Dave-Yeah, it's a little olde tavern, has something to do with Eugene O'Neill lore. I missed the whole Secret Theatre scene but I used to hang out at the El 'n' Gee when it was filled with the types of folks being discussed and dismissed on the "pub rock" thread, if there ever was one. There was also a big blooze scene when I was a teen which I found completely repulsive. Roomful of Blues at the Shaboo in Willimantic! Barf! Emo makes much more sense.
Was there really a riot at a Dave Matthews concert in CT? Awesome!
― Arthur, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
And having lived in a redneck asshole town - no, people in hick towns do NOT help each other as much as NYers do. It's just simply untrue.
And you are coming here again why, NS?
― Ally, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Being defensive isn't some great thing and neither is "street smarts." I'd rather be in a "hick town" where people aren't so jumpy and "defensive" (I would also describe them as OFFENSIVE). Who is stupider, a relaxed guy or a stressed out "defensive" guy? Don't get me wrong, though. I like NY. I just don't like the whole "center of the world" thing that goes on in people's heads here. It's the "I'm better, me first" thing everywhere you go.
― Nude Spock, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kerry, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
BTW, The Stepford Wives was filmed in part in my boyhood hometown of Darien, Ct.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― bnw, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Well, 2 summers ago SF was in the midst of dot-communism, and was completely unbearable. It's a pretty segregated city, with Chinatown, hispanic areas, black areas, gay areas, but it's also really small, so you can go from one area to another pretty quickly (not unlike Boston, really). Oakland IS a lot better place as far as I'm concerned; but I'd rather live in Sacramento than SF. There's nothing functional about SF's "charms"; most of the place feels more like a museum than a city.
― Kris, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
3. Berlin
2. New York
1. Tokyo
Compared with the neon glow of Shinjuku, Times Square looks positively antique. There are no cafes in New York quite as fantastic as Tokyo cafes, the cinemas and record stores in Tokyo display much more interesting stuff, magazines are better, the youth here is better educated visually, the girls are to die for. It's safe, and the Pacific Ocean (with both surfing and temples) is 45 minutes away at Kamakura. It's like SF and New York combined.
Where New York trumps Tokyo is the art world.
― Momus, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nude Spock, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I mean, if you want proof, count the number of New Yorkers on the board versus the number of everywhere-elsers on the board, and note that there really isn't a huge stress/annoyance/happiness differential between the varied groups.
For the record, the entirety of New York City, not just glamourous Manhattan, is classic.
― Ally, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
New York is tranquility itself. The traffic is stately and placid compared to London's (is it fear of lawsuits? Why are US drivers so mandrax-calm?) and Tokyo's subway sardines make New York's look like business class. New Yorkers possibly get more upset because of their different sense of personal space ('If you can read my Times, you're too close...')
And, Momus, I didn't realize this thread was called NYC vs. Tel Aviv.
Let's see the inherent contradiction in your statement: you first make a big deal about how you can't judge NYC on "less than 5 years" (I assume in response to the posters who have said they've only lived here for a three years or less), then pointed out that because someone had a nice vacation in another city of a few weeks, it proves people are less stressed or angry or rude in those places? Riiiiight.
None of my friends had negative, stressful vacations in NYC. Two of them moved here based entirely on week-long vacations that were so great they decided this was the place to be.
― dave q, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kerry, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nathalie, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Is it true that subways in Japan have people to shove you into the trains?
― jameslucas, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dave q, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jameslucas, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tad (llamasfur), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 05:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 2 April 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
Anyway, back to being upset about the city having too many people.
― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 6 May 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
settling for mediocre halal is still better than settling for taco bell or a frozen dinner from the supermarket imo.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 6 May 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Is it? Who has higher standards?
― Wacky Way Lounge (Evan), Friday, 6 May 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually Taco Bell in NYC is probably the lowest you can get.
I will wait in long lines if I have someone to talk to, RARELY... otherwise, fuhgeddabout it. I have a MoMA membership and go in the galleries about 3x a year. Too fucking crowded, ALWAYS. (they have members-only previews, which I never go to for unknown reasons)
ian, wanna go to late 1920s vaudeville shorts at the FF Monday night? (or anyone else)
http://www.filmforum.org/films/vitaphone/PDF1VitaNotes.pdf
― resistance does not require a firearm (Dr Morbius), Friday, 6 May 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Honestly I am just grouchy -- in finals and had my job offer pulled away last minute for economic reasons. I normally don't make these kind of complaints and happily just go to the seventeenth best brunch or whatever.
― bin caught laden (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 May 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Plus my neighborhood still has a relatively nice balance where you can go to really good places that AREN'T always insanely jammed, with the exception of maybe Frankies Spuntino which I haven't been able to get a reasonable wait time for yet. Also Lucali is crazy, but if you show up before they open you don't wait so long.
― bin caught laden (Hurting 2), Friday, 6 May 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I think long lines that are not equivalent to the payoff are pretty endemic of every big city!
― a board in which there is lively and fuiud debate? (dayo), Friday, 6 May 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, May 6, 2011 5:40 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Not even a truth bomb; just fact
― Elegant Bitch (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 6 May 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
the solution is just not to eat in manhattan unless you have to
― iatee, Saturday, 7 May 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't eat in Manhattan - brunch at least. Below 110th.
People in Brooklyn get to spend less, and avoid Euro-handbags. And there are actual food people cooking.
― paulhw, Saturday, 7 May 2011 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
searchable old photos of NYC from the library archives
you're welcome
http://www.oldnyc.org/
― the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Friday, 22 May 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
ah yes i remember it well
http://gothamist.com/2016/07/13/nyc_1976_in_8mm.php
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 July 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link