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I went to 'Sans Soleil' on Friday. Notwithstanding the fact that cinema 2 at the ICA has the tiniest screen in London, and there was a big galoot in front of me obscuring half the subtitles, I found it an absolutely astonishing experience. When I got home, I reread Thomson's entry on Marker in ABDoF and discovered that it was made in 1984 - which made the experience even more astonishing, because it seemed such a profoundly modern film. Not so much in the way it looked (although the look was spectacular, too), but in its sensibility - like some gorgeous hybrid of Roland Barthes, Patrick Keiller and Steve Erickson. I think we're still catching up with things Marker was thinking about decades ago.

Anyway, now I'm kicking myself for not being more diligent and going along to the weekend of Marker films they had at the ICA last week. But it looks like I can get them on video or DVD - so which ones in particular should I look for (I'll take 'La Jetée' as a given)?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 25 November 2002 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha 20 mins = they still cost £20!!

bob zemko (bob), Monday, 25 November 2002 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

>>> The Last Bolshevik

mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

I see from 'The Bumper Book of Going to the Pictures' that he co-produced Patricio Guzman's 'The Battle of Chile', so can I vote for that? It also says here that he is 'an elusive man who [...] mischieviously invents mysterious origins for himself', so quite why Jerry the Nipper should feel any kind of affiliation with him is beyond me.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

You wouldn't have got into the short films last week anyhoo - I tried and failed it was sold out by the bucketloads.

Question asked by Time Out this week is why are they showing the French language version of San Soleil when there is an official English one out there (not as if there is a dubbing problem).

Pete (Pete), Monday, 25 November 2002 14:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like Sans Soleil the best... 1982 I think it was released, I saw it 1991. Interesting because it was on late night TV in Tokyo last week in fact. Nice to see a little revivalism... Let's hope it follows me back to the States.

The Soundtrack... pure analog goodness: Tomita's take on Mussogorsky(sp)'s Pictures At An Exhibition/Onhe Sonne, Sibelius' Valeste Triste, really NASA sounding... stunning.

gygax!, Monday, 25 November 2002 15:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you can find Level 5, it's quite good. It's from 1995, I believe.

^Diego^ (dhadis), Monday, 25 November 2002 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

three months pass...
His films are very hard to see. One of my favorites is Description of a Struggle, made in Israel in 1960 or so. I posted a long description of La fond de l'air est rouge to another board but I can't find it right now.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

This page seems like a pretty good resource.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 22:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
okay brand new 35mm prints of "Sans Soleil" and "La Jetee" are making the circuit (castro theatre SF 11/21-27). i'm very very excited for this. remind me to watch vertigo again next week.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

g! - I would definitely be up for this.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:27 (twenty years ago) link

Never seen "Sans Soleil".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:28 (twenty years ago) link

gygax is this nationwide?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

SEE IT IMMEDIATELY!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

both are on DVD in uk now (so on amazon presumably). i gotta say i was disappointed by 'sans soleil' -- but again the subtitles were a prob in the crowded cinema (and no, this doesn't usually afflict me). i wish i'd seen 'grin without a cat' -- it was on at the ica a year ago next monday and i was too ill to travel 120 miles, and i've regretted it ever since.

enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

if hard pressed, i might say it is my favorite film of all time.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

Le Fond de l'air est rouge is one of my favorite films. So is La Jetee.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

(OK MARK!)

You don't need to be hard pressed, you've said it a few times on here..

(and the others were "Experiment In Terror" and "Superstar", obv.)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:32 (twenty years ago) link

COUGH

gygax is this nationwide?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:33 (twenty years ago) link

*presses gygax! hard, citing comic necessity as justification*

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

@d@m, mike mayer and wolfy voigt could promise to come to my house spin special sets while they and their lovers pleasured me and i would still take a raincheck and head to the castro.

jess, i'm not sure where you are but it was at nga earlier this month... :(

mark s, ooh harder!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

i am in filthydelphia. i will call the local "art" theater today and see what's what.

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

mike mayer and wolfy voigt could promise to come to my house spin special sets while they and their lovers pleasured me and i would still take a raincheck and head to the castro.

Tough call, though.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe not. I dunno.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

Overrated.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link

Uh oh.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

I was really looking forward to seeing "San Soleil" at AFF, having heard so many good things about it. But, I thought it was a trawl, and condescending to Japanese culture to boot. No, not condescending, maybe overzealous? He looks at a flower and see the infinity and the reslilience of the Japanese people? I also thought it was kind of a bore. I haven't seen anything else since that major turn off though.

Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

check yr respective flavorpills people!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

argh. why won't my corporate shill tag show up?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

whuh?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:23 (twenty years ago) link

flavorpill.net (my new job) has been listing the marker events in nyc, la, sf and london. just being lame.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

Congrats on the job, yanc3y!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:28 (twenty years ago) link

i think the two films are being distributed by new yorker. they came to the film forum a while ago yes?

"sans soleil" is indeed miraculous. "la fond..." is extremely interesting and worthwhile but more esoteric perhaps, it presumes a knowledge of and interest in european and worldwide left-wing movements of the 60s and 70s.

would that more of marker's vast ouevre be screened more often. i'm particularly fond of "letter from siberia" and "description of a struggle" (the latter about israel). oh wait i mentioned that upthread.

anyone else have "immemory," his handmade cd-rom? i was first a bit disappointed by it, expecting a labyrinth along the lines of contemporary video games. once i got used to its limits i found it extremely charming and diverting, but not really much more than that.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

I am anxious to see it again bearing Mary's comments in mind, but my fascination with Sans Soleil is in the narrative, the flow, the flashbacks, it is a documentary unlike any documentary... so richly personal and engaging.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:09 (twenty years ago) link

i sound like a corny dork there, but what can i say.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

cool, yanc3y, I love flavorpill! Why is flavorpill london not spelled with a "u"? Also, this wasn't listed in the SF one which just arrived.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:14 (twenty years ago) link

i'll have to look at it again with mary's comments in mind.

i'm reminded of my experience with renoir's "the river," which bazin among others praised for its richness and humanity, traits i observed as well, alongside some very dated colonialist nostalgia and orientalist "eternal india" nonsense.

but what i think mary observed is just, in part at least, marker's mode.... he takes much the same approach to observation other places--siberia, israel, korea, even france--and it would perhaps get precious save for his self-deprecating sense of humor (he has an extraordinary sense of humor) and the fact that most of the observations are posed as questions, or as ruminations.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

as for it being a "trawl" i couldn't agree less, i find it captivating, but to each her own taste.

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

the last bolshevik is good also (the only thing i have on tape for some reason)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:54 (twenty years ago) link

what's a flavorpill?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

(that was a joke, please don't answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

mark s! come with me to the cinema!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

anyone else have "immemory," his handmade cd-rom? I have 'Immemory' and I think it's fantastic! I think there's a literary quality to it that makes less exhaustible than most other CD-ROMs I've played around with; it's the kind of thing Barthes or Calvino might have been doing if they had still been around. I especially like the photographic travelogue sections. I could do without the cartoon cat, Guillame of Egypt, however.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

haha marker has a very ilxor attitude to cats

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

http://cs.art.rmit.edu.au/projects/media/marker/Sunless9.jpeg

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:51 (twenty years ago) link

la jetwée

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

"Real cats" is one of the most lovely stills in la Jetée. Of all the films I haven't yet seen, Sans soleil is probably the most surprising.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:26 (twenty years ago) link

the last bolshevik is good also (the only thing i have on tape for some reason)

god mark, i dunno, itv1 show 'loin de vietnam' on loop and still you persist in ignoring them...

enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 09:09 (twenty years ago) link

i am now but one measly degree of separation from chris marker

interested parties may contact me via email

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 27 November 2003 17:21 (twenty years ago) link

Comments by William Gibson and others:
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/apr/15/thrilling-prophetic-chris-marker-experimental-films

one way street, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 22:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah I'm gonna go to this although I prob won't make any screenings which :-(((((((( but this should be cool, love this dude

forum enthusiast (wins), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 23:48 (ten years ago) link

damn, have no idea where the whitechapel gallery is but wish i was near there!

socki (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 April 2014 03:22 (ten years ago) link

london. *dreams*

mattresslessness, Thursday, 17 April 2014 03:49 (ten years ago) link

Love Whitechapel. Haven't been in ages, work near it for the next couple of months so great excuse to go more regularly.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 April 2014 07:32 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

Brooklyn retro in August

http://www.bam.org/film/2014/chris-marker

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

Region 2 release:

http://chrismarker.org/2014/06/chris-marker-collection-english-released/

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link

Oh, I just bought that - didn't realise it was new. Watched the first disc, which was very good.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link

I've just watched first episode of The Owl's Legacy. holy shit it really is just some interesting and/or super-knowledgeable people (Vernant - Castoriadis - Xenakis why not) talking about the legacy of ancient Greece for 6.5 hours, this is the best thing ever, thank you Chris Marker.

i have this but without subtitles and my french isn't quiiiiiiite good enough :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 14:59 (nine years ago) link

I watched it on dailymotion or something w/ subs iirc – that version seems to be on youtube now

woof, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link

will look, thanks

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link

Saw the Whitechapel exhibit - There were 5-6 rooms when really you only needed 2-3. Marker made bits of video art but it was hard to get a handle on how out there this stuff was for the time.

Attended a couple of screenings: Sunday in Peking looks gorgeous. I have almost all of these in shagged out copies from a few years ago, when Marker was alive and wouldn't authorise release. Its interesting as to why he thought the early stuff wasn't much cop. I mean he is alert: writing great narration (all with blink-and-you-miss subtle criticism), displays a great eye for colour and its depths (the market in Peking). Really was this stuff worse than some of the late works? I did watch one and the soundtrack was crappy electronica, the narrator's voice was off...

A biography of him would be amazing. Give the criticism (as evidenced by the exhibit) is lacking I bet a Coca-Cola it'll be terrible.

Someone should translate his novel tho'.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 22 July 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

his Level Five (1996) opens in NY/LA today

http://www.fandor.com/keyframe/daily-chris-marker-bam

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 August 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

I know a number of Marker stans who can't stand that one. But of course, I'll watch anything he's done, so.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link

i've seen the CM 'biggies,' anything i should target in the Brooklyn retro that you might've seen?

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:20 (nine years ago) link

You've probably seen what I've seen ... everything that's been released on DVD + La Joli Mai, basically.

You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Friday, 15 August 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link

Level Five isn't great - and it's not helped by lots of ancient computer graphics. It has some great parts to it, though, and it's certainly not without something to say. There's just something about how fragmented it is that doesn't work.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Friday, 15 August 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link

Saw digitally restored Letter from Siberia, which is typically light (animation, playful voiceover) but not frivolous. Also a (faded to pink) print of the 20-min Sunday in Peking, prob the most filmic images of '50s Chinese life I've seen.

(some old codger exiting was grumping about "propaganda," not sure which film he meant)

full house for this, tho it was a room of about 150 seats probably.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 14:47 (nine years ago) link

They're really lovely films, but very light. I'm not sure how much he associated them with his later work, a bit workmanlike. But charming. I suppose people might wonder about them being propaganda seeing as they don't explicitly condemn either government? But it's not likely they would.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 15:47 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Icarus Films will release Level Five on DVD and VOD on October 7.

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link

Cool

Santiniketan Go Straight To The Ghat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 16:55 (nine years ago) link

that's one i've never seen! i don't think it ever got much distribution in the states.

i got that UK "chris marker collection" thing and have been making my way through it. his documentary about israel (description d'un combat), which i hadn't seen in 15 years, is so moving. i wish that lanzmann's "porquoi israel" was more readily available, the two films would make a fascinating comparison.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

might as well add susan sontag's "promised lands" to that list. one thing i like about all three films is their complete absence of glibness. we could use more of that anguished searching now.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Level Five isn't great - and it's not helped by lots of ancient computer graphics. It has some great parts to it, though, and it's certainly not without something to say. There's just something about how fragmented it is that doesn't work.

― Spaceport Leuchars (dowd)

OTM. Not a particularly great transfer either.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, the ancient computer graphics combined with VHS bleed kind of make you want to poke your eyes out. I remember there were a couple of interesting ideas (a meditation on footage of a woman jumping to her death?) but nothing that has stuck with me.

Spaceport Leuchars (dowd), Saturday, 27 December 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

recent addition to my living room - really happy with the job the framers did on this!

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e128/ilxalbums/c245a5e2-0a4a-43b8-be38-6492943d72f9.jpg

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 20 April 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link

Beautiful.

Eric H., Tuesday, 21 April 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

if you type chris marker into amazon prime search, it comes up with three chris marker films plus "dilbert: the complete series"

mark s, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

So incredible, watch while you can - the most suppressed of Chris Marker's films, for years was near impossible to find, perhaps because it's his most personal. Vividly restored, and one of the first verite portraits of Post-war Japan from a Western perspective. https://t.co/Xl1nQnOzhE

— Aaron Stewart-Ahn (@somebadideas) June 21, 2019

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

He’s not hiding behind a big orange cat it that one, is he?

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link

I haven’t seen it! Mainly putting this here to remind myself to watch

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

I was just joking. When Agnès Varda passed recently I saw a few films of hers in which he appears and because he is camera shy she always obscured him in the fashion described.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link

Yeah I got that

shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

Oh, okay

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 June 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

Thanks for posting. Much, much cleaner than the DVDR copy that I lost a couple moves ago.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 22 June 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

Thanks for posting!!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 22 June 2019 11:24 (four years ago) link

Seems that French language version just showed up a few weeks ago of La Jetée on Criterion. Hadn’t realized that English language version had equal status.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 June 2019 12:28 (four years ago) link

Dope!

brimstead, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

Re: wins post, thx wins

brimstead, Saturday, 22 June 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

Yeah, thanks, wins.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 June 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

I can't seem to find any prior post, from myself or otherwise, but I really dug this installation he did I saw at MoMA which was called Silent Movie.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

Haven't reread those links recently. My memory was there was a five high stack of video monitors four around looping black and white footage of a glamorous lady or an old school phonograph, along with mash-up film posters on the nearby walls of things like a Maciste movie directed by René Clair, say.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I... had no idea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6U9oKZAaEY

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Wow. Did he do one for The Psychedelic Furs as well? #OneThread.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

Fantastic.

clemenza, Friday, 8 January 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

100th birthday today

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

Saw that on Mubi

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 July 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Haven't reread those links recently. My memory was there was a five high stack of video monitors four around looping black and white footage of a glamorous lady or an old school phonograph, along with mash-up film posters on the nearby walls of things like a Maciste movie directed by René Clair, say.

The Maciste movie was apparently a prequel, RAMBO MINUS ONE.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/55095cc2e4b0b6baebd8203a/t/55659e01e4b086f545c4510a/1432722945129/marker+art+monthly+.pdf

Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:09 (six months ago) link

I used to walk by this interesting-looking super high-window office in Soho which turned out to be for the publishing company Seven Stories Press. Soon I found out that a guy I knew worked there so one day he invited me in. On the walls there were some really interesting posters and drawings. On one wall was a bunch of doodles done by Kurt Vonnegut illustrating the seven (?) basical plotlines such as Man Falls in Hole. On another was a poster full of cool-looking /slightly-pulpy paperback covers that didn’t look quite real. I said “that looks like a Chris Marker thing” and he said “it is!”

Kizza Me on the Bus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:18 (six months ago) link


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