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weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link

uh classic btw

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Funniness outweighed by annoyingness. That English woman who can't even do an English accent - AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHH!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

very annoyingly unfunny!

Pinkpanther (Pinkpanther), Friday, 23 April 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

It's all about Niles. I love Niles.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the Dad......... and his dog

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Pre Niles and Daphne getting it on = classic classic classic. The episode in the log cabin with the gay skiing instructor and all the running in and out of different rooms = the pinnacle of US sitcom.

Generally after Niles and Daphne getting it on = dud, especially when the sentimental stuff began to outweigh the perfectly-formed farcical setpieces. Plus no Bulldog, which didn't help.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Daphne's faux-Manc accent was okay, especially for us Southerners. It was her Cockney-but-still-from-Manchester Dick van Dyke brother who really sucked.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

She does have a very strange accent. I believe the actress is from London, but they changed Daphne's accent to Mancunian because "American's wouldn't understand a London accent" (?!) Thing is, I seem to remember she was Northern in Seinfeld too.

Nick H (Nick H), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. Dadaismus, know your (hybrid) Northern accents.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Her Manc accent is awful, even I could do a better one than that

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Less accent nitpicking, more more enthusing on the radio jingle episode NOW.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

matt dc pretty much otm re: frasier's jumping of shark. also tiredness in too many episodes concluding in the same fashion, ie frasier chasing smartly dressed prospective partner who has taken offence at something and saying "it wasn't my fault" or something similar in his usual buffoon-like manner. also (as i said on the friends thread) putting them in bizarre new situations like the marice murder thing to eke out a bit more humour (and failing)

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic classic. You see it coming a mile off, but still I watch and watch. Favourite episode - they're all the same! DYS

The series leading up to Niles and Daphne hitting it off was brilliant. By the end, I wanted them to get it on, but knew that the whole was that it shouldn't happen, comedy wise, but being a romantic fule, was v pleased when they eloped.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link

The shark-jumping is key, but I'll be damned if I said I never wanted to see Niles and Daphne together. I've never really liked the dad, however. Or his fricking dog.

Barima (Barima), Friday, 23 April 2004 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I still remember Frasier's classic line: "but I went to Harvard. When I'm wrong, the world makes a little less sense".

When it's clever, it's great. But I don't like all that running in and out and jumping into the wrong beds crap. I want word play, goddammit.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 23 April 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Search: the leap year episode, with horny Niles, Daphne's haircut and Frazer preparing to sing opera. Also the one where it was revealed that when piqued, the young Crane twins would stomp to their room, put on Vivaldi and play air violin.

The silent episode closers were often an interesting formalism.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i wrote an article about frasier once called "tossed salads and scrambled ids"

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Roz--is that spelled right?-- is pretty hot.

I find it so annoying and wrong, yet I watch it. It comes on before "Becker" which is also annoying and wrong...

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 00:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I love Frasier, though when they pull the slapstick comedy of errors stuff sometimes it can get a little irritating, even though it is always done well (maybe I just dont like that kind of funny)

Daphne's brother was played by Anthony LaPaglia wasnt he? He'd be bound to sound inauthentic - he's an Australian who's been in LA far too long!

Saw an ep (new?) recently I hadnt seen before. They had new downstairs neighbour who was effectively a black Frasier and they were at loggerheads but acting exactly like each other. Very well done, it was.

I agree on it being more schmaltzy since the Niles/Daphne wedding tho.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Lordy, they actually hooked up? What did Maris think?

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

He divorced her ages ago! Havent you been paying attention! ;P

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Obviously not! I only watched it briefly in syndication. Oh, poor Maris. She was pretty hott, from what I can remember.

Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Slightly hotter than Vera.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, when did they ever *show* Maris? Or are you taking the piss? ;)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Minna hates Frasier because it has scrambled eggs in the song and she hates eggs. She also might hate it because it is bad.

Nellie (nellskies), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link

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Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 05:11 (nineteen years ago) link

SEARCH episode where old friend of dad Crane and deceased mum Crane comes to visit, and everybody starts suspecting he's had an affair with mum Crane because he's so much like Frasier and Niles, but in the end just turns out to be gay!

Hanna (Hanna), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 06:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I second Trayce - the joke was surely that Maris was more menacing as a person we never see?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 07:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, we haven't shown enough love for Peri 'Roz' Gilpin!

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 09:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw Maris and Vera (Norm's wife) hanging out at a sushi bar once. HOTT.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link

s: the one where they lez up

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I was so pissed off when I found out that 'The Norm Show' wasn't another 'Cheers' spin-off.

Last evs Frasier next Thursday. Anybody still care?

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 9 May 2004 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't imagine anyone in the world does

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 9 May 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Roz is the hottest! The rest of 'em can fly a fuckin' kite.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 9 May 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Waitamo... Frasier is finishing!? Why isn't it getting the love the fucking end of Friends got????

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 9 May 2004 06:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Frasier is a horrible horrible show.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 9 May 2004 06:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Saw an ep (new?) recently I hadnt seen before. They had new downstairs neighbour who was effectively a black Frasier and they were at loggerheads but acting exactly like each other. Very well done, it was.

That's from a few series back.

Peri Gilpin is worthy of much love, and I can only imagine how horrible it would have been if Lisa Kudrow (the original choice to play Roz) had got the part.

I think I'm maybe the only person saddened that Frasier is finishing, and who doesn't think it's gone downhill since Niles and Daphne got married. However, I am extremely glad that they have rounded Daphne's character out more and stopped with all the kooky psychic shite.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Roz = sexy and loose = HUBBA HUBBA!

Johnney B, Sunday, 9 May 2004 09:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Her Manc accent is awful, even I could do a better one than that.

Me too. Oh, hold on, I'm from Manchester.

The guy who plays Frasier's dad was born in Manchester too you know. Like rain on your wedding day, innit?

JimD (JimD), Sunday, 9 May 2004 10:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic... I've largely seen earlier episodes, i.e. virtually all the first series on Paramount some time back, and odd episodes from other seasons.

The situation and characters were great; got to love John Mahoney's wonderfully contrasting performance to the brothers; and of course the brotherly relationship between Niles and Frasier... Good to see a US sitcom focusing on such untypical Americans; pompous, pedantic and very likeable as well. Quite a feat.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 May 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

SEARCH episode where old friend of dad Crane and deceased mum Crane comes to visit, and everybody starts suspecting he's had an affair with mum Crane because he's so much like Frasier and Niles, but in the end just turns out to be gay!

great episode, old friend was played by David Ogden Stiers iirc. I even like the show after Daphne/Niles hookup. I wasn't a fan of the show until it was almost over, catching up in syndication; i already know I don't much like the relatively hackneyed first few years.

tremendoid, Thursday, 31 January 2008 07:19 (sixteen years ago) link

never cared for the show when it was on, but i've been watching it a lot in syndication lately. the frasier/niles interplay is classic stuff.

get bent, Thursday, 31 January 2008 08:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i just wish niles and frasier wouldn't start running in circles flapping their hands every 5 minutes. otherwise classic.

sunny successor, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link

oh and frasiers ex with the man voice always wearing really REALLY short dresses was kind of wrong too.

sunny successor, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Lol, British people love Frasier. I spent NYE'98 at a B&B in York watching a Frasier marathon on BBC2.

jaymc, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

http://flickr.com/photos/daychokesnight/557439779/

dan m, Thursday, 31 January 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

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joygoat, Friday, 1 February 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

This show is like Three's Company with psychiatrists.

Abbott, Friday, 1 February 2008 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love Frasier, but all the actors playing English characters are fucking hopeless

Ste, Saturday, 2 February 2008 08:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Fawlty Towers

piscesx, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

Thread inspired I've been going through some of the higher rated ones (seen the complete show quite some time ago). They really hold up great. When they were good, they were really, really good.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

I toyed with the idea of rating every single episode but that’s just a whole other level of commitment i wasn’t willing to take on

I usually don’t like (TV) shows anyway so

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

I recently rewatched the Patrick Stewart episode - it's another variation on the "everyone thinks Frasier is gay" gag - it's a really funny episode, about gay panic without succumbing to it.

Also watched the Michael Keaton story (conman in a wheelchair) which was a little lame.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

Seasons 1 to 3 are mostly classic. Tailed off badly after that and a lot of it is unwatchable (given what came before).

millmeister, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

xp yeah that's a fantastic ep with Stewart

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

I watched all of them a couple of years ago and can't remember the Patrick Stewart one or the Christmas one!

kinder, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:08 (six years ago) link

there's a christmas episode in most seasons of frasier.

there is also a millennium episode (where martin keeps quoting austin powers)

khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

Also watched the Michael Keaton story (conman in a wheelchair) which was a little lame.

ISWYDT

Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link

thinking of big name guest stars, I love the one with Derek Jacobi as the hammy Shakespearean actor (that from pretty late in the shows run as well iirc?)

soref, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

yeah, season 8 iirc.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

(conman in a wheelchair)


i know, i know, it’s really serious

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

"Her lips said No, but her eyes said read my lips"

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:01 (six years ago) link

Just started rewatching this from episode one after finishing Cheers, and it’s such a jarring, unwelcome transition. It’s impressive how quickly the show distanced itself from its predecessor, but the changes to Frasier’s character and temperament are so harsh. Weird to imagine what viewers must have thought at the time

― Evan R, Monday, January 8, 2018 8:06 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is pretty much OTM. I watched Cheers while it was airing (old) and tried Frasier for a while but it just felt like a wan and overly-manic AfterCheers to me.

Also the cultural products of one's childhood and adolescence will always be the best and most important so there's really nothing to be gained from arguing these things with someone from a different generation, I find.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link

Which is to say it's only right and natural that millennials prefer Frasier to Cheers.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

(Millennials, let me know if you need me to explain what AfterCheers is in reference to.)

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

did anybody ever actually watch this? i only heard of it recently via AV Club.

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piscesx, Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:32 (six years ago) link

Afterglow?

Frederik B, Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

picesx got it. And given that it lasted two seasons and there were only three things to watch on TV at the time, I guess people must have watched it.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:51 (six years ago) link

The decision has been made to cancel AfterM*A*S*H after the most recent episode was viewed by a paltry 63 million people.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 13:52 (six years ago) link

Was the Radar pilot ever screened? I feel like I watched it on a dodgy realplayer stream from a MASH fan-site one time in the 90s, but perhaps I am imagining things.

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:05 (six years ago) link

Wow, I had no idea that was a thing. And it's apparently not even called Radar but rather W*A*L*T*E*R. It's a shame that the non-Trapper John spin-offs tanked and we never got to see H*A*W*K*E*Y*E*P*I*E*R*C*E.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Thursday, 11 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link

I pity the fool...

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

why am I legally allowed near photoshop pic.twitter.com/9L3WZvy0pU

— Goth Ms. Frizzle (@spookperson) June 16, 2018

Stanley Therapy (stevie), Saturday, 16 June 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

also here’s a frasier script I wrote where he and niles are inspired by hannibal lecter to try cannibalismhttps://t.co/PMWDPgPiyF

— Ben Rosen (@ben_rosen) June 17, 2020

JoeStork, Tuesday, 23 June 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Lol Bishop Brennan out of Father Ted just popped up in a one line role as a waiter in some Gentleman's Club

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 08:47 (three years ago) link

My bad, he got a second line

i have no scampo and i must scream (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2020 08:53 (three years ago) link

yeah I know the scene, was a bit shocked myself.

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Thursday, 2 July 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Frasier's nightmare pic.twitter.com/5ScqBpdGJG

— Baal Til You Fall (@coffinzone) September 15, 2021

... (Eazy), Thursday, 16 September 2021 20:34 (two years ago) link

My favorite Frasier bit is where he unwittingly recites the bracha in Klingon at his kid's bar mitzvah.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link

Some one left the complete Frazier on dvd out on the street with the trash

calstars, Sunday, 19 September 2021 03:26 (two years ago) link

I'll bet it was that contemptible Cam Winston

Sorry, but that is how I feel (Ste), Sunday, 19 September 2021 09:55 (two years ago) link

My fave episodes:

Caviar episode
Where Frasier and Niles find an old skull and mistakenly believe foul play
Frasier and Niles take a motor school class
Frasier writes a jingle for his show
Frasier and Niles get a free spa session and become obsessed with getting higher access

Sorry, but that is how I feel (Ste), Saturday, 25 September 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Fravatar pic.twitter.com/e5AAjPVNQH

— Ben Rosen (@ben_rosen) December 1, 2022

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:45 (one year ago) link

I prefer Jodorowsky's Frasier:

Many of you sent me that spectacular AI art of "Jodorowsky's TRON." I felt inspired to take a stab at the concept with some other properties. Step into a dark portrait of the human psyche in...

Jodorowsky's FRASIER pic.twitter.com/EfqBY7UBPu

— Rob Sheridan (Parody) (@rob_sheridan) November 29, 2022

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 2 December 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Cor blimey

Frasier’ Sequel Series at Paramount+ Casts Nicholas Lyndhurst

Alba, Friday, 13 January 2023 19:24 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

First pic of Nicholas Lyndhurst in the Frasier reboot pic.twitter.com/PLSOdjR84n

— hoskas (@hoskas) August 22, 2023

honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 09:13 (seven months ago) link

Blimey.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 August 2023 09:18 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRUZi9geSE

missed opportunity to turn the frasier theme into another dramatic half-time plinky piano thing with moody shots of niles glaring into the distance imo

Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 24 August 2023 04:13 (seven months ago) link

My fave episodes:

Caviar episode
Where Frasier and Niles find an old skull and mistakenly believe foul play
Frasier and Niles take a motor school class
Frasier writes a jingle for his show
Frasier and Niles get a free spa session and become obsessed with getting higher access

― Sorry, but that is how I feel (Ste), Saturday, September 25, 2021 1:05 PM bookmarkflaglink

spa ep is wonderful: "be my eyes, frasier"

i'm def a frasier millennial sigh. some faves:

frasier and niles want to join a spa
frasier and niles want to join a club
frasier and niles both want to be elected "corkmaster"
frasier and niles go christmas shopping
niles suspects maris of having an affair with her fencing instructor
niles hosts a society party but there is a dead seal on the beach
niles hosts a society party but there is a cockatoo on his head
frasier stages a radio play
frasier and bebe host a morning show
frasier acquires a reputation as a tough guy
frasier endorses a political candidate
frasier believes he has solved his dad's decades-old cold case
frasier cannot accept that his dad is a better chess player than him
frasier cannot accept that tony shalhoub dislikes him
no one believes frasier is dating a supermodel zoologist
farce in ski lodge
farce on cruise ship
farce in bora bora (ft. lilith)
frasier crane day

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 24 August 2023 08:07 (seven months ago) link

the radio play episode was weird to watch as a teenager as radio plays have never gone away in the UK

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 August 2023 08:19 (seven months ago) link

i love the spa one and the farces, which I normally can't stand. not watched them since I was at home with my eldest when he was a baby, so about 8-9 years

kinder, Friday, 25 August 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link

-- actually, this is not without precedent. when he was 10, he forged letters from leonard bernstein and told everyone they were pen pals.

-- oh yeah.

-- he'd come bounding up the stairs: "got another one from lenny!" we were all agog! UNTIL mr. bernstein wrote that his broadway debut was "candide" when everyone knows that it was "on the town". that's when we knew it was a fake!

-- the sloppy kid lettering was also a clue.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 06:35 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Same Frasier. New Skyline. The first two episodes of #Frasier premiere Thursday, Oct. 12 exclusively on #ParamountPlus pic.twitter.com/xIl41160hk

— Paramount+ (@paramountplus) September 14, 2023

nothing here that's particularly hilarious, but it's not obviously terrible either? Them doing the strained father-son relationship from the original series but with Frasier as the father this time seems like it could work as a concept.

soref, Friday, 15 September 2023 10:40 (seven months ago) link

A lot of the humour in the original comes from how people tend to revert to their childhood role when around their parents and siblings no matter how old they get, so it's funny to see this fancy, educated guy bickering with his brother and his dad - I think Nicholas Lyndhurst is supposed to be an old contemporary of Frasier's from college who he reconnects with, so I guess he is taking on the role of the person who new Frasier before he was 'fully-formed', who can undermine him because he knows him to well, can see past the image he's carefully trying to project?

soref, Friday, 15 September 2023 10:40 (seven months ago) link

Would watch this if it was on any of the streaming apps I'm subbed to but no

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Friday, 15 September 2023 10:55 (seven months ago) link

I didn't hate the preview clip. "Amalgamated with the hoi polloi" is classic Frasier pomposity.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Friday, 15 September 2023 13:49 (seven months ago) link

on the bright side, this will keep Kelsey Grammer contained to a soundstage for part of the day/year

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 15 September 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link

FRAZOR: Frasier with a Razor. Rated X. pic.twitter.com/HxMB2R5Txv

— Lukey McGarry (@lukeymcgarry) September 13, 2023

soref, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:41 (seven months ago) link


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