"the lads", classic or dud?

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Do you ever use this phrase? Is there a group of "the lads" in your life? They need not be assholes, but do you have nights out where it's just guys there?

Lads, classic or dud? What positive things are there to be said for this sort of socialising? What negative things, if I need ask?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:29 (twenty years ago) link

I don't think I ever call them that without irony, but yeah. It sounds better from an Irishman.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

The girls call us that though sometimes and that's OK.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

I am happy to be referred to as one of "the lads" by a girl but less happy to refer myself as one of "the lads." So yeah, what N said. Sort of.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

lads?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:36 (twenty years ago) link

You know, testicles.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

would anyone refer to themselves as one of the lads, not sure.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

Pretty much everoyone round here. Sample sentence being "I'm just one of the lads, me, up for a laugh, me".

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah that could have very bad connotations or just mean someone was actually unpretentious. It reads more like a general philosophy rather than something you'd say unless you really really were unpretentious.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's more a default setting around this neck of the woods. The culture is a very male drinking culture. Friday night out with the lads, Saturday night take the wife/girlfriend out. It is very static.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 7 August 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

Is there a difference between 'lads' and 'boys'? I say that I am going out with the boys after work on a Friday.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe it's a geography thing. I am in the North west, and don't think anyone ever refers to "the boys". I's mostly lads, or, more accurately Las (when moving up here for the first time I thought that everyone was mates with Lee Mavers).

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

'all i ever wanted in life was to just be one of the lads'

paul gascoine.

dud-100

piscesboy, Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link

I'd say boys aswell. What Matt says is kinda close to home, it is sacrosanct that I meet "the lads" on a Friday for a beer. Saturday isn't so much a spend the night with your wife/girlfriend night, I usually go clubbing and sometimes some of my friends come too, though I guess they would sooner spend Saturday with their girlfriends than Friday.

How does a night out with all guys vary from a mixed company night out? If you do go out with just the boys/lads often enough? Does it vary at all?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

no i only hang out with girls

duane (doorag), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

night out with the guys is often funnier than a night with girls there as well. guys make more risky jokes that way, whereas with girls around, alterier motives can come into play, and well people have to play their hands more carefully. of course this is a big generalisation , depends if the girls are close friends, in which case everyone mostly just lets their guard down. but with ladies who are acquaintances, well im usually much more careful anyway.

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

lads isnt a term i would use either. "boys" gets used a lot

Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

I often make references to lads and lasses but I'm not sure I say "I'm going out with the lads" often. Although this is only because I don't have any friends :-(

j0e (j0e), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

I have a group of friends who I see regularly (regular readers will note that my work precludes anything like a normal social life). This group is mixed-sex. i also have a couple of friends with whom I prone to the occasional all-day binge, these tend to be all male affairs but this is largely due to the girls having too much sense to join in. Mind you, I wouldn't say the behaviour gets any better with the girls along. My girlfriend in particular is a great one for upping the ante booze-wise.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:34 (twenty years ago) link

I have never been called or referred to myself as "one of the lads", and I am happy for this state of affairs to continue.

Chriddof (Chriddof), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

why?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

or maybe why not

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:47 (twenty years ago) link

I'm def. one of the lads, actually.

Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:48 (twenty years ago) link

Like how on the Frankie Goes to Hollywood album there's that song about the lads, isn't there?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:07 (twenty years ago) link

'wish the lads were here'.

paul and holly were always paul and holly but to everyone
at ztt by all accounts ped, brian and mark were always
'the lads'. judging from holly's (fantastic)
book however, wishing the lads
were 'here' wasn't something that occured often.

piscesboy, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

This is a little hard for me to understand because I don't really think of my friends primarily in terms of their gender. I usually hang out with a mixed group of male/female friends.

Ronan, maybe it's time to let some girls into the clubhouse?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 11 August 2003 05:50 (twenty years ago) link

lad culture===dud,dud,dud

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 11 August 2003 05:53 (twenty years ago) link

Whatever Happened To The Likely Lads?

gareth (gareth), Monday, 11 August 2003 06:21 (twenty years ago) link

I hang out with mixed groups aswell, I just don't hang out with them as much.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 11 August 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

but maybe you're right!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 11 August 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

Girls who refer to themselves as "one of the lads", classic or dud?

Mark C (Mark C), Monday, 11 August 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link

Is the male Friday night drinking sacrosanct, Ronan? Maybe you should invite Lara Byrne along to liven things up.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 11 August 2003 08:02 (twenty years ago) link

It's not as though we're all sitting around in loincloths planning the next buffalo hunt. It needn't be a bad thing. Don't know what lad culture is but I don't think it's bad to have a sacrosanct friday night with the "lads" or whatever.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 11 August 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not saying it's "bad" but it may be limiting.

Anyway, come to NY Ronan, there's lots of girls here who would like to meet ya.

Mary (Mary), Monday, 11 August 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

It's not as though we're all sitting around in loincloths planning the next buffalo hunt.

RONAN MAN OF OATS!

Tad (llamasfur), Monday, 11 August 2003 16:05 (twenty years ago) link

six years pass...

http://www.truelad.com/

^RIYL laughing at anon tryhard douchebags

A piping hot bra of tits (DJ Mencap), Monday, 19 April 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Goldstein erroneously reported that TalkSPORT co-host Jason Cundy had died after he failed to turn up to co-present his weekend show in October 2008. This led to some Chelsea fans laying flowers at Stamford Bridge and sending in condolences to the radio station. Goldstein later said he was only joking.

nakhchivan, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

have there ever been 'lads' on ilx

Im part of a great bunch of lads, but tbh as always uk and ireland versions of this phenomenon seem quite different. But i was out with the lads only yesterday fyi

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 09:58 (ten years ago) link

What's the difference? I use 'lads' too.

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:01 (ten years ago) link

what for?

To describe a bunch of guys you might go out for a booze up with, for instance

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:05 (ten years ago) link

idk whether it's a particularly culchie thing but my girlfriend's sisters and their (female) friends will refer to each other as "the lads".

хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:09 (ten years ago) link

i think girls do use it around the country yeah. or addressing people of both genders as "lads".

i would probably describe my old friends from where i grew up as "the lads" but fairly sure my mum would have said "are you going out with the lads" if i asked to go to the park when i was 6 or something, so it need not imply boozing and all the things that come later.

... (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:11 (ten years ago) link

i think girls do use it around the country yeah. or addressing people of both genders as "lads".

I've never heard it tbh

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:12 (ten years ago) link

lol

i think my most traumatically 'lad' ish recent experience was a night out with a load of ex-trinity girls.....all the hard drinking but none of the gentle craic that mitigates the irish lad-bro compared to the english version

it is strange here - i feel like most reasonable uk people are v determined to separate themselves from the "lad" thing - i've never met any uk "lads" really, i assume it's something you need to have gone to uni to encounter here? occasional workmates maybe...

... (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:17 (ten years ago) link

It depends entirely on the circles you move in, having grown up in London I've seen loads but less and less so as my social habits and work have changed over the years. Pubs becoming more and more socially stratified has had an effect as well.

Matt DC, Monday, 10 June 2013 10:25 (ten years ago) link

Sat behind a large table of loudly braying males at Great Queen Street restaurant the other week, pretty sure they would have self-described as lads. City boys but with cockernee geezer accents, possibly faked or adopted.

nagl dude dude dude (ledge), Monday, 10 June 2013 10:31 (ten years ago) link

'Lad'isnt a descriptive title anywhere but urban england, maybe, and sure the problem there isnt what they call themselves, it's the filthy tan ways on them.

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

I have known 'the lads' to be used to describe mixed groups, exclusively by hardened drinkers of the worst type, exclusively female, great lads tho

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:38 (ten years ago) link

i've got at least 2 groups of solid drinking pals that i could theoretically refer to as "the lads" but

a) they're nearly all my age and upwards and lads seems a bit off
b) i'm talking about people who generally meet at the same pubs rather than arrange to go out together

no real objection to "the lads" and don't think it connotes the same thing as LAD culture exactly so

sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Monday, 10 June 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link

We all mean different stuff when we stay stuff really when you think about stuff

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link

Lad as slang for penis btw, anyone

posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link

Not familiar with that tbh

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link

think Father Ted might have placed it in the UK lexicon in a limited way

dimension nickröss (DJ Mencap), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link

"Yer lad, in yer hand" - yup, Father Ted did draw this to my attention.

The only times my friends use 'lads' is to denote a group of men they don't like being loud near them (see also: 'legends'), or in the context of 'there's a good lad' when coaxing/rewarding a male dog.

on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link

The only times my friends use 'lads' is to denote a group of men they don't like being loud near them

I often use "tories" for this. cos they often seem like they are.

... (LocalGarda), Monday, 10 June 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

Loaded, one of the titles synonymous with the mid-1990s lads’ mag boom, is to close after 21 years.

Loaded was once one of the the leading titles in a booming lads magazine sector, with sales of 350,000 in 2000.

In recent years the rise of the internet has seen sales plummet, circulation stood at about 35,000 in 2011, the last officially audited figures available for the title.

The magazine is owned by Simian Publishing, a company set up in 2013 for Loaded’s management to take control of the title.

nakhchivan, Friday, 27 March 2015 19:34 (nine years ago) link

adamclyne
@adamclyne

Head of Digital (EMEA) @WeberShandwick. Pug owner. Hummus Connoisseur.

The @VICEUK of my generation... #RIPLoaded

nakhchivan, Friday, 27 March 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

There was a point about 10 years ago when the boss at a company I worked at flipped out when an apprentice kulak drove into the yard with a rolled up copy of Nuts on the dash of his Berlingo. He got quite a hard fucking and was given a written disciplinary warning about having visible "porn mags" on company property. Even though I immensely disliked the boss I thought he was 100% otm in this case.

I personally think James Brown is one of the vilest & most worthless pieces of shit of his generation and would genuinely wish death upon him. He is that much worthless that he almost makes Paul Morley seem a likeable person. If there is a hell I hope he ends up in some dismal loop; trapped in a white transit van with dumb young guys smoking biftas at 6am, talking about spitting on Lucy Pinder's arse with Moyles blasting out at full whack - aeterno!

xelab, Friday, 27 March 2015 20:38 (nine years ago) link

There was a point about 10 years ago when the boss at a company I worked at flipped out when an apprentice kulak drove into the yard with a rolled up copy of Nuts on the dash of his Berlingo

lol this is quite a turn of phrase

nakhchivan, Friday, 27 March 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link

The worst thing about the Berlingo is 3 seats at the front, would rather lie on some padded dust sheets in the back than listen to the outright twaterry in the front all the way to Selby, even if you are doomed in a crash.

xelab, Saturday, 28 March 2015 00:39 (nine years ago) link

I don't know much about publishing but 35k circulation doesn't seem that bad in this day and age?

kinder, Saturday, 28 March 2015 04:47 (nine years ago) link


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