Did you ever like Donald Trump?

he barely even crossed my mind ever until a year or 2 ago

i was thinking about this bc i've never seen a guy become the most hated man in the world after being a not completely hated, sometimes liked or at least "appreciated", pop culture presence for decades. i'm sure people in the know realized what a piece of shit he was, but it's kind of an interesting phenomenon.

there's an old thread about whether you can ever be happy when a bad person dies, I forgot which exactly. I came very close to posting 'I'll be happy when donald trump dies, fuck that guy' but I decided not to since it seemed pointlessly crass (this was pre-trump in politics.)

always hated him, when I first became aware of him it was as 80s scumbag racist landlord and crook along w similar 80s douchebag icons like Boesky and Milken

he's been an unrepentant shithead on a national scale at least since he ginned up the birtherism bullshit. I imagine New Yorkers and older folks have hated him for a lot longer; most of his earlier controveries (housing discrimination, the Central Park Five, his lurid divorces) were before my time.

I worked at bookstores in 2004 and 2008, and discount copies of "Art of the Deal" were always really popular with wannabe-entrepreneur types. Apart from that I only knew him as an 80s celeb - I was only 12 when Gremlins II came out but I knew the bad guy was supposed to be a Trump-type.

At some point a few years ago (2013?) I noticed people being angry about him on Twitter and was like, "Oh! So he's a disgusting garbage person." And that was that.

no, I'm from New York

I had very little awareness of him before the 00s. I mainly knew him as the Apprentice guy. I'd never heard of the Central Park Five.

idk he's always been a very unlikeable person, I thought that was sort of his appeal. he was the real-world manifestation of the a wrestling heel. maybe you envied what he had and you enjoyed watching him be an asshole on The Apprentice but I never thought anyone actually liked him as a person. at best he was just...kinda pathetic.

i think he played differently in the rural midwest (haha still does :( ) bc i never heard about all of the evil aspects of his life and personality. i knew him from talk shows and commercials and that book and probably references in rap songs.

was good in "Ghosts Can't DO It"

maybe nomar can help out my lonely thread: This is the thread for posting random Trump references in rap songs

i was also a kid during his initial peak era of fame so lots of it probably went over my head and i never cared enough about him to go back and research bc he seemed like a non-entity for awhile, never thought about him again til the apprentice.

Never thought about him too much tbh.

We had Alan Sugar over here.

as a kid in the midwest i remember his name being just shorthand for "rich dude." i never watched any of his shows or paid much attention to him. i didn't spend much time thinking about this asshole until the birther garbage really

sorry shakey i was going to post Johnny Ryall but you got there first :/

i mean even in 2015 to early 2016 i just thought "this guy is a huge asshole but i love that he is around to fuck up the GOP race"

i can't honestly answer that question. when i was a kid in new jersey we had a copy of "trump, the game", which was monopoly but even shittier and with some extra zeros on the fake money. which is impressive because monopoly is an extremely shitty game. it had a lot of plastic bits shaped like "T"s in it, which i used to pretend stood for mr. t.

I think my general impression since he first entered my awareness in the mid-'80s was 'wtf is this doofus even famous for?' Then he started in on the birther shit and my opinion of him was upgraded from 'useless' to 'worthless'. Since announcing his run for presidency, my opinion was slowly cranked all the way to 'run him through a wood chipper and salt any earth tainted by his pulped remains'.

fair

Always thought he was a clownish dickhead - my awareness of him mostly came from Spy magazine. When he became a pro wrestler, my impression was fully solidified. Now that he's actively destroying the country, though, I am actively wishing for his death every time I see him or see his name mentioned.

I hope that, in tribute, his funeral will draw the biggest, most excited crowd yet. The hugest celebration. It would mean a lot. Very touching.

i had a vague awareness of his existence from the early 90s, when i was a child, onwards. the first time i ever saw him much was watching an episode of the apprentice circa 2004. i thought, wow what an insufferable dickhead.

when i was a kid in new jersey we had a copy of "trump, the game",

yes!

In my childhood he was omnipresent in a vague sort of way: rich, vulgar plutocrat with big-haired miserable women beside him. I remember a ref to him in Crimes and Misdemeanors.

The Apprentice logo with the dashing-looking profile of Donald Trump in contrast with what the dude actually looked like kinda confirmed for me that he had some kind of complex

as a kid in the midwest i remember his name being just shorthand for "rich dude." i never watched any of his shows or paid much attention to him. i didn't spend much time thinking about this asshole until the birther garbage really

same here. i missed all the apprentice stuff because i didn't watch much television during the 2000s, although i knew that he said "you're fired" and that people liked that, apparently. then suddenly it seemed like he was in the news all the time talking about birth certificates and i thought christ what an asshole

I first learned about him from Bloom County I think. Even as an 11-year-old I could identify him as a boneheaded mega-rich brat who used garish gilded architecture and beautiful women to prop up his huge ego.

Then there was The Apprentice which I never watched but I thought the world of vapid and morally bankrupt reality TV game shows was probably the perfect fit for him

Then there was the racist right-wing conspiracy theory birther shit which pushed him firmly into "this guy is an utter piece of shit" territory for me (I didn't know about the racist stuff in his past until this past election cycle)

I liked when he was machine gunning the rest of the nominees at the first GOP debate though. I would watch that again now even knowing the apocalypse that would ensue.

If he had just stayed in showbiz I'd probably just think of him as racist bizarro Regis Philbin

did any of you get introduced to him by Doonesbury?

hmm maybe, altho Bloom County might also have been responsible

I first learned about him from Bloom County

I'm guessing Fresh Prince was my introduction. I would have seen him in Home Alone 2 also, but probably not registered who he was.

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I might have been, I read a bunch of those collections in the late 90's/early 2000's when Trump was out of the spotlight. Thought it was odd that Trump was the one public figure that he didn't depict symbolically.

Uh xpx5 to morbs

As a non-American, I definitely had my main early awareness of him from Bloom County.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I

I can't imagine anyone in this world liking this guy. His wife doesn't, I am pretty sure he doesn't even like himself.

i THINK HE does nto like himself but he has drank som epotion that makes him feel good about himself anyway prb from some harry potter class

He seemed fairly affable when I first saw him on Letterman around 1984 or 85, back when I only vaguely knew his name and that he was some NY real-estate billionaire. Then I spent years growing ever more annoyed by his omnipresence while trying to ignore him, but didn't start to seriously despise him until 2011. Much of the horrible stuff he's done (housing discrimination/Central Park 5), I wasn't aware of pre-2015.

Weirdly, though, I had a dream back in mid-October in which he gave me and a co-worker a ride home from work; and I had no strong feelings pro-or-con about him, since in the dream he was just "famous businessman Donald Trump" instead of "loathsome soon-to-be-unsuccessful Presidential candidate"

have always been deeply repulsed by donald trump since i first became aware of him at some point in the '80s

my impression of him was always as a joke version of a rich guy except he was real for some reason. as a famous figure, he seemed like a real "only in NYC" kind of guy.

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

which is to say not a threat to our existence generally speaking
at the time it seemed like the real enemies were in the white house ;_;

also lol @ that facial expression

I knew of him as an ott tacky rich a-hole, but when the Apprentice came on I was almost mesmerized by his laziness and inanity. It was like they'd built a show around a black hole of charisma. I guess he got more animated over time.

félix guattari in 1989:

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do even Trump's own supporters actually "like" him? (rather than liking the fact that he pisses off liberals/liking how he acts as an avatar for their various resentments and fears etc?) do Trump voters think that he'd be a fun guy to hang out with, or have over for dinner or whatever?

like, the "People look at you and they see who they want to be. They look at me and they see what they are" bit from Oliver Stone's Nixon- does anyone look at Trump and think "I wish I was that guy"?

I was around for his initial run up the charts in the 80s. I never gave him much thought - crooked, vain property developers are everywhere - and somewhere around Letterman appearance 3 or 4 I'd had enough. If anything, Gremlins 2 wasn't harsh enough.

OTOH, in 2004 I was a 39 year old office IT worker and seeing bankers, mangers, VCs, brokers, MBAs, and marketers claw, stab, and eat shit on camera all for the privilege of being gunned down by Trump made for compelling television. I could never connect with Survivor, but those first couple of seasons were some target marketing.

Weird reading this thread now: The Apprentice: schadenfreude rears its beautiful head

I spent a lot of summers in the 80s adjacent to Atlantic City and always hated casinos and cheered for Vera Coking. There were stories of DT randomly giving ludicrous tips but my dad always said they were bullshit.

I had heard his name before and knew he was powerful but never actually saw the guy until the Scottish golf course thing, and I found him repulsive instantly.

Makes no sense that the news didn't go crazy with the Molly Forbes story. Why wouldn't anyone in Scotland be able to fix her water supply?

He was not powerful. He just liked to brag about being rich.

ime he was just another new york asshole, and someone everyone hated like the mets and yankees and knicks and giants. but her emails I guess.

Also even though he isn't names in it, this quote from Snow Crash has always summed him up nicely:

he slams the button for LAVATORY GRANDE ROYALE.
Never been here before. It's like something on the top floor of a luxury high-rise casino in Atlantic City, where they put semi-retarded adults from South Philly after they've blundered into the mega-jackpot. It's got everything that a dimwitted pathological gambler would identify with luxury: gold-plated fixtures, lots of injection-molded pseudomarble, velvet drapes, and a butler.

i still have not formed an opinion of donald trump

U need more evidence imo

you never know!

Of course don weiner was a Donald Trump fan.

Xps

that look https://news.vice.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/RTX37RET-1024x683.jpg

five minutes into g7 and chill and she gives u this look

does anyone look at Trump and think "I wish I was that guy"?

definitely. this guy is kinda the ultimate manifestation of most idiots' "what I would do if I won the lottery" fantasies, isn't he? "I'd buy my own jet, live in a gold tower with my name on it, sleep with a bunch of models, and be an insufferable dick to everyone"

"In the video from 2005, Trump admits to hitting on a married woman and boasts that he can wantonly kiss women and grope their genitals because he is a "star.""

the puig's dream?

Puig (Catalan pronunciation: [putʃ]; Spanish pronunciation: [pwiɣ]) is a name of Catalan origin, meaning "hill" or "mountain."[1] Hence, in Catalan-speaking areas, it appears in the names of numerous people and geographical features

ya hit the nail on the head - bullseye

also - https://www.puig.com/en/

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8!

Who are these scoundrels!

i think they're just people trolling. i'm surprised there are this many active ilxors in general.

i'm bad at estimating though

there could be alt right lurkers i guess

BANNON

KUSHNER

we should blame all bad poll results on the alt-right lurkers

If any WH garbage person was going to lurk on ILX it would be Bannon.

Washington Post wants to talk to the three ppl who used to like Trump but no longer do

I could imagine people liking Trump back when he'd hang with The Clintons.

See that's reason number two why he should never have been considered for Pres. It's one thing if he had 'fallen out' with them for some specific reason, but the phrase "would sell his granny" seems to apply.

If any WH garbage person was going to lurk on ILX it would be Bannon.

for some reason i feel like stephen miller is more likely but i can't quite articulate why

I'm a joker
I'm a smoker
I'm a midnight toker
I sure don't want to- ah wait

stephen miller, the white house's pompatus of love

We'll only know when Trump gives a speech about the threat of radical poptimism

Or when he changes his name to Ornaldo Bloomps.

Donlado Troomps

for some reason i feel like stephen miller is more likely but i can't quite articulate why

Bannon more likely to create a login and shitpost in a stupor and accidentally almost reveal himself? Miller seems like a disciplined lurker

Bannon is the Goering, Miller is the Goebbels

Bannon is the father getting hammered in his den while listening to march music at top volume, Miller is the son in the bedroom quietly murdering his best friend.

like i said

Which one is more likely to be a shill for The Arcana?

shrill prosperity, trickling down, into posterity

Lol nomar otm

I liked him during the Republican primary debates.

“This administration is offering cakes to the fortunate few,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), Ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee.

Still like him