"The Wire" on HBO

I love how high a level they're working on: this is a TV show where they don't have to condescend to the audience and where every single facet - the cast, the story, the locations, the care they put into every detail from the smallest local custom to the largest political issues - is uncompromising.

The DVD may come out next summer - HBO is notoriously slow about releasing those. They're usually two seasons behind, compared to Fox, who put out the 24 DVDs for one season right before the next one starts.

How'd people feel about the finale? Not as tight as last year's (since it was setting up Season 3), but I loved it.

Anyway, the first season - yeah, that all centered on the Barksdale case, which didn't exactly take a backseat this season but was... less pronounced. Omar has always stood out on the show, which is usually a little more reserved about its characters - he's the superbadass gay stick-up kid whose boyfriend Brandon was brutally cut to pieces by Barksdale's crew in retaliation to Omar's unrelenting attacks on their stashes. Haha i was gonna continue but to try and recap all the ties and Byzantine dealings between the characters would take a few hours so uh yeah... wait for the DVD. :/ I was lucky enough to start catching the show earlier this year when they reran the first season in prep for the second.

Oh man, there's so much about this show that just gets me giddy though. The final sequence of shots, set to that song, were very fitting; building up and building up, the tension and dynamics of two huge cases built upon each other that still aren't really finished and all the people crammed into the power dynamic of it, and it all collides right on top of that last shot of Nicky Sobotka, completely trapped under the weight of human wreckage. Most of the show is about, and is most sympathetic to, some very deeply damaged human beings, but there's always compassion for them. This show loves its characters and loves its actors (the guy who played Frank Sobotka was brilliant), and I think that's probably one of the things that comes through best in all the episodes (along with the writing, which never misses a single damn beat...)

apparently Richard Price is gonna be writing for them next season too. oh mama.

also, lord, the usage of music is great on here. McNulty driving drunk to "Transmetropolitan" was a highlight; don't really buy Nicky being a Palace Music (!) fan, though..

aaaah someone shut me up already

I loved this show the instant I tuned in and saw somebody from the Annapolis HC scene in a small credited role -- since he's gained more weight than I have since that time, I declare the Wire a classic.

I was a little disappointed by the book, I have to say. Most of the episode guides (which is to say most of the book) is just plot summary; now that whole seasons of TV series are coming out on DVD, I don't see a lot of use for such info.

God I love this show.

So how long 'til the next season?

One can never underestimate the human importance of the aesthetic contributions to television narrative that HBO continues to make. One easily recognizes the impetus for the late-night trash that it presents as a neon sop of barely soft-core pornography for the masses, but that would not explain all of the other things that this adventurous station offers. In aesthetic terms, I think this is especially true of The Wire, a dramatic series with much wider scope than The Sopranos, an unprecedented classic.

The human importance of The Wire is that it avoids the caricatures that we are too often given of black people in rap's pervasive minstrelsy and the other fast-food ethnic images of mass media. The Wire is the best crime show since Hill Street Blues, Law & Order, and NYPD Blue. Like its predecessors, the show has a breadth of human vision that moves us far beyond the stereotype and does the best that it can with the mysteries of human personality.

The Wire is set in Baltimore and does not back away from the monstrous elements of the black drug trade in American cities, but it also gives great variety to the criminal characters, from extremely stupid to extremely clever. Even more impressive than that already impressive achievement is the range of black people in law enforcement and the complex rendering of urban politics as played out along racial, sexual, and class lines. For one long stretch its focus was white ethnic crime on the Baltimore docks, and the series was as successful in creating complex scenarios, providing the viewer with maddening, flawed, corrupt, heroic, and tragic characters. Within the limits of its form (which seem to be no more than the width of the screen, since cable television is not, for good and for bad, held in check by censorship), The Wire is a masterpiece and will continue to be as long as it can maintain the depth of the standards it has set for itself.

yes. yes i do know. even though I missed most of this last season :[[[[ After not catching a bunch of eps in a row I basically gave up and decided to wait for the reruns, but the beginning of the third run wasn't quite as arresting as what came before, one had the sense that the show had found a groove and was settling into it (i think by tackling so many Big Ideas™ in the second season they ended up neutering themselves in terms of how far they could expand the scope of the story) (not necessarily a bad thing) but there was still quite a bit of interesting stuff going on. and I had no idea that Stringer bell was one of those rappin' limeys!! They should get Dizzee on there.

Here's my review of Season One in City Pages:

THE WIRE: THE COMPLETE FIRST SEASON
HBO Home Video

Only some of The Wire's greatness can be measured by how thoroughly it demolishes the "realism" of other TV public dick shows and gangsta soaps. Every trick of television verisimilitude has a freshness date, and makes way for a new set of clichés (think of the shaky camerawork in the now rote Law & Order franchise). Even FX's The Shield, once the cutting edge of morally ambiguous cop heroes, demonstrates the diminishing returns of constantly defying viewer expectations. In the end, its extremism is about nothing but other cop shows.

HBO's The Wire, however, is about work. And the genre it subverts isn't just the crime one, but the nameless category of TV and film that might be labeled "people who are great at their jobs and work like maniacs." Most characters in this emergent genre of the overworked '90s and '00s are judged by how well they serve their institutions. Yet in The Wire, it's the institutions that are the problem--including the illegal ones. Running a housing project in West Baltimore like a death squad might run a food court, local gang members adhere to a demeaning organizational hierarchy. There's no Bonnie and Clyde fantasy of freedom to this murderous pecking order, which exists only to perpetuate itself. (In one poetic touch, the kingpin's right-hand man takes macroeconomics at the community college. At the core, he's a company man.)

The narcotics detectives have their own parts to play, and it doesn't seem remotely heroic when they buck authority. McNulty, the romantic lead among cops (he carries a liquor bottle and spits when he talks), admits at one point that he's pursuing the gang as an ego trip. If characters find dignity anywhere in the Sisyphean drug war, it's in their duties to each other, and in their craft.

Created by a former Baltimore Sun reporter (David Simon, who also gave us Homicide: Life on the Streets) and a former Baltimore Police detective (Ed Burns), The Wire is clearly a work of journalism. But it never pretends that the truth can set you free. --Peter S. Scholtes

http://www.citypages.com/databank/25/1253/article12754.asp

Amateurist, The Wire is the most naturalistic show I've ever seen on television. Yeah, some shaky camera etc but only when it suits the scene. It's not very stylized, most of the technical filmmaking stuff is pretty subtle.

It allows itself occasional flashy touches (like Bunk and McNulty's great "Fuck" scene, where the dialogue consists entirely of "Fuck" said with a dozen or more different inflections), but those come as sort of welcome bonuses -- easter eggs for dedicated viewers or something.

Here's a public link for that (m4a)

Wow, afaict it's rare that there's ever any follow-up on these things:

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/michael-k-williams-overdose-arrests-1235170332/

do you think the hand-to-hands and controlled buys are going to get them up past the street level?

David Simon does not approve

Please don’t @ me on this. I do not think Mike is honored or properly remembered by more incarceration in his name. Knowing him and his thoughts, I think he would be appalled at this. End the goddam drug war. https://t.co/IYZTSzgHEa

— David Simon (@AoDespair) February 3, 2022

I was going to post basically the same thing. One of the arrested is 70 years old

wonder who their lawyer is

just makes a sad thing even sadder
arresting the dealers is just surface level bullshit, meanwhile fentanyl is basically a standard compnent in street heroin all over the country & no one w the power to do anything abt it seems to give a fuck

Simon & Pelecanos back in Baltimore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOz3dn3vuU

whoaaaaaaaaaaa

Holy shit, Delaney Williams as Kevin Davis?

Other former Wire cast members include Jamie Hector, Tray Chaney, and Domenick Lombardozzi.

Jon Bernthal + Jamie Hector ? I am sold.

honestly -- in retrospect, Jon Bernthal would have been a really good McNulty

Oh wow, this is a side note, but I went over the Wire subreddit to check for more information on this show. Instead found out that Benjamin Busch, the actor who played Colicchio (the asshole cop with the goatee), has been over in Ukraine giving some kind of combat instruction to Ukrainian volunteers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd5nOZeOYGc

looking forward to the new show, not the new war

cannot wait for new show, looks so good

Looks like a bit of penance from Simon for his overly-generous treatment of the Baltimore police.

and we get josh charles too, baltimore’s own :D

Love Jon Bernthal's repugnant bad guy face, "dough on the table" policing is kinda ripe for this exploration. Stoked

yeah bernthal is perfect for this

Am I crazy or wasn’t he playing this character on The Shield?

Haven't all of his major roles been variations on a dirtbag?

Bernthal was not in The Shield

I was thinking of Walton Goggins!

I get Bernthal and Thomas Jane confused (not just because the we’re both the Punisher)

Oops typo. I am not in fact the Punisher

there's a dedicated thread for these fascinating revelations :)

i am a fan of Bernthal, Thomas Jane and Walton Goggins ... my first Bernthal experience was as Shane in Walking Dead, kinda dirtbag, kinda hot tbh

could definitely see him hooking up with diner waitresses after getting drunk and crashing his car

I waited til I finished my full series The Wire rewatch until I watched this trailer!
Some real 'Ryan on Line of Duty' feels seeing Marlo there.

And Herc? Donut? Jay? Dukie?
Should be good.

should we start a new thread for the new show - it’s so good

Yeah, different thread makes to me.

Yeah, I think it's a good idea. Great first episode.

ok done & done

Lake Trout & ACAB: David Simon’s “We Own This City” on HBOMax

Rewatching first four seasons, up to 3 now. Still enjoying but man, that scene where they mistake Cheese killing his dog with killing his "dawg" is some lame sitcom shit compared to the rest of the ep

LESTER: We've been listening to him all night. Something about looking for a "free show."

BUNK: Fuuucck, ain't nothing free out there. We're getting set up!

Season 1 had plenty of lame sit-com shit, that scene where they’re trying to get that table through the doorway, the cop trying to figure out how to injure himself so he can get out of work, sub-Office Space level shenanigans.

god, Avon was so bad at running shit. not that Stringer didn't fuck up on his own, but talk about having literally all the wrong priorities.

does it make you feel better about your "stupid annoying co-workers" Neando?

yeah at least mine won't get me killed

GOD DAMMIT: https://variety.com/2023/film/obituaries-people-news/lance-reddick-dead-the-wire-john-wick-1235557886/

Fuck. Heartbroken.

😞

;_;

Good police

— Drew Lawrence (@by_drew) March 17, 2023

Love him in everything he's been in, RIP

Shirtless Daniels reveal is one of the most memorable moments from the HBO Golden Age.

Lance Reddick originally read for the part of Bubbles on the show, which I’m sure he would have nailed, no mean feat since he completely embodied the Lt. Daniels relationship role.

I think he would have been really mediocre to bad as a homeless drug addict character and the correct casting decision was made. It's fair to say he wasn't a rangy actor, but excelled in one particular type of role. Without any disrespect.

Didn't he pay a drug fiend on The Corner?

he did yeah, but I'll keep my bad opinions on David Simon off this thread cos I think everything he touches is unbearable garbage