Grown so ugly.

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I just realized that my mid-20s have not been kind to me. I've never been terribly good-looking, but neither have I been notably bad-looking. But lately I can't seem to lose weight; I've gained a double-chin that's impossible to hide, and neither is my gut that easy to suck in anymore; my skin has gotten splotchy and red; whenever I shave, I get terrible razor burn and bumps on my neck that won't go away (I started using an electric razor but that isn't really helping); and I no longer have any knack for buying clothes that look good on me--or maybe it's just that no matter what I guy it won't make me look skinny. I don't know what's happened exactly. It's exasperating and makes me want to hide in a corner. It certainly means I'm spending more nights at home than previously. haven't the heart to ask anyone if they agree that I'm heading toward the ugly bin, nor am I sure my friends would give me an honest answer if I did. Sometimes I'm fatalistic about it and accept growing ugly as a function of growing old, but--I'm not old yet! I'm only 25! I don't want to spend the rest of my life as a troll!

Um, here's the thread where you complain about your looks having gone to seed. Also, exercise tips for someone who works 50 hours a week and takes classes another 8 hours and can't afford to join a gym. And,um, er beauty tips for those with razor burn problems.

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really needed to moan. I'm sure this will get no answers, and I'll be horribly embarrassed by it in a moment.

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

razor burn: i avoid this by applying rubbing alcohol to my skin immediately afterwards and then moisturising. guys who don't moisturise after shaving are FOOOOOLS

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

That just makes it worse! Anything I put on my skin after shaving (exc. cold water) just STINGS and makes it redder.

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

Amateruist, I keep meaning to work out while I watch the Simpsons. That's 30 min a day at least! Try that for starters. . .

That Girl (thatgirl), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

How do you work out? Like sit-ups? One problem is that I have raging insomnia--I rarely get more than 4 or 5 hours of sleep a night, sometimes less than that. And I rarely get home before 7 PM any given night, and by the time I get home I'm totally exhausted.

I think I should fix my bike and start riding it.

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have you tried shaving with oil instead of gel or foam? My husband used to get a really bad rash and bumps after shaving. He now uses a shaving oil with added aloe vera and it seems to have done the trick. He's passed the tip on to a few of his friends who had the same problem shaving and they have said it helps.

Saskia, Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Exercise tips: walking for at least 45 minutes a day, only three days a week WITHOUT increasing your food consumption, will cause you to lose a pound a week. Think about it, you could lose a stone in just over three months. I don't mean to go on about it, but I lost 3 stone in a year. Put on your walkman and you don't notice it. Really.

Oh, and the increased serotonin production that walking will induce, plus the helpful effects of physical exhaustion will do wonders for that insomnia. There's a difference between mental exhaustion (the kind you get from working) and physical. If you walk, you will notice your energies level rise markedly.

kate (suzy), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh my god, what have I done? I've opened the floodgates to my whining. It's very unbecoming. I probably should ask for this thread to be deleted. Moderators?

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Kate gives very good advice! Stop doubting yourself and listen to her.

jonas lefrel (jonas lefrel), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh: I still don't think I really know how to shave. I didn't grow up with a dad who could show me how to shave, so when I started using a razor I was just kind of winging it, and because my neck is really bumpy I was left with a million small nicks after every shave, which of course made everything worse. So after a few years of that, I went back to an electric razor. But to get a close shave from that I have to press down hard and that leaves my skin more bumpy and more red. I'm so confused. (Sob.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Maybe it's time to give Nad's some consideration.

jonas lefrel (jonas lefrel), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Weight:

Always eat something in the morning. The sooner you eat and exercise, the sooner you start burning calories. If you drink soda, switch to diet. If you eat chips, switch to pretzels.

Walk to things when you can, if you normally drive and walking is practical; you're more likely to stick with habits which incidentally include exercise than exercise for its own sake. And if you wake up slowly, that's a good time to get some basic exercises (situps, pushups, knee bends, simple weights, whatever -- situps would probably be best) in, cause you won't be awake enough yet to resent it :)

Worked for me.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Have you tried simply changing the direction of your shave stroke? I have to shave in the direction of the hair (instead of the advised against-the-grain) or I get bumps. It's not as close a shave, but I don't care.

Use very hot water to prep your face before shaving; this is important. Use gels/foams/aftershave balms with no alcolhol, fragrance or preservatives (try the specialty grocery stores obv.)

You could just have extremely sensitive skin, of course.

Aaron A., Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do NOT switch to diet soda. People who switch to nutrasweet products generally gain weight. It is a health risk. Switch to juices and water, and walk more places.

jonas lefrel (jonas lefrel), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

agreed. stay away from carbonated stuff in general.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

I never used to believe "very hot water" was as important as people say, until I tried it -- and yep, I'll second that. I don't have particular trouble with shaving as far as cuts and all, but just putting a hot wet towel against my face for maybe half a minute before shaving has made shaving much quicker and easier, and the only time my face itches now is if I'm in a rush and put cologne on right away.

Oh, and unless there's some very new research -- nutrasweet is only a health risk if you're drinking loads of it. If you're drinking loads of soda, that's a problem right there -- switching to juice isn't likely to help with weight loss since many juices have the same calorie count anyway.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 23 March 2003 22:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Even better - get a fogless mirror and put it in your shower. The steam generated from the hot water functions as a good moisturizer for yr skin.

Or so I've heard.

mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Diet soda is satan. Drink lots of water (even juice normally has lots of sugar). Try not to eat late at night. Eat smaller portions, less starches, more fruits and veggies. Eat slower, until you are no longer hungry, not until you are full. And one day a week eat whatever the hell you want.

Carey (Carey), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Carey's right - portion control is a big part of it too. Two-for-ones at the supermarket:me :: garlic:vampires.

jonas lefrel (jonas lefrel), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, hot water helps open the pores and makes the whole process easier. Also splashing with cold water when you've finished helps close them again. But using shaving oil puts a protective layer over your skin and allows the razor to glide much more easily over the surface, ensuring least amount of damage to the skin, therefore less rash, nicks and bumps (apparently!)

Saskia, Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah for some reason in the last decade or 2 we have been used to wanting more for our money to include food. So portions in restaurants are enough for 2 people and we think that is the norm.

I love how this thread alternates between shaving techniques and diet advice.

Carey (Carey), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

shave with fruit and eat more hot water and gel!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

make sure the bristles are softened! the hot water, the soap/gel whatever...it needs to be worked before you start.
(i'm lucky i don't have to worry. i will never grow ugly. i always have been)

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

If you have a girly friend you may want to ask her to go shopping with you for products. Granted, you only need soap and water to maintain good skin, but other stuff helps. I've made boyfriends get in the routine of washing the face, moisturizing with kiehls, facial once a week, conditioning the hair, drinking lots of water. I am a total chicktator.

Carey (Carey), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's funny, cos I've always found being ugly didn't need any growing into at all. It was just there.

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

The only shaving tip I'd offer is using a moisturiser afterwards - not some alcohol-based aftershave that burns and stings, just basic moisturiser, which cools and soothes and seems to ease the lumpiness. I have no dieting advice for anyone.

I have a terrible diet and do no exercise, and although I don't put on fat, I am a horrible shape. I have a big belly. It's not fat - I've had two explanations for it, both relating to my very bad asthma. One suggested that years and years of forcing the diaphragm more and more pushed the belly out, the other points out that steroids give people bulging bellies, which is fact, and I've been on substantial doses of steroidal asthma drugs for over thirty years. An odd side effect is that when I get ill I lose weight and my stomach gets bigger! Then I get better, and put weight on, my stomach shrinks back and people tell me I've lost weight.

I have lots of other very unattractive aspects too - legs so short it's nearly freakish, very protruding ears, a nose that underwent three operations when I was a kid, so that I could breathe through it, that looks as if it was badly broken, toes that are only gradually recovering from a mother who knew best and ignored me when I said shoes were too small, so they became curled down and inwards like a claw. I expect I've forgotten a few things too. The only thing that has become worse as my years have advanced (and I am of course far older than Amateurist) is that my jaw's become a bit saggy and my hair is receding and thinning a lot. It makes for a pretty damned unattractive whole.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Martins self deprecation is the benchmark for us uglies.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

But what have I said that isn't true? Most of that is factual, though some of it is admittedly opinion.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

When these things come up on ILE you seem so relentlessly merciless with yourself. I try to avoid analysing my unattractiveness.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'd like to avoid it myself. You are right, to a degree. I'm not great looking, but I've had enough attractive people show that they find me attractive that I know, objectively, I can't be as ugly as I think I am. Without wishing to start whining, I think that growing up with a mother constantly telling me that I was worthless and that no one would ever want me, and so on, through my whole childhood, probably did give me self esteem issues. There are areas where I've proved, in some way or other, some worth (intellectually especially - getting to Cambridge, scoring over 200 on an IQ test), but this is one not susceptible to such measurement.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

over 200? f**kin hell.

gaz (gaz), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, but this is just an IQ test, let us remember - this to me is evidence of just how useless they are. My two extremes are 163 and 210 (and three other scores in the 180s) - 47 points difference! Something is surely horribly wrong there. These were all either Mensa or Eysenck tests, by the way.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

my skin has gotten splotchy and red

Sounds to me like it's my own personal nemesis, rosacea. It's probably not a bad idea to see a dermatologist about that and the razor burns.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 23 March 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Martin is a hunk and he know's it. (I'm serious BTW, you really are a very attractive man)

As for shaving, try shaving from the bottom up, just pull the skin real tight first. It's difficult to explain but involves reaching over your head with your free hand and pulling at loose skin.

As for exercise, let me know if you find something that works. I detest sport/exercise, I really thought I'd never have to bother. Until a year ago I was freakishly skinny - gave up smoking and put on like 2-3 stone. People ask if I've been working out or tell me I look good, but I just look down at my belly and think urgghh - fat twat.
I know I must do something before I lose sight of my feet.

Simeon (Simeon), Monday, 24 March 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think I locate my unattractiveness right now in the weight I've put on in my face (and everywhere, but esp. in my face). I just can't carry it well; if I hold my head at odd angles my chin kind of creeps up like the ugly thing it is. My jawbones have gone all soft where once they were rather nice, I think. Historically my weight goes back and forth pretty wildly--in school I ranged from 170 to 200 pounds. I've rarely had any kind of diet regimen--and when I have I haven't necessarily lost any weight. My weight tends to fluctuate either by its own unfathomable cycles or by my emotions (f'rinstance when I was ecstatically happy c. spring/summer 1995 I lost about 20 pounds). But even as my weight continues to go up and down, the average sort of creeps up. I could stand to lose about 40 lbs now, maybe more. The problem is that my daily habits are total chaos, because of a lack of self-discipline and working too late. I eat out way too much. I rarely actually sit down and prepare a real dinner, as I noted upthread I never get any sleep (I compulsively, self-destructively stay up until all hours of the morn seemingly every night). I end up so incredibly tired in the morning that a few days a week, every week, I oversleep my two (!) alarms and end up rushing to get a cab to go to work--which is more than I can afford. Obv. on those days I either skip breakfast or grab an apple on the way out. So to keep on some kind of diet regimen, however simple and low-key, I need to keep my daily habits under control.

I need to get back to using a regular razor; this electric shaver is just a mess. I'll buy myself a new razor and try some of the advice given upthread. Sometimes I'm tempted to grow a beard and be done with it, but I hate wearing a beard. Any advice for razors to buy for someone with a really rough beard and sensitive skin?

When I was living with other folks I was more self-aware and my habits weren't so out of whack. Living alone gives me too much room to indulge my laziness.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 March 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Any advice for razors to buy for someone with a really rough beard and sensitive skin?

yeah this is important, too: use a double- or triple-blade razor, all tarted up with lubri-strips and whisker-erecting fins and stuff. Like a Gillette Sensor or MACH III. Just avoid single blade, plastic disposables like the plague.

Aaron A., Monday, 24 March 2003 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

i use cheap disposable bics. for some weird reason they are fantastic!

gaz (gaz), Monday, 24 March 2003 00:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mach IIIs roxor.

Although 'shaving with fruit' also seems like pretty U&K advice.

mark p (Mark P), Monday, 24 March 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Razors seem to be one of those areas where you really can say "well, this one costs more, so it's better." At least that was always my experience -- I worked my way up the price ladder until I was finally getting the shave I wanted. I used the Mach III, if I remember right; doing that hot water thing let me switch to disposable Bics and I still get a closer shave than I was getting before, which once again just shows you how much a difference the hot water makes.

Oh, and dispose of the blade when it needs to be disposed -- no matter how good the razor is, a dull blade is a dull blade, and that especially makes a difference since you have a rough beard.

Didn't we have a shaving thread? I think ILE is where I picked up the hot water thing.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 24 March 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have to shave in the direction of the hair (instead of the advised against-the-grain)

It's not advised! You're doing it right. (see 'Barcelona')

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 24 March 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

enjoy your decline. it's the only reasonable response.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link


Living alone gives me too much room to indulge my laziness.

I've bought one of those self-assembly abdominizing gyms for 30 bucks, taken up badminton classes, cut way back on beer and started a banana-only diet.

What more can a man do?

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Monday, 24 March 2003 02:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

What more can a man do?

give up. no, not really.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:00 (twenty-one years ago) link


Yeah well, that as well.

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I shave in the shower. I did this in college and while it wasn't as option in basic training I did go right back to it ASAP. I rub hot water on my face and then go to it with my Mach 3. The day I feel it even begin to pull I change blades. I do have very fine hair , but it's coarse around my neck and lips and I used to get bumps. I haven't used shaving cream in years and years, or any other prep treatment. I don't use alcohol/aftershave either - I think that bcz I do it first thing in the shower, the hot water does a similar job.

I work out 3 days a week or every other day depending on time constraints on my own laziness factor. Lately I haven't been because preparing dinner and learning statistics have been occupying my time. But I just do one or two sets of calisthenics, flutter kicks, pushups, diamond pushups, crunches (situps are bad!) and reverse pushups. Lots of stretching.

I don't gain weight, though, because my metabolism is a rocket. So no help there. But staying toned is just a matter of giving a shit, it really is. You can always find 30 minutes to chop out of your day and once you get into a rhythm it's pretty easy to warm up, burn yourself out and warm down even within that brief timspan.

Flutter kicks are your friend.

Millar (Millar), Monday, 24 March 2003 03:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

What are flutter kicks? Squats, bridges, crunches (with some variation), pushups and reverse pushups are great. I do squats at odd times--I'll do some if I'm alone on the elevator, or brushing my teeth or something. Just here and there, really regularly, when I find myself alone and standing there for whatever reason. It adds up.

For moisturising after shaving--Cetaphil cream is excellent for sensitive skin. It's the only stuff I can use that doesn't sting like hell when I have razor burn on my legs. I use it on my face too, though if you don't have extremely dry skin you'd probably want the lotion. Good moisturisers are sometimes more expensive, but worth it. Aveeno lotion is another really good, gentle moisturiser. I have used every fucking moisturiser ever for my superdry, sensitive skin, and those two are the best IMO.

It's easy to get critical/overaware of appearance stuff, especially if your appearance has changed. But you probably don't look as bad as you think you do. With friends of mine that complain about weight gain, sometimes I don't even notice until they point it out. Even then, it always seems to me that they look just fine.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 24 March 2003 04:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Flutter kicks - lie down on your back. put your arms flat by your sides so that your palm is on the floor by your hip. lift both legs off the floor about six inches or more. Without letting either foot drop closer to the floor or touch it, alternate lifting each foot about one foot into the air or higher, without bending your knees. Depending on yr ratio of weight between yr upper and lower body you may want to change the position of your arms.

Do as many as you can stand, obviously. Back at my peak I think my cycle was thus:

1. superman crunches (lie facedown, lift up your head and put yr arms out in front, then use yr lower back to pull yr upper body off the ground)
1. reverse pushups
2. flutter kicks
3. pushups
4. crunches
5. diamond pushups (save the worst for last)

Millar (Millar), Monday, 24 March 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

ah, okay. i do some similar exercises. you have to be careful to flatten yr lower back to the floor so as not to strain it (or modify the exercise until you're strong enough to have proper form). that's really great for lower abs, and more interesting than reverse crunches.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Monday, 24 March 2003 04:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

no, seriously, enjoy your decline.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 04:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know this is the kind of complaint that gets people slapped, buuuut...although I'm obvs glad that genetics have been kind to me in allowing me to retain a somewhat youthful visage, I'm getting to an age where I think it's almost more of a hindrance in a lot of ways. Like, people don't generally assume that I'm in my mid-30s (the fact that I'm a pretty little dude also plays a role there, I'm sure), so I tend to get treated as if I were a kid a lot of the time. Not that my general demeanor does much to disabuse them of that notion. But still. I wouldn't mind some outward sign of my years of hardship already. I'm legit about to start buying rumpled old suits and dressing like Burroughs until the rest of me catches up.

Um... Oh, I'm also bald! Totally rockin' the toilet seat hair. That's pretty gross, right? Eww! I can own that.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 24 June 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link

Also apparently she wasn't dead at the time! Boy did I misunderstand that. She just allowed her stuff to be shown.

you're in the club and the light hits your ass like pow (Laurel), Friday, 24 June 2011 03:59 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man - I LOVE HER.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

That lady is beautiful

*floods world w/tears* (Abbbottt), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link

u + k blog:
http://advancedstyle.blogspot.com/

gr8080, Friday, 24 June 2011 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

!!!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

Deric, I'm 40 and I still get treated like I was a kid. It doesn't get any better with age.

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Friday, 24 June 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

I remember silently rolling my eyes at Amateurist during this thread's original incarnation. Sorry Amst!

Virginia Plain, Friday, 24 June 2011 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

this is my favorite captain beefheart song I think

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 24 June 2011 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

I think I have the opposite of this problem btw so I'll stop posting

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 24 June 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

are you getting hotter and hotter? that is a serious problem.

horseshoe, Friday, 24 June 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

portrait of dorian gray shit

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 24 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

I think my body just grew into itself tbh

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 24 June 2011 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Oh god, where did I leave my collagen last night?

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

Is it possible to be ugly and not spend your every waking hour obsessing how much you hate the way you look? Would like to hear from anyone who has managed to pull this off.

that is how ghosts laugh (bends), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

This revive brought to you by contemplating the 'what celebrity do you look like' thread and not being bale to think of any plausible candidates who don't make me want to never leave the house again.

that is how ghosts laugh (bends), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, the modicum of dignity that I'm holding onto right now is a product of a very strained imagination.

how's life, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

Is it possible to be ugly and not spend your every waking hour obsessing how much you hate the way you look? Would like to hear from anyone who has managed to pull this off.

― that is how ghosts laugh (bends)

well i look a lot like the guy in that cartoon (thanks for that) but i do find that being fuckin awesome in most other ways gets me through the day quite nicely tbh

his LIPS !!! (darraghmac), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

The sooner I can ditch these looks, the sooner I can start developing an even remotely engaging personality.

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link

"i do find that being fuckin awesome in most other ways gets me through the day quite nicely tbh"

yeah, I think this is where I'm going wrong.

that is how ghosts laugh (bends), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

I'm wondering if I'm ever going to have that slightly reddened, slightly grizzled facial skin some people seem to get between the soft period and the wrinkled period

cardamon, Sunday, 15 September 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

ugly applies to attitudes, not looks.

it's brutal being yr own worst critic, true - i think you shd consider the real possibility that nobody else looks at your face the same way you do, or sees it that way either.

Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2013 09:08 (ten years ago) link

it's best not to even think about this stuff. i do though, "god i'm an ugly cunt" is usually the phrase in my mind. hopefully i don't actually believe it.

nv otm tho, best to ignore these voices.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Sunday, 15 September 2013 09:20 (ten years ago) link

LOL at me @ 25yo

it's only been downhill this past decade

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 15 September 2013 09:29 (ten years ago) link

Is it possible to be ugly and not spend your every waking hour obsessing how much you hate the way you look? Would like to hear from anyone who has managed to pull this off.

idk so long as i'm not faced with a mirror or a photograph it's pretty easy to let something else occupy the forefront of my mind, admittedly this does mean that seeing my face is always something of a shock

i've lost so much hair that my face is going bald

obi wankin' obi (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 15 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

is there a nutritional supplement to help reduce puffy face syndrome

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 15 September 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

xxp i'm always (unpleasantly) surprised at how i look in photos in the same way one's voice seems weird when heard it on a recording.

fit and working again, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

gr8080 lay off all booze, dairy, corn, soy and drink more water. My old supervisor researched and saw "experts" and was told this. After several months on a new diet, there were noticeable improvements.

*tera, Monday, 16 September 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

oh my god, i am struggling with my looks. lost 37 pounds over the last two years so i'm now only like ten pounds overweight, but i can't lose weight in my face and neck without quitting smoking cigarettes...the weirdest thing--i must be the only person for whom smoking makes bloat up. cannot bear to use a current picture on dating sites until i don't look like a jowly walrus above the chest. my build is actually pretty good but i've never met anyone who takes worse pictures. my face is like a big mushy pile of custard...

Iago Galdston, Monday, 16 September 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

something about september/summer turning to autumn that sends my jowl growth in to overdrive

╲╱\/╲/\╱╲╱\/\ (gr8080), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:19 (nine years ago) link

Did you wake up this morning,
Look at yourself in the mirror and say
Ah, gr9080, this ain't me?

Code Money Changes Everything (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

I caught a reflection of the bags under my eyes in the LRT this morning that made me wonder if I'd been awake for 2 weeks solid.

a guy named Christian White who represents the typical white Christian (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 September 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link

FaceTime has been real bad for my facial self esteem

arthur treacher, or the fall of the british empire (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:01 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Is anyone else actually getting better looking as they age?

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Friday, 24 June 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

fuck yeah, it's awesome

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, 24 June 2016 16:56 (seven years ago) link

ikr

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Friday, 24 June 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

I think I'm getting better looking as I age. Mostly by being extremely sedentary/unfit in my 20s, I set the bar really low as far as looks go. I'm certainly getting gray/wrinkles and years of sun exposure are showing up, but I think in general I'm feeling good. Confidence and being in relatively good health help that a lot.

Jeff, Friday, 24 June 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

high-five!

those photos are a good basis for comparison as you are making the exact same expression in both. also, photo 1 should be made into a dealwithit.gif

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Friday, 24 June 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

It's awesome how as I get further away from the metabolic damage done by a couple years on Risperdal as a teenager- why, sure, it's FANTASTIC for social phobia!- and find better information about how to take care of myself (because I live alone and rarely hang out with anyone more than once a month) all the positive effects are essentially undone by the effects of aging so I work myself to the fucking bone but still look like an unfuckable human potato

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 25 June 2016 03:08 (seven years ago) link

Also I am super fucking hammered if that was not obvious.

PROTIP for hanging out with an ex and discussing how amazingly their new relationship is: DO NOT THIS

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 25 June 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link

I feel like I'm at least breaking even as I age and possibly getting better looking on account of not really having has any concept of fitness until at least my early twenties and then very gradually getting better and more serious about working out. I had a few years of decline after the kids were born, but around last August I reintroduced a pretty fierce gym habit and also started seriously lifting for the first time in my life, which I feel like has made me look stronger and more manly than I used to and given me more presence.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Saturday, 25 June 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

kind of a wash for me -- I am more comfortable in my skin, but less comfortable in my clothes, perhaps because perpetual ongoing low-grade student poverty means that the only new additions to my wardrobe in the last ~5 years have been gifts from mom. I like to imagine that I will eventually look quite dashing in a suit, though!

You're talmbout one of the best PLURs of all time (bernard snowy), Saturday, 25 June 2016 03:32 (seven years ago) link

Got into- not an argument, but a discussion w/ ex trying to explain to her I was taking a short break from OKCupid, Tinder, etc while I worked on losing weight- doing a 12-week calorie cut to try and drop 15-ish pounds, at least. How am I suppsoed to react to being told it doesn't matter, people will like you whatever, etc when seriously I have been somewhere between slight to worryingly overweight ever since I got started on antidepressants when I was about 12? It's basically impossible to explain to people who were attractive in their teens/20s/etc, but basically I hate my body as it is now and as it has ever been and I want to burn that shit to the fucking ground. Why is it vanity or cowardice to want to take some time out and work on myself so I can not have fucking tits at least once before Im' 40?

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 25 June 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

In a few years I am certain that people will be remarking at how dapper and handsome I look as I lie in my coffin.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 25 June 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link

The mourners, of course will be lying rather more pleasantly (see what I did there?).

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 25 June 2016 04:10 (seven years ago) link


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