TS: TLS vs LRB

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I want to buy a literary magazine. Which is bettah?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

LRB

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 17:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Buy this months Edge, it's all about video games.

jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 17:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

LRB.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

one great feature of the LRB is that when you sub to it you can give free six month subs to your pals. Everyone who gets a free sub to LRB ends up paying for a sub. By the end of 2004 everyone in the world will be an LRB subber.

The LRB takes a while to get into... you read a few issues and think "nyeh, it's alright". but then you can't live without it.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 20:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Just buy Bizzare. Porn and corpses, where else can you get that in one magazine?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 22:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

NYRB

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Two Lone Swordsmen vs. Least Common Denominator?

Leee (Leee), Thursday, 20 March 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'm with Sterl

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Thursday, 20 March 2003 00:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have already bought this month's Edge and my flatmate gets Bizarre. I am too parochial for the NYRB.

Why is LRB better? I think it probably is just because it has more interesting things on the front.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 March 2003 00:56 (twenty-one years ago) link


LRB is more interesting, better-written and more intelligent. What more could I say?

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Thursday, 20 March 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

TLS has: rub. art direction.

LRB has: Michael Wood. Good personals page. Iain Sinclair going nuts every now and again.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 20 March 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

LRB's personals page is worth the sub on its own.

Clare (not entirely unhappy), Thursday, 20 March 2003 05:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

You can read LRB on line if you want to. NYRB = ZZZ.

Mary (Mary), Thursday, 20 March 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah I have started LRB recently after all the links that ILXORS make to the website. I like it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 20 March 2003 10:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I had a letter published in the LRB about comics, so it is obviously a very good magazine.

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 20 March 2003 11:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

But Ewing doesn't want to meet a new woman - he has a fiancee already!

the pinefox, Thursday, 20 March 2003 13:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

LRB has really good poems, greer, tolbin, sinclair, hitchens all write for them, it deals with art history in a really clever way, often it is drily ironic, and well its ace.

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 20 March 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Bookforum is good.

s woods, Thursday, 20 March 2003 20:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

seven months pass...
What about the LRB's Christmas Personals: they are going to be DRAWINGS with no words.

I was (after) thinking of the frolic it would be to draw a picture of (meself) and sending it in (there) but then

a) £20??

b) I don't want to fall into the category of people who 'take out' "Personal Ads".

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:31 (twenty years ago) link

LRB. it was set up during the strikebreaking era at the times by narked TLSoxrs i think. anyway, the tls has a bug up its ass.

enrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
Surprised and pleased to note today: ILx's own nude jogger, Dazzling Dave Boyle, finally sharing column space with the Slovenian Slugger, Slavoj Zizek, on the letters page of the new LRB!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 10 August 2006 10:16 (seventeen years ago) link

boyle > zizek

Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, 10 August 2006 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, Boyle trumps Zizek any day - any day, any day. If only he would not proclaim himself Zizek's disciple! It should be the other way around.

Is Boyle writing about Norwegian detective fiction, and Zizek about York City FC's struggle with the receivers?

I have not seen the issue yet.

the pinefox (the pinefox), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:47 (seventeen years ago) link

three years pass...

The LRB have put on every single issue on their webpage. Lucked out on a (free) one year subscription that's just come through, making my way through William Empson's two parter on Ulysses from '84. Interesting to see who has contributed to it over the years...George Steiner and erm Gordon Brown.

Pretty fantastic resource: articles on many writers I have been reading/discovering this year: Musil, Proust, Pessoa, Sarraute etc etc. I have no inclination to spend time reading literary biographies, but am interested enough to read critical commentaries/translational issues with bits of bio/context over essay length, oh yeah (many of the essays do much more than that)

As to the question the LRB has a way wider range than the TLS, but its not as if the TLS doesn't have anything of interest on their pages - always worth a look.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 November 2009 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

pretty recent convo between roy and becky in the cafe on coronation street had me howling.

becky (staring into space w/ pensive expresssion): "Roy, you know what i don't get?"

Roy: The London Review of Books?

jed_, Monday, 2 November 2009 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Lolz I'm guessing its their 30th anniversary tribute

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 November 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article6999923.ece

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 January 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Has the LRB come clean on this now? And if so, why?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 January 2010 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

"the LRB is also known for its political views — notably its anti-American stance"

gosh that's blunt.

lords of hyrule (c sharp major), Monday, 25 January 2010 10:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Of course the Times has absolutely no vested interest in this story.

Neil S, Monday, 25 January 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

This weirdly makes me like the LRB more.

The New Dirty Vicar, Monday, 25 January 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

this confirms that i want to take out a subscription, which i was actually considering doing this week anyway.

jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Why have none of us managed to get articles published in the LRB?

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link

www.ilxor.com

kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Got commissioned & spiked once. Think they paid ok for that.

Sort of love this story. That is an awes way to blow the family fortune.

Parenthetic hound (woofwoofwoof), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Got commissioned & spiked once. Think they paid ok for that.

FUNNILY ENOUGH this (the second half of this) happened to me today. not THAT funny, but i guess the deal is get paid & don't complain. (im sure i've aired my views on its atrocious film coverage elsewhere on the board.)

free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Commiserations on the spike. I found it annoying, given some of what I've read there over the years, but I should hit them up again; it's about the only place here with both prestige & space.

Michael Wood At The Movies is sort of consistently breathtaking. Sometimes he doesn't even seem to understand the story of a film.

Parenthetic hound (woofwoofwoof), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

cheers. we get back on the horse innit. "funnily enough" woody contributed a jacket-quote to the book wot i (entirely justifiably) trashed. in all fairness i don't think he'd read it.

free the charmless but occasionally brilliant Dom Passantino (history mayne), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I find Michael Wood's film articles pretty annoying - he has never heard of the concept of "spoilers", and often seems to just summarise the plot of the film.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I sent a letter into the LRB once. They did not pay me, but they did print it.

The New Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

can't be worse than philip french, surely?

xpost

jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

The LRB gets a 20K from the arts council: some right-wing journal was complaining about that, but I haven't googled it.

re: Michael Wood I always feel there is a missed opportunity: he reviewed Eyes Wide Shut in conjuction with the Novella its based on, and his account of difference and similarities (and their effects) was pretty good. The actual film revs on their own are a bit thin.
His archive is great tho'. Was reading this really nice article on Bunuel last weekend.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Also they never really try to cover other arts: Peter Campbell doing the Michael Wood role for the visual arts, only one film rev, almost nothing for music or theatre.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

not really a frequent reader of either but through twitter i ended up reading a tls article about a supposed meeting between dostoevsky and dickens which rapidly morphs into this amazing detective story about the hoax, its origins and the guy behind it all. i'm a sucker for stories like these and this one is quite crazy, reminded me a bit of the 2666 part about the search for the elusive author (clearly my memory of that book is very fuzzy). anyways did anybody else read it and enjoy it? might have been mentioned on another thread i missed?

also, this is one of 4 TS: tls vs lrb threads, it's kind of hilarious to see the almost exact same thread name show up in search.

oh and the link to the story:
http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1243205.ece

Jibe, Monday, 15 April 2013 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

yes! read this a few days ago, amazing story.

woof, Monday, 15 April 2013 12:57 (eleven years ago) link

there is something absolutely fascinating to me that this man just kept writing things about various topics, creating new aliases and casually dropping huge things in his writings. the article doesn't get the answer to this but i'd be curious to know if harvey wanted his hoaxes to be picked up by people or if he was just content making up all those things

Jibe, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

i get the feeling there was a kind of virtuosic self-satisfaction about the whole process, like in his head he's casting himself as neglected genius, weaving a fleet-footed jig around the dryasdusts of the academy & pygmies of modern fiction - I would guess his favoured outcome is being recognised by posterity rather than some dude in the TLS.

woof, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Basically he's a Nabokov character

woof, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:43 (eleven years ago) link

(and to visit thread-title-topic - the article is maybe a bit sluggishly written & holds back a bit too much - LRB might have been a better home for it - editing's sharper & they're willing to play lively.)

woof, Monday, 15 April 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

there is def self-satisfaction about the whole process, the guy writes an article comparing one of his unknown novels to that of one written by doris lessing! one of the things that i found extremely enjoyable is how he uses a different alias to dismiss his own work as being incorrect or insufficient, while still managing to declare it not devoid of a certain interest (that whole passage about "the harvey theory").
as for the writing i don't read either of those often enough to be able to state on which would have edited it better but i do agree that at times it is written a bit laboriously.

Jibe, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

yes this is one of the best things i read all year

max, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

i mean i have a bunch of edit quibbles but the material is so ace

max, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 19:22 (eleven years ago) link

feel like a d harvey should come hang on ilx, teach us about socks done proper.

woof, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

i agree with whoever said above the right answer was NYRB, but then LRB but I am allowed to enjoy all of em

H in Addis, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

Basically he's a Nabokov character

― woof

My first thought was Pessoa, but yeah. Amazing article.

etc, Tuesday, 16 April 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

so impressed with this article. creating all those characters and having them interact must make him so _happy_. i'm sort of jealous.

Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

By his own count, since receiving his PhD from Cambridge he has applied for around 700 university positions in Britain, but has been invited for interview only eight times. (This lack of success in the British academic job market has perhaps confirmed him in his staunchly critical view of the hiring and promotion processes to be found in most English universities.)

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

that seems a strikingly poor ratio for someone with a cambridge phd

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link

what has he been doing wrong huh?

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 2 May 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link

700 university positions in britain?

caek, Thursday, 2 May 2013 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

doesn't that seem strange? given that some of those were probably 30/40 years ago when the number of positions/applications must have been fewer and a 1%~ interview rate seems unfeasibly low for some random provincial university appointment

the letter about grammar/public schoolboys written during his own undergraduate days suggests he is of a certain type given to a resentful life on the periphery of institutions, who in the ferment of the late 60s was still caught up in the internecine cultural politics of an earlier era, crankishness a self fulfilling prophecy leading to further estrangements and nurtured grievances

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:04 (eleven years ago) link

i do enjoy this sort of literary sleuthing but given that the initial dostoevsky hoax was quite engaging and in any event fairly harmless, it's saddening to find out how useless and shitty his other escapades have been

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Thursday, 2 May 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link


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