without_. i just don't see how simply re-balancing one's expenditures can accomplish much. so my question is, if i'm boycotting new york, if i'm boycotting san francisco - what am i _doing without_? what's my equivalent of getting up at five in the morning and walking to work for a year straight?

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

Everyone is trying to figure out what to do, but something not to? Tweet libelous lies about black women trying to make performative white wokeness work directly for Black women. Especially if your beef is that they once criticized Bernie Sanders. Sites like TheIntercept needs to cut ties with cyberbullies like Lee Fang.

― Frederik B, Sunday, December 4, 2016 7:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hardworking catholic bishops trying to make the desire of people to pay for indulgences work directly for catholic bishops

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link

It's not all businesses headquartered in NYC or SF, but only those involved in police brutality and systematic racism, right? But, um, would probably have been a good idea to have a partial list up already...

I'm almost positively surprised because my suspicions were so low, but, this needs to become a lot better in the next 43 days for it to work at all.

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

It's not all businesses headquartered in NYC or SF, but only those involved in police brutality and systematic racism, right? But, um, would probably have been a good idea to have a partial list up already...

― Frederik B, Monday, December 5, 2016 12:47 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so glad that twitter activists will be refusing to shop at Joe Mook's Billyclub and Taser Emporium and "Heeeeeyy, I'm being Systematically Racist Here, Inc." and, uh, the policeman's ball.

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

s.clover, you can't seriously think black women play an equivalent part to what catholic bishops did in the indulgence system?

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

Like, you seem dumb as fuck, but clearly not even you are that dumb?

Frederik B, Monday, 5 December 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link

I tend to think the most important "activism" right now is actually rebuilding local and state democratic parties (or third parties like Working Families that will still support democrats when necessary). The only check on Trump's power will come from congress and from state governments.

Sorry, not "the only" check, but one of the most important checks.

yes i think they are exactly equivalent because i have never been introduced to the concept of an analogy

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyzkgfxVEAA0AIw.jpg

the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 5 December 2016 17:54 (seven years ago) link

that's incredible.

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

Whoa

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

I'm sorry but is that a Peace Poet just off camera?

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Friday, 15 December 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

That is fucking awesome.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 15 December 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

Hahah IO it would not shock me to know a Peace Poet is just off camera

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

Btw this is the "high-drama action" I was anticipating a few posts ago

If you wanna plug in to affiliated action next week sign up for one of those webinars I'm hosting that I linked to--first one is in a little more than 90 minutes!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

press conf. day 4 of their being held, and they've begun a hunger strike:

https://www.facebook.com/seedproject/videos/1757558414546262/?hc_ref=ARSTgThRq93HipwbypOJ0vIEkcEwjhskyZcGTZ6DlJcbyv4KUg2PdP14ykI1uLtwaxo

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link

xxp There was some monotonous and not very good singing going on so I just assumed.

Not to detract from the badassery and bravery currently being shown by these 7 DACA hunger strikers.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link

hah i do much prefer when we can carry a tune

i'm not really a fan of the flobots music but i really like this essay from one of them on the power of song for movements--it's part of why song is so crucial for seed proj & other orgs that are part of the momentum family, even when the singing leaves something to be desired.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

I love to sing and I love to sing choral music, and I would go to SO MANY PROTESTS

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 18 December 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link

...if they involved singing for several hours instead of walking and yelling things.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 18 December 2017 21:02 (six years ago) link

I think taking 6 songs from different traditions and teaching the parts in the crowd, one at a time, with song leaders people could follow to keep it going, would be phenomenal. Don't let churches have all the tunes!

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 18 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

hey hey ho ho pointless chanting has got to go

Nachobi-wan (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 December 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

cosign

sleeve, Monday, 18 December 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

in my last org we literally started or ended every actual real business meeting with a song and maybe 75% of the time it was restorative and community building and fun and felt great

and then 25% of the time it would be the founder enthusiastically casting around for someone to start a song while we all just begrudgingly got through it so we could go do our work

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link

lol yes no forced singing. And, my point, the songs should really be closer to something you'd listen to or sing for fun, not something you grind out for The Cause.

I mean look at churches. They're terrible, their whole schtick is terrible, most church organists and pianists are serviceable at best, and yet HYMNS. HYMNS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD. I can have a good 19th cent. hymn stuck in my head for a week and I don't even believe in that shit.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:21 (six years ago) link

repetition is very powerful -- how many times had you heard those hymns? many times for many years. what other songs could you really say that about, esp at a formative age?
i do agree about church/gospel songs for sure.

walking and singing for me please
i'll take inspirational stuff but no popular music - i don't want to sing "we're not gonna take it" with feeling
i could stand to have a marching band playing something cool
my dad took me to one of john lewis's walks across the edmund pettus bridge in selma and i will not deny that i cried (a lot, not just repressed constipated tears/throat lump) while singing

into this idea, would give me a reason to go because honestly i hate yelling

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

Yeah now that you mention it there was one BLM protest when Selma, the movie, had just come out, and we walked through Harlem (iirc) while someone pulled speakers playing "Glory" and it was one of the most powerful moments I can remember having at a movement event. I also hate yelling and the performative anger & conviction that you're somehow supposed to telegraph for 5 hours straight in the cold.

Anyway a clean Dream Act, very important. One thing I don't get, maybe Hoos does, is people on my timeline saying "They called ICE :( :( :(" because once you purposefully make headlines as undocumented people getting arrested, doesn't ICE pretty much just know where to find you? Rally in support of the 7 tonight in Union Square.

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:46 (six years ago) link

i think there are a lot of people who don't enjoy yelling

it's not a future i hope for us, but i can imagine hilarious scenarios of thousands of people singing "war pigs" in unison

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link

yeah like man in the last year i have just fuckin lost it during songs happening at high-strung moments

right after the election we got up one morning and sang "eyes on the prize" and i was just a mess

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

that's what this is all about imo
it helps you gather strength and also express emotion
sorry (not sorry) to be a cheese

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

i'd be way into being in a drum corps with some horns playing some uplifting tunes
even in the cold! idk i have the wherewithal to organize it, but i would accept an invitation for sure

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 18 December 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

once you purposefully make headlines as undocumented people getting arrested, doesn't ICE pretty much just know where to find you?

― Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Monday, December 18, 2017 10:46 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes and no--jail solidarity is a way to stall that process out, as is deliberately planning actions in ostensible sanctuary cities that won't cooperate with ICE.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 18 December 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

pro-Dreamer action for NYC tonight

Event Name: #CleanDREAMActNow Rally
What: Rally
When: Tues., Dec. 19 at 6:30 p.m.
Where: Sen. Chuck Schumer's Home, 9 Prospect Park West, Brooklyn, NY 11215

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 December 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This morning, ICE detained Ravi Ragbir, Executive Director of New Sanctuary Coalition of New York City, prominent immigrant rights activist and father, despite having pending legal challenges.

Call ICE:
NYC ICE Field Office Director: 212-238-4530
NYC ICE Field Office: 212-264-4213
ICE Office of Policy: 202-732-4292

Script: “Hello, my name is_____, and I am requesting that ICE release Ravi Ragbir, A Number: 044-248-862. Ravi was detained today in New York City. Ravi is a husband, father, and cherished community leader, and we need him here in the United States. I respectfully ask you to release him from detention and grant him a new stay of removal. Thank you.”

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 11 January 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

Sunrise is a group of good young people doing some of the most important work going this year. This speaking tour is intended to absorb new members that will be the footsoldiers first in bird-dogging efforts through the summer town halls, and then form part of the volunteer base for climate champion candidates across the country. Having a Sunrise leader speak in your community--at your church, your campus, your community center--is just the first step in their longer haul plan, and I'm really excited to be a part of it. You can sign up at the link below.

Sunrise is building an army of young people to stop climate change and create millions of good jobs in the process. We unite to make climate change an urgent priority across this country, end the corrupting influence of fossil fuel executives on our politics, and elect leaders who stand up for the health and wellbeing of all people. In February, we’re sending teams of Sunrise Speakers on tour to host community events about climate change, why it’s happening, and what we can do together right now to make 2018 a watershed moment in the fight to stop climate change.

Our presentation covers the impacts of climate change today, why it’s happening, and share what young people across the United States are doing to stop climate change and strengthen our communities in the process. For high school audiences, our presentation meets Next Generation Science Standards and will leave students with tangible next steps to make climate change a visible and urgent issue in their community.

If you are interested in hosting an event, fill out the form below and we will be in touch!

https://actionnetwork.org/forms/host-a-sunrise-event-this-spring-2?link_id=1&can_id=c92e434a820194b0a5d86c4da21346cf&source=email-9-speakers-5-states-12000-young-people-2&email_referrer=email_288097&email_subject=9-speakers-5-states-12000-young-people

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

Women ‘s marches and events this weekend

curmudgeon, Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

The right hates politically active college students—especially those of color—above all b/c it’s the only time in many peoples lives they’re not 60k in debt and arent paranoid of their bosses and can ask deeper questions about society e.g. the ultimate sin in capitalism.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) February 20, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 15:56 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

DSA Refoundation makes their pitch for not endorsing Nixon and co.

https://medium.com/@NBKNoOnNixon/the-case-against-endorsing-cynthia-nixon-and-jumaane-williams-21a94bbb7b18

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

imo this is good

*reflexively tightens message board armor*

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

The Medium piece makes many extremely good arguments -- agree.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Even more in-depth stuff from Ackerman on electoral strategy and the peculiarities of US electoral politics

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/07/electoral-rules-third-party-ballot-line-ocasio-cortez-dsa

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 15:09 (five years ago) link

I really appreciate Ackerman contending with the realities of first past the post voting and the degree to which the two parties have a structurally enforced monopoly on power at the federal level--not enough people who think about the viability of "third parties" take these structural problems into account. I also think he's right that we need a party-like structure, but I'm with Refoundation in believing it's got to be a party in the "mass" sense of the term; what he describes here for his (uh) party-like sounds more like Corbyn's Momentum or even Bernie's Our Rev, a membership org with a line whose main political gesture is working to hold its ostensible elected champions to account. As my gf likes to say "that's what Our Rev is for."

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

Do you know of any existing models to base such a party on (or at least derive inspiration)?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

The Labor Party in the US provides an interesting and relatively recent example:

https://socialistrevolution.org/the-fight-for-socialism-and-the-lessons-of-the-labor-party

Ultimately what I think is to be done is build an organization capable of doing what Ackerman describes _along with_ a primary capacity of mass action, study, agitation, and organizing--which is to say, something like a fusion of DSA and Our Rev, whether through a strategic popular front alliance or a literal fusion.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

Also a good historical dive on the distinctions between the two here: https://rtuc.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/the-concept-of-a-mass-party/

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

oh duh also Syriza

they and others are favorably cited here: http://socialistnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Socialists-and-the-Mass-Organisations-Ver-2.pdf

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

cheers HOOS

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Last pushes?

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Sunday, 4 November 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

Really shocked to canvass for Max Rose yesterday in Bay Ridge and see literally zero Donovan canvassers in the area (and heard that it was similar in Staten Island), and equally as shocked to get so many enthusiastic responses while textbanking for Indiana today.

Have to say, textbanking has been really gratifying, esp. as someone who haaaaaaates phonebanking and generally talking on the phone to strangers. Folks have been really responsive, and have already had a few long texts helping random people figure out where they need to be or what they'll need.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Sunday, 4 November 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

The GOTV push will not end until Tuesday evening, so if you can contact a local campaign you support, they ought to be able to slot you in still.

This year has been too crazy at home to do any volunteering. We did increase our donations to nine different politically active organizations in 2017 and maintained that level again this year. We also gave $100 to the Blue Wave PAC founded by Sen. Merkeley and another $100 to the Oregon's Democratic governor's campaign. It's what we could do.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 4 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link

We went out (with kids!) to Tracy, CA (~1.5hrs from our home in SF) to support Josh Harder for the House yesterday. The volunteer office was buzzing, I saw a former co-worker. We went to a Democrat-friendly neighborhood in Tracy proper. Probably didn't help that much but good to do something.

In retrospect I wish we had driven further and gone to help out Jessica Morse, who we also like but who has less of a supply of volunteers to draw from.

fajita seas, Monday, 5 November 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

VOTE HARDER

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 November 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

Contacting Iowa Dems this morning out of pure spite, very encouraging amount of responses. Less than a day left to vengefully GOTV!

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

I recommend this program to support people in ICE detention, if you're in California:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MOIfwwLrGcgJf15sv_eqW_38FCKfv4Pgdq4UOhA2Fnk/edit#

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link

in light of recent Border Patrol/ICE coordination threat, worth bearing in mind:

Many ICE agents say their jobs have become increasingly difficult, three years into Trump’s presidency, because of robust campaigns by immigrant advocacy organizations seeking to safeguard immigrants living in the country illegally by educating them on the legal limitations that ICE officers face. As a result, in many communities where immigrants living in the country illegally reside, when ICE agents are spotted, people now turn immediately to their phones to alert neighbors that they should stay inside.

support/participate in these types of activities, people

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

Gee, ICE agents say their jobs are more "difficult" when immigrants know the "legal limitations ICE officers face". Fuck them. Fuck them royally, for being nostalgic for when they were more easily able to exceed their fucking legal limitations.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 14 February 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link

as far as I can tell a lot of those limitations are because they are enforcing *civil* infractions with these sweeps, which places significant restraints on what level of force/tactics they are allowed to use

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 February 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link

did some canvassing for jessica cisneros again (progressive house candidate running against conservative dem henry cuellar) and her stafffer told me today that their polls show a tied race, so here's hoping she pulls off the upset

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Sunday, 23 February 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

So - admitting I'm far too much of a coward to throw myself in front of bullets - what can be done to fight the inherent dead-ender shitstorm that's coming this week?

Nhex, Monday, 11 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link


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