On Your Marks, Get Set, Baaaaake! A Thread for Great British Baking Show / Bake Off & all of its sundry delights

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My knowledge only covers Netflix US-aired seasons which are the English Bake Off seasons 4/5/6 (it's confusing I know)

Let us now discuss Russet Gandalfs, bread lions, genoese sponges & why you dont throw your baked alaska in the bin

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:43 (seven years ago) link

S1 - Nancy is a BOSS i love her
Scottish Norman is adorable
Russet Gandalf Ian <3

S2 - Ruby is my fave
Kimberly is a genius
Frances is lovely but her teeth scare me
Howard <3

s3 NADIYA FOREVER but seriously I have seem this season 3 times and i love it so much, they're all lovely esp Matt the Fireman

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link

sue & mel are grate i love them

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:43 (seven years ago) link

so weird seeing it called "baking show", it's like calling 30 rock "television building"

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 01:53 (seven years ago) link

not thrilled about it either, trying not to dwell

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link

soz

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:33 (seven years ago) link

lol no its cool *rages-*

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link

Great British Flour & Sugar Hour

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:35 (seven years ago) link

gifs i have loved

King Luis

http://goodtoknow.media.ipcdigital.co.uk/111/000012e0d/6079/Luis.gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:43 (seven years ago) link

Norman the Scot & his adorable semaphore

http://tvdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/norman.gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:47 (seven years ago) link

We have all been this Dorrett

http://i.imgur.com/kBUntMB.gif

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 06:49 (seven years ago) link

The Dorrett thing is SO SAD

I always scream when people drop their food, or like a layer falls off the top off a cake - I don't know why, it makes me really nervous, like watching a small child on a really tall climbing frame.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 09:13 (seven years ago) link

Mr Veg found the first 3 seasons of Bake-Off for me on the t0rentz

Season 1 format is rather different! The tent travels round to different cities, they eliminate 2 bakers each episode, and Sue and Mel do a lot of 'history of the biscuit' 'history of the cake' interstitial stuff during challenges so it's not 100% baking heavy the way it is now. Which isn't great, cuts too much into the baking which is the best part. Also episode 1 inside the tent was shot very jumpily, and not very well light, so it wasn't nearly as colorful as it quickly became in the next episode. Thankfully they fixed that pretty quick.
Mary Berry's hair is very flat!
Bakers call out to the judges and ask how much time is left!
And there's some dude doing the voiceover which is v weird.

Favorite moment so far was Ep 1 with Sue sitting on a blanket inside a stone ring with an eccentric-voiced longhaired baking historian discussing bannocks and I have NO idea how she sat through that without bursting into gales of laughter. I wish I could find a photo of him.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link

oh and:
signature bakes are a little bit looser: bake any kind of cake, bake any kind of biscuit
technicals so far have been basics like victoria sponges or scones, but the bakers are given the ingredients only: no method at all

and there's a weird little canteen area in back where bakers can go up and ask for items, one lady ran over and asked for double cream.

it's kind of fun seeing how it's all evolved!

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link

god the showstoppers are out of control on S1

SIX different types of bread rolls, half a dozen each! 3 savory, 3 sweet

SIX canapes, 3 savory, 3 sweet, half a dozen each!

Three puddings: suet, baked, crumble!

they must have drowned in leftovers, holy shit

i would have ptsd after these

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 05:55 (seven years ago) link

it is crazy how good this show is at building flopsweat tension around some of the lowest stakes imaginable

frankie r. failson (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 March 2017 11:47 (seven years ago) link

Every week has the "are they going to complete this in time for the judges" montage before the end of the round, and ALMOST EVERY TIME it's completely fine, and yet it worries me every single episode

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 6 March 2017 14:57 (seven years ago) link

totally!! it's a very chill show compared to top chef etc but I still get stressed out

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 6 March 2017 16:40 (seven years ago) link

s1 almost done

- can't STAND ruth and it makes me feel bad bc shes a good baker etc. idk. buu her stupid "boy bait" pudding and making quiche for the finale "for the men" it's like she's pandering to paul and it drives me barmy

-they have clearly done some work reigning in paul bc he was a borderline WANKER in this season. key moment: dismissed ruth's cupcakes as too girly AS THE ONLY MAN ON A PANEL OF WOMEN!! and farting on about stuff looking commercial & professional ragh i love him now but i could slap him almost once every episode

- mary berry telling miranda she reminded her of hrself when she was young <3 that would make my life

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:35 (seven years ago) link

S2 report:

Next to Tamal, Rob is the most beautiful creature I have seen in this show so far

*dies*

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 05:00 (seven years ago) link

though I would have eloped with Keith in college imo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 8 March 2017 05:03 (seven years ago) link

Hi! I'm watching the Netflix season now, and it's so refreshing watching a reality competition without any producer-mandated villains.

Also, I forget who said it, but when I heard somebody mention "roasted veg" I got a good chuckle.

Also also I have a crush on Kate.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link

Like she is more Captain Chaos than Jordan ever was.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:11 (seven years ago) link

Also also also I decided to put closed captions on because SO MANY ACCENTS, but even with the subtitles, I still have no clue what the contestants are talking about.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Thursday, 9 March 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

Kate is v cool but def has captain chaos tendencies

Though lets be real, the *true* Captain Chaos is Jordan Crazy Teeth

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 March 2017 23:57 (seven years ago) link

Maybe Jordan didn't last long enough to impress his chaos on me, but with Kate, she's up one week, then down the next, then oh noes her dough is still raw and yet she ends up in second place anyway! She is a roller coaster!

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2017 02:41 (seven years ago) link

I dunno I just picture Jordan covered head to foot in flour with a saucepan burning in the background

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 03:29 (seven years ago) link

Kate's hair fascinated me. Like this amazing curly braided amazingness. And she seemed like she'd be cool to hang out with

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 03:31 (seven years ago) link

Speaking of hair, Chetna's haircut is soooo stylish, love it.

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link

yes! also her grey is so good

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 19:55 (seven years ago) link

Chetna was my baking crush

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:37 (seven years ago) link

Russet Gandalf was p cute but I think I kiiiind of fancy Richard? Dimples + pencil behind the ear is a winning combo

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:41 (seven years ago) link

and i have a girlcrush on Nancy. She's saucy

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

It's only natural that the Queen of Spices has pepper in her hair! xxxps

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Friday, 10 March 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

Very distracted by Deborah and those pictures of her husband and child which are just really hard to make sense of given her apparent age.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

And why are there only photos to show? Did she steal someone else's photos like she steals ingredients??

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

dude that's pretty ageist & mean

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 20:46 (seven years ago) link

I mean yeah, sorry...but...don't you wonder about people's lives? There's a story there.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

there's a differemce between "wondering" & "side-eyeing"

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:41 (seven years ago) link

I finished Season 2 of English bake off & it's pretty marvellous

Jo's such a love - bubbly but terrified, Essex mum finally doing "something for herself". I read online that her husband was doing 16 years in jail for money laundering at the time. Which just made me love her more. she seemed like she mightve had a hard life & that confirmed it

and MaryAnne!! What a treat. Rugby champion, baking historian, mum, wizard. Amazing. She has a book!

Janet was hilarious - mr veg said her facial expressions reminded him of Beaker from the muppets

lots of great women in this season.

As for the guys -

dreamboat Rod turned out to be a bit of a disaster, very disorganized, bit too cavalier. he definitely put the wind up Paul, I've never seen the silver fox come down on a baker like he did with Rod.

sweet baby Jason had sooooooo much potential, very talented for one so young but was just a tad too green for the big leagues. Definitely fun to watch though.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 22:52 (seven years ago) link

I just finished the Chetna season! I really admired Richard for his ability to laugh at himself, and it was sad to see him crumble in the last week, though I would've been fine with any of the final three winning. (When they showed a picture of a young Richard with a full head of hair, I can see why Veg might crush on him!)

One episode into the next season, and watching Ruby struggle with her lack of self-confidence is so painful (I empathize with her completely), I'm not sure I can handle a whole season's worth (I caught a random episode of this season on PBS and know she hangs around for at least a little while).

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 23:59 (seven years ago) link

Rubes is one of my favorites, I love her so much.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 02:01 (seven years ago) link

She looks like the daughter of Saffron Burrows and Elizabeth Berkeley, plus her look of utter astonishment when she was Star Baker in bread week was lolz.

That aside, this cast is so much less likeable than the previous one! So many stubborn people and/or people whose insecurities are showing. :(

Downtown Julie Mau (Leee), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:48 (seven years ago) link

Yeah... it grew on me though. Francis is kind of a crazy sorcerer with her amazing showstoppers, i'm in awe of her creativity

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 03:56 (seven years ago) link

Slight crush on Kimberley from that season. And Howard is all-time great.

Richard had a weird Martin Freeman vibe, I thought

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 11:40 (seven years ago) link

(in a good way)

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 11:40 (seven years ago) link

I wrote a tl:dr blog post about GBBO for my own amusement...

http://tourdefrump.blogspot.com/2017/03/perfection-failure-and-why-great.html

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 March 2017 03:10 (seven years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2017/mar/16/noel-fielding-and-sandi-toksvig-to-host-new-great-british-bake-off

Noel Fielding and Sandi Toksvig to host new Great British Bake Off

New presenters will join new judge Prue Leith and Bake Off stalwart Paul Hollywood in the Channel 4 version of the show

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:38 (seven years ago) link

That should kill it off then.

Ongar Is An Energy (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 March 2017 22:49 (seven years ago) link

He's trying too hard - thai curry cheesecake or whatever, for ex. He is the kind of contestant who will go out via an unforced error. My mother-in-law said the other night she doesn't like him because he talks through his teeth.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Sunday, 19 November 2023 20:41 (five months ago) link

i found Christy very tiresome with her crying & fretting. And she’s so #livelaughlove always going on about her family like it depressed me how little inner life/confidence she had
she was a good baker but omg she drove me up a wall

obv i am a monater

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2023 21:37 (five months ago) link

*monster

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 19 November 2023 21:37 (five months ago) link

Christy is so stressful to watch. No idea what the casting team were doing there, she just felt like she was teetering on the verge of a breakdown all the way through with no redemption coming at all at any stage.

Dan's absolutely that guy that befriends you on day one of your holiday and then you can't get rid of him the rest of the week.

ailsa, Monday, 20 November 2023 08:40 (five months ago) link

i found Christy very tiresome with her crying & fretting

yes, omg. "oh. oh no. it's not worked. oh no. it's awful. i'm going home. oh now." [manages masterpiece] what an annoying drip.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Monday, 20 November 2023 10:31 (five months ago) link

she'd wind my partner up too, who would then say, "oh, but I think it's pretty clear she has some bad self-esteem issues" and then we'd be both feeling bad for finding cristy irritating. but then it would be "oh, oh no, oh god, it's not worked, oh".

i find dan a bit irritating too, but again, i don't think he's awful. I'm already happy if any of the remaining dudes win. i'm pretty certain it'll be tasha, who is just very good and always nails the flavours even if there are issues elsewhere. i find josh a bit of a charisma vacuum but he's clearly talented. i really love matty's vibe, i don't think he has a chance of winning but if he makes top 3 i'll be very glad.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Monday, 20 November 2023 10:35 (five months ago) link

Interesting - I don’t find her anxiety offputting - it seems like the correct level of anxiety for a very stressful show? Like, a coping mechanism rather than compliment-fishing self pity (which is more annoying). IMO there’s something steely behind it - like she’d be the first to shiv you in prison if needs be.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 20 November 2023 10:58 (five months ago) link

The "oh. oh no. it's not worked. oh no. it's awful. i'm going home. oh now." [manages masterpiece] " schtick worked for Ruby Tandoh and even got her a media career out of it. Maybe Christy should have thrown in stripping like a mardy teenager for it to have worked.

(fwiw it bugs me too but there's someone like it nearly every series and I found her "as a mother" more annoying)

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 20 November 2023 16:07 (five months ago) link

i loved Ruby so yeah idk why christy bugged me in that regard

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 November 2023 17:34 (five months ago) link

i see myself in people that are so hard on themselves they are not having a good time when they should be, so that contestant type in reality tv is alternately funny and compelling to me

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 20 November 2023 17:41 (five months ago) link

you would think i would be the same but no lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 November 2023 18:49 (five months ago) link

Ruby was spiky and you couldn’t imagine her typing ‘Hunni’ in the group chat.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 20 November 2023 18:53 (five months ago) link

Ruby was wetter and moodier than any proverbial. I could imagine her not being in the group chat because her mum had limited her screen time because she didn't clear her plate of chicken nuggets even though she said she wanted them and they're her favourite.

I also seem to remember some very clumsy flirting with Hollywood on both their parts and some 'they are definitely shagging' on forums like DS, which she shut down a long time after.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 20 November 2023 20:39 (five months ago) link

I can’t decide which of those paragraphs is more “eww”.

steely flan (suzy), Monday, 20 November 2023 21:41 (five months ago) link

She was really the first Big Brother contestant on Bake off, that is she was clearly in it for the fame afterwards rather than the baking. If you remember from the time, Danny from the previous year broke her NDA on a blog explaining what the application process was, which exposed Ruby to have made it all up (about how she knew nothing about it, her friends applied without telling her, she hadn't really even baked while she was at university etc).

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 20 November 2023 22:08 (five months ago) link

But then of course Frances won her year, who was the first decoration over baking contestant. Did an awful lot of stunt cakes with props, not all of which worked - I remember a giant box of matches that might have been bread sticks? Feel like she's had the biggest influence over the show in the past few years.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 20 November 2023 22:19 (five months ago) link

i still make ruby's recipes all the time, baked her pikelets recipe this weekend, my daughter's favourite treat breakfast.

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 09:02 (five months ago) link

wild revelation in the finale that Amos's partner is named Andy

jaymc, Sunday, 3 December 2023 02:05 (four months ago) link

lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 02:20 (four months ago) link

slightly surprised by winner but i think they just wanted an underdog story idk

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 02:25 (four months ago) link

we loved him, really delighted by the ending.

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 December 2023 04:18 (four months ago) link

he’s undeniably lovely so not at all upset obv <3

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 04:52 (four months ago) link

Yeah, I had him pegged as a potential winner from a few weeks ago, so not surprised at all. The other two were so determined that they just shot themselves in the foot by trying too hard whereas he just took his time and did what he's good at and it worked, same as it has all series. Delighted for him.

ailsa, Sunday, 3 December 2023 11:02 (four months ago) link

He was the underdog, but also baked the best in the final. And yes he seemed lovely!

Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Sunday, 3 December 2023 11:04 (four months ago) link

I think Paul had a wee crush on him

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 3 December 2023 11:31 (four months ago) link

i think so too
also i don’t think he liked Josh very much

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 16:13 (four months ago) link

Josh wasn't always great for TV bc he was so mild-mannered, though I found it charming how he lit up whenever one of his bakes was praised.

jaymc, Sunday, 3 December 2023 18:38 (four months ago) link

he was my favorite, his whole thing with honoring his nan was so lovely

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 20:19 (four months ago) link

I was rooting for Tasha for most of the season and for Josh in the finale. Not too mad about Matty winning tho.

jaymc, Sunday, 3 December 2023 20:26 (four months ago) link

Tasha was great too, but god definitely had some captain chaos genes in her at times

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:33 (four months ago) link

Dan’s sad terrible macarons on the final showstopper should be the final signal to all future bakers STOP TRYING TO PUT MACARONS ON YOYR CAKES IT IS STUPID AND UNNECESSARY AND WASTES SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:35 (four months ago) link

I'm still convinced they just aren't giving enough time for the bakes in general, and especially in the finales. I want to see people make the very best cake they can make. Give them all day for all I care!

not the one who's tryin' to dub your anime (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:52 (four months ago) link

yeah they seem to be dicking with the time for added drama.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 21:53 (four months ago) link

They do, it was all in Danny's blog a few years ago. They work out the shortest cooking time any of the contestants need then knock 30-60 minutes off.

I think I'm done with it. The showstoppers in the final were all god-awful and I don't think anybody stood out as good at any point. Talking up how excellent people were seemed to be just that, all talk, and the continued thirst trap of innuendo was just painful.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Sunday, 3 December 2023 22:00 (four months ago) link

it does seem to upset you a bit more lately <3

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 3 December 2023 22:55 (four months ago) link

I have just turned into a grumpy old man.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 4 December 2023 09:46 (four months ago) link

Josh seemed like a sweet but slightly fragile guy. I found the way final was edited ("Josh is gonna win! Ooops - no he's not") pretty gross. It seems to indicate a lack of aftercare for the contestants.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 4 December 2023 10:26 (four months ago) link

"turned into" ;-D

Here's an article entirely agreeing with you

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/03/great-british-bake-off-triumphs-contestant-michael-chakraverty

ailsa, Monday, 4 December 2023 10:53 (four months ago) link

If I ever said that I don't care about the personalities just give me the bakes, the previous season and this season proved me wrong. I was so bored last year that I didn't get around to this season until a few weeks ago and that was just because I got Netflix for another show; but this season had so many lovely contestants. Tasha was my favorite (her comment early on about how she shouldn't sell herself short hit me hard) and the final missed her, but I also adored Nicky and Saku (I melted a little when we saw their road trip). I kept waiting to be disappointed by Matty but his cheer never wavered and won me over, and I actually thought Josh was great, he strikes me as an introvert but over the course of the season you can see him warm up a little.

Also agreed with everyone that I found Dan annoying, and that the deliberate time shenanigans are cheap and artifical sensationalism.

Rimbaud: First Blood (Leee), Monday, 11 December 2023 03:05 (four months ago) link

Also also clearly the Captain Chaos of this season is Rowan.

And what's this Danny blog?

Rimbaud: First Blood (Leee), Monday, 11 December 2023 03:09 (four months ago) link

https://bakingastherapy.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/bake-off-confidential-bittersweet-adventures-in-a-tv-show/

Lays out just how much they have to do during applications.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 11 December 2023 11:38 (four months ago) link

The quote about them reducing time isn't in that so must be in another of the gbbo tagged posts.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Monday, 11 December 2023 11:45 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

New year's Day special tomorrow and then the kid's series starts at 5 on Tuesday, daily for 3 weeks.

koogs, Sunday, 31 December 2023 20:30 (three months ago) link

Oh, hooray, Junior BakeOff is the best.

trishyb, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 22:21 (three months ago) link

Watched it today, we are all fans of Esme's glasses.

This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 22:49 (three months ago) link

Man, that invisible tart technical was a disaster. Such a classy bunch of kids to not lose the rag over it.

trishyb, Thursday, 11 January 2024 19:58 (three months ago) link

yesterday's spoilers, and in fact the opening of today's show, showed one tilly dropping her final showstopper on the floor from a great height. why?

koogs, Friday, 19 January 2024 17:05 (three months ago) link

Not spoiling the final, but it gets directly addressed.

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Friday, 19 January 2024 18:46 (three months ago) link

Liam used the word 'flawless' in his wrap up

i didn't think it was great, too frou-frou, like an old lady cake

koogs, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:01 (three months ago) link

Any talk of actual baking is overshadowed for me by Ilham's excellent attitude to royalty. Now that is a well brought-up young person.

trishyb, Friday, 19 January 2024 19:33 (three months ago) link


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