― Chriddof (Chriddof), Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:42 (twenty years ago) link
Our friend had really been talking it up, and I was worried that there was no way it could be as good as he claimed, but it was truly astonishing. Wackadoo, weird, wild, conspiracy theory, anti-religion, quasi-mystical nuttiness with a multimillion dollar budget. Total classic.
― kate (kate), Saturday, 6 September 2003 15:53 (twenty years ago) link
I used to have his e-mail address and I thought of maybe interviewing him for a time there but somewhere I heard he´s a real dick or something along those lines and then I lost the address and I cried and I cried. I waited far too long. Regret!
And yes, The Holy Mountain is the best cinematic acid trip eva!
The only movies of his you need to watch:Fando Y LisEl TopoThe Holy MountainSanta Sangre
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 6 September 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Saturday, 6 September 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 6 September 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 5 September 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
great news:new movie,produced by david lynch
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0892411/
― Zeno, Thursday, 12 February 2009 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link
long shot amirite
― noticing the cloud come (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 February 2009 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link
talking baot this in another thread previously i think.
― wilter, Thursday, 12 February 2009 09:30 (fifteen years ago) link
http://i44.tinypic.com/w8rszd.jpg
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 12 February 2009 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link
We're Facebook buddies now!
― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Thursday, 24 February 2011 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187679/
http://thesonsofeltopo.com/
― they call him (remy bean), Friday, 25 February 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
“I liked Lady Gaga’s meat dress. It was funny. But I did that first in my Panic performance. Maybe she has seen what I’ve done – I don’t know. I like to think her song Alejandro was written for me. Her music is interesting. It’s interesting because it’s very free. But it has no meaning because what she’s singing has no hope. It is without hope. It’s only about revolution, which isn’t enough. We need a re-evolution right now, not a revolution. We need something new. Lady Gaga has a lot of energy and that is fantastic, but she is using old Surrealist images.
http://www.anothermag.com/current/view/1022/Alejandro_Jodorowsky_on_Lady_Gaga__Surrealism
― Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ I like to think her song Alejandro was written for me.
has anyone read his psychomagic book? is it worth reading for someone who has already drunk the jodo kool-aid, so to speak?
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link
it is great. read it.
― in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
even if you haven't drunk the kool aid, it is jam-packed with jaw-dropping stories/anecdotes
just got his tarot book based upon your rec, love it
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
They didn’t like science fiction or rock music or… let’s not make a list: the Surrealists didn’t like anything!
lol
― in my world of ugly tribadists (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Could have sworn I mentioned this, but I guess not: blu-rays of El Topo and Holy Mountain coming out in a couple of weeks.
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Thursday, 14 April 2011 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Dune doc
― american thinker (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, I wonder if they have any period footage or production art or anything? Or if it's just a bunch of talking heads? Will definitely watch either way.
― geir was right (wk), Thursday, 12 May 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
there is a ton of production art out there. dunno about footage.
― american thinker (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 May 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://tarotica.blogspot.com/2009/06/dead-rabbitsor-much-perfection-is.html
Jodorowsky writes, again in his book El Topo:"When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed."
"When I wanted to do the rape scene, I explained to [Mara Lorenzio] that I was going to hit her and rape her. There was no emotional relationship between us, because I had put a clause in all the women's contracts stating that they would not make love with the director. We had never talked to each other. I knew nothing about her. We went to the desert with two other people: the photographer and a technician. No one else. I said, 'I'm not going to rehearse. There will be only one take because it will be impossible to repeat. Roll the cameras only when I signal you to.' Then I told her, 'Pain does not hurt. Hit me.' And she hit me. I said, 'Harder.' And she started to hit me very hard, hard enough to break a rib...I ached for a week. After she had hit me long enough and hard enough to tire her, I said, 'Now it's my turn. Roll the cameras.' And I really...I really...I really raped her. And she screamed."
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
he says a bunch of shit like that in the dvd commentary too
― the late great, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Za7PlknnTw
― scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
nobody anticipating? or is there a thread for this I missed?
― scott seward, Monday, 20 May 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
anticipating! still haven't seen his last one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rainbow_Thief
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Jodorowsky's Dune documentary coming soon
― Moodles, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
excited
also for Dune doc!!
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
I've still never seen The Rainbow Thief, either, but I bought that boxed set that came out a few years ago (El Topo, The Holy Mountain, Fando y Lis and some short films, plus the soundtracks to El Topo and The Holy Mountain), and I got the recent DVD of Santa Sangre too. Would love to interview Jodorowsky.
― 誤訳侮辱, Monday, 20 May 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
he's disowned the Rainbow Thief fwiw, dunno if its worth watching
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
I feel pretty safe skipping TRT, and also that children's movie about elephants that he did. But yes, I'm super pumped for this as well!
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
is there an english language version of the trailer anywher
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 20 May 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rtrd1FewUFA
this just came up on my Facebook feed lol
― chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rtrd1FewUFA
ok, PROBABLY NSFW since it won't embed
― chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 October 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDxjkKDZLlo
― Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:15 (ten years ago) link
want to see this so bad.
want someone to finish making jodo's dune.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 17:23 (ten years ago) link
I feel like this can't be anything but a disappointment, since it's just gonna dredge up feelings of wishing it had been made
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 17:43 (ten years ago) link
some dune projects have begun, then been abandoned, over the past few years. i realize it's a very hard story to convert into a film, but so was the lord of the rings trilogy, and that was done very well.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
I like the Lynch version fine, altho obviously its totally different than what Jodo would've done with it
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link
you mean the theatrically-released version or the "director's cut"? i hear they're very different.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 14 February 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link
I was just reading about the propsed soundtrack for this thing, supposedly going to be split into thirds with Henry Cow, Pink Floyd and Magma.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 February 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
both
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 14 February 2014 19:13 (ten years ago) link
I don't recall any major differences tbh
― How dare you tarnish the reputation of Turturro's yodel (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, February 14, 2014 11:43 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this
― gbx, Saturday, 15 February 2014 14:17 (ten years ago) link
never seen this poster art before
http://i.imgur.com/Z7cBVFp.jpg
― °ㅇ๐ْ ° (gr8080), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 16:30 (ten years ago) link
I've been reading a lot of The Incal comic reprints lately. They have all been excellent so far.
― nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Tuesday, 25 March 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Don't know what you're getting at but if there's other threads I have to read I'll leave it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 19 March 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
http://www.tor.com/2017/05/02/jodorowskys-dune-didnt-get-made-for-a-reason-and-we-should-all-be-grateful/
Partially about his claim that he raped the actress in El Topo.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link
Also, see his tweet in the comments.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link
Is anybody in this thread in possession of the alleged screenplay?
― TGKE, Thursday, 23 April 2020 12:52 (four years ago) link
I had the same reaction to the documentary as the author of the tor.com article. Went in expecting to be fascinated as per other people’s recommendations, but about halfway through something inside snapped, the emperor had no clothes, and it made me furious.
― Kim, Thursday, 23 April 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link
The Island Of Dr Moreau documentary is waaaayyy better but I still think the Dune one is worth a go.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link
I think his other films have their moments (especially Holy Mountain) but Santa Sangre and Dance Of Reality are the only ones I love.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link
Still haven't seen Endless Poetry
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:31 (four years ago) link
Holy Mountain > Santa Sangre > El Topo
I've never seen Tusk, The Dance of Reality or Endless Poetry (or Fando y Lis, though I own the Anchor Bay box set that has it).
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link
I really like The Dance of Reality. Has more heart than his other films, while still being batshit crazy.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 23 April 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link
It's funny how the world's caught up to Jod - not just all the music videos and even fashion photo shoots that have stolen from The Holy Mountain over the years, but the fact that there are probably a half dozen telenovelas crazier than Santa Sangre by now.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link
I'm guessing ST Vincent was referencing him?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link
Got a link? I don't really know her work.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/St-Vincent-St-Vincent/master/657709
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:50 (four years ago) link
hey TKGE can you email me again and put your address in the body of the email?
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:02 (four years ago) link
whoops forgot i could email you through here sorry everyone
there's a song called "huey newton" on that St Vincent album, I always figured the cover as a ref to the famous photo of him
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 24 April 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link
So those script scans upthread from march 2015 (Alejandro Jodorowsky) ...
In March 2015 a script, an apparent early draft of Dune written by Jodorowsky, appeared on eBay. When asked on Twitter about it Jodorowsky replied: "Es un falso guión con un dibujo idiota." ("It is a fake script with an idiot drawing.")
https://www.duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 4 November 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
Oh wait... In August 2018 however, official copies of the Jodorowsky's Dune script were sent out to backers of Jodorowsky's "Psychomagic, an art that heals" project on Ulule (https://www.ulule.com/jodorowsky/), and this script is almost identical to the "fake" script.
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 4 November 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link
The real deal, yours for around 30,000 euros (estimated):
https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-6345488
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Thursday, 18 November 2021 11:03 (two years ago) link
2.7 million euros!https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/nov/22/film-storyboards-for-doomed-1970s-version-of-dune-sell-for-266m?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Monday, 22 November 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link
Whoa
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
like everything else related to Dune, if you didnt get it before the remake came out, you are going to be paying a lot more for it now..
(goes to ebay, searches for Bruce Pennington cover of GEOD and then faints.)
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 23 November 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link
This is a book of original art by Moebius & HR Giger. Did Christies really think it would fetch only $35K?
― dinnerboat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link
Oops – should have read to the end (1 of 10-20 copies). Yeah, $3M is something.
― dinnerboat, Tuesday, 23 November 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
A big chunk of that book is available online in decent scans. The storyboards are great. I think there's no way a quarter of that version of Dune as seen in the sboards would've made it onscreen.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 November 2021 10:25 (two years ago) link
‘The Holy Mountain’ is way more preposterous and lurid than even films like Fellini’s ‘Satyricon’ or Pasolini’s ‘Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom’
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:41 (two years ago) link
It is the ultimate 1973 film
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:42 (two years ago) link
of the experimental films from that era, though, I liked Kenneth Anger's 'Lucifer Rising' (1972) and its Bobby Beausoleil score
still haven't seen Pink Narcissus (1971)
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:51 (two years ago) link
There were regular double bills of El Topo and The Holy Mountain in Toronto for many years while they were being kept out of distribution in the States by Allen Klein. Apparently it was a contractual requirement for them to be shown together; I watched them both on the same night and that was WAY too much Jodorowsky at once.I just saw Santa Sangre recently, with no particular expectations, and was really pleasantly surprised. For a filmmaker who I tend to think of as having a narrow range of effects (doing one particular thing very well), there was a lot of humour and emotional depth to the story that was entirely compatible with the usual grotesquerie. The Dance of Reality, which I saw a few years ago, was soulful in the same way, but I had supposed that that was a recent development in his style, related to the film being autobiographical. I'd probably rank him above Fellini now.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 16 April 2022 01:05 (two years ago) link
he doesn't even come close to Fellini
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 01:14 (two years ago) link
Love Jodo for the most part but no way he even touches Fellini as a filmmaker.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 16 April 2022 06:47 (two years ago) link
Fantastic Planet would be my 1973 experimental pick.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 16 April 2022 08:05 (two years ago) link
The comparison of the two came to mind because of the circus milieu of Santa Sangre. My personal view on Fellini is that he peaked early with I Vitelloni, and got bigger not better.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 16 April 2022 14:35 (two years ago) link
Sante Sangre is included in my Kanopy subscription, I will watch it
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:43 (two years ago) link
Wish there were more films like it. Bit of a shame it isn't as well known as El Topo and Holy Mountain
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 17 April 2022 00:12 (two years ago) link
Santa Sangre is free (with ads) on Tubi if anyone needs to see it.
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 6 October 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link
I bought the bluray of it last year from Mr Bongo who issued it.https://www.mrbongo.com/collections/film/products/santa-sangre
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 6 October 2022 14:59 (one year ago) link
i finally saw Holy Mountain, last night, in a small room. the colors were bright, the sounds were loud. i thought all the scenes with the fool carrying his replica around were so good. climbing that giant tower, then the alchemist descending the staircase in the slowest of realtime motion. at the end, the alchemist sending the fool home with the woman and chimpanzee who have been following him, before he can reach the top of the mountain. lots to think about.
i wish i were a little more versed in all the symbolism that permeates the film. for example, i recognized these symbols when they appeared and thought it was from the i ching,
https://i.imgur.com/4JcA7v9.png
but they're from something else in taoism, the eight trigrams, and represent Heaven and Earth
https://i.imgur.com/C6kfw7n.png
i might do some internet hunting and see if i can find a shot-by-shot breakdown of the symbolism throughout the movie. would like to watch El Topo soon as well! also, are his 21st century films good?
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link
I like The Dance of Reality, Endless Poetry is a decent sequel but not as good.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:52 (one year ago) link
i think the new ones were supposed to be a part of a 5-film autobiographical series? i wonder if that's been abandoned or if the scripts/screenplays are somewhat developed
― it's a new day in the international landscape (z_tbd), Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
really want to track down the Incal, as well
I think Santa Sangre and Dance Of Reality are his best
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link
Maybe I posted on another thread, I got the incal a couple of christmases ago. It was abysmal.
― ledge, Sunday, 9 April 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
He's been paired with some truly stunning comic artists. His plots are nonsense, but I'm willing to roll with it and enjoy the art.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 9 April 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
I gave up on The Incal pretty early. Moebius was not fully operational and I think even Jodorowsky was disappointed in his work there.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:20 (one year ago) link
Santa Sangre is great, an ultra-lurid telenovela-style horror movie. But it's a regular movie-movie, with a plot and whatnot, not a pure yank-your-brain-out-your-ass shotgun blast of symbolism like The Holy Mountain. I don't think any movie on earth is like The Holy Mountain, really.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 9 April 2023 19:41 (one year ago) link
I will not stand for this nonsense Incal talk. Moebius "not fully operational"?!? As opposed to...?
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 9 April 2023 21:44 (one year ago) link
I think all his famous comics from before that had better artwork. I wasn't that impressed by his art on Madwoman Of The Sacred Heart either
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 22:05 (one year ago) link
Incal is 3rd tier Moebius in my view
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 April 2023 22:06 (one year ago) link