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...for he is truly a prince among men. Or a more brazen version of Will Self. Or something. Check out this story from the Guardian:

How Blair stayed cool at spliff time in rock star's smoke-filled room

Patrick Barkham
Saturday May 1, 2004
The Guardian

As great leaders know only too well, it is best to never be seen in the proximity of an oddly-rolled cigarette. Denials that you ever inhaled are also compulsory.

So when the sweet smell of marijuana reached the prime ministerial nostrils at dinner one evening, Tony Blair could have been forgiven for racing from the room.

But, as the source of the smoke, film director Robert Altman, reveals in today's Weekend magazine, the relaxed prime minister did no such thing.

Sitting opposite Altman, Mr Blair, who once said the one thing his father "drummed into" him was "never to take drugs", continued to enjoy an intimate meal with some of his rock'n'roll idols.

The man Altman referred to as "the London dude" was more lead guitarist for Ugly Rumours than prime minister while dining at Dave Stewart's house during his first term as leader.

Another guest at the musician's mansion that night was Jerry Hall.

While Cherie Blair left early, Mr Blair stayed behind.

When the after-dinner spliff was lit up, Mr Blair did not partake, according to the 79-year-old Altman, but appeared to have no objections, even though it was in the days before cannabis was downgraded to a class C drug.

"We were sitting there smoking grass," Altman said. "He [Mr Blair] was sitting across from me, so I thought he was pretty cool."

NickB (NickB), Saturday, 1 May 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

What teenage definition of 'cool' is Altman working with?

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 2 May 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

RJG and I agreed last night that it would be much fucking cooler if he'd made a citizen's arrest and called the cops.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 2 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

What teenage definition of 'cool' is Altman working with?

But he's hip, daddy-o.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The 1950s teenage definition i.e. "cool" as in "cool to the whole idea"? Poor old Tony. It explains a lot about Altman that he interprets "not bolting from the room" as "moral alignment with my proclivities." I bet once the spliff got lit he started stabbing the air with his hands and talking about "painting with motion" or something.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

(tracer sorry i missed you yesterday!)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 2 May 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I missed you too mark!! Gah after Fear X I wandered desperately around Leicester Square in search of some proof that the world wasn't a bleak and insoluble sub-Lynchian daydream.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 May 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I had the same thought on reading this as N. and RJG.

Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

he's nothing but altman's poodle i tell you

duke pharma, Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"Movies are finished, aren't they? ...I just don't see any films – or filmmakers, for that matter – coming along that interest me. I find the style of the films so silly. I'm surprised filmmakers can get away with all this. The corniness of most of these things – anyone who can even do it astonishes me... we have a general level of intelligence in America that is considerably lower than it was 30 years ago."

http://www.stopsmilingonline.com/archive_detail.html?id1=424

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link

once a fogey...

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

this is interesting:

SS: Paul Thomas Anderson was brought on to be your back-up director. Did that work well?

RA: Yes. He was with me all the time. He's a good friend of mine. I'm 80 years old. So they don't insure me. On Gosford Park, which was the first time I did this, Stephen Frears was my stand-in. That's all an insurance issue.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

as is this!!!!

SS: How did you and P.T. Anderson meet?

RA: I've known Paul since he started, and he's always been very generous about the origins of his work. Paul agreed to do it, which surprised and thrilled me. His girlfriend, Maya Rudolph, who was pregnant, was in the film as well. So that made things easier. It worked out well.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"Movies are finished, aren't they?" - John Ford, 1972
"I find the style of the films so silly. I'm surprised filmmakers can get away with all this." - FW Murnau, 1951

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

He should have stuck with Frears.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

boring old

Munki (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

He's no Christopher Nolan, obv.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

munki's post is kinda enigmatic

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Doc, do you have any response aside from "YEAH WELL HE'S NO COEN" (or insert other 'hip' filmmaker as appropriate)?

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, I use "No cheese" fairly regularly.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...
Vincent & Theo was quietly released on DVD recently, I just happened upon it tonight. At $9.99 retail, it's a steal.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 02:29 (eighteen years ago) link

i just watched 3 women the other night. so fucking good.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

his interview with the mpls star-tribune after the wrap of the PHC shoot was hilariously insulting, something like "oh i think all the people that went to that jesus picture will turn out for this thing." like dude you just made this movie with garrisson keillor...

geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link

dave fucking stewart.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Happy 81st, Bob.


Robert Altman's Long Goodbye
By TERRENCE RAFFERTY


Robert Altman, who turns 81 tomorrow, will receive his very first Oscar in a couple of weeks: an honorary one, of the sort the academy so often employs to ease the bitterness of a veteran nonwinner's declining years. (And, of course, to square historical accounts and deflect the outrage of future generations of movie lovers, who might feel that the failure to honor an important filmmaker reflects sort of poorly on the awards' credibility.) Like King Vidor, who had to hang in for 85 years to cop a thanks-for-the memories statuette, Mr. Altman has five best-director nominations and zero Oscars to show for a long and prolific career, so he pretty emphatically qualifies as overdue. He has been overdue for 30 years.

Hollywood has in fact never known quite what to make of Mr. Altman, who seemed to come out of nowhere with "M*A*S*H" in 1970 and, despite the industry's best efforts to send him back there, wouldn't go away. With the kind of weird, inexplicable gambler's instinct he would explore, hilariously, in "California Split" (1974), Mr. Altman parlayed his winnings from "M*A*S*H" — which remains by far the biggest hit of his career — into an exhilarating half-decade run of high-stakes moviemaking: seven pictures in the next five years, of which five are, like "M*A*S*H," at least arguably masterpieces.

Those great films — "M*A*S*H," "McCabe & Mrs. Miller" (1971), "The Long Goodbye" (1973), "Thieves Like Us" (1974), "California Split" and "Nashville" (1975) — still look like the core of his achievement: to paraphrase Raymond Carver (whose work Mr. Altman adapted in his 1992 film "Short Cuts"), they are what we talk about when we talk about Robert Altman. That's not to say that the two dozen feature films he has managed to direct in the last 30 years are negligible (though there isn't a power on earth, or beyond, that could persuade me to sit through "Quintet," "Health," "Prêt-à-Porter" or "The Company" again), or that Mr. Altman's skill has in any way diminished with age: the silky command of "Gosford Park" (2001) is ample proof that it hasn't.

It's just that in the early 70's the conditions were right for Mr. Altman's loose-jointed, intuitive, risk-courting approach to making movies, and the planets over Hollywood haven't aligned themselves in that way since. The wondrous opportunity those years afforded adventurous filmmakers like him was that studio executives, for once in their ignoble history, actually knew that they had no idea what they were doing: a man who could deliver the elusive, mysterious (to them) youth market, as the 45-year-old director of "M*A*S*H" somehow did, became a mighty valuable commodity.

Mr. Altman, who had spent the previous couple of decades directing industrial films, episodic television ("Bonanza," "Combat") and the odd low-budget picture, seized his moment and set about the task of reimagining, with a little help from his friends, how American movies should look and sound and feel. The anti-authoritarian spirit, the caught-on-the-fly dialogue and the invigoratingly original blend of slapstick and casual naturalism that had made "M*A*S*H" seem so new mutated into something even stranger and headier in "McCabe & Mrs. Miller" a year later.

That film, a western of an unusually lyrical kind, puts the controlled-chaos techniques of "M*A*S*H" to entirely different use: in "McCabe," the buzzing vitality of the frontier mining settlement called Presbyterian Church serves as counterpoint to an eccentric American tragedy. It's the only movie I know of in which you can watch a community come into existence, changing and growing before your eyes, and Mr. Altman's camera, seeming to catch the whole complex process unawares, is miraculously alert to both the pleasures and the melancholy ironies of growth.

It's among the greatest movies of its time, up there with Sam Peckinpah's "Wild Bunch" (1969) and the first two "Godfather" pictures (1972 and 1974). And like them it's the product of an era in which the nature of the American democratic experiment was being questioned constantly and, in the best of our films, unconventionally celebrated — celebrated, that is, not for our collective military and economic power but for our individual vigor and orneriness and goofy optimism. This was a cultural moment made for Mr. Altman, whose hopeful approach to making movies has always been to get a bunch of lively, interesting-looking actors together and watch what happens, see if they can make something grow.

Mr. Altman had, in the early 70's, assembled an unofficial repertory company around him, a group of performers he trusted to supply the quick jolts of energy — the funky humor and the wayward poignance — his lightning-in-a-bottle moviemaking required. Elliott Gould, Shelley Duvall, Keith Carradine, Bert Remsen, John Schuck, Gwen Welles, Michael Murphy and Henry Gibson were, in shifting combinations, the faces of an Altman movie, people who seemed to exist (or, in the case of Mr. Gould, to exist vividly) only in his fictional world. And he gathered them all, along with a few more of their unpredictable ilk, for his epic "Nashville," a movie whose multiple threads of stray narrative are held together by nothing more than a spirit, a sensibility: the weird buoyancy of Mr. Altman's take-it-as-it-comes fatalism.

What strikes you, in fact, when you watch "Nashville" or its three immediate predecessors, "The Long Goodbye," "Thieves Like Us" and "California Split," is how fundamentally grim Mr. Altman's vision of American life is — and how little that persistent, deep-seated, unshakable disillusion actually affects the tone of the movies. All the characters in those pictures are in one way or another disappointed, but disappointment doesn't appear to be a big deal for Mr. Altman. Maybe because he had to wait so long to fulfill his artistic ambitions, because he arrived so late to the Hollywood party, he seems to know (every one of his movies says it) that disappointment never killed anybody. "It's O.K. with me" is the dopey mantra of Mr. Gould's Phillip Marlowe in "The Long Goodbye"; the crowd at the end of "Nashville," shocked by an act of sudden violence, gets over its horror by singing along to a tune called "It Don't Worry Me." And although in both pictures the effect is ironic, in neither case is it wholly ironic. On some level, Mr. Altman shrugs along with his characters.

He would need, as it turned out, every bit of that world-weary insouciance in the years that followed "Nashville," when it gradually became clear that the moment for his sort of exploratory filmmaking was passing, and then simply past. His stock company slowly dispersed, his college-age audience grew up and entered the so-called real world (which proved to be rather like the prosperous, company-run town that in the end no longer needs beautiful dreamers like John McCabe), and the studios became, I think it's fair to say, less tolerant of box-office failure.

You could almost feel the air leaking out of Mr. Altman's balloon in the late 70's. And by the 80's this profoundly American filmmaker had moved to Europe and largely reinvented himself as a less ambitious sort of artist: a master craftsman and a miniaturist, not a fresco painter dangling perilously from cathedral ceilings. He found work directing operas, plays and, television dramas, and for the big screen contented himself with a series of filmed theater pieces, most of which involved just one set and a limited number of characters. (The most memorable of them, 1984's "Secret Honor," is a one-man show about Nixon.)

In a way, the Robert Altman of this period is like one of the aging outlaws of "The Wild Bunch": "It ain't like it used to be, but it'll do." And although his 80's movies are less exciting, their very smallness allows you to appreciate the beauty and resourcefulness of Mr. Altman's technique: the slow zooms, the fluid tracking shots, the elegantly timed cuts (usually on movement), the extraordinary assurance with which he explores the confined spaces and controls the dramatic rhythm, are immensely satisfying even when his material is second-rate.

He kept his instrument in tune, and when a terrific script finally came his way — Julian Mitchell's "Vincent & Theo," about the van Gogh brothers — he was more than ready. The movie he made, which was released in 1990 as an art-house picture (and is now available, in a gorgeous transfer, on DVD), seems to me the best of his post-"Nashville" films: moving, powerful, scary and in love with light. Mr. Altman's direction is somber and almost classical, which may partly explain why the picture is so good: he's often at his sharpest when he's doing something he hasn't done before.

The movie that put him, briefly, back on the Hollywood map, though, was familiar territory — the darkly comic ensemble piece "The Player" (1992), whose setting is Hollywood itself and whose rampaging energy seems to derive from the glee of consummating a long-nursed revenge fantasy. "The Player" is his funniest movie, and, in the end, a prime example of the O.K.-with-me attitude that has enabled Mr. Altman to get by, and occasionally thrive, in the funhouse-mirror culture of studio filmmaking.

He seized that moment, too, to try to recapture a bit of the early-70's exuberance. But he couldn't quite locate it, either in "Short Cuts" (which is brilliant but sour-spirited) or in the 1996 "Kansas City" (in which the cast let him down). What got his juices flowing again, peculiarly enough, was the elaborate English murder-mystery trifle "Gosford Park," which revealed, to his evident delight, that there was a whole new world of Altman actors waiting for him in the old world.

If honorary Oscars are to some degree awards for longevity and brute persistence, then Mr. Altman qualifies on that score, too: he's the unlikeliest imaginable survivor of the Hollywood system. When he steps onto the stage of the Kodak Theater on March 5 as this year's distinguished geezer, he might feel a twinge of is-this-all-there-is? disappointment, but his movies tell us that he'll get over it. He might even reflect that Sam Peckinpah — his junior by one day, and 20 years dead — blew out his heart fighting the studios, and never got his vindication. And Robert Altman, I expect, will accept his statuette with (perhaps slightly mordant) good grace, because it'll do.

Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay! My favorite octagenerian stoner.

odd that he doesn't mention "Three Women".

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I still like "3 Women" -- esp Shelley D's best perf ever -- but on last look the last 10 minutes are a bit much.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Morb and I are, as usual, in agreement. Forgot to give Sissy Spacek some cred, though: she's even creepier than in Badlands.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i actually LOVE 3 women. it ranks among my top four altman flicks, i think.

Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Is this how he stays young? :-)

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

When Bob walks (or rolls) out to pick up the doorstop, the Oscar orchestra should/will play...?

"He Needs Me"

"It Don't Worry Me"

"The Long Goodbye" theme (Jack Riley solo piano version)

"Suicide Is Painless (MASH theme)" (seems inevitable, don't it)

"Tapedeck in His Tractor"

that Leonard Cohen tune about some Joseph looking for a manger

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm Easy

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

But he's not!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

or better stili, "Keep A Goin'"

xpost

But besides a couple of screenplays, it the closest he's ever come to an Oscar before.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

God, I can't type. "Still" & "it's" go where the errors are.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Morbius, I don't know, but whatsever they play, they should have Lily Tomlin up there doing the lyrics in sign language. Or, for added interest, Louise Fletcher.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

He should walk onstage smoking a joint and wearing the love beads he wore on the set of McCabe & Mrs Miller.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 2 March 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Segal and Gould doing the crow song from "Dumbo" OBV!

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Thursday, 2 March 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

When Bob walks (or rolls) out to pick up the doorstop, the Oscar orchestra should/will play...?

Here Comes The Hotstepper.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 2 March 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Altman Blog-a-Thon Weekend unfolding, here:

http://mattzollerseitz.blogspot.com/2006/03/be-like-bob.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

From the NY Daily News (Streep is in APHC, so hence her role on Sunday):

It's taken a long time for ­Robert Altman to win an ­Oscar, but the 81-year-old director scoffs at the notion that he and Hollywood hate each other. "The press cooked this feud up," he tells us. "I've been nominated five times. That's one out of five films. So why should I be pissed off at Hollywood?" What about that time that a demanding studio exec invaded the set of "Nashville." Says Altman: "I did not punch him in the nose. I just pushed him in a pool. Why? I didn't like him. And I was drunk." Altman says he's currently having "the time of my life." His next film, "A Prairie Home Companion," based on Garrison Keillor's radio show, stars Meryl Streep, Lily Tomlin and Lindsay Lohan, who all toasted him at a ­party hosted by HBO and Picturehouse. Despite her party-girl rep, Altman found Lohan, "wonderful. And she even sings great!"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
A major NYC retro, with two R.A. appearances:

http://movingimage.us/site/screenings/mainpage/robert_altman.html

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

supposedly lotta pt anderson fingerprints on prairie home companion which i'm a lil wary about (and i was plenty wary about that flick already).

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm a lot more worried bout screenwriter G____ K______'s fingerprints but the trailer looks like an Altman movie.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Lindsay Lohan - haha! I'm skeptical but I'll watch it.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

i have the soundtrack. on disc, it plays like a subpar episode of 'phc,' but it doesn't give much sense of what the actual movie might be like.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

has anyone seen the sf f ilm with paul newman shot in montreal, he directed in the mid 70s

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Yep.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

i gotta see that

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I might shell out the $25 at Moving Image to see Bob discuss Kansas City rather than APHC.

Lindsey Lohan gets a laugh in the trailer, tho it may help if you're hermetically sealed enough from pop to have never heard or seen her, like me.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 13:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Images is clearly a precursor to 3 Women though. Sure it's a half-failed variation on Repulsion, but I like York, and Ireland.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 December 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link

what was really annoying is that the principal characters have the names of other actors in the cast. cutesy.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 14 December 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link

My fancy friends invited me up/got me tickets for "Nashville" and "3 Women" at MoMA this weekend. "Nashville" was fine but "3 Women" which I haven't seen in years was so wonderful

llehctim INOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 December 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

I still like 3W .. up til those last 5 minutes.

went to The Long Goodbye w/ my friend and his teen son (it's his fave movie). It was my first time seeing it since hiking up to Marlowe's apartment in Hollywood Heights. There's only one real good shot of the lengthy stairs, when Gould runs down them after Mark Rydell leaves with his coterie and wounded girlfriend.

I had to bag A Perfect Couple when i got a late party invite, but it's on DVD.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 December 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

I plan to watch The Long Goodbye and Inherent Vice back to back

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 December 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

Fortunately the MoMA print of TLG was excellent; Images had faded, brownishly.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 December 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link

Nashville and 3W both looked wonderful

Also, I learned that the MomA theatergoer is... a very particular type of theatergoer (blech! ptooh!)

llehctim INOJ (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:14 (nine years ago) link

They are legendary, you got off easy if no one punched you or was eating plums.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link

Saw Kansas City for the first time tonight; lovely print. My fave performance was Miranda Richardson's, with some blissfully dazed line readings; J J Leigh was committed but a little shticky, and Belafonte was an appropriately feral Mr Big. Production designed and jazzed up the wazoo, but a little wanting in the drama department.

Hal Willner spoke beforehand, admitting to serving as musical supervisor while totally "loaded -- the end of a 20-year run." He was sitting directly behind me with Altman's widow and Annie Ross.

Steve Buscemi also did an intro, mentioned Bob glowering at him because he was shooting video of him at work.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 04:44 (nine years ago) link

Annie Ross? Is she in it?

Dedlock Holiday (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 09:32 (nine years ago) link

I forgot, she was in Short Cuts. Last time I went to see her at the Metropolitan Room she was in a terrible mood.

Dedlock Holiday (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link

ah, i've never seen her live. She was dressed like an 84-year-old jazz star last night though. Colorful ensemble.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:14 (nine years ago) link

committed but schticky is JJL's MO.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link

Belafonte is v good in that role, idk his acting career v well, anything else of note?

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link

But sometimes it adds up to more, like in Miami Blues. xp

I've only seen HB in about 4 other films, out of which I can recommend the whole package (singing and youthful beauty) in Preminger's Carmen Jones, and the noir he did with Robert Ryan, Odds Against Tomorrow. For laughs I liked his Godfather spoof in Uptown Saturday Night.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:20 (nine years ago) link

Belafonte also good the same year in the horrifying White Man's Burden.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:22 (nine years ago) link

I saw Three Women recently and it was one of the greatest things I've seen, a sort of mystical surrealist horror coming of age buddy movie - how on earth is this the same director who did Gosford Park

well GP was considered an anomaly (really, mostly on the surface). Don't be fooled by period and decor.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:27 (nine years ago) link

Three Women - written by Altman, inspired by Persona
Gosford Park - written by the man who gave us Downton Abbey

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:33 (nine years ago) link

also directed by the man who gave us O.C. and Stiggs

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:34 (nine years ago) link

3 Women, according to Altman, came to him in a dream. He and his son were sharing a bed while his wife was in the hospital when he said he saw the whole picture in his head, although not Millie's tuna salad recipe, unfortunately.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:36 (nine years ago) link

speaking of sharing a bed: the glimpse of Pinkie's parents (if they are her parents) in a clinch is one of the most unexpected and touching images I've ever seen in a movie.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 13:37 (nine years ago) link

the scene of them visiting her in hospital actually made me straight up cry

I saw two hourlong TV plays he did for cable in the '80s yesterday: Precious Blood, a two-hander he directed on the stage first, with a dual-narrator/protag format and good performances, one by Alfre Woodard; and a more filmic one with a contrived scenario, The Laundromat, with Carol Burnett and Amy Madigan. Both minor, both worth seeing once.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 January 2015 21:39 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally watched Buffalo Bill. I was 15 when it came out, and I either saw Nashville that year or the next. It was probably in and out of theatres pretty quick. (Seems to have gotten a re-release of sorts in '79, although I'm sure I would have seen it then given the chance.)

Took a while to find its way, but in the end I liked it. Better than A Wedding, I'd say--it's very much in the Bicentennial moment, with lots of carry-over from Nashville in terms of its meditations on celebrity ("'the' show business") and hucksterism and, um, America. (Also some specific echoes: it begins with an American flag, and the one operatic interlude, with the camera taking in the reactions of everyone in the room, reminded me of Nashville's "I'm Easy" scene.) Newman and Lancaster are obviously having a great time, and Joel Grey's malapropisms (or whatever they are) are very inventive. (Among Altman regulars, the only guy who seemed lost was Allan Nicholls.) I've never seen Little Big Man, but Altman's treatment of Sitting Bull's end of the story seemed very empathetic.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 March 2015 14:24 (nine years ago) link

Lester Bangs compared Newman's Buffalo Bill to Dylan on the '74 comeback tour w The Band, especially the acoustic set: presenting himself as a battered Americana show biz legend, in "full scraggle"(don't have his books at hand, but that last phrase was in there). Really comes across on Before The Flood's acoustic side, esp. the seedy speedy anxiety over the finish line of "It's Alright Ma".
Quintet, Newman's (only?) other movie with Altman, is worth seeing too: post-climate change community, filmed in Toronto (?) Winter Olympic Village, where an ultimately deadly game of Quintet is proceeding. *Something* of a Philip K. Dick The Man In The High Castle/Cronenberg existenz vibe, though sloggier than either: it is chilly, baby, and too reserved for most 70s viewers, but still worthy seeing for Altheads.

dow, Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:10 (nine years ago) link

Full scraggle is apt.

I got 20 minutes into Quintet a few years ago, and it's still on the shelf. I've always intended to give it another try, just not sure when.

clemenza, Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link

Newman and Altman were tight bros who apparently just weren't able to get another project together off the ground. In Altman On Altman, Bob mentions "a script about a bear" he had in development with the Weinstein's as a vehicle for Newman and Naomi Watts, but it got stalled because the Weinstein's didn't think Watts was bankable and wanted her off the project (obviously this was pre-Mulholland Drive). Altman wouldn't budge and told them if they wanted her out, they had to tell her themselves.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 March 2015 15:42 (nine years ago) link

As I do with everything from the early-mid '70s, I was trying extract some meaning from Buffalo Bill through the prism of Nixon, missing the obvious--like Nashville, it looks towards Carter, the careful construction of folksy personas and myths. (Accidentally so, I would assume--Carter was probably still a blip when it was being filmed.)

When the film ends on the group shot of the entire Buffalo Bill troupe, I'm surprised Altman didn't underscore the film's dim view of American history by doing what one of the characters suggested: doctor the photo so that Sitting Bull and Halsey were moved over with the other "inujuns."

clemenza, Sunday, 22 March 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

Finally got around to seeing the documentary. It was kinda not great. What a complete waste of access to so many of his collaborators ("Don't, like, tell us anything about actually working with Robert Altman. Just define 'Altmanesque' in five words or fewer and then stare knowingly into the camera for a few seconds."). I'm glad I've seen most of his films since they inexplicably decided to show the endings of so many of his films. The home movie footage and comentary from his wife were the only things that made it at all worthwhile. To the extent that a career-spanning retrospective might function as an enticement to those who might not be familiar with a particular artist, I doubt this thing netted many new Altman fans as it didn't really explore what made him special.

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that doc was super disappointing.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

I kinda wish I'd followed my initial impulse to shut it off in the middle of the minutes-long initially contextless intro of two dudes building a sand castle...

You open your face and all that comes out is garbage. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:14 (eight years ago) link

I didn't hate it, but for sure it could have been a lot better. (I posted a somewhat tepid endorsement above.) It seemed like something that should have been in Ron Mann's comfort zone--rogue '60s guy--but it also felt like commissioned work. The one Mann film I like a lot is Dream Tower, about Toronto's Rochdale College.

clemenza, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Was just skimming the annual seniority list put out by the board I work for. We actually have a teacher with the surname McCabe-Miller (she seemingly gets a double listing, with another one under just her birth name above).

Clearly she married solely on the basis of surname.

clemenza, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:43 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

So Brewster McCloud got a barebones Warner Archive blu-ray release this past week, and being a Houston kid I had to get it... Shelley Duvall is so awesome in it. Nothing but a trailer included, but the transfer is nice and this movie has been otherwise impossible for me to see!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 2 December 2018 06:19 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

does anyone have the Pret-a-Porter / Ready to Wear DVD? stretched so that the bottom third of the screen is black. authoring problem, issue with newer TVs? is this movie really any good anyway?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

Deep Dive on O.C. & Stiggs...which was almost a Stallone or Mike Nichols film.

https://ocandstiggs.tumblr.com/

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Just noticed that Netflix has California Split up (in what looks like the theatrical cut--Runtime 108 Minutes)

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 January 2024 03:58 (three months ago) link

There was a rights issue with some of the songs, has that been solved?

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 21 January 2024 04:04 (three months ago) link

That's hamstrung most home video releases (the DVD was recut by Altman himself) but apparently doesn't affect streaming, as the theatrical cut has also been available on Prime for a few years.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 January 2024 04:16 (three months ago) link

I haven't streamed it myself, but for whatever reason, Netflix was reportedly able to stream the theatrical version for years going back to 2009. More details here (as well as a list of the changes that had to be made and why):

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews21/california_split_dvd_review.htm

A quote from Altman in that link: "The cost of the music track on California Split was so high that Columbia just couldn't put it into video or DVD. That kept it out of circulation for years. Finally, Elliot Gould went in to find out why they weren't releasing it. When they told him it was because of music, he said "Isn't there something we can do about that?" So I made some cuts and took a couple of songs out. We got it into what they considered a reasonable budget. The picture wasn't hurt by it. And that's out now. It doesn't make any difference, the quality of these things. It's as good as anyone sees them..."

birdistheword, Sunday, 21 January 2024 19:52 (three months ago) link

FWIW, Indicator (the UK label owned by Powerhouse) was going to do a deluxe Blu-ray edition for it, but they had to cancel the project long after announcing it due to the music rights issues. Basically it came down to the cost of licensing all the music (yet again), and they didn't have the budget for it - it would've been far more expensive than any title they've done and they didn't want to compromise by using the re-cut version that was put on the DVD.

birdistheword, Sunday, 21 January 2024 19:56 (three months ago) link

I’m never sure if it’s bad luck or bad planning (or just premature announcement) that Indicator has but it feels like between that and Ishtar they’ve had some of the highest profile titles that just fell apart after a lot of legwork had already been put in

badpee pooper (Eric H.), Sunday, 21 January 2024 19:59 (three months ago) link

Haven't watched it for a few years, but what music is there in California Split? All I can remember is "Kansas City," done by the singer in Vegas (in flash-forward, I think--and Gould starts singing along with her as he crosses the street).

clemenza, Sunday, 21 January 2024 20:04 (three months ago) link

Fwiw, I c'n'p-d those notes from DVD Beaver upthread here: Bow down to Robert Altman...

Basically the problem is with the publishers of some of the songs Phyllis Shotwell sings, and a to lesser extent the rights holders for Cheech & Chong's "Basketball Jones" song and promo film.

Oddly enough, the latter appears in every edition of Ashby's Being There.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 January 2024 20:22 (three months ago) link

Phyllis Shotwell, right. And I forgot about "Basketball Jones" (off a TV, I think).

clemenza, Sunday, 21 January 2024 20:35 (three months ago) link

Self-xp

The song <and> video in Being There

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok7Ainmmlvg

Of course, that animation is v.problematic.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 January 2024 20:40 (three months ago) link

From wiki:

"Basketball Jones" was originally seen in theaters in late 1973, before showings of Hal Ashby's The Last Detail at select screens. It can be seen during the 1974 film California Split, directed by Robert Altman, although its use in the film prevented California Split from being released on VHS or Laserdisc due to Columbia Pictures' refusal to pay royalties for the song. Altman later removed the song (but not the cartoon) from the film so it could be released on DVD.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 January 2024 20:53 (three months ago) link

Trying to find some record of whether Phyllis Shotwell is still alive. Highly doubtful, but can't find anything that says she isn't.

clemenza, Sunday, 21 January 2024 21:04 (three months ago) link


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