Does it? For central London at a time when there's less traffic?
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link
It's the efficiency of the public sector!
― the pinefox, Sunday, 4 June 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link
This comment above is so OTM:
--- It's the bloody public sector who responded to the emergency, in their ambulances and police cars!
Had my first real scare last night: friend's bf said he was in Vauxhall when she texted him about the initial news of attacks, then was incommunicado for ages as we frantically reloaded news sites to figure out what was going on there. Thankfully he was just hanging with friends and not paying attention to his mobile.
Had a friend from Porto over as well, went to see Moodyman. East London nightlife going on as usual, really strange feeling of wondering how many ppl didn't know what happened.
Guardian live updates of Theresa May's speech I think paraphrased her as saying islamic extremists needed to be convinced "western values are better", good to see reading the transcript that it wasn't quite that deranged (speech still horrible obv).
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 4 June 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
The police are never talked of as being apart of the public sector - I assume because right wingers approve of them. And prison officers. And the armed forces.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
She kind of did say that.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link
She made a clear distinction between Islamic extremism and Islam as a whole, and suggested "British values" (I know, lol) are compatible with the latter. So standard tory as opposed to full-on Trump as the paraphrase read to me.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 4 June 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link
can someone pls point out to theresa may that she's a public sector worker too
― he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link
If this insipid troll stays on as PM for five years then it will be confirmed: the postwar boomers are the worst generation of English-speaking white people that ever existed.
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
Including the ones that owned and traded slaves? Really?
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
Ok fine nevermind. Progress!
Take it as a misspoken reference to public sphere tbph
― D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I assumed that she'd said the wrong word.
Regardless, it wasn't very dignified, was it?
― djh, Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
The, er, mother and father of Freudian slips then.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
Hmm but then she also says 'society'
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
Hard to top IDS from the other day - "what we're trying to get away with in our manifesto..."
― nashwan, Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
LOOOL saw that!
In other news, C4 News just interviewed Ginger Steve, a spacey homeless guy who used to hang out with the couriers at the pub under Ed's flat, and he is apparently due praise for tending to a wounded young woman hit by the van at London Bridge last night. Good on you, Steve.
― syzygy stardust (suzy), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
it seems easy to build a picture of how may thinks about things, in a way i wasn't with say, cameron or whatever. i think because she represents a certain type of civil servant i've dealt with almost exactly - the fear of the internet and transparency, the desire for small, private, opaque government, and the contempt for the public, the idea that government is something that should go on far away from them. it's quite reprehensible.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
Good post
― Kozelek, Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
i prob mentioned before but when trump got elected an edict came down from on high that anyone in the civil service, literally anyone, should not criticise donald trump on social media, to avoid "besmirching the office of the us president" - people prob would have been annoyed except that it was so ludicrous.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 4 June 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
Theresa got the memo though.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
LOOOL saw that!In other news, C4 News just interviewed Ginger Steve, a spacey homeless guy who used to hang out with the couriers at the pub under Ed's flat, and he is apparently due praise for tending to a wounded young woman hit by the van at London Bridge last night. Good on you, Steve.
I have been to this pub!!!!
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
Yes! Along with most of ILX Britisher old school (and a few lucky Americans). It's called The Clerk and Well now and the couriers have mostly gone (along with the table football, snooker and the occasional glimpse of Boris Johnson on both).
― syzygy stardust (suzy), Sunday, 4 June 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
This made me cry
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=NDJlPG_M600
― Mule, Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link
I don't even know who Ariana is but what a class act.
― Whooremeister (jed_), Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
Our family vacation has turned out to be educational for my kids in ways I didn't anticipate. We were in Manchester for the one-week memorial for the attack, we went down and saw the square full of balloons and flowers. We're in London this week, so when they woke up this morning I had to tell them what happened overnight. They were dismayed and sad, but not scared. I think terrorism to them is just one of those things that happens, like earthquakes and floods.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 4 June 2017 22:49 (six years ago) link
Solely judging on some youtube clips of One Love Manchester: What a woman. What a huge, loving heart.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 5 June 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
I'm impressed. She didn't have to do anything, and if she did, there were a dozen right things she could have done. That she did this one, and also did it right, warms the heart.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 June 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
I confess that a fat tear rolled down my cheek during Over the Rainbow.
― Madchen, Monday, 5 June 2017 05:45 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Ari was fantastic. Also really touching to see Miley helping her through it all like a big sister
― del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 07:05 (six years ago) link
One of the London Bridge terror attackers was carrying an ID card issued in Ireland when he was shot dead, security sources in the Republic have confirmed.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 10:59 (six years ago) link
The Prime Minister has called for barriers to be installed between the pavement and the road on all bridges as a basic safety measure.
Oh wait no she's not done that she's called for a magical regulated Internet to totally prevent maniacs from learning how to drive and stab.
― nashwan, Monday, 5 June 2017 11:42 (six years ago) link
Asim Oddin, 39, who lived near the suspect in Barking said: “He used to park outside the flats which isn’t allowed and blocked everybody. We had an altercation when I told him not to park here. He said “not to follow the system” he was quite rude.”
wake up, sheeple.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:09 (six years ago) link
an inconsiderate road-user and and murderer? not having that, sorry
― he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:11 (six years ago) link
we need to crack down on parking offences.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:19 (six years ago) link
one of the bombers allegedly had an irish id, the irish papers are saying.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link
There's a suggestion he was a Moroccan living in Dublin - as recently as last year.
Ireland seems to have a relatively large Moroccan community iirc, though that might just be anecdotal.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 5 June 2017 12:27 (six years ago) link
i have a friend whose family GP when young was harold shipman: asked how she remembers him she doesn't have much more than "he was rude and dismissive of my concerns, me, an impossibly sulky teen with acne" -- but it's not as if she was in the position to say "i remember corpses stacked three deep in the waiting room, i warned everyone but they ignored me"
so this guy's "he was an arsehole and everyone hated him" is almost bound to end up being about small neighbourly infractions -- if he knew worse (and didn't warn the authorities long ago) he obviously puts himself in a terrible position
― mark s, Monday, 5 June 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link
I don't even know who Ariana is but what a class act.― Whooremeister (jed_), Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Whooremeister (jed_), Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Safe to say, this clears her for the donut incident.
― how's life, Monday, 5 June 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link
If true, speaks volumes
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
Scotland Yard has named two of the attackers as Khuram Shazad Butt and Rachid Redouane, who are both from Barking in east London.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
Khuram Butt, one of the London attackers, appeared in the Channel 4 documentary the Jihadis Next Door last year.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
Fuck me, talk about hiding in plain sight
― del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link
Some serious repercussions to come out of that surely?
― del esdichado (NickB), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
Whoever was Home Secretary at the time might have serious questions to answer... oh, hold on.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
calls for police to get special permission to monitor broadcast communications
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
Sounds like some TVs to watch Channel 4 documentaries on jihadis might be more useful.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
that's the joke
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
Too clever for me and Theresa.
― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
jesus
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 5 June 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link