Let Us Now Praise Dave Q

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inspired by one of his most recent eruptions of brilliance on the "Those Hostile to Pop Culture" thread -- his restatement of & refutation of so much that lies at the heart of pop-love:

Why keep throwing out the bathwater, when the baby is just going to soil every bath you subsequently run for it?

Made me laugh for a solid minute. His questions are always ace & and his outlook is as fresh and original as it is darkly hilarious. Dave Q., you rock the f**kin' house six ways to Sunday, and my hat's off to you.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

please post fave Q-isms on this thread

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 March 2003 02:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

The movie I was in is illegal because they filmed it when I was dead

-- dave q (scrape10...), March 9th, 2003 8:04 AM.

― Millar (Millar), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

He actually posted that bathwater thing almost two years ago, but still.

I respect him for precipitating the slowdown in London property prices.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

Apparently, you were going to take over the world, and every other form of music past and present merited nothing more than eyeballs rolled skyward. Forget Year Zero - from now on there wouldn't be 'years' even, just an endless repetitive-beat present! Strange, for the being next step of evolution (demonstrated by your disdain to communicate to us subhumans - any non-drug-related conversation consisted of some variation of "sniff"/"ehhhhh"w/squint), you weren't too overjoyed about it - you didn't even like your own music that much! Everything was obsolete after 20 minutes, or too commercial or conversely too "up it's own arse", too "disco"(or "mental") or else too "white" (odd, as all of you were almost albino). With so much stuff blacklisted, no wonder your silly hole-in-the-wall shops with space alien marquees usually had an inventory of 3 items, which were unlabelled of course to trap the unwary (i.e., anybody who entered). In fact, any mutations of your music that gave any pleasure whatever (from gabba to big beat to UK garage) were ruthlessly shunned, but then, so was anything deemed too challenging a listen as well.

Maybe your world-domination plans have taken root elsewhere for the moment. Big in America! This is the first time in history that such a quintessentially British cult-of-nothing would resort to POINTING TO SUCCESS IN AMERICA for validation! How low have you sunk?

No need to shave your heads - you already ALL look like them out of Orbital (ironically, you held them in special loathing as being 'studenty' and having blatant song forms) - except bearing the facial expression of a crusading lawyer in a straight-to-video about tobacco firms. (We won't mention the few of you clinging to Nu-Skool Breakz, we want to preserve some of your dignity.) In light of such technoid bon mots I will quote verbatim ("You've GOT to join us", "Even the worst techno is better than any example of any other so-called 'music'", "Why don't you listen to people banging on logs then, Luddite", "It's got to have da fonk"[yeah, that's why you're into progressive trance, eh?], "Ehhhhhh...""(sniff)"), I want to hear what you have to say for yourselves now!
-- dave q (scrape10...) (webmail), September 8th, 2001 12:00 AM. (link)

Oh, and those of you who say things like "You HAD to be there in the Summer of Love to understand, we had these convoys and..." Get a job, will you? You must be in your thirties by now, and you still talk about it!
-- dave q (scrape10...) (webmail), September 8th, 2001 12:00 AM. (link)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Plus these short records tend to end 'inconclusively' (trans. to listener experience = "Did I really hear that? Did it exist?" Like IDM - "are those noises supposed to be there or is the CD fucked?" The great thing about IDM is that now you can listen to EVERYTHING as a potential IDM record, for instance old spoken-word records from yard sales with peat moss and moldy raspberry jam on them. Extrapolating this you can get albums with actual songs on them and consider every single track a 'glitch!' except they're cleverly isolated and sequenced and not layered on each other!
-- dave q (scrape10...) (webmail), October 20th, 2002 3:49 PM

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pere Ubu named themselves after a play by Jarry, who also wrote "Crucifixion As an Uphill Bicycle Race" which was parodied by J.G. Ballard, who of course wrote 'Crash', which is the title of an album by the lovely and talented Dave Matthews Band.
-- tarden (scrape10...), June 17th, 2001

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Motown was better than Stax, which was just a bunch of down-home grunting. Stax fans always point to the 'integrated nature' of their label - i.e., trailer trash playing cartoon 'soulful' riffs, because they weren't good enough to be straight country. (Ask Rufus Thomas what he thought of Steve Cropper, who went on to be in the Blues Brothers, which is Stax's only legacy, unless Springsteen/Dave Marsh- rock counts. Wow.) And if Motown was a 'factory', makes for better music than a community-outreach project. How many Motown songs are remembered today versus how many Stax? I rest my case, and at least the crash brought Otis Redding relief from the bowel condition that caused him to howl in pain all the time. (What kind of dullard takes a song called "Try a Little Tenderness" and sings it like the drill sergeant in 'Full Metal Jacket'?)
-- dave q (scrape10...), October 27th, 2001

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pretty much every last of his Taking Sides subject lines are beautiful, for a start.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

My my, watch everyone sneering in fear! "Directionless hate", "victimizer", and the elite smartie standby, "I just find it corny and pathetic". Most of you would've defended Pat Boone in the 1950s and Peter, Paul & Mary in the 60s - then 30 years later, claimed you were into Elvis and the Stones all along. So what if some of their fans are homophobic morons - I constantly see the "Don't blame a band for their fans" thing trotted out when Morrisey's bootboys and Marilyn Manson's school gunmen are mentioned. Most of you sound like Greil Marcus - "Rock should be upsetting, unless of course it upsets ME"
-- dave q (scrape10...), August 14th, 2001

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

This board functions well as a source of 'oblique strategies for listeners', to be used as the individual sees fit.

Re 'applying theory to your life being unwieldy' - not really, it just means you have values, or a spine.
-- dave q (scrape10...), January 14th, 2002

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

that second to last one is amazing

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

BTW, if you want a CD that's REALLY outside the canon, check out 'Tormato' by Yes. Currently even the notorious 'Topographic' gets some props as a magnificently mad gesture and time-capsule cred, but this 1978 item is utterly dismissed even by progsters! The thing starts off business-as-usual ("Future Times/Rejoice"), but you notice that Squire has this echo-flange-filter discotron thing on the bass, which to my ears is an improvement over that dry adenoidal midrange competing-with-Howe thing. Chris meets Bootsy! The next track is the eyebrow-raiser. First of all it's disco, second of all it's called "Don't Kill the Whale". First the lyrics, of course it's not exactly "Fuck tha Police", but considering both the theme and Anderson's previous (as in 'previous offences', non-Brits), it's done with a surprising amount of deft sarcasm ("In beauty, vision/ do we offer much?"), not cringeworthy at all! Also, Jon sounds like he's singing about something he actually cares about, which has got to be a first for this bunch, well done. I hope they opened and closed the set with it in Japan.
"DKTW" also offers an important clue into the nature of 'rockism', along with "Miss You" and "I Was Made For Lovin' You" - namely, how much of the auteurist stamp does the artist in question feel the need to impose on an 'alien' genre? I feel "DKTW" is the essence of 'rockist disco' - it's disco, but with endless chord modulations and a particularly abrasive if not grating (perhaps programmatic in light of the lyrics) schlock-horror kybd fluorocarbon emission from Rick Wakeman (who throughout the album is either crapping on the material or misguidely trying to define it). Is the essence of 'rockism' believing you can elevate source material by individualising it? (Compare to Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff", which REALLY rocked the disco, or "Another One Bites the Dust", which subordinated itself completely to black radio conventions and thus absolutely KILLED every other dinosaur disco attempt.) 'DKTW' is one of those experiments that failed big enough to give rise to its own self-contained 'ecosystem' (everything's gone green!), and incidentally, Wakeman's 'contribution' would have Add N to X or Throbbing Gristle reaching for the earplugs!
"Madrigal" is a Howe/Anderson mellow thing that I'm sure is very nice, but with "Release, Release" we're back aboard the Event Horizon, and unlike Laurence Fishburne we haven't seen nearly enough yet. This is a fast, rockin' number, and if not for Anderson and Wakeman (who present a musicological problem as great and complex as the 'problem of free will to do evil' has for theologians - maybe it's the SAME problem!) it could be Tool OR the Talking Heads in the engine room, using the Lottery machine to generate time sigs as they do - until it breaks down into this bizarre middle section where crowd noise is overdubbed, and there's an unnaccompanied drum solo then a guitar solo - and they're both REALLY SHITTY! What were they trying to say here? "This is what the idiots who come to our show will eat up"? "This is as good if not better than the complicated stuff and our audience (and maybe us!) are too pretentious to realise it"? Or, heaven forbid, "THIS IS NEW WAVE? WE CAN DO THIS!"? That's two in a row where they faced down Freddy's mob ("Sheer Heart Attack") and tripped over their shoelaces! FWIW, the lyrics are sort of "Going for the One pt 2" - remember that one? "I tink I'll try and write a punchline/ but they're so hard to find in my cosmic mind/ so I think I'll take a look out the window"? This one talks about "Lack of concentration" and "we're not moving". Bauhaus all the way. As in letting the plumbing and electrical wires show, not as in lame goth shite.
The second side is what launched a thousand haircuts, and I can't imagine what it must've sounded like in 1978, but..."Arriving UFO". Poly "Klaatu Niktu Barada" Styrene fans complained about this one? More Wakeman keys that are abrasive and actually physically painful DESPITE WAKEMAN'S PROBABLE INTENTION (although he was probably sleeping in a gutter at the time), which makes all the difference. "Circus of Heaven". Twee pseudo reggae, which of course they can't do straight, but this time they subtract the beats instead of subdividing them, and if you're going to be 'twee' then go all the fucking way and have your five-year-old kid talk in the outro, which is what Anderson's done here. I actually like this song a lot. As 'ingenuousness' goes, this makes Jonathan Richman sound like Chuck D. Onward to "Onward". "Through the long night...the long night...of my li-i-i-i-i-ife..." A wedding song, and here's what to blame for every shitty AOR cash cow produced by Ron Nevison. Starship stole their whole career from this thing. Not only that, but Metallica stole ALL of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" from an incidental Howe noodle, which places those thrashing Napster nemesii 'zackly in the Bay Area post-hippie AOR context I'd always feared they secretly had the secret handshake too. Then there's the last track, which sounds like a band trying to be Yes, but without a clue. Like they're trying to learn "Siberian Khatru" off some old sheet-music but the music has mistakes in it and they have to keep going over it. I love it when bands parody themselves, don't you? Especially unintentionally!

-- dave q (scrape10...) (webmail), November 23rd, 2001 2:00 PM.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

That reminds me of something he once posted to ILM in answer to a question about 'the decline of music'. A long, sprawling but totally coherent shrug of the shoulders. It was magisterial.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I bought the CD because of that review.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ever since I saw that picture of Mick Jones with long hair in 'Last Gang in Town' how could I ever take them seriously again? (It's not the long hair per se that offends - it's that Jones looks equally as uncomfortable and embarrassing as a failed glamster than as a fake punk.) The only band that ever ascended higher on this particular shit mountain was Public Enemy. "Insane like Coltrane", no Chuck, you are as insane as the 'cool' careers counselor who got in a fistfight with the principal once. Although you are more insane than Mick Jones, if less than Flavor Flav
-- dave q (scrape10...), June 5th, 2002.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

OK so VH's later stuff is bad, but no worse than some of the 'quiet storm' shit of JC's later mystical modal mucus that just drags on and on, but then I think it's because they were over-ambitious and that's certainly no bad thing
-- dave q (scrape10...), May 31st, 2002

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Judas Priest vs. Manowar

Way back shortly after LBJ rescued the US military/industrial/intelligence apparatus from those commie Micks, some greasers and cholos decided they could get more pussy if they copied some Them, Kinks and Animals down at the local roller rink. It didn't work because they were still ugly, so they brought an organ of their own to play with. Some of these bands turned into Count Five, Shadows of Knight, Blues Magoos and Vanilla Fudge, the latter of which whispered little-birdy style into Ritchie Blackmore's ear - "Do this heavy thing, yeah? Except make it silly and fun, with real fast tempos, ditch the Yardbirds' reverential fellating of ancient black guys, and stick ridiculous demi-classical flourishes on it - take all the subtlelty out, like the Chem Bros or something!"
As the Purps' subsequent solo careers showed, the euroclassy-kitchen-sink approach did not require much in the way of 'intelligence' to put together, a fact which didn't go unnoticed by guitar goons like J. Priest, who jumped on the DP's ineffable legacy like Roman soldiers discovering the surviving virgins in the aftermath of Masada. Since these bands never shook off the perception of being poor relations to Zep's wizened enigmas or Sab's space cadets (Sab/Purple = Sun Ra/Steve Allen), they sadly had to settle for selling out arenas in the USA and the then-communist bloc and consoled themselves with state-of-the-AOR production and ever-more-startling instrumental chops - thus POWER METAL! A genre so unfashionable that most people aren't even aware of its existence - mellotrons, sword-and-sorcery, Yma Sumac vocals, pristine production, all stuck onto that "Highway Star" chassis! None of the pretenders have overtaken the mighty Manowar (Americanized Priest, muscles instead of crotchless leather chaps) - ALL MEN PLAY ON 10!!!
-- dave q (scrape10...), October 7th, 2001.

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hmmm, coffee. Associate it with habit, could be a placebo effect going on but the reason I believe it works is that sometimes it produces the exact opposite effect by which I mean if I have 10 cups in a row I immediately fall asleep. But then sometimes afterward I wake up and I feel wired out beyond belief. Actually that latter bit totally fucks up my theory though, well not really a theory more like proving an axiom in the general philosophical outline of what I was getting at, relies on a dialectic. As above so below rite? Alpha/Omega, Wilson/Dylan, Berry/Lewis type polarity. How that ties in with the coffee is that if sometimes it has a quantifiable effect on metabolism that's binary/essentialist (OK now we're getting toward Confucianism here) switching consciousness/unconsciousness (literalising it as well merging con. sig (ie 'actually being awake' [factoring in external con. complexifiers ie SuperCaffeinatedCon = 'Sleep'[dis. imp. validity of perceptions[+ extrapolations from same]('sleep'=morpheus[AmazingSpiderMan#101])('eff. stim. SITUATIONAL?')'rough equiv. altering situational aspects broadcaster via affecting parameters receiver' etc etc
-- dave q (scrape10...) (webmail), February 28th, 2003 12:13 AM.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Boycott Anne Coulter until she gets a tit job
-- dave q (scrape10...), January 13th, 2003

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Joy Division transmogrifies into the Captain & Tenille. Geddit?
-- tarden (scrape10...), July 17th, 2001

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

on the thread "Taking Sides: Pornography Vs Erotica":

What do autopsy films count as
--dave q (scrape100@hotmail.com), August 22nd, 2001.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right now I am currently curious re relationship between death metal and salsa. From the drums angle. (Dave Lombardo - "All the Slayer stuff is quite easy if you start off playing Cuban music, like I did. You have to do loads of rhythms all at the same time") Maybe reason why so much of this came from Florida? (P Sandoval, etc) Hardcore "Aryan" polka beat Latinised = deathmetal? Also, I want to se Anthony M's exegesis on R Stewart's "Dirty Weekend"/"Attractive Female Wanted" diptych
-- dave q (scrape10...), February 10th, 2003.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

So, What's Your Opinion Of Disco?

Only area of pop music where the continental Europeans produced anything of any worth whatever (pre-black metal/gabba, of course)
-- dave q (scrape10...), April 27th, 2002

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 03:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can relate to the feelings expressed about 'old pop' by Nick D (whether or not he's being entirely serious) because that's EXACTLY the way I feel about cinema. Any movie made before about 1963, I just wonder, "Why are all their voices like chipmunks? Why does every character speak exactly the same at 200 mph? Why is their such a fuss made about such trivial, sanitized situations?" 70s 'auteurist' American films just make me think, "Why does everybody drawl at 2 words a minute like they're stoned? Why are women constantly throwing themselves at these unwashed slobs with stringy hair, and shagging them within 30 seconds? Does anyone use a complete sentence? Why does the ending leave everything open, guess they were too stoned to finish the movie. Is this another 'stickin' it to the Man' film? Yawn."
-- dave q (scrape10...), October 14th, 2001.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Dead, useless and bankrupt!" Heh heh! Not to mention arrogant, ugly and worst of all boring! "How about that weather eh? Bit cold out." "Ah, but not as cold as yesterday." There should be an atmospheric dome over the whole island so these no-neck (Brits come in two varieties - neckless and chinless!) slobs can't talk about the weather anymore! Everybody here is the fucking same, speak to them for 5 seconds and you can accurately predict everything they will ever do for the rest of their life. However, just to be a cunt I must point out the question too has the 'Brit Shit' taint! Nobody else would slate a track for being 'out of date' and 'inexcusably naff'. In fact, I have to hear this! I think t's the perfect prescription for this society of lazy losers, "Less conversation". Because none of you grinning, snickering, inbred lumps of shit ever conversate about anything except football and weather and when your giros are coming in. Less conversation, more action! But that's an impossible dream so rather than swim against the tide I've decided to get the fuck out of here sooner rather than later. BTW I'm technically an 'immigrant' so I can say anything I want and if anybody in England criticises me that automatically makes them a racist! Heh heh. Don't really like foreigners in your midst do you? Despite all the multiculti cant. (I love some Britticisms though, fave being "unhelpful". As in, whenever somebody threatens to say anything interesting on the forum they get accused of trolling and told "Bringing up this kind of topic is UNHELPFUL") Anyway, what's wrong with insulting women and gays? Just because someone sucks dicks or possesses an organic incubator unit doesn't make them special! Especially women, they make up over half the population and since when is it incorrect to ridicule the majority?
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 1st, 2002.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Being from the People's Republic of Western Canada the school once did this thing where everybody dressed up as third world peasants and harangued the gathered audience about their selfishness and materialism at Xmas. And you wonder where some of my 'political views' come from?

-- dave q (scrape10...), December 10th, 2002.

― rosemary (rosemary), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Madonna is a woman in her forties whose tour is named after a JG Ballard novel, who uses extreme manga in her stage show, plays Johny Thunders guitar over IDM noise, sings about parricide and auto-cannibalism, collaborates with Algerian-French glitch merchants, and does a show consisting 99% material from her PREVIOUS TWO ALBUMS. Madonna has a massive audience. Paul McCartney and the Stones do not do new material. Kid 606 does not play stadiums and is not a woman in her forties. 80s popstars either hit the holiday camps or leapt into musical 'maturity'/dullness. Madonna is a woman in her forties who plays the same venues as Britney (not to mention J*net) and competes in the musical arena with Kid 606. McCartney and the Stones (I hate to keep repeaing their names, but Elvis is dead) won't play anything after 1970, while the thought of Madonna collaborating with Slipknot is not entirely shocking. Oh, and she's a woman in her forties, who releases records that sell in large quantities.

I just wanted to share how momentous I find this. However much people talk about her, and I know it's a lot, it's still NOT ENOUGH. I turned the TV off after the actual show, because there was yet another doc on Madonna-as-ambition etc. Why? Why do the words 'ambition', 'hunger', etc etc keep coming up? When perhaps 'artistic' and 'brilliance' should be thrown into the mix more. Maybe even 'genius'. And I'm not a fucking romantic either, I believe genius is a function/motor/whatever of 'craft'. Another word never mentioned in proximity with 'Madonna', when it bloody well should be. In fact, 'Craft' would've been the PERFECTLY assertive triumphalist album title for her last one, but 'Music' did the job well enough. David Bowie would've called an album 'Music' if he was smart enough to figure out how to keep people interested in his little games - unfortunately, he wasn't. Unlike Madonna. Who's far beyond playing little games anyway.

Don't stop now Madge. But even if you do, you're still the greatest ever!
-- dave q (scrape10...), September 2nd, 2001.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

TS: Pere Ubu vs Roxy Music

Ye olde R'n'R + FX + 'mannered' singing (just kidding, Crocus! Heh heh)
-- dave q (scrape10...), August 1st, 2002.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Taking Sides: Third Eye Blind vs. Sugar Ray

Actually, this isn't a real 'TS'. I know that when people lapse into sputtering profanity, they've given up their cred credibility and their cool vanishes in the face of their incomprehension, so it's not really going to make me look any less retarded than I already do, but curiosity is killing this cat so here goes: WHO THE FUCKETY-FUCKING FUCK BUYS THIS GODDAMNED FUCKING SHIT? WHO ARE THESE FUCKHEADS? HOW DID THIS SORT OF FUCKING SHIT GET TO EXIST? WHO THE FUCKETY-FUCKING FUCK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PIG VOMIT? HOW WAS IT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN THAT AFTER A CENTURY OF POPULAR AMERICAN MUSIC, YEARS OF FUSION AND UPHEAVAL AND CULTURE AND INEXPLICABLE ERUPTIONS AND EVERYTHING ENDED UP WITH THIS....THIS....FUCKETY-FUCKING SHIT! IS THERE A NAME FOR THIS KIND OF FUCKING SHIT? WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK POSSESSED THESE FUCKERS TO WRITE AND RECORD THIS WORTHLESS SHIT AND WORSE YET, WHAT MAKES STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLES BUY AND LISTEN? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH AMERICANS ANYWAY? EVEN CREED HAS THE CHRISTER THING GOING ON AS THEIR LAME ATTEMPT AT HAVING AN IDENTITY, BUT THESE SHITHEADS HAVE NOTHING GOING FOR THEM WHATEVER! AND I BET THEIR FANS ARE THE SAME! WHY DON'T YOU KILL THEM? FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!

Seriously, I'm curious, what festering, maggot-ridden, loose rectal orifice did these severed tapeworm parts fall out of?
-- dave q (scrape10...), January 15th, 2002.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 10 March 2003 04:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

TS: Joy Division vs. Flipper (hint - FLIPPERFLIPPERFLIPPER!!!)

(For the remainder of this post I will replace the names 'Flipper' and 'Joy Division' with appropriate substitutes)

Band/fans thing solved definitively - who would you rather be stuck in an airline seat next to, somebody wearing a 'Charlie Tuna' friendly line-drawing t-shirt or the ubiquitous jagged-pancake-stack 'Comfort Women' one? (Either that or the Vatican postcard one?) Admit it, by now any sane person will run away from somebody wearing the 'Srebenica Serb Spunk Spitfire' top, even an MSP 'Teenage Revolutionary Glam Suicide' one is less embarassing. It's a mystery why there's so many more of the 'Doctor (Mengele) & the Medics' ones about though - 'Cetacean' invented 'emo' (which I don't care about except in the context of this sentence, i.e. 'it exists') and 'grunge' ("Life" ripped "Spirit of Radio" ten years before "Teen Spirit" did "More Than a Feeling" - important due to suggesting classic rock/underground crossover that was necessary for subsequent alteration of rock landscape i.e. people BUYING stuff that 'sounded underground' even if it was underground stuff that sounded classic and the commercial angle is crucial IMHO because isn't expanding your community enough so that it crosses over or overlaps the whole point of making music that isn't just onanism in the first place? And sadly for some idealists, commercial success [even by proxy] is still the only reliable indicator of this and Brits have a real problem with that because it involves talking about MONEY and that's a sore point as none of them HAVE any, so as a defense mechanism they prefer heroic [ha] failures like Nick Drake or Ian Curtis and use their supposed interestingness to prop up their own fatalism, the socialism of an apolitical age), whereas 'Nazi Sex Torturers' invented - Marion? 'Phlegmish'? (As in 'mucus', not that country that shelters terrorists and pedophiles) (OK there's been enough justified slating of Curtis' hilarious Kermit the Frog singing, so let's look elsewhere for 'Liebensraum''s musical features - hey, y'know those dopey bass players who say, 'They're like guitars but easier - less strings!' And then play like it IS a guitar, i.e. no rhythm whatever, just disconnected notes, like an especially slow and maladroit J Mascis solo, except an octave lower? 'SS Party Squad' made a 'sound' out of it! 'Little Mermaid' OTOH did the grinding thing AND the fast thing [Sequencing "Living for the Depression" next to "Sex Bomb", aside from being like if Coltrane out "Giant Steps" and "Ascension" out on the same album in 1959, presaged both 'hardcore'-via-'mathcore'-to-what hardcore became (i.e. 'space drone' etc.) but as in the 'emo' and 'grunge' things, they can't be blamed for those either if you don't like them but must be credited if you liked ANY of it! Heh] and if you like flawed, imperfect singing and playing (the 'Battery Cage Sex Slaves' fan's last line of defense) then 'Free Willy''s got out-of-tune Harry Partch guitarrs, cacophonous yelling and the least Neil Peart-like drumming since Kleenex but all this is actually mixed in with other stuff ("...Depression" is quite tight high-speed mathcore) and the incompetent bits are done far more energetically and (ahem) HOOK-y than the muffled, it's-COLD-in-here-let's-play-wearing-baseball-mitts stuff on 'Institutional Gang Rape''s records. Energetic maybe because 'Moby Dick' sang "Life is the only thing worth living for", and Curtis said it all with the first line of 'Unknown (ha) Pleasures (double ha)' - "I'M LOOKING FOR A GUIDE TO TAKE ME BY THE HAND" - I see, he wants his mommy. (Or his 'nanny state' - WHOAH! I didn't say that, I get in enough shit as it is, ignore that) Then again, this kind of babyishness isn't surprising for somebody who killed himself rather than face the consequences of abandoning his wife and child, but an artist's moral shortcomings aren't important, it's that he couldn't even transform his inadequacy into one decent line. ("Atrocity Exhibition" - wow, stealing titles from hip books and writing lyrics betraying no reading whatever of said book, that's so Iron Maiden. Actually I think "Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" just unwittingly reiterates everything I've ever said about the British but here's not the time or place) And yes I know that 'Miami Mascot''s Will Shatter is a dead junkie, but between him and Curtis I know who would've given a more honest answer to this fabulous couplet question (courtesy of 'Legendary SF punk band named for TV dolphin') - "EVER THINK YOU'RE SMART/ AND THEN FIND OUT YOU'RE NOT?"
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 11th, 2002.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

So many of these are amazing. He's long been one of my favorite posters but seeing all the stuff together drives it home.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

LP, CD and cassette of every Roxy Music album, plus the box set. LP, CD and cassette of Breeders' 'Last Splash', CD replaced three times. All formats of Bowie's 'Diamond Dogs', Stones''Black and Blue', Motley Crue's 'Shout at the Devil'. Most frequent r-purchase is 'Hounds of Love', which is weird because I don't listen to it very much. Most of these re-purchases occured while drunk, and intense need to listen to certain tracks combined with impatience with looking for old copy. ("What, so buying another one is easier?" Welcome to the wonderful world of alcoholism)
-- dave q (scrape100...), May 22nd, 2002.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

First, "Looks that Kill" sounds a bit similar to "TV Eye". Beatwise, fumbly-gtr-lead wise. "Red Hot" is a also close in feel to "1970" as well, let's go to a dangerous party where bad stuff might happen. That's the similarities. Diffs.? OK. Iggy was an educated guy from a liberal college town who was into free jazz and performance art and Jim Morrison, the Stooges took psychedelic drugs to reach their 'cosmic O-mind'[remember this] and the extent of their rebellion was that they hated Alvin Lee. Nikki Sixx was a fuckup from nowhere who wanted to be in Social Distortion and TSOL. (What's more 'rock'?) The Stooges sang about sex and violence but they weren't really evil, they were just celebrating the new freedoms and loveliness of a world where the huge population of teenagers would see to it that people would quit doing dull old jobs and wars and marriages and instead kick out the jams all day long and fuck everybody in sight!!! Motley Crue sang about sex and violence in a world where everybody's parents had absolved all responsibilities and were now crackheads and bikers who pimped their kids until the kids were old enough to run away from home and start bands like Social Distortion and TSOL. 'Shout at the Devil' is NOT party rock. It's an amazingly bitter album. "Now I'm killing you, watch your face turning blue." "Out go the lights, in goes my knife, pull out his life, consider that bastard dead." All the old Stooges fans shook their heads. "Sure, Iggy sang about that stuff too, but it was about existential-rage-for-life, not Motley's cheap, crass exploitation." Well who exactly created the cheap crass world Motley came from, boomer shit? Free sex-n-drugs don't look so good when it's your mom indulging in same now, does it? Iggy hated cops because they were part of a huge monolith that silenced the wisdom of John Sinclair and had the temerity to impose draconian $10 fines on Ann Arbor potheads. Nikki Sixx hated cops because the LAPD likes to beat the shit out of anybody they see, particularly punks and junkies who ended up on the street because their revolutionary-generation parents put their new freedom and assertiveness in action and dumped the kids when they got in the way of their porno-film/crank-dealing business. (Motley/Nirvana = Pistols/Smiths?) (Back to sonics - compare side-closers, "Dirt" ["I'm lerrrning..." WHO FUCKING CARES! The reason everything's so fucked up is your generation was content to 'learn about themselves', forever] to "Danger" [they rip off Judas Priest where Iggy rips off ALbert Ayler, who is more 'honest'?], and also, Mick Mars session-frustration might be less 'rock' than Ron Asheton's drug-frustration but it sounds kind of similar in the end except with a squeaky trebly grating tone instead of that thick pretty chewy Asheton thing - in fact, Mars sounds more like James Williamson) THe Stooges = hippies and a poet who protested too goddam much, and however much they bragged about being stupid (tip-off), you can't imagine any of them losing in Scrabble to Tommy Lee, could you? (Also re the Morrison thing - Vince Neil's fat, slobbering, drunk vehicular menace is truer to the Lizard King's spirit than any rippling torso. RIPPLING TORSOS! Since when is that a good thing? Since Iggy!) Final seal of argument (for dave q if nobody else) - the Stooges could, under a certain light, MAYBE pass for being English. The Crue never, ever, ever, ever could be mistaken for being English in a million years. Therefore they are both more 'rock' and 'better'. Too bad they only made one good album, but then, the Zakary Thaks only made one SINGLE and that was enough.
-- dave q (scrape100...), July 25th, 2002.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 10 March 2003 05:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr. Q, while your genius is certified (and certifiable), PLEASE use that rectangular key w/ the hitched arrow in the middle row of your undoubtedly ergonomic keyboard more than once a spiel. My eyes thank you in advance.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dave Q is one of the few posters I don't wish posted more or less, his wit is perfectly spaced.
Homegro could learn alot from this wonderful example.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

jbr: haha my friend chris is in a bikini in the april fool's issue of MRR!
geeta: ahahhaha!!
geeta: dave q in a bikini=urgent and key

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dear MRR - I can't believe you printed a whole interview with those assholes Rusty Speculum. Everyone here in Turdwater knows what they're REALLY like - fucking macho jerks! I'm sick of so-called 'libertarians' defending your 'right' to publicise the antics of the latest jocks-with-guitars to rip off dumb suburban 'punk' kids (read EMp-Tee-Vee Clones) but as somebody who's seen them close up, I've gotta stand up and say something!
Ask anyone in Podunkville what the guitar player said when he broke a string in soundcheck. (Even HAVING soundchecks is a bit Green Day!) "Son of a bitch, I broke a string!" Me and Starla and Tigrette had been hanging around ALL DURING the soundcheck, so it's not like they didn't notice we were there before using the ultimate sexist insult (and yes, to all those so-called 'feminists' 'reclaiming the B-word' - this WAS guys saying it, remember?) - LET ALONE INTO THE MIC!!!
That day, I realised Rusty Speculum were just more sexist, racist PIGS!! They have no respect for their audience or society in general! There's already Maxim and Blender for stupid suburban white boys to read but why do you need to promote this kind of shit in MRR?
-- xBitch!x, Turdwater, Vt (scrape10...) (webmail), March 1st, 2003

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 March 2003 06:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

(somehow I never put together that tarden = dave q)

― bnw (bnw), Monday, 10 March 2003 07:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

A recent gem:

I really fuckin' resent my ancestors (not in a P Larkin way, altho that too, have sex w/ me & I'll tell you all about it). I mean picture the scene 70 skidillion yrs ago somewhere in Africa. "Hey we're moving." "Where to?" "Some GODDAMNED MOTHERFUCKING PLACE WHERE IT'S COLD ALL THE FUCKING TIME! It's great, see, you have to spend loads of money on extra clothes, going out is torture, even staying IN is torture because even though we'll be coming back periodically to raid oil it still won't be enough to keep our fuckin' skyrise jerry-built little hovels fuckin' warm because nothing will be insulated properly! Everybody will be depressed and coughing and frostbitten and just wanting to fuckin' hibernate but instead we'll get to go to work every fuckin' day for the privilege of not fuckin' freezing to death! Cool huh?" "Umm.." "Wait it gets better! Half of the heating budget will go to leaving the water heater on all night and even then come morning there'll only be enough hot water out of the tap to fill a motherfucking piss bottle so everybody will be walking around even more depressed and violent cuz they're unshaven and look and smell like shit all the time!"

Why the goddamn FUCK did these idiots populate this fucking wasteland? Is this any way to live? (OK I'm 1/4 Hungarian which makes me some kind of pseudo-chink or something ["Mongoloid, he was a mongoloid, unhappier than you & me!"] but what's everybody else's excuse? (Embracing-dark-side dept., maybe that's why I don't really 'get' the historically pacifist [heh] Brits mass-demo'ing 'we're sorry about that other shit we won't raid yr oil no more' [not to mention trying to convince the world for the last 50 yrs that you're really a bunch of conscience-stricken commies] - doesn't convince me - it is in your natures. Repeat after me, "We are assholes who want to kill everybody and steal their shit but don't worry we will get our just deserts, ie annihilation, and it was all our own fault for MOVING TO A GIANT MEAT LOCKER" feels good doesn't it but the craven cowering in the face of cosmic destruction doesn't SUIT you, although if somebody can figure out how to keep a cup of coffee HOT for the space of time it takes to drink the fucker then maybe the prospect of WW3 would aggravate me a bit more (World responds - "You NEED more coffee?" Uh, sorry...)
-- dave q (scrape10...), February 19th, 2003

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 10 March 2003 08:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ronan, do you mean to say you could have a good time in a Macedonian refugee camp as well? Because that would be about the same as this crumbling entropic abattoir of a city, which boasts more drunken thugs and coke-addled media arseholes per square inch than anywhere in Europe, possibly Earth.

Although, on days when I don't actually have to work, I quite enjoy the place for just wandering aimlessly, you find something new all the time. Every tube stop seems like a different country, which is good, you can escape without escaping. Also, I don't think I could ever live in a monocultural city ever again after living here, it would seem so arid and dull in comparison.

If ILE is to be remembered through the ages, it's most stunning achievement may be that it induced me to say something nice about London. What's happening to me...
-- dave q (scrape10...), August 31st, 2001.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dave, are you telling me those threshing, gobbing, pogoing punks, 90% male, deeply neurotic, dressed in bin liners, happy to agree with Lydon that sex was 'two and a half minutes of squelching noises', poised on the cusp of turning Punk into the semi-fascist Oi, were in fact warm- blooded mammals just trying, in their way, to 'get it on' with the opposite sex?
-- Momus (nic...), August 31st, 2001.

"Two and a half minutes"? Christ, what am I, Superman on Viagra?
-- dave q (scrape10...), August 31st, 2001.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

What is the greatest country in the world? (5 matching messages)

Russia - hundreds of years of perfecting every conceivable sort of human misery, and they're still coming up with new ones, which is some sort of achievement.
-- dave q (scrape10...), September 28th, 2001.

― geeta (geeta), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

a v funny and incredibly knowledgeble person who listens widely and comes up with all sorts of insights and a damn fine writer as well.

I love his sense of humour too.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 10 March 2003 09:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

(alt q - 'Diet consisting 100% of instant coffee and marijuana, C or D?') :)

Thanx ppl - shall be sadly absent from board over next sort while while I finish 'Donna Summer project'. (Actually, see 'stoner rock' thread on ILM for the true facts...)

― dave q, Monday, 10 March 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

the infamous "Hong Kong Electrobutt"

I've got a CD by Kelly Chen and the only thing that isn't in Chinese is the release date (1999), it's the one with the poster in it. HK pop ROOLS! Maybe somebody could tell me more about this CD because I can't read Cantonese!
Defn. 'electrobutt' - the ultimate 80s working-class art form. Think Berlin ('Top Gun' period), Pat Benatar, Loverboy, Billy Squier (whose 'Emotions in Motion' is a lost classic for ANY era!) - buttrock for people who actually talked to GURLZ! Syndrums, VERY processed distortion buried in the mix, ballads with piano/synth/gtr lines in unison. This music owed quite alot to Prince (aforementioned buried-metal, the 'squiggly' kybds, electro-slap bass in place of plodding AOR bass), and in turn, was the source of the mesh-top/legwarmer thing that allowed Madonna to burst out of the NYC art-dance ghetto into the hearts of Middle America (from whence she [AND Prince] came) - "Burnin' Up" is a veritable homage to this most forgotten of forms - forgotten everywhere but MTV Asia it seems - I'll get to that in a minute - but first, if Madonna made the style OK, then it was transmuted into ART by...(drum roll)...
BILLY IDOL. The ultimate electro-cruising music with (crucially) cheeze-metal on top - everybody who was raving about crap like 'Graceland' and 'So' and 'Dream of the Blue Turtles' should've moved their Reeboks down to the 7-11 and stuck their ear in the Camaro with the GURLZ in the front seat, because if they heard 'Rebel Yell' they would've heard the most plasticky-beautiful glowing neon fake-genuine rockin' disco EVER! "Flesh for Fantasy", Jesus! And the next album, 'Whiplash Smile', has a six-minute symphony that's the "River Deep Mountain High"/"Stairway to Heaven"/WHATEVER-you-use-to-mean-apotheosis ("Don't Need A Gun") and other stuff that's equally good. But did anyone notice, besides the kids who were too smart for Maiden but still not dessicated/prematurely senile enough for Sting? NO! Because these crits were wetting themselves over the latest David Byrne or Sinead O'Connor atrocity, that's why! Fuck them!
Anyway, Kelly Chen! Here's the info and anyone who knows can tell me more! Track 1 is a Prince-like thing, where Kelly sounds like Sheena Easton. Track 4 is an absolutely swell soft-metal ballad, the only words in English being "You Don't Have to Say Goodbye", with those half-step time changes before the chorus like Erasure, and it's easily as good as if not better than "Take My Breath Away" (Berlin's and possibly Rex Smith's). Track 7 is the contempo one, it starts off with 10 seconds of drum'n'bass, then turns into this Hi-NRG thing that sounds really anguished about I know not what. It's got that mad effect where it pans from left to right with every syn-drum (yes, SYN-DRUM, not 'programmed', this ain't IDM!), like I haven't heard anyone do since some of the mixes of New Order's 'Round and Round'. Then it stops and does the d'n'b thing again. Track 11 MUST be heard. In the only other English text on the sleeve, it's called the "Kelly Mix" of Track 1, and it is weird. A half-assed Casio beat, synth horns, the vocal vaguely shoehorned into this rhythm, and a Devo-like mutant surf guitar louder than everything repeating the same lick all through the song. But all produced IMMACULATELY, which makes all the difference!
If ANYBODY can tell me more about this CD, Kelly, or HK pop, please do so! Even all the websites are in Cantonese. And if you want to discuss the genius of Billy Idol feel free to do that too!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 10 March 2003 16:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tracer, I had just copied that and was about to post it! I think that's when I first fell in love with dave q.

― Arthur (Arthur), Monday, 10 March 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had no answer to this question until last night when a drunken flamate rolled in and put 'Abbey Road' on AGAIN, and I was lying in bed praying "PLEASE take it off before 'Octopus's Garden', it was like being a kid again and lying in bed dreading your alcoholic father returning home or something - then the fucking song came on, and I thought that once the fucking thing had started I would be able to withstand the pain but I couldn't, I just lay there shaking uncontrollably like I was in Room 101, and the drunken fucker was also SINGING ALONG to te fucking thing as well. For booby-trapping an otherwise pleasant, inoffensive record right in the middle of Side One with that, may they burn!
-- dave q (scrape10...), August 7th, 2001.

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 11 March 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

dave q needs to write a book.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 00:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

if they had him rewrite the new testament I'd become a Christian!!

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 00:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

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I wouldn't presume to be able to write like he does in a million years, so I'll describe - unfortunately, the scene in I picture is a rather sad one. He's wandering through the house, alone, after screaming at Patti, who is chiding him after another father-son row. "Why are you so hard on that boy, Bruce?" "The kid's got to learn not to talk so much. Say the wrong thing in this world to the wrong person, you can get killed. He's got to learn, don't you see?" "Bruce, you're starting to sound like your own..""That's enough." Bruce would never hit her, he's not Jackson Browne, so what he does is pick up a vase and launches it at the platinum 'Tunnel of Love' disc on the wall and storms out. (It had to be that one, there's no rage like the rage of someone who thought they had that adult stuff figured out until life did one of its inside-out flip- flops on your ass again.) But he can't go out. That would mean driving, and driving reminds him of those early songs of freedom and later songs of desperation, all of which he now wishes he'd never written, especially now that there's a war on and everyone out there is singing his songs without knowing what they're about. He wishes he'd never written them because they made sense of other people's lives and not his. The biz is like that, you give everything and they miss the difficult parts and distort the parts they like to suit themselves. Well, fair's fair after all. If he could take bubblegum garage trash and turn it into 'Darkness', then why can't the popsters take 'Darkness' right back and turn it into Garth Brooks? Sure, it's the most rational and understandable thing in the world, but it still hurts. Ah well, there's worse things that happen, thinks Bruce. He's calmed down a bit now that Patti's out of earshot. No problem making up to her, I'll just show up at the studio one day when she's doing an album, long enough to get a producer credit and maybe move 1,000 more units, 999 more than if I don't.
After a few cans of Bud work their predictable magic, Bruce decides not to wait, and make up with Patti right now. Beer is so good for that, even if one's reasons for wanting a post-beer reconcilation are somewhat suspect. She's having none of it. Maybe she gets off on being a redhead. "Bruce, I'm serious. You have to talk to that boy like a human being, he's afraid to come home." "Ah, fuck it." Bruce picks up the phone. "I'm gonna call my old man and go out for some beers. He's a stand-up guy, doesn't make me listen to this kind of emotional bullshit." Patti in his face. "BRUCE YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR SON! Not sit in a bar talking about baseball with some old Irish drunks who you always hated..." "DON'T SAY THAT ABOUT MY OLD MAN! HE DID THOSE THINGS BECAUSE HE HAD TO! MADE A MAN OUTTA ME!" But now this is the rage of the disoriented, not of the secure - dangerously close to getting out of control. There is still one heavy object on the table - but where to aim? He's got selective beer vision now. There it is, on the platinum 'Darkness' disc, side one, track two. "Adam Raised a Cain". Bingo. He collapses into his seat, muttering, "I wish I had cold blood. Maybe I do. Maybe I always did. Ahhh, fuck. Nobody understands me. Nobody. Ever. I have the dumbest fans in the world. My band are all cretins. For example, Miami Steve thinks he can sing and Max Weinberg thinks he can play jazz. Everyone thinks I'm a scam just because back in the 70s I wanted to hang out with more interesting people, how was I supposed to know it would look like a press mafia using me as a dupe? And that time I decided to stop writing about and for other people and write about MYSELF, everybody including the diehard fans - fuck 'em, they probably think 'Racing in the Streets' is an ode to the Petty brothers - ignored it, or got embarassed by it and the 'East of Eden' allusion and the Otis Day & His Knights- derived music - and what the fuck is so wrong with that, at least unlike some other chirper/cleffers I could name who might or might not be James Taylor with his 'Steamroller' shit I don't fall flat on my ass doing funky garage music - and now, irony of ironies, that fucking song is coming back to mock me. Fuck me and fuck my own records. Guess I'll call my old man." Independence Day has come and gone, and it was a weird one this time in America, but there's the same hot blood flowing thru their veins, after all. In fact, he's got a plan, maybe when the kid rolls in tomorrow morning he'll give him a copy of an old English punk single called "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" as a present. Kids like that kind of stuff. He likes it too, it's sort of like 'Nebraska' except not as embarrassing as listening to your old man's record. That can wait another thirty years or so, when Cain is released from the East of Eden Reformatory, having been rehabilitated into society, looking back on his glory days, and I'll stop here before any more hokey song titles creep in.
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 25th, 2002 9:00 PM.

Shit, I didn't actually answer the question did I. Sorry
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 25th, 2002 9:00 PM.

― bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

If something is owned by the type of person who goes mental about fingerprints on a jewel case then it is usually coffee-table. Vinyl is one thing, that's 'collectors', but jewel-cases, there's something seriously anal going on. (re Lemon Jelly - recommended to me once by somebody who 'read my aura' and then said VERY sternly, "You listen to a lot of metal. I can tell. It is not good for you. You need...hmmmm...Lemon Jelly. Eagle-Eye Cherry too.")
-- dave q (scrape10...), December 4th, 2003.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

anyone who tells dave q that metal isn't good for him needs to be taken out back and SHOT

― bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 14 December 2003 02:54 (twenty years ago) link

Use of the word 'anal' contributes to blind acceptance of bogus Freudian mythology that ppl seem to think is more valid than astrology for some reason.
dave q, March 29th 2003

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 14 December 2003 05:04 (twenty years ago) link

(Compare and contrast my own proclamation that henceforth the phrase 'politically correct' should be replaced by 'politically positioned', followed by my many uses of 'politically correct' and none of 'politically positioned'.)

(I would like to take this opportunity to recommend that 'back slapping' henceforth always be replaced by 'back assessment'.)

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 14 December 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

Momus - this thread is not about you.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 14:36 (twenty years ago) link

I think dave q was talking literal anuses in the latter quote.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

I wonder if he was being literal about progeny in his stylus magazine review. Somehow I think he'd care about parenting.

― youn, Monday, 15 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

"FREUD REVEALED TO BE PRETENTIOUS CRAP." Bless Dave for making that clear for the laypeople.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 15 December 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

seriously, the greatest thing he's done yet: http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1671

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 29 January 2004 07:34 (twenty years ago) link

nearly in tears after the first paragraph.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 January 2004 09:45 (twenty years ago) link

I nearly died when it landed in my inbox then other day.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 January 2004 10:05 (twenty years ago) link

If this is not included in the next Da Capo anthology then the world is dead.

― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 29 January 2004 10:11 (twenty years ago) link

I fear the world is dead.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Thursday, 29 January 2004 10:16 (twenty years ago) link

*still laughing* Ah, Mr. Q. You are a genius, sir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:04 (twenty years ago) link

dave q isnt David Quantick is he?

― unsure, Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Most assuredly not.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

Good god no!

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

ah. thank you.

― happy now, Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:06 (twenty years ago) link

I thought that at first as well....

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 January 2004 16:10 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...

Actually having sex = dud, it's getting to tell everybody you got some pussy that's cool.
-- dave q (scrape10...), July 30th, 2001 1:00 AM.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:19 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Hey newbie trolls! THIS is how it's done.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:08 (eighteen years ago) link

that Sugar Ray/Third Eye Blind thing still makes me fall out of my chair

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:09 (eighteen years ago) link

34 Hours without weed is damn solid throughout

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link

(Dave's posts are, I mean)

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 20 October 2005 07:22 (eighteen years ago) link

for instance,

I don't smoke alone by choice, I just wake up earlier than most people

-- dave q (scrape10...), January 31st, 2005. (listerine)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The A.M.’s debut is more Human Highway than V.G. though. That was the Neil Young flick with Devo as a radiation clean-up crew. The tracks here are a series of sneaks squirting symphonic curlicues onto a new-wave muffin tray with the doughy shit taken out for maximum thin-ness of tone and at its best reminds me very much of Cars tunes like “Dangerous Type” or “All Mixed Up”. Making a glam version of On the Beach is a great idea. Every dying off-interstate town has at least one resident who painted their nails once and never added another coat so they have chipped bluish residue on their fingers that looks like they slammed a car door on them.

Fucking brilliance.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

'Eliminator' itself proves that (electroclash) = (the New Rock) which also solves the 'indie trucker hat' thing, altho possibly not in a way the hipsters will necessarily like
-- dave q (scrape10...), June 18th, 2003.

― etc (esskay), Monday, 18 September 2006 07:45 (seventeen years ago) link

“Trangression” is a backhanded anti-indie construction revealing the Strokes and Flaming Lips as the same people

You're all right, that AM review quite simply shone (and had me in minor hysterics). I wish the dude posted more; I haven't really seen him about. :(

Shall now return to the infamous Absolution review with an open mind...

― Space Gourmand (Haberdager), Monday, 18 September 2006 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

dave q to be interviewed by ME and MARK S on the radio!!!

broadcasting this Tuesday on Resonance 104.4 FM at 10pm GMT

podcast to be available here --> http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 24 April 2008 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

this is GO

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 11:43 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

revive!!!!!

― geeta, Sunday, 12 June 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

KROKUS - Stayed Awake All Night

The Americans have spoken! The world will not be made smaller by computers but by grinding gears and great oil-burning engines. It’s not about security or secularisation, it’s about keeping the motorik running. The reason electronic pop music never became culturally dominant in the demonised heartland is that synth duos didn’t have large trucks loaded with equipment backing up to venues. The future was not designed by Kraftwerk but by Bachman-Turner Overdrive, although this 1983 BTO cover by a Swiss band incorporates “Metal on Metal”, except with volume-swell mirages evolving into a circular guitar pattern like the lights of the city coming into view after driving through the methamphetamine night. The DEA claims that “methamphetamine is attractive to people in rural communities because labs can be set up in abandoned barns”, when the real reason is that you have to drive about three hours to get anywhere! Those eerie green night-vision Iraq broadcasts are a good approximation of how rural people actually see things, especially during the nocturnal segments of their 96-hour days. The album this appears on is called ‘Headhunter’, and was apparently recorded at ‘Bee Jay Studios’!

--dave q, 2004

― geeta, Sunday, 12 June 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link

missed out on hearing sinker & dave q on the radio???? :(

ysi tracer?

― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2011 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

think you have been praising him for some time, geeta

i've enjoyed all these revives

― http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WhiteAmericanFolks.jpg (nakhchivan), Sunday, 12 June 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

^Yes

― brodie_odie_dope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2011 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

hey brodie - it's linked on this page (it's the story called "the red brain") -

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime/

― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 12 June 2011 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

got it thx Tracer

― symbol of the paramount chaos (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 12 June 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

re: http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime

dave q has a great voice. drawly and swaggering, like a literate garfield. id expected a sharp quick snappy voice, quite surprised

― NI, Monday, 1 August 2011 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

(from The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald...)

in a sea of weed/ where everyone/ would love to drown
― dave q, Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:17 (8 years ago)

― etc, Friday, 15 March 2013 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

From Molly Hatchet vs Lynyrd Skynyrd

I think Hatchet made a mistake when they switched producers from Frank Frazetta to Boris Vallejo. Thank God they never sunk to working with the brothrs Hildebrandt
― dave q, Friday, September 28, 2001 5:00 PM (11 years ago)

― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 31 May 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link

seriously though what happened to him? we were in touch for a while but that's a lifetime ago now, and he had the Virgin Killer piece in that Marooned book but where is Dave Q anyway

― Oral Sex in Sharp’s Ridge Park (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link

i assume he returned to the q continuum

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 31 May 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link

I'm in very irregular touch with one of his old bandmates, he might know.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 May 2013 03:36 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

DQ on ZZ Top's Mescalero

Todavia Tres Hombres
Filthier than a buck-nekked dip in the Rio Grande downstream from a maquiladora. Filthier (in every sense; there's even a "motherfucker") than XXX, which itself was better than anything to come out of Japan since Locust Abortion Technician, if not "You're Gonna Miss Me." And that's no slight on the honorable Japanese, compañeros. They made cars once, but maquiladora is the new "industry." To quote Pigface—"Welcome to Mexico . . . Asshole!"
Mescalero is structured like a blues show with really old guys—unsurprisingly as the ZZ arc = Stones arc reversed (i.e., Deguello/El Loco/Eliminator = Exile/Bleed/Beggars). Except ZZ aren't "done" yet. (Next album = Reconquista!) The new album's first third is Afterburner-type stuff (i.e., "chords"), except with vocoders. Daft? Zizi! Then just when you're resigned to another Afterburner the constant involuntary-volume-raising starts, and you're like "Master of Sparks" Jeb Bush cranking the lever up and down. Then they bring back Alfredo Garcia's head, then "Dusted" "combines IDM and rock" a lot more effectively than some other popular bands I could name, then you take the Alamo and bless it in the name of the tres hombres and Billy says (over a Don Brewer-type drum solo—that is the genius of this record in particular, in that the '80s bits are like being in the '80s except better, and the '70s bits are exactly like the '70s bits that everybody probably missed because they'd passed out by the time J. Geils or ARS or whoever was opening finished), "Bitch took my liquor."
Jesus was actually going to New Orleans to talk to Mr. Trafficante, by the way. Heard it on the (Camp)X(Ray), when I was swimming to Cuba. From Mozambique. ZZ Frelimo!? How do they know about all this shit that went down, anyway? Well I think it's something sinister. They were the bikers at the Capitol Altamont, and if you don't feed them their liquor'n'dust ("Piece": "gimme a piece . . . gimme a piece . . . of YER LUUUUUUUVE"), the reconquista promised since the foreboding Rio Grande Mud(whose cover shows them wading across it) is gonna be muy ugggly. Quite a lot of Mescalero is in Spanish, which leads me to believe it will play a major role in Project Eliminator in the bloody early days of New Aztlan. Viva la muerte!

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 08:37 (ten years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Why Gordon Lightfoot continues to captivate us so...

Here's another vote for "Sundown". Poke holes in the stereo speaker cone and you'll hear the missing link between VU and the Stones. Speaking of VU, "Edmund Fitzgerald" is a far more crushingly monolithic droney dirge than they (or Spacemen 3) ever managed, plus it's about Mother Ocean reclaiming us all (the gravitational response to Can that was later adopted by Parliament and Drexciya), proving that Canada has evolved a sophisticated strain of nature mysticism that matches that which appeared in Russia centuries earlier (though entirely dissimilar - N. American variety characterised by a) existential will-to-power v. elements ['manifest destiny' on macro level] b) problems/opportunities of testing Enlightenment emancipation on crucible of 'nature' in purest form [the realpolitik that passeth all understanding] whereas Russian variety = syncretic combination of Orthodox Christianity and Siberian folk traditions/survival strategies [i.e. 'culture'?])
― dave q, Monday, July 8, 2002 5:00 PM (11 years ago)

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 12 June 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

Defending the As-Yet-Undefended: The Manhattan Transfer

That album's "Java Jive" did for caffeine what VU did for heroin, therefore MT invented DC hardcore
― dave q, Friday, July 11, 2003 3:13 AM (11 years ago)

― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 18:01 (nine years ago) link

This can't be Dave, can it? Heavily edited?

http://www.cxmagazine.com/sscxwc-single-speed-portland-dave-queen

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 October 2014 21:33 (nine years ago) link

Really strongly doubt it.

― Westing (By Musket Anne Sexton) (get bent), Friday, 31 October 2014 09:08 (nine years ago) link

If that is Dave then well done for getting in shape!

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 31 October 2014 09:29 (nine years ago) link

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