― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I quit drinking coffee every morning at the same time as I stopped smoking, but I caved on that one the other day. I had two cups yesterday and was crazed all day and didn't know it. So today, no coffee.
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link
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― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
And yeah, I stopped smoking indoors a long time ago and I just got a new car, and I don't smoke in it at all.
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess the most positive thing I can say is, it wasn't as hard as I thought, in that after the first week the time does just seem to go by. Of course there's always the danger of going back but I figure just take things on a day to day basis and you'll be fine.
Running definitely helps and also acts as sort of further motivation, the idea that you can actually be physically fit and a non smoker is an attractive one, I found, anyway.
You'll feel alot better, and I found I slept alot better too, just go for it. In the first 3 weeks I smoked one or two on my birthday, and one or two some other night, I didn't buy a pack though, which I think is key. So don't buy a packet.
I'm not sure about others but I really did find the first week or two hell, but after that it got alot easier.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
My usual smoking crowd is this one girl who just sits at home and watches war movies on DVD and this other hermit who just sits around with his dog smoking his hookah.
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 27 May 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Arms Enthusiast, Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
i gave in eventually, and had one cigarette. it has to be my last one. i am worried about my health
― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
Huh?
Anyways, good luck, Gear. I quit last December, and it was hard as shit. Now, though, it's no big deal. You really do feel better. Hang in there.
― Neb Reyob (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 27 May 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 May 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 27 May 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 May 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Now I feel pretty confident. I would suggest quitting cold-turkey. I am sure there are pros and cons to any method, but cold-turkey has an absoluteness to it. "I did not smoke any today" is far more motivational than "I only had two today."
Also, after a while you start not to like the things. I started actually smelling cigarettes and not liking the smell. I also became much more aware of the smoke. Go into a restaurant and look at the smoking section and the non-smoking section. The non-smoking section is so much nicer.
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― aimurchie, Friday, 28 May 2004 10:34 (nineteen years ago) link
found that by running more and taking Vitamin B6, I was able to pretty easily stop my cravings.
Wow, does this actually work? Even if it's just a placebo, why not, I'll go take some-a those supplements I got months ago & haven't touched.
I can't run right now because I am sore from the other night when I had to run 4 miles total to the store & back to get my dog some syrup of ipecac after he ate roach traps. (excuses) And I don't want to take up a new hobby because I always get frustrated at learning curves. I was good at smoking right from the start. *bittersweet laugh/cry* Maybe I'll just start making art regularly again and maybe meditating more (aka zoning out to drone in semi-dissociative state and eventually taking a nap).
― Abbott, Sunday, 8 July 2007 20:10 (sixteen years ago) link
So the ONtario government will send you a five week supply of nicotine inhalers for free if you agree to participate in their "study" which consists of three no doubt long and irritating phone calls over the course of the next year.. http://stopstudy.ca I foolishly started smoking again in June after 6-8 months without, and I've tried to quit a few times since and it's been a lot harder. I suspect it'll get easier soon as I can only smoke outside and it's starting to get very cold and terrible outside, but I just tried my nicotine inhaler's first puff and it's an incredible replication of smoking without the smell, smoke or being outside in the cold. Apparently it doesn't contain the many other toxins that you would find in a cigarette, only the nicotine. Anyone else ever use one to quit?
― skeletal lexing (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I believe I would just get addicted to those.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link
it depends on how much you believe your addiction is due to chemical dependence and how much you believe your addiction is due to habit. in my case it was mostly the latter.
― ℵℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜ℘! (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link
former for the first three days, latter for the next 8 months
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link
...then i started again, of course
meditating more (aka zoning out to drone in semi-dissociative state and eventually taking a nap).― Abbott, Sunday, July 8, 2007 8:10 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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― Smellishis Poon (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 02:43 (fifteen years ago) link
hey, been about two months!
― donna rouge, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Haven't smoked since August of 2007 but I swear to God, I just started craving one.
― roxymuzak, Monday, 1 December 2008 06:01 (fifteen years ago) link
don't!
― jordan s (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 December 2008 06:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, I'm not gonna.
― roxymuzak, Monday, 1 December 2008 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link
― donna rouge, Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:02 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark
i "broke edge" when i was in georgia two weeks ago (for some reason i can't resist when it's legal to smoke in a bar) but that's been it since quitting in august
― most important concept of all -- THE CONCEPT OF LOVE (donna rouge), Monday, 1 December 2008 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link
This morning an insurance agent asked me if I smoked, and I said "no," and realized I've been off them for a year and a half. This is pretty much a miracle for me. I loved smoking and did it for twenty-plus years. I have been through some REALLY AWFUL PERSONAL LIFE SHIT since I quit and it hasn't even been a problem, and have gotten drunk innumerable times without goin' "fuck it, I'm drunk, I gotta smoke!"
I just wanted to testify because it felt really great to actually feel, in response to the question "do you smoke?": "of course not"
― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 15 May 2009 14:14 (fourteen years ago) link
High fives, duder! High fucking fives. I haven't smoked since February and this breathing thing is a thing I can totally dig.
― test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Friday, 15 May 2009 15:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Abbott let me just tell you that this time next year you are gonna 1) barely remember that you used to smoke and 2) have one of these "fuck yeah, this is way better!" moments when you do remember
― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 15 May 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
High fucking fives!
― test drives at ur own risk i cant go with you too many bees (Abbott), Friday, 15 May 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder if the next questions of the insurance man was: have you smoked in the past..
― Ludo, Friday, 15 May 2009 19:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i like the lozenges okay, but smoking nicotine via cigarettes has always been a VERY effective medication for me. a la prozac or whatever. it really did keep me sane/stable/level and it made dealing with people much easier. but i can get used to the lozenges. and i do really want to quit. so many benefits to not smoking it's kinda hard to count them all up. but it was my smoky valium for 30 years. it got rid of my twitchiness and nervous/panic/crazed/ocd behavior in a very real way. and lozenges are different. but effective. i like the extra energy i have. i get right up in the morning. i do feel better. (it DOES get a little easier every time i try. i feel better about my chances this time.)
and i don't really want to go on actual medication if i can help it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link
good luck scott. really wanting to quit is more than half the battle. i know that sounds trite but it's true
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 11 January 2017 21:56 (seven years ago) link
hamster diaper (portion snus)
ha ha never heard this term before, though my girlfriend called them "shitbags"ive been cigarette free for 4 years it seems now, and snus free for 2.5. congrats to all who've successfully kicked it and good luck to all trying.
thinking back now, my initial difficulty with kicking smoking was that going for a cigarette was a specific activity that i did that was no longer part of my routine. i would get the cravings and feel the compulsion to do the smoking activity. on the other hand, snus was something that i just always had in my mouth while doing other things. so when i stopped using snus, there was no empty space in my daily routine that i would feel compelled to fill with tobacco
― just another (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link
Smokes while drinking (and after sex) is one thing but the hardest for me is that when I'm doing my monthly orders (the shittiest part of my job), I'd have a cigarette after I finished each company - one after Marvel, one after DC, etc. and they were a nice reward/break from staring at spreadsheets.
I'm lucky that only comes once a month, if I had developed that particular habit around an office job where it was day in/day out, I'd be fucked.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:13 (seven years ago) link
wellbutrin works p well for me
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:14 (seven years ago) link
I smoke five cigarettes a day on average, seven max. I quit maybe once a week, and last two days max. I don't patch or vape or anything.
Something magical happened in February 2015. I quit for an entire month and I've never felt better, happier. It's clear that cigarette addiction is a major fucker with my brain patterns. I quit again in July 2015 and got six days in. I remember on Day Four onward feeling like my world had suddenly got so much brighter, I was (actually) skipping everywhere. Skipping down the hallway, down the street.
But my personal life in 2016 continued to be filled with assholism and I kept smoking again. I am getting spider veins on my ribcage, can't be good. Today is my Day One of actually never again.
― fgti, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 22:35 (seven years ago) link
Did I mention that what I took for cravings for many years actually was a sore throat due to reflux? After almost 9 years of not having smoked a single fag I did not really progress. For the last couple of years I always told myself that I will go on with the non-smoking up till my tenth anniversary. On that day I want to reward myself with a joint! That idea has kept me going. I am a little afraid of what will happen. But it has been planned for so long, it can't go wrong, can it? I mean I want to smoke one joint and then nothing for a couple of years...
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
I have gone through the 14 stages of grief since January 1st.
1) hmmm, heroin instead?
2) kill you
3) kill me
4) kill everybody
5) can only watch old westerns 10 hours a day
6) wake up in morning and fantasize about fistfights i'd like to have on the street with strangers
7) ritalin? meth? crack? armed robbery?
8) just don't talk to anyone just don't talk to anyone just don't talk to anyone
9) couples therapy!
10) so much ice cream.........
11) okay fine i gotta find a shrink
12) the dreams in which i'm dying are the best i've ever had (also all of a sudden i'm giving blowjobs in my dreams? #freudsucks)
13) fuck the internet gonna go kick a soccer ball with my kids...
14) 15th greatest player of Resogun:Demolition for PS4 in the world
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
Well, I'm pleased to say that it's been well over a year now and I've thankfully managed to stay quit - it's amazing how much of a long drawn out process quitting smoking actually is. It really does take a very long time, but it does get better and it's totally worth going through. Now I go through entire weeks without thinking about smoking at all, and if I do it's in my mind for a split second and out again.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
Weirdly, as an ex-smoker I find people who vape more annoying than people that smoke ... at least people who smoke know that they smoke, whereas people who vape think they don't!
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
Uhm, no. I'm pretty sure people who vape know they still smoke. It isn't "weird(ly)", you sympathize more with the people who were addicted the same way you were. Not rocket science.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
vaping is so much grosser to me. which makes no sense. but it also annoys me more.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link
See, I don't get that. Vaping - from my Western European view - is def a USA thing. But why does it annoy you? Does it "annoy" in a "I watched a porn but sadly teh guys were wearing rubbers" kind of way? (which I also wouldn't get, tbc)
It's "healthier" than smoking cigs. So where's the annoyance?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
i stopped smoking on january 1st. and i have smoked a total of twice since. both times at music shows this summer where friends were playing. i made the decision and i stand by those decisions.
i still use the nicotine lozenges every day. i don't know when i'll stop with that. i still think i would need a couple of days of isolation on the couch with no human contact and i think i could be through with them too.
i took microdoses of psychedelic mushrooms this summer to help me. i was having a really rough summer. and i think it did help! wouldn't recommend it to anyone else though. i've been taking over the counter L-Theanine and Lithium Orotate every day for months. that seems to help too. i've been putting off seeing a pill doctor though. i don't know why. i just hate going to doctors. it HAS gotten easier in just the last month or so. i want to smoke less and less.
i've been smoking pot a little bit recently. which is new. i'm not a big pothead. the good thing is that the pot smoking doesn't make me wish that i had a cigarette. which is a good sign.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
"It's "healthier" than smoking cigs. So where's the annoyance?"
i think when i see it i just see the huge plumes of smoke and it looks really gross to me. it seems grubbier in a way. i don't claim to understand why. it just does. i mean i realize that smoking cigarettes can be a grubby thing too.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link
I think there was a point in 2013 where local house-fires caused by dodgy vape chargers, were becoming much more frequent than fires caused by drunken smokers/sleepy chip pan maestros. I think if I was to start smoking again it would deffo be the ol' killer ciggies. But addictions and their increasing variety of delivery systems in this age is maybe a good thing, the more the merrier perhaps? Maybe alcohol patches/vapers might be next. Getting pissed without putting on the weight wouldn't be much fun, but maybe an improvement on sniffing surgical spirits or glue!
― calzino, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
Of course it's "weird(ly)", those are the words I intended to type, did type and meant. You would think that I would find being around people that smoke more annoying than being around people that vape, but it's the opposite.
I know several people over the last year who've told me straight faced that they've stopped smoking, but have merely just replaced cigarettes with a vape. So you haven't quit, then. Also, in my experience, those that vape seem to give even less of a fuck than smokers do, including myself when I was smoking.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
(xxxxxxpost obviously)
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
Having said that, even when I was smoking I could never really see the point of vaping - obviously, there's been decades of medical research gone into the long term health risks of smoking vs. the long term health risks of vaping, so just how healthier it actually is remains to be seen.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, September 12, 2017 8:47 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah I can see that. Also grubby is not good.
Still a smoker myself tbh, and don't desire quitting for another year at least.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link
tbf you don't have to set your vape to churn out masses of vapour, that's just twats.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
smoked a few hand rolls in Barcelona with my cousin. They were glorious!! first time i smoked in something like 7 years. no desire to start again or anything but they were nice in the moment .
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 September 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link
don't tell me these kind of things, i have more than nine years without smoking and was thinking of allowing myself a joint on the tenth birthday. but somehow i doubt that i will risk it...
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:51 (six years ago) link
I did a year and a half without smoking and loved it, but then at a crazy wedding party I started again and have been smoking (at parties) on/off since :'(
Have recently moved and used the opportunity to quit again, hoping I can stay clean this time
― niels, Thursday, 28 September 2017 13:58 (six years ago) link
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Tuesday, September 12, 2017 5:12 PM (two weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
we don't have this research on vaping yet! the consensus feeling is that it is safer than combustible tobacco, but it will be a long time before we really know much about the health risks of vaping
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 September 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
i worked with a pulmonologist, probably in his sixties, who recommended e-cigarettes to a guy in his seventies who had been smoking for over 50 years. i thought that was pretty progressive
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 September 2017 14:05 (six years ago) link
Nearly three years without so much as a puff and do not miss it one bit, aside from very occasional cravings which come at weird and unpredictible times - in the pub or at parties I usually couldn't give a shit. I don't feel markedly better physically for having given up, but I relish being free of the addiction.
― chap, Thursday, 28 September 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
now that it is £10 + for a 20 pack, the temptation to start smoking again is very much reduced for me. To smoke and drink you have to be pretty rich these days!
― calzino, Thursday, 28 September 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link
sheeit, I can remember paying 67p for 10 Berkley king size.
― calzino, Thursday, 28 September 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I always forget how much they cost... before stopping, I was smoking rolling tobacco for years, but I was in the shop yesterday behind someone who was buying some cigarettes and I was stunned at the price.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 28 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
Although, I've been told they've changed the way rolling tobacco is sold too?
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 28 September 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link
i picked it up again in march-april after some stressful life stuff. been smoke-free for three weeks except last night i bought a pack, ugh. probably smoked 1/3 of it and it made me feel so gross. poured water on the rest and threw them away. i can't afford it, it makes me feel like shit, i'm trying to run and it ruins it. still quitting is hard every time.
― you bet, nancy (map), Monday, 7 May 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link
any users have experience with the patch or gum here
i used the patch years ago and again recently and the nightmares are terrible, i suppose that is the nicotine in your blood
the gum 2 MG or 4 MG is better, despite the occasional burning sensation in the mouth but I cannot say it actually reduces my urge to smoke
the inhaler device made it so i could not sleep all night, absolutely worse than the patch
i have found in the past when i quit for 3 years that i just had to get beyond the first 3 days of the psychological shit and then 21 days later i was essentially fine...have these anti-smoking tools helped anyone
― Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link
I find the Allen Carr method v efficient and it's all about realizing nicotine doesn't really add any value to your life, patches/gum/vaping may help change your addiction to something much less harmful but imo better to altogether rid yourself of the nicotine urge
― niels, Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
sounds reasonable, thanks niels
― Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:01 (five years ago) link
sure thing, his book's readily available online, recommend it if you haven't read it, it's a bit brainwashy but gets the job done
― niels, Friday, 17 August 2018 11:15 (five years ago) link
I know this is thread is primarily about cigarette smoking, but I started juuling a couple of years ago during a particularly stressful time for me personally and always felt shitty about it, though it is fun and a good way to pass the time. it does almost nothing for me now beyond the satisfaction of seeing the cloud, but it's been hard to find the will to kick it and it doesn't help that all the women I've dated over the past year have been smokers or vapers. anyway I realized my ex had left her chantix pack at my apartment and I've been using it for two weeks and am definitely noticing a reduction in the cravings -- I know I'm doing it wrong but I'm cutting back which I like. I've been getting stomach upset with the 1mg doses though -- the dreams actually are a lot of fun
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link
if you ever want those endless lucid dreams without the chantix pack I'd recommend some Rhodiola Rosea aka arctic root!
― calzino, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
I invented a new method of quitting. I've been smoke-free for a week on it.
Basically, I've decided to make some changes in my life in ways that both "play to my strengths" as well as "take advantage of my weaknesses". One of my biggest weaknesses? laziness. So: I'm quitting smoking with The Lazy Method.
It works like this. I ran out of cigarettes a week ago, and the store is a fifteen minute walk away, and every time I had a nicotine craving, I just told myself "ennnh but the store is so far away" and "ennnh but then I'd have to get dressed and leave the house" and "ennnh but I'm so comfy on this couch/in this bed" and so on.
Gonna see if I can't publish The Lazy Method, make a mil off this plan
― remember how much your mother loves you (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 8 January 2024 19:34 (three months ago) link
I managed to stop twice for long periods. But the last time I didn't have the vigour to go through nicotine withdrawal again so got into vaping, which isn't really stopping. But currently I'm stressed out and sad so I'm retreating back into ciggie and alcohol abuse. I've not actually bought any cigarettes yet, still guiltily working through my partner's cigarette stash. She's lost all her mobility after a fall down the stairs and the hip replacement op didn't make anything better, and she's got dementia so has had to go into residential care because she couldn't be safely based upstairs or downstairs in our house.
Depressing shit aside, I'm determined to stop drinking and vaping this year. Vaping might not be as bad as smoking but it still makes my lungs feel like shit and chemical addictions are just a very irritating pain in the arse to maintain.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 January 2024 20:52 (three months ago) link
i quit smoking a few years back and am so happy vaping wasn't as developed and easy as it is now (it was hard work to vape then). i'd definitely be a hardcore vaper if i'd quit even a year later.
― stirmonster, Monday, 8 January 2024 23:20 (three months ago) link
it's my understanding that vaping can actually help with quitting, but only if you stop smoking actual cigarettes... if you carry on doing both, it's no good
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 January 2024 23:29 (three months ago) link
yeah, but you are just changing the nicotine delivery system, so when you switch it isn't really much of an accomplishment. Overcoming your nicotine addiction - that takes work.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 January 2024 23:36 (three months ago) link
During my second stopping period I used patches. One day I felt really bad, had a complete inability to concentrate. My vision was going crazy and was hyper anxious, ready to murder anybody who even said good morning to me. Then I realised I'd forgotten to put the patch on that morning.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 8 January 2024 23:48 (three months ago) link
xp agreed.. I guess it's more of a harm reduction thing. And I've known people who actually quit smoking, but then went on to vape for many many years, which is still a harmful addiction
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 8 January 2024 23:48 (three months ago) link
Allen Carr didn't work for me. It worked at first, but then I got stressed and bought a pack. Then my brain wrote a subroutine to deal with Allen Carr: it started imagining that every cigarette was my last. "oooh yeah, this is the last one of these disgusting things," I'd think, stubbing it out. Then I'd run a half-pack under water. Then I'd buy a new pack an hour later. It was nuts.
The best thing about reading Allen Carr tho was learning about how the actual nicotine cravings pass after three days. This is absolutely true. Day four no cigs feels magical. From then on it's just mental discipline, ime
Don't vape it's so stupid and bad. I'm glad my bf vapes instead of smokes but I'm gonna press him into trying The Lazy Method himself, he's pretty lazy too so it might work
― remember how much your mother loves you (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 00:21 (three months ago) link
oooh yeah, this is the last one of these disgusting things
When I was still working in San Francisco, I used to periodically find packs sitting on park benches, with one cigarette missing. I'd bring 'em to the band practice studio, they were usually American Spirit or something fancy like that
― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 9 January 2024 00:25 (three months ago) link
I think Carr was actively bad for me, I think he kept me waiting for some kind of joyous smoke free nirvana state that never came
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 01:57 (three months ago) link
actual nicotine cravings pass after three days. This is absolutely true. Day four no cigs feels magical. From then on it's just mental discipline, ime
Deep agreement here. As I said more than ten years ago... getting the nicotine out of my system was a huge hurdle. After that it was mostly dealing with the thousands of mental triggers that told me it was time to have a cigarette. After at least a year of that struggle, it came down to fighting against a certain nostalgia, a golden-hued sense that, once, long ago, I had a beautiful relationship with cigarettes, and they were waiting for me to come back and hug them. That faded out after about a decade.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 9 January 2024 02:13 (three months ago) link
Being a nurse didn't stop her. Volunteering for the Cancer Society didn't stop her. My dad dying of esophageal cancer didn't stop her. Her own lymphoma didn't stop her. What finally stopped my mom from smoking after nearly 70 years was the ever-increasing price of a pack.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 January 2024 16:04 (three months ago) link