My house is falling apart....

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Every day I notice a new crack in the wall. This started a couple of months ago. The cracks are all at the corners of doorways and they go all the way up to the ceiling in most cases. (yes I have told the landlord.) I move out in a month, but do you think I'm safe until then? Anyone ever have a floor or wall collapse on them?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

My house has lots of these, its probably nothing to worry about.

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

those are nothing, assuming yr walls are covered in sheetrock. Collapses happen when the wood behind the sheetrock fails (it may be warping, or on its way to failure thanks to the unseen horror of termites).

You may suggest a consultation with the local exterminator.

Millar (Millar), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

have you seen that Roman Polanski film Repulsion?

phil-two (phil-two), Tuesday, 27 May 2003 23:23 (twenty years ago) link

i once had a roof collapse. it was a flat roof in the kitchen which leaked, and leaked, and sagged, and leaked some more until one day after a lot of rain it landed on the kitchen floor. luckily no-one was in the kitchen at the time or they'd have got drenched as well as covered in plaster, wood and god knows what else. the landlord, who'd paid no attention to all the complaints about the leaking and sagging, responded pretty sharpish to the news of the total collapse of the roof and we'd a new one two days later. the day without a roof on the kitchen (after the mess had been cleared up) was great fun. all the usual kitchen elements were there, sink, fridge, cooker, table and then you'd look up and see the sky. it was very surreal.

angela (angela), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 09:32 (twenty years ago) link

have you seen that Roman Polanski film Repulsion?

Ha ha! Are you accusing Teeny of being delusional?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 09:50 (twenty years ago) link

Well actually, a piece of the ceiling once fell onto my roommate's bed [mostly the pillow area] at 1am while he was in the bathroom... The landlord didn't really seem to fret and there was a giant hole in his ceiling for about a week.

But Teeny, you should rent Repulsion

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 19:47 (twenty years ago) link

From IMDB: A beautiful but sexually repressed young woman lives with her older sister, but disapproves of her older sister's boyfriend. When the sister and her boyfriend go on vacation, the woman sinks into depression. She has many graphics hallucinations of rape and murder.

Um, I like Polanski, and I like Deneuve, but no way am I seeing this when my b/f is out of town for the summer. I want more cool stories of peoples' houses falling apart, though!

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

B-b-but there are lots of walls cracking open in Repulsion! And hands growing out of walls. And rooms getting bigger overnight. That movie has. It. All.

Sommermute (Wintermute), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 21:43 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah! like her crumbling/cracking house is a metaphor for her psychological state and shit. its great! and there are hilarious phallic/vaginal symbols in it! "why does he always put his toothbrush in my cup!" and the rabbit in the purse! its great. great.

phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So we're beginning the moving-out process and took the posters and such off the walls. Underneath a vintage AD&D 2nd edition poster we find that the wall has buckled out a couple of inches. I'll be taking some pictures anyway (it seems like it may be useful to do so, you know) so maybe I'll post some. I'm worried about the poor suckah residents that will follow me.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

That sounds awful! My house seems to be falling apart at the moment, but it just seems to be shoddy, botch jobs are now coming back to haunt the house. Sadly the house is rented.

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

Good luck with the move btw!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

seven years pass...

I'm not sure this is the best forum for considering such things but ... anyone recommend a dehumidifer (for a UK flat with a bit of damp)?
Cheers.

djh, Monday, 30 August 2010 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I got a Delonghi DES14 a few months back to help dry out our basement. Amazing how much water it takes out of the space down there every day, it's also compact and quiet (a bit of fan noise, so you might not want it in a bedroom at night for example). Can't comment on longterm reliability, but been pleased with it so far. Cost about £140.

Bill A, Monday, 30 August 2010 12:47 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Any idea as to what the costs are to convert a wall outlet(s) from the old non-grounded two-prong to a real three-prong one?

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 July 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

Depends on the length of the copper from the plug to the fuse box, doesn't it?

Stephen King's Threaderstarter (kingfish), Friday, 4 July 2014 01:07 (nine years ago) link

Call it 50 feet. Just want to know if I'm going to be dealing with relative gouge level from the electrician: $200/outlet, $500/outlet, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 July 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

what the relative gouge level I'm going to be dealing with

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 July 2014 01:49 (nine years ago) link

Goddamn it, just even thinking of the work-level there is killing my syntax. I just need to figure out how to talk to an electrical contractor without getting ripped off.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 July 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link

There are alot of variables that can affect cost. If your existing wiring uses armored "BX" cable - a pair of wires in a flexible metal conduit - the upgrade could be as cheap and easy as replacing the outlets, as the electrical boxes behind the outlets should already be grounded. If you have access to a cold-water pipe less than 5 feet from where it enters the structure, you can use that as a grounding point. Otherwise you're probably looking at running new wiring to the circuit breaker or fuse panel (definitely if you have an old house with knob-and-tube wiring with completely separate hot and neutral wires, which were never grounded). It will be fastest and cheapest if your electric panel isn't too far away, and if there's a basement or attic to run the wires through.

Probably best to install entire new circuit(s) with new wiring and outlets if you don't have BX cable. The per-outlet cost should drop as more outlets are installed. Just calling out an electrician will typically cost almost $100, and they'll need to break out the tools and testing equipment just to upgrade one outlet. Additional outlets should cost less; the final cost is largely dependent on how long it takes rather than number of outlets, as the materials cost is cheap.

(note: the above applies for the US; electical code and wiring schemes are different in other countries and i'm not familiar with them).

Lee626, Friday, 4 July 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

At least the area where I'm first looking to replace the outlets is near the electrical panel and there's a nearby bathroom. Thanks for the info!

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 July 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

We've just had a corrugated garage roof removed/replaced.

During the build, the builder (who had been out to see the roof) emailed to say that the roof was asbestos and that this would cost an additional £300-£400 to dispose of.

The original quote says they will "remove existing corrugated roof panels and discard". The bill isn't itemised, price-wise, and I'd assumed that this was straight-forward.

Is the "discovery" that the roof might contain asbestos a reasonable one? (Meaning the extra cost might be reasonable). Or am I having this piss taken out of me?

The roof is currently left in the garden.

I have paid around three quarters of the invoice (for the work done). Is it reasonable to withhold the remainder until the waste roof has been removed.

djh, Saturday, 22 April 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link

Anyone?

djh, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

It's reasonable to discover asbestos unexpectedly. But first get another quote for its removal.

everything, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link

honestly that doesn't seem like a lot for asbestos removal, but yeah I would get a 2nd quote for reference

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

Thanks both.

I think the thing I'm struggling with is that its a corrugated garage roof and I'd imagine that a builder would look at this and go "Hmm, this might be asbestos" and treat accordingly (rather than agree to the work and then half-way through the day think "Hmm, this might be asbestos". That is, its not something that is hidden. So, I guess, I'm left feeling like I've employed someone who can't do their job or I'm having the piss taken out of me. I'm open to the idea that I'm being a dick, though.

djh, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 21:04 (six years ago) link

Once I worked on a school re-wire where some crooked company had faked their asbestos report and me + a partner in crime at the time had been doing everything short of snorting and having snowball fights with a load asbestos pipe-lagging in the void under the school. There is often corruption and bullshit where asbestos removal is concerned. When it is done under correct site regs it is very expensive work, involving mobile shower units, highly trained operatives - who have more than the basic "oh -thats what that shit looks like" Asbestos Awareness course behind them. Air tests and the complete sealing off of areas during removal are all time consuming and expensive.

In my experience there are plenty of hack builder types who will bullshit people about asbestos removal being costly and then just fly-tip it on some greenbelt.

This is just my tuppence worth, sorry if it is not helpful or quite depressing.

calzino, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

That is dirt cheap for asbestos removal - I would assume he's doing it without standard abatement/disposal procedures (which are costly).

I never dealt with corrugated panels but it looks like the difference between corrugated steel and asbestos is pretty obvious.

El Tuomasbot (milo z), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link

Hereabouts, when asbestos is properly disposed of, a receipt is issued by the qualified disposal site to the contractor who removed it, a copy of which is to be given to the person who is paying for the removal. This system helps to prevent it being tipped on some greenway.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 25 April 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

Probably going to pay for asbestos removal, from a recommended company.

What would be my legal standing re not paying the original builder his full quote (his quote says he will dispose of the roofing, which clearly he hasn't done)? He claims the quote only included £50 for the disposal of the roof though this isn't itemised with a price.

djh, Wednesday, 26 April 2017 20:48 (six years ago) link

every time they find asbestos on Property Brothers it's $1500 for removal

El Tomboto, Sunday, 30 April 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link


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