Why do so many Americans go to church?

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According to Matthew Engel's factbook today, weekly church attendance in the USA runs at 40%. It's just 2% in the UK. What explains this huge difference?

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 28 October 2002 10:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because they believe in God? I dunno...?

Pete (Pete), Monday, 28 October 2002 11:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because their parents did.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Monday, 28 October 2002 11:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I believe most Americans wouldn't bother with church if they couldn't go to a brunch place afterward.

suzy (suzy), Monday, 28 October 2002 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

I haven't been to church since my grandmother's funeral 4 years ago. And before that, I hadn't been for 6 years (except as a tourist, but that doesn't count).

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 28 October 2002 11:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

I went to church yesterady to be a godfather to my neice. I'm glad hypocrisy doesn't turn your hair green.

Pete (Pete), Monday, 28 October 2002 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe the church still has some impact in terms of the social life of small towns? (Which I believe there are alot more of in the USA than over here)

jel -- (jel), Monday, 28 October 2002 12:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe because America doesn't have the deep roots and history that Britain and most of Europe has. So the church provides a kind of identity that would otherwise be lacking... possibly.

Enid Roach (Enid Roach), Monday, 28 October 2002 12:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe they're FUCKING MORONS.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 28 October 2002 12:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe they dont have the Royal Family and the thought of Prince Charles as the future head of your Church.

Kiwi, Monday, 28 October 2002 13:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

I get paid to go to church.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 October 2002 13:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because the church supplies them with THEIR CRACK.

Steve.n., Monday, 28 October 2002 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cause they aren't CoE which nearly encourages people not to go to church.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 28 October 2002 14:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

the church in america is sort of woven into the social fabric...it shapes social and political experiences and beliefs, in the south most notably. for a lot of american ancestors, religion was the reason they fled their home countries, so it's logical that it would continue to be important in their new country of america. different churches can have a huge impact on how people live their lives and what they believe (most annoying example-southern baptist convention eugh). religion is a pretty big part of one's identity, what sect of the protestant church you attend corresponds with your major beliefs. growing up, my parents brought me to a fairly liberal church but i haven't attended since starting university. i still feel like a prude compared to many britons/europeans i have met thus far. damn puritans.

mary b. (mary b.), Monday, 28 October 2002 14:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Church attendance in Ulster and parts of Scotland is probably closer to the American figure. Non-conformist Protestant faiths usually have a different character than the CofE to which most English claim some nominal relationship. Plus if you're brought up attending a Church it oftens feel like the community to which you belong, an extension of your family, something you identify with even if you don't take the religion terribly seriously. It can have an important social function.

(The Pilgrim Fathers, escaping English persecution, first relocated to Leiden, The Netherlands, where i live. Alas they found Holland far too liberal - eg prostitutes touting for trade outside the local church - and thus eventually left for the New World.)

stevo (stevo), Monday, 28 October 2002 14:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

i go to church because i have friends there, also it gives me an hour break.

anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 28 October 2002 15:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr Noodles: comedian Jeremy Hardy has a line about the Church of England - "Why not become an atheist, go the extra inch?"

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 28 October 2002 20:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

It seems that most of the churches I've been to are filled with old widows and young families. Lots of non-churchgoers change their ways when the kids come along. They want to be a part of that whole 'family values' scene.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 October 2002 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's pretty much the only place people of all different generations mix and are really nice to each other, especially when in the suburbs neighbors move in and out constantly. Also I find the music and sermons comforting in some churches (the only churches I don't like are the ones that have bad hymns).

Maria (Maria), Monday, 28 October 2002 20:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

If we keep going to church God will keep making our country more powerful and important than yours.

Hank Perkins, Monday, 28 October 2002 20:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Petty bastard, that god of yours.

RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 28 October 2002 21:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Because they LIE to the census!!

Dan I., Monday, 28 October 2002 21:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wait, you don't have to?!?!?

The biggest pitfall regarding America being so relijus is that Christian-owned Chik-Fil-A is closed on Sunday, and every time I think to myself that I'd like some Chik-Fil-A, it's Sunday.

Aaron A., Monday, 28 October 2002 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

no waffle fries on sunday is certainly a tragedy

mary b. (mary b.), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 09:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

This threatens the whole apres-church scene of eating your favourite version of Heart Attack On A Plate. I think Perkins' etc. would go out of business without churchgoing fat families' Sunday business.

suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 10:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah but Suzy - its never stopped us eating heart-attack-on-a-plate over here after drinking sclerosis-of-the-liver the night before whilst dancing to deafness-by-thirty in club high on premature-senile-dementia-in-tablet-form (wearing catch-the-death-of-cold-clothing before paying forty quid for a ride in a non-english-speaking-rape-mobile).

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 11:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

"It's pretty much the only place people of all different generations mix and are really nice to each other"

Unlike, say, an interweb message board. Ummm.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 11:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

my impression is that being religious and going to Church/Synagogue/Sylvan Grove is one of the ways Americans create an identity for themselves. Those of us in old countries have no need of such things.

also, I think European countries tend to be more religiously homogenous, so if you get pissed off with your church you just stop being religious rather than switching to another.

DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 13:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Same goes for some new countries. Bugger-all people go to church here. I can safely say that I know no one who is a regular church goer. Or even a rare church goer. One of my great aunts used to go to church about 15 years ago. She calls the rest of us heathens, but in a nice way.

- Oh, except there's a guy at uni who is a bit suss, like he sends his kids to some freaky, small, religious school and he has rather a lot of kids so he might be a church goer.

I love hymns so I thought about going to church so I could sing hymns but I never get around to it - also, the religious people might talk to me and I wouldn't like that.

toraneko (toraneko), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

American churchgoers aren't all fat white Protestants in small towns. Close to a quarter of the US population is Catholic, and over 10% (maybe 15% if illegal immigrants are counted) are Hispanic. Hispanic Catholics tend to be relatively avid churchgoers. And blacks (close to 15%) tend to go to church regularly at a higher rate than whites.

I'd say the reasons given above-- small town social structure, and in that the brunch thing seems accurate to me) hold pretty well for white evangelicals, but it's easy, based on popular culture, to exaggerate the status of white protestantism as part of the US religious scene.

Benjamin, Tuesday, 29 October 2002 14:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another factor has got to be immigration -- find a church with a congregation of similar ethnic origin, and you've got a ready-made support system.

j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 14:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

That was sort of directed to the points about small towns. I'd also tend to argue against the sense of history-- Latino Catholics attend churches at a high rate, and I wouldn't argue that they need the weight of a church to solidify their sense of identity.

Surely there are different reasons for the active churchgoing of these different groups that doesn't necessarily have to do with the USA per se. I lived in a small town in the south as a kid, and there was social pressure to attend church, be involved in youth groups, etc., and then, especially in evangelical churches, there's pressure on adherents to conform actively to the precepts of the church (being saved, testifying, and so on).

Many urban churches, or Catholic parishes in poorer neighborhoods, provide social services unavailable elsewhere. I guess part of this fits under the rubric of social structure, but in cities, things like inexpensive childcare are evidently much easier through churches.

(j.lu's post popped up, making the point about immigration, and I know that Catholic churches in New York provide a lot of services for immigrant parishioners)

Benjamin, Tuesday, 29 October 2002 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

And don't forget the extent to which the civil rights movement was religiously based (not to mention, going back 150 years, the abolitionist movement as well). It's not church exactly, but most organizations of nuns (I don't think they use the word convent anymore) are strongly feminist and very involved in social work.

ch. (synkro), Tuesday, 29 October 2002 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link


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