Did you ever like Donald Trump?

^Eek, sorry about the double post

The Art of the Feel Up

When we were preparing to move around late '91/early '92, my grandparents and my my grandmother's brother and sister-in-law stayed at our house for about two weeks to help us get everything together. My great-aunt was a generally miserable woman who was super paranoid (there was an incident of her freaking out one morning when the mailman showed up), obsessed with death and refused to sleep in the same bed as her husband on account of his snoring. The only time that she ever cracked a smile during the entire duration of their visit is when she was hearing news about Donald Trump's divorce and marriage to Marla Maples on Entertainment Tonight or whatever. That was my first association with Donald Trump and remained, for many years, my go-to whenever I heard his name mentioned.

So, no.

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A little surprised by all the people who knew him from Bloom County but not Doonesbury. Anyway, no, he never seemed likeable, even in the 80s. frogbs otm.

no one ever took him seriously

ever

not to get all trenchant but srsly he represents the end of certain things here, and perhaps elsewhere unfortunately

I don't remember in what context I first encountered Trump but I was an adolescent and my reaction was immediate hatred. Had the same feelings towards Gene Simmons. Gross, tacky, arrogant, unapologetically selfish businessman just read as VILLAIN instinctually.

I used to watch the early seasons of the Apprentice, but it was clear even watching that show that the guy had no idea how to be a businessman - his decisions were poorly explained and sometimes nonsensical. That was part of the fun for me, tbh. The moment I realized that our country may soon be run the same way, I was terrified. I regret that I in any way ever supported this dude

I used to watch the early seasons of the Apprentice, but it was clear even watching that show that the guy had no idea how to be a businessman - his decisions were poorly explained and sometimes nonsensical.

this was with copious amounts of vv generous reality show editing too

he barely even crossed my mind ever until a year or 2 ago

― ciderpress

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What little I knew of him I disliked immensely - I saw him as a tacky, tasteless nouveaux-riche cunt who put gold and marble everywhere and married bighaired big titted models.

With his mouth sewn shut, he still shakes his butt
'cause he's Hitler & Swayze & Trump & Travolta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5s0KrFkmo

Up to The Apprentice, I neither liked nor disliked.

With the App, the AlSug version, his role was to point out the 'bleedin obvious' and occasionally say something that made sense. With the Trump version, well we only got the celeb version, he just seemed to 'support' whichever team members he liked, and beyond that didn't come over as likesble or charming. But then, that's not what the show is about, nut even the AlSug version has him occasionally cracking a joke or lightening the mood.

I'm more of a dan bilzerian fan tbh but the apprentice was good back in the day

I don't think I was conscious of him before he was groundlessly attacking Obama. He just seemed to be a buffoon. What's to like?

The thing that really creeps me out is - I get a chill down my spine just thinking about it - I have had this almost physical dislike of this person since the first time I ever heard him speak. I don't know how anyone could look at this guy and hear this guy and think, that's a leader. If like me you are privileged enough not to be in the crosshairs of this administration I think you need to try and grok the mindset of a Trump voter but...I just fucking can't, I can't, he's awful and he has always been awful and I don't understand, at an instinctual, split-second response level, how you could feel otherwise.

Circa1916 is OTMFM - 10 years ago, about, I thought to myself, there are two people in the world who I just want to be blasted into space so that we don't have to fucking deal with them anymore, don't ever have to think about them again, and those people are Gene Simmons and Donald Trump.

First encountered him here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMJ3ftUtnw&t=46s incongruously helping with the Rumbelows Cup quarter final draw on UK football show Saint and Greavsie. Can't say I gave him much thought, other than thinking that the S&G's fawning on such an obvious rich vulgar asshole reflected poorly on the wisecracking double act.

A little surprised by all the people who knew him from Bloom County but not Doonesbury. Anyway, no, he never seemed likeable, even in the 80s. frogbs otm.

― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bloom County was about a bunch of cuddly cartoon animals and Doonesbury centered on an advertising agent with a rocky marriage.

Bloom County also sadder, funnier & way better art, over time

If by 'like' you mean 'did not, at some point in the past, actively and passionately wish death or disfigurement or human centipedism on', then the answer to the question itt is yes.

If someone had said, twelve years ago, "DTrump will be pres one day", I'd have said "Oh, OK" and shrugged slightly.

After his years of denying Obama's birth certif, I'd have thought that one piece of dumbness would have proved him unfit for Presidency.

That is a good point Mark G!

I guess I was vaguely aware of him as far back as the early 90s. I think if I had to describe him back then based on what I knew it would have been something like "some rich guy who owns hotels and declared bankruptcy a couple of times". I was kind of surprised that Donald Trump was still a thing when "The Apprentice" appeared to have some achieved some level of popularity (I never watched it). Next I heard of him was the whole birth certificate thing, which seemed like some kind of desperate attempt to appear relevant. Was kind of surprised when Romney sought Trump's endorsement during the 2012 primary, thinking that associating with this guy probably has more negatives than positives. Now he's the president.

I watched season 1 of the apprentice as a kid. Was mostly struck by his hair. I think I assumed he was a more of less in on the joke celebrity grotesque. Evil Regis Philbin.

Also, someone probably posted this before but stikm

Mike Hanle y wrote this on thread Nuclear Weapons Top Trumps on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2001

DOnald Trump has nuclear weapons!?
Tadeusz Suchodolski wrote this on thread Nuclear Weapons Top Trumps on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2001

DOnald Trump has nuclear weapons!?
That's almost as scar y as letting Hanle y have nuclear weapons!

heh

interesting that this is coming from marketwatch who do not seem liberally biased

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-time-to-plan-an-escape-route-for-you-and-your-money-from-trumpland-2017-05-26

I'm old enough to remember Trump's late-80s emergence as an avatar of crassly domineering greed and, politics aside, I've always found the Donald personally, viscerally revolting. He'd have placed high on my "Worst Americans" ballot long before he started pushing the birther bullshit.

I wonder how many people have had a mad on for him since he pretty much single-handedly destroyed an entire football league.

Man, if only we could shake our addiction to glorifying garbage people in this country. Man.

you know, as a dickhead reality tv star he was fine but as Pres he is trouble

I don't know. He seems fine so far.

Fine for a fuckface

so that we don't have to fucking deal with them anymore, don't ever have to think about them again, and those people are Gene Simmons and Donald Trump.

yeah all during the campaign I was just thinking "god I can't WAIT for this election to be over so I don't have to see/hear/think about this horrible person anymore". And now I'll be hearing about for a good chunk of the rest of my life, ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I don't have a strong impression of him from living in NYC during the 80s other than people didn't take him that seriously. He got shit for tearing down the historic Bonwit Teller building but NYC was pretty desperate for real estate development and he benefited "bigly" from tax abatements and his pop's connections. I didn't pay much attention tbh, though I remember the tabloids referred to him as "Donnie" which was condescending and funny. When Spy magazine started ridiculing him later in the decade he just seemed like another of their easy targets; there were so many other pseudo-celebrities worthy of contempt in those days, spending any time thinking about Donald Trump seemed like a waste. So I didn't like or especially dislike him, he was just another rich asshole to ignore.

But to somebody who lived in New York while he was making his name, Trump as president is fucking surreal, it's like Bernie Goetz, Leona Helmsley or the Crazy Eddie voiceover guy got elected!

do even Trump's own supporters actually "like" him? (rather than liking the fact that he pisses off liberals/liking how he acts as an avatar for their various resentments and fears etc?) do Trump voters think that he'd be a fun guy to hang out with, or have over for dinner or whatever?

like, the "People look at you and they see who they want to be. They look at me and they see what they are" bit from Oliver Stone's Nixon- does anyone look at Trump and think "I wish I was that guy"?

I was around for his initial run up the charts in the 80s. I never gave him much thought - crooked, vain property developers are everywhere - and somewhere around Letterman appearance 3 or 4 I'd had enough. If anything, Gremlins 2 wasn't harsh enough.

OTOH, in 2004 I was a 39 year old office IT worker and seeing bankers, mangers, VCs, brokers, MBAs, and marketers claw, stab, and eat shit on camera all for the privilege of being gunned down by Trump made for compelling television. I could never connect with Survivor, but those first couple of seasons were some target marketing.

Weird reading this thread now: The Apprentice: schadenfreude rears its beautiful head

I spent a lot of summers in the 80s adjacent to Atlantic City and always hated casinos and cheered for Vera Coking. There were stories of DT randomly giving ludicrous tips but my dad always said they were bullshit.

I had heard his name before and knew he was powerful but never actually saw the guy until the Scottish golf course thing, and I found him repulsive instantly.

Makes no sense that the news didn't go crazy with the Molly Forbes story. Why wouldn't anyone in Scotland be able to fix her water supply?

He was not powerful. He just liked to brag about being rich.

ime he was just another new york asshole, and someone everyone hated like the mets and yankees and knicks and giants. but her emails I guess.

Also even though he isn't names in it, this quote from Snow Crash has always summed him up nicely:

he slams the button for LAVATORY GRANDE ROYALE.
Never been here before. It's like something on the top floor of a luxury high-rise casino in Atlantic City, where they put semi-retarded adults from South Philly after they've blundered into the mega-jackpot. It's got everything that a dimwitted pathological gambler would identify with luxury: gold-plated fixtures, lots of injection-molded pseudomarble, velvet drapes, and a butler.

i still have not formed an opinion of donald trump

U need more evidence imo

you never know!

Of course don weiner was a Donald Trump fan.

Xps

that look https://news.vice.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/RTX37RET-1024x683.jpg

five minutes into g7 and chill and she gives u this look