We really don't care about theatre do we?

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People hardly ever talk about theatre on ILE. There isn't even a Culture:Theatre category. Is this a sign that it really is an art form whose relevance is dying? Or just that it's intriniscally hard to talk about on a global forum like this, performances being site and time specific?

Do you go much / at all?

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 6 April 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I noticed that too.

Last month I've been to a Proust theatre adaptation.
My favorite shows are from Pina Bausch, Alain Platel en Jerome Bel.
I was more interested in dance-theatre than in plays really.

I think modern/contemporary dance is no big issue here either tho.

erik, Sunday, 6 April 2003 14:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

But Erik, one of the best Mark S moments was his attempt to talk about a modern dance thing Dr Vick took him to. He came up with "It's like Blake's Seven, but a different kind of silliness," which I loved.

In the four years I've lived in London, I've been to the theatre once. My last girlfriend (the Italian one who I talked about here some) worked for Amnesty, and got free tickets. We went to one things together. She offered me some more freebies this week in fact, for that new Tommy Cooper tribute that stars wossname Jerome out of Robson and, which I'm sure isn't at all an attempt to cash in on the success of the Morecambe & Wise tribute. I didn't think I could stand two hours of looking at a fool do an impersonation of my all-time favourite funny man.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 April 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, there are at least two musicals threads. Haven't seen much talk about plays.

I am interested in musicals up to and including (some of) Sondheim, from a pop, maybe even rock 'n roll, perspective. But as a phenomenon today, I think there's little to talk about because they have almost nothing to do with changes in culture. I don't know if that's a cause or effect of their audience (at least in New York) - very old people and tourists.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 6 April 2003 16:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I got dragged to Les Miserables once, about ten years ago. It was just okay, but I wasn't mad about it. But I used to have a habit of going to stuff with people who didn't want to go on their own.

Being a social outcast has some advantages, then!

ChristineSH (chrissie1068), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

erik digibeet post here!!

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

I used to do theatre, as a teenager and in college. By "do" I mean I was part of a small theatre company, as an actor, writer, director, ass't director, production-type-person, lighting/sound person, propmaster, etc. And after college I worked in the business office of a ticket agency that specialized in New York theatre -- so I got to see a lot of Broadway and off-Broadway shows for free. My most recent exposure to that world was in 2001, when I was dating a critic who would let me be his plus-one whenever he had to review some piece-of-shit play.

But no, I really don't care about theatre. Not that much.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've seen two pieces of theatre in the last month.

Thus I am "sophisticated."

slutsky (slutsky), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I was hoping when Nory was here that there'd be a bit more dance stuff.

I don't see any theater at all, really. I've not even been able to keep up with film for the past few years, and at some point I gave up even trying; theater's unfortunately even a step below that in priorities.

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

There are two productions in NY right now that i want to see, The Blacks from the Harlem Theater Company and Fucking A on Broadway, you know the reworking of

edmonton theater is really vivid and i try to see one a month, but it is prohibtivley expensive.

anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Yeah, Nabisco, what happened to Nory? I liked her. Can you lure her back, please?)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 April 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Seconded.)

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nory is megafanfab! And a grand person. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

The whole "realism" thing is still being worked out. I think film overtook theater in this dept sometime around the New Wave and theater's still going through spasms trying to deal with it. I don't really go that much. We don't talk about theater here because we'd it's not mass-distributed so we don't have common events or artifacts to anchor a discussion. We'd all have to be like total theater-hounds to even talk abstractly about stuff, and one thing theater's not served by is abstraction.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 April 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

The whole "what eyes are seeing this" thing is SO much smaller w/theater, its circulation is so curt-tailed. So it seems less "important", in a "must have opinion on this" kind of way?

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Nory's currently doing the jobs of about two and a half people, so she doesn't really have the time.)

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

We don't talk about theater here because we'd it's not mass-distributed

Quite so. This is the strength and the weakness of theater.

Skottie, Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can you get her fired from one of them, Nabisco?

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey, that's mean! But if it would give her a little more time with no salary decrease...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

If someone could explain to me why theatre/er still has a point, I might get interested in it. I don't think it's the same as the paintings/drawings/etchings/whatever vs. Photos thing at all (because you can DO so much more with the former set than the latter whereas it seems like you can do less with plays than with film but I still feel really small-minded saying that but i think it's only because High Culture is still into plays and we've still got that thing where we think that They Know What They're Talking About despite the fact that every play review I read reads like it's completely made up of really weak excuses for a pathetic, unentertaining experience).

Dan I., Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

In NYC, Richard Foreman and the Wooster Group. They (forgive me) rock. And they've both been essentially doing the same thing for decades. But not only does that thing (those things) give unending returns (I think), it also seems as though nobody else has managed to do anything weirder or more interesting or dizzying or disorienting. Your standard theater just guarantees me ninety minutes of sound sleep. But things are different in Lodon, I think. Yes?

Methuselah (Methuselah), Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Er, that would be "London."

Methuselah (Methuselah), Sunday, 6 April 2003 23:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just saw the Wooster Group's "Brace Up!," their adaptation of Chekhov's "Three Sisters," and it was absolutely fantastic. Only running for another week--GO SEE IT!

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 7 April 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

The only good theater I've ever seen has been plays directed by Tadashi Suzuki. I'm sure there's more stuff out there just as good, but I haven't seen any yet.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 7 April 2003 00:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

" it seems like you can do less with plays than with film"

What about the differences between watching a concert video or being at a concert. The is more excitment and energy live, it is happening 'now', and there is no setbacks of use of media when seeing it live.

I think potentially theater could be one of the most amazing artforms, but I've never seen anyone do much good with it.

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 7 April 2003 00:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

Somebody needs to invent mass-distributable theater so we can talk about it!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 7 April 2003 05:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

i work at the Guthrie Theater here in Minneapolice (ush-urr-ing), but i don't see much theatre outside the place.
just the same play over and over for a month---which is fine when i like the play---and i'm learning a lot about this mysterious art...but:
Six Degrees of Separation was shrill and the jokes were all flat. it WAS kind of amusing to watch our stodgy patrons reel back in shock and horror when the naked hustler showed up, and see them fidgeting nervously during the long silent boy-boy kissing scene, but christ i'm glad its not 1991 or whenever this was considered 'edgy' and deep.

tonight was closing night thoughYAY.
and next up is -Chekhovs's Three Sisters-. i am very excited.

and Top Girls at the Guthrie Lab- no idea.

anyway the Guthrie is nice and usually lush and well-produced an stuff, and i get starry thinking about upcoming Shakespeare but it is warping my young mind by relentlessly beating on about the CLASSICS. etc. i really need to find myself a wealthy sugar-momma to take out to other theaters.

ok i got my tightpants on- i'm off to lurk 'mysteriously' outside high-priced Edina hairsalons.

gabriel (gabe), Monday, 7 April 2003 08:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

We recently TRIED very hard to sit through the first part of "A La Recherche du temps perdu.' Sadly the heating was on FOOL BLAST, the seats were too 'ard to sit comfortably watching the show and... the show itself was a-trocious. Trying not falling asleep when the main character puts his head between curtains and his face is screened on those curtains while he is reading off an auto-cue. On top of that the book/play itself is loooooooooooooong.

nathalie (nathalie), Monday, 7 April 2003 12:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aha, you've been there too. Marcel Proust on Tour.

Erik, Monday, 7 April 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

two weeks pass...
'theater-hounds': Hand is such a card.

the pinefox, Thursday, 24 April 2003 23:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I haven't been to the theatre in ages, mainly because the companies and writers I've been following have done dick all lately.

good theatre is great. people who think theatre is obsolete know nothing.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 25 April 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

however, theatre only really works in venues seating less than a few hundred people.

DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 25 April 2003 11:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
I haven't been to the theatre in ages mainly because the sort of theatre i like no longer comes to Glasgow. Ten years or so ago Mainly because of the Tramway) it was possible to come to Glasgow to see The Wooster group perfmoring almost their entire ouvre (the only place in Europe you could see it) of which i have seen Brace Up!, LSD (just the highlights) and House/Lights. Their new one "Poor Theatre" is just about to kick of in New York - i'd love to see it and am extremely jealous of you new yorkers.

In addition Lepage/ Ex Machina were frequent visitors to Glasgow and i think i have seen most oof his plays here. Theatre de Complicite don't come here anymore either. I miss stuff like this.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

what about DANCE?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I meant to go to the tramway, this weekend, but forgot.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

are you dancing tonight?

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I would like to but I have stupid things, to be up for.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan sums up my own feelings well upthread. Theatre is irrelvant and invariably dull. Upper class and upper middle class goons go to it to feel special and sophisticated. I've met these people and they are assholess so why should I want to be in their company anyway?

Mad.Mike, Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

well you're just in a theatre so you're not really in their company. The theatre i love most is not likt that at all in any case.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The 'theater' is so far from being dead that it has become the dominant art form.

Of course, this is only true if you disregard the technical differences between onstage performance, film and television. As far as I am concerned the differences really are minor technicalities.

In all three media you have scripted dialogue telling a story with actors, costumes, scenery, lighting, incidental music, and so on.

The fact that a camera lens imposes a control over the audience's point-of-view that cannot be utilized in stage performances does not make much difference in my view. Stage direction tries to filter the audience's attention, too, except it uses lighting effects, blocking of actor's movements, and other technical means that are somewhat less effective than a camera. The goal is quite similar.

Theater people are just blinded by their nostalgic love of certain techniques that must be modified or discarded in a filmed setting as opposed to a stage setting. They identify these technicalities with 'theater', abhor the new technicalities of movies and tv, and overlook the overwhelming similarities between all the various forms of the modern theater.

Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i completely disagree, movies and theatre are MILES apart (pictures telling stories vs. actors telling stories), or at least they are when they're good

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

tv and theatre, however, are definitely a bit closer.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

The fact that a camera lens imposes a control over the audience's point-of-view that cannot be utilized in stage performances does not make much difference in my view. Stage direction tries to filter the audience's attention, too, except it uses lighting effects, blocking of actor's movements, and other technical means that are somewhat less effective than a camera. The goal is quite similar.

you're making like montage is just another nifty gadget in the film director's toolbox; really it is ESSENTIAL to film, much more so than lighting and blocking is to theatre

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't theater and film need be, um, dichotomized so aggressively. they can fruitfully feed off each other. by its very nature film and theater pose different artistic challenges. many qualities grouped under the epithet "theatrical" don't really seem very essentially theatrical to me--just a legacy of the conventional wisdom that film only became film after it tossed off its debt to the theater (and "griffith invented cinema" etc.).

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

well maybe i'm being reactionary. but i do think tv and theatre have a lot more in common than movies & theatre.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

bla bla proscenium arch bla bla.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

as an art form practiced in the real world, though, theater really has become marginalized.... any by film, i think, more than anything else. (film basically economically/otherwise supplanted entire theatrical traditions in a period of 10-20 years.) there's an argument that film is more appropriate for certain modes of drama--melodrama for instance. because its indexical quality makes it a better vehicle for spectacle and "illusion"--i think this is by and large true.

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the spatial quality of film and theater are to a large extent opposed.... the camera's "field of vision" is like an upside-down triangle, whereas a conventional stage is a bit the opposite (why it's rare for a theater director to stage a signification action in the back of the stage--harder to ensure that the audience's attention is directed to it). so they pose very different staging problems. i don't quite buy aimless's argument that this means they are different only in the method by which an audience's attention is directed. i think there is a place for ontological speculation....

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link

um, i mean, ROFFLE etc.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

i think with staging it's a completely completely different ballgame, unless we're talking rotating stages or something here

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

anyway i think it's obvious that there are possibilities to filmic narration that simply aren't available in the theater--and this has implications for what films can do, how they can engage an audience. what isn't often brought up is what possibilities are inherent in theater and unavailable in film, aside from the "immediacy" thing--and i have to admit i haven't considered that and other possible advantages of theater too much, simply because theater has never had much place in my life. i have really enjoyed some plays, though, of course.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link

sigh

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 6 November 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

i'm mega glad I crammed as many theatre projects as I did between 2018 and 2019 as this has been the emptiest theater year of my life since I was 16

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

I care about and badly miss the theatre.

― all cats are beautiful (silby),

exact same. the last thing i saw was a new staging of Nixon In China so i went out on a high.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

jealous. i'd love to be able to see good theater from time to time. hi jed :)

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:44 (three years ago) link

hi map! :)

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link

over the summer (cases were lower here then) i bubbled w some people for a "shakespeare in the parking lot" prod of othello (lav mics, radio transmitter, applause by honking). ironically i'm pretty sure it was our best turnout ever. people are desperate. hope you can get involved in something again soon neanderthal even if it's zoom.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 7 November 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

saw a great 3 piece ensemble doing a performance covering about 60 years and a stack of characters in a thing called THis iS What She Told Me from the Crucible theatre in Sheffield.
Very powerful even if not entirely polished. Assume the closed caption was truer to the script and some of them tripped over a couple of lkines. But overall, like wow.
was hoping there was going to be a video to share but it seems to have been withdrawn.

Also did a play reading for Utopia tHeatre who put on the play I just mentioned. I read narration and some stage directons. Play was Wole Soyinka's Death & tHe King's Horseman which I really love now. Hadn't come across it before.
THis wasa spinoff of a Zoom course on African classic plays which was really interesting and is hopefully going to get a part 2.
Seems that African plays get little coverage in drama courses which is a shame since there are some really good ones and I would think getting to play roles from world theatre can only broaden one's craft.

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 November 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://publictheater.org/productions/season/2021/utr-2021/a-thousands-ways/
i did this earlier in November and thought it was well worth the time and effort. Tickets are free but you gotta RSVP now... spaces are filling up!
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/11/02/experiments-in-audio-theatre-radical-and-retro

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

loved this play in college, wonder how it holds up?
https://www.todaytix.com/x/nyc/shows/22923-Beirut

Marisa Tomei, Oscar Isaac and Patrick Breen star in this thrilling reading of BEIRUT, the play that launched MCC in 1987.

How do we sustain the human spirit, hope and love in the face of a plague? We’ve been here before, in history and on the MCC stage. In 1987, Alan Bowne’s Beirut launched MCC Theater’s one-act festival. A play to remember, and one that is as relevant today as ever. Set in a dingy Lower East Side apartment in the 1980s, Beirut follows the story of Torch (played by Oscar Isaac), a young man who is in quarantine after testing positive to a nameless disease. His girlfriend (Marisa Tomei, reprising her award-winning role from 1987), refuses to leave him isolating alone. It’s raunchy, it’s real, it’s poetic; and it reminds us of the power of stories, and their role in fostering hope, solidarity and documentation of extraordinary times.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 28 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

have i mentioned that dynasty handbag is god? dynasty handbag is god.
http://www.dynastyhandbag.com/weirdo-night

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 February 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i have recently discovered the proshotmusicals reddit with lots of links to streamed theatre (and uploads of recorded versions) and it is a very good source, i would otherwise have missed a live production of toneelgroep doing three shakespeare tragedies in one day. i've otherwise found it hard to keep up with what's streaming from all the various international theatres (there's a big emphasis on international 'auteur' directors like van hove and ostermeier) anyway heads up for those

plax (ico), Monday, 22 February 2021 12:04 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

We getting alienated yet?

I went to this 💀 the actors were excellent but had to pause *after every scene change* to talk to the audience about youth crime or women upholding the patriarchy before getting back to it https://t.co/sj7qE6ipEi pic.twitter.com/S8pBRyE6rc

— Katherine Augustine 🍐 (@kebayf) August 21, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 August 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

Well that was a stupid idea

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 21 August 2021 20:12 (two years ago) link

i directed R&J this summer and had to be p harsh w anyone who started raving about “brain development”, like turning 25 means life’s caramel center suddenly isn’t death anymore.

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 21 August 2021 20:26 (two years ago) link

I saw Pass Over on Broadway and it was fucking great, go see that while you can

six months pass...

wanna recommend Strange Loop again as one of the best plays I've seen in years

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link

I did see a local performance of The Frogs by Aristophanes yesterday which was very good. Pretty crude, very funny.
3rd year Drama course project from the local university. I think it was updated quite a bit not sure how recently. Had like nightclub scenes so am wondering when it was translated or reworked. Like obviously some of this was absolutely redone for this run of performances and evolved as the project unfolded.
But not sure what came from where.
Mostly female cast with a guy playing Dionysius and I think one other working sound or lights.
Hadn't realised the gender imbalance on the course. Interesting that it works that way and subsequently this play turned out like this.
Wonder if I've seen nascent performances by anybody I'll hear about later.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 15:00 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

a few times a year the theater i work at hosts these vast scripted showcases put on by a kids' dance studio that rehearses in their own space for months; holds a single dress rehearsal in our theater, during the real-time runtime of which i design+program the lights+fx; then opens the following night. always a lil fraught and becomes more so if i have a conflict and have to deputize someone (last time i did this i did not see the results of course but afterwards the studio's formidable auteur demanded a reduction). cannot work this weekend's show because am starting rehearsals up the street for my own prod of the tempest, but was able to design the show at dress tonight accompanied by my substitute for the operation, ben, a much sharper guy and faster learner than last time who is very interested in and excited about the work and whom i'm not worried about, but whom i have had to train up for this v quickly. as we passed thru the office on our way into the house, the theater's exec director stopped us to say meaningfully, under his breath, "ben is an experienced theater tech." ben has run lights for our last few concerts, so we nodded knowingly and said "of course he is." we entered the house and climbed to the tech table. thirty seconds after the show's director sat down next to us and i made introductions, ben neatly clicked a pen open over his copy of the script, looked at the first lighting cue, and in a v winning dot-every-i just-checking kind of voice said "what's 'upstage' mean again?"

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 May 2022 08:23 (one year ago) link

oh man

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 May 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link

the director for the show I'm in, who has done shows for decades and is an accomplished performer, kept confusing Stage Right and Stage Left when giving us instructions a few weeks ago.

that one at least I get since that one's easy to brainfart but upstage....is....up....stage.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

that one's easy to brainfart

is it though

Tracer Hand, Friday, 13 May 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

if you're directing, sure, because you're facing the stage which flips things in your brain, whereas if you're on stage you're facing the audience and SR and SL are literally your left and your right.

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Friday, 13 May 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

yeah everyone confuses SL and SR eventually. i'm not scorning asking about upstage either! it was just v funny.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 13 May 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

we had a fairly disastrous tech rehearsal for the 0rlando Fringe yesterday, in which we didn't finish the light and sound cues, and didn't get to run the show at all. for Fringe, you get one four hour tech rehearsal...and that's it (unless you buy another one, which we didn't).

so tonight opens and....as expected, half the sound cues were late, lighting was all wrong, and we entered and exited in complete broad daylight at least three or four times. and we had issues navigating the curtain, which has a difficult to locate slit. AND I managed to lose a piece of my costume between last night and today.

but...nobody died!

mookie wilson shaggin balls (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 May 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

FYI forks is 100% OTM about A Strange Loop

castanuts (DJP), Sunday, 21 August 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

i remain shocked that it blew up as big as it did and that broadway audiences are flocking to a musical featuring a non-ironic number about a suburban buttfucking daddy hookup
can't wait to see what Jackson does next

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

You mean non-ironic master/slave complete with n-words and racism suburban butt-fucking daddy hookup

castanuts (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

It was great. It was also basically him having a two hour argument with himself and his parents, on stage. I didn't really think about it at the time, because it was pretty dazzling, but yeah.

death generator (lukas), Thursday, 25 August 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

seeing this when it was off broadway and i had no expectations was a punch to the mouth
have not seen the new staging but it's hard to imagine anyone can be as good as larry owens was in the lead.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 August 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

I'm pretty much retired from theatre now but the director I did the Fringe Festival with the last five years needed another cold reader for a reading of the terrible Moose Murders for a fundraiser.

So I'm here doing that tonight. Playing Stinky. They're so not used to be not being in their shows anymore that I showed up without a script and dude got annoyed, not realizing he'd posted it in the FB group that I'm not a part of cos I'm not in their show.

Should be fun.

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:34 (eleven months ago) link

*used to me

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:34 (eleven months ago) link

He just handed me the script and it's 90 fucking pages lmao like I was going to print that at home

The character is a 20 year old who wants to fuck his mother.

What could go wrong?

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 April 2023 23:48 (eleven months ago) link

been stress-testing myself the last month or two: designing lights for one musical (the netflix adaptation starred meryl streep) while appearing as a high school theater teacher in another (the original production starred stephanie hsu) and simultaneously directing a student showcase because all of a sudden i actually do teach high school theater (in a neighboring town). the streep show's done; the hsu show closes this weekend; the school play's next thursday; next friday i start rehearsals as benedick in much ado. not sure yet if i care about theatre, but by the time i am it may be too late.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 April 2023 01:56 (eleven months ago) link

Benedick!! Love that guy

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 28 April 2023 03:57 (eleven months ago) link

dang, when do you sleep?!

break legs in Much Ado!

Cthulhu Diamond Phillips (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 April 2023 04:04 (eleven months ago) link

thank you! tbh the only thing rly cutting into my sleep rn is stellaris. everything else just makes me need it.

benedick's speech about change (doth not the appetite alter?) is so major: you're laughing at the character rationalizing so you don't notice shakes has begun preaching straight to you about his core/heart stuff.

barbaric imo to expect actors to print their own scripts. there should be a big clean stack of them on a table when you walk in.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 28 April 2023 09:02 (eleven months ago) link

I saw a fantastic production of Much Ado at The Globe a few years ago.. the whole thing set during the Mexican Revolution! What I remember most is the guy who played Benedick was just so good at it that his soliloquies just came upon you without you even realising that he was doing one.. it just felt so natural, like he was just sharing his thoughts with us. Halfway through I'd be like, oh, right, this is a monologue!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 April 2023 11:07 (eleven months ago) link

Tomorrow we're off to see Vardy vs Rooney: the Wagatha Christie Trial at the Ambassadors Theatre in the West End!

Over the past couple of months we've seen Jessica Swale's Nell Gwynn at the Oxford Playhouse and Lucy Prebble's The Effect at the Burton Taylor Theatre which is a tiny place (40 seats or so?) behind the Playhouse. Both excellent.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 28 April 2023 13:09 (eleven months ago) link

five months pass...

it's the most exhausting time of the year:

https://i.imgur.com/IIjgV1Y.jpg

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 22 October 2023 09:54 (six months ago) link

a few times a year the theater i work at hosts these vast scripted showcases put on by a kids' dance studio that rehearses in their own space for months; holds a single dress rehearsal in our theater, during the real-time runtime of which i design+program the lights+fx; then opens the following night. always a lil fraught and becomes more so if i have a conflict and have to deputize someone (last time i did this i did not see the results of course but afterwards the studio's formidable auteur demanded a reduction). cannot work this weekend's show because am starting rehearsals up the street for my own prod of the tempest, but was able to design the show at dress tonight accompanied by my substitute for the operation, ben, a much sharper guy and faster learner than last time who is very interested in and excited about the work and whom i'm not worried about, but whom i have had to train up for this v quickly. as we passed thru the office on our way into the house, the theater's exec director stopped us to say meaningfully, under his breath, "ben is an experienced theater tech." ben has run lights for our last few concerts, so we nodded knowingly and said "of course he is." we entered the house and climbed to the tech table. thirty seconds after the show's director sat down next to us and i made introductions, ben neatly clicked a pen open over his copy of the script, looked at the first lighting cue, and in a v winning dot-every-i just-checking kind of voice said "what's 'upstage' mean again?"

― difficult listening hour, Thursday, May 12, 2022 10:23 PM bookmarkflaglink

update: this guy (not really named ben) is now my constant collaborator and has entirely taken over designing these dance shows; could not live without him.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 22 October 2023 10:19 (six months ago) link

Go Ben go

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:03 (six months ago) link

I've been thinking about trying to go to the theatre regularly in London w/o seeing any adaptations or revivals. Could be a fun challenge!

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:05 (six months ago) link

i was in the West End yesterday and passed by VANYA starring andrew scott and i was like wow, i didn’t know about that, i’ll see andrew scott in uncle vanya and i crossed the street to read the notices and finally realised it’s a ONE MAN SHOW inspired by uncle vanya and instantly i lost all interest can you imagine

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:11 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

Been going on about an album of Patti Lupone cabaret performances from 1980 called Live at Les Mouches an another thread but maybe this is a better place. From earlier today before the slowdown:

Bruce Springsteen - Classic or Dud ?

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 20:38 (one month ago) link

From the other thread:
Been digging a live version of “Because the Night” by Patti…Lupone. She makes it sound like an outtake from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 11:50 (yesterday) link

From this:
https://playbill.com/article/patti-lupone-at-les-mouches-vintage-lupone-club-act-arrives-in-stores-nov-11-com-155028

― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 11:57 (yesterday) link

Which was a midnight Saturday cabaret show she was doing in 1980 while she was in the midst of doing Evita.

― The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 March 2024 11:59 (yesterday) link

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 21:43 (one month ago) link

From old cassette tapes! Pretty appropriate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMRF7PiJBAs

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 21:43 (one month ago) link

I found some weird casting things while I was deep down that rabbit hole yesterday. Maybe I will post, perhaps on a new thread.

The Ginger Bakersfield Sound (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 10 March 2024 22:11 (one month ago) link

Good in-depth review of the Jeremy Strong / Michael Imperioli Enemy of the People on Broadway. Interesting that it barely discusses the staging, where other shows directed by Sam Gold usually have conceptual tricks that overshadow the story and actors.

i wrote about "An Enemy of the People," those enviro-protests i somehow missed, Amy Herzog's Ibsenism and the gently troubling poems of Tomas Tranströmer, the allure of Jeremy Strong, and the inconvenience of telling the truth. https://t.co/JAekaWfHFS

— Vinson Cunningham (@vcunningham) March 22, 2024

paisley got boring (Eazy), Friday, 22 March 2024 17:33 (one month ago) link


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