What is the nadir of human popular culture?

I mean, at least Grease has songs like Greased Lightning, which has dirty lyrics.

Besides- Xanadu. Much worse than Grease.

hey tom, are we supposed to pelt you with rocks for posting? or does that only apply to ilm? ;)

Musicals in general, really.

I was so horrified when I saw it - I was like, hell no, get out of my neighborhood, Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks, pff.

Actually anything sold in a 'head shop' with a picture of an alien 'grey' on it is possibly worse than Grease.

Reasons for "Grease". i. it is awful. ii. it won't die. It's always on, live, somewhere in the world, it has spawned countless 'megamixes', it blights all weddings, and almost every time people on a sitcom are involved in a musical it's bloody Grease.

Tom, you've obviously never seen Small Wonder.

And no, I'm sorry, there is no good reason to bring an android on a show if it's an annoying little girl that doesn't get killed or deprogrammed.

Though that might actually make him cool. I mean pure evil is awesome.

A soft porn movie on hbo a couple of years back that starred Neil Hannon, or at least his twin. How was it plausible that he would get so many women? Plus, who wants to see him get it on? Not me, thanks.

Talk about absolutely wretch inducing...

Incidentally I am very pleased that Survivor with its stupidly complex rules and ridiculous D&D style 'tribal names' and nastily healthy of-the-fittest undertones has been a massive flop here whereas Big Brother which is people sitting on their arses has once again been a huge hit.

I wish the french version of Big Brother would get shown here. It's called Loft Story and it's just people having sex. The decency leages in France (!?!??!?!!?!?!??!?!) picket the headquarters because it's so disgusting, apparently.

Tom: You've completely ruined my illusion of French tv, you know.

Re: Greed. It's been cancelled in the States, so perhaps your version soon will be as well.

I recommend now that Mariah is the nadir of pop culture.

Larry King. Out of This World (a syndicated sitcom that makes Small Wonder look like Alan Moore's Watchmen - starring Joe Alasky!!). Pat Boone's heavy metal album. Crocodile Dundee III (whatever the hell the sub-title was). The Macarena (speaking of wedding blights). Dennis Rodman. John Carpenter's Vampires. Barney. Jesse "The Body" Ventura as a US Governor AND commentator for the XFL. Milli Vanilli. Geri Halliwell's version of "It's Raining Men". Michael Stipe "announcing" that he's gay. Vanilla Ice as a nu-metal kingpin. Courtney Love, whenever she opens her mouth outside of a movie set. Marlon Brando talking about those gosh-darn pesky Jews. Carl Lewis "singing" the national anthem. Music journalists going on MTV to declare what makes a "rock star" and a "player" and a "baller" and a "playa hater". Hell - music journalists on television in toto.

Ooooo! MTV making TV shows about itself!

I'm sorry - what was the question?

PS - Here's an entry from X-Entertainment.com - the Corey Haim Video Diary. Funny stuff.

Not because it's sexist and demeaning towards women, but because the entire concept of selling these videos is predicated on the assumption that people are desperate to buy a videotape that contains nothing but an hour of WOMEN PULLING UP THEIR SHIRTS! How SCANDALOUS! Like you can't see that on Cinemax (aka Skin- emax) or Showtime (aka Ho-time) after 11 PM every night. Or hell, get even raunchier stuff on pay-per-view. Or from the video store.

It's completely asinine, although not as asinine as the extreme wrestling/topless women with awful implants videos they hawk REALLY late at night...

I always wanted to be in that video to embarass my family, but I'm not a college coed so I'm being unfairly discriminated against.

thank you all for playing.

As far as "Girls Gone Wild" - I saw this newspiece on the BurlyBear site that exposed the TRUTH behind this series. When the more level-headed female spring- breakees decline such an enticing offer, the filmmakers just bring in some adult-film stars to do the deeds. Of course, it seems that drunk women are often just as willing to shake their non-wire-bound money makers.

So, yeah, Ally - you CAN be in these videos, without having to pay any tuition or fees! Oh, glorious day! (I'm gonna get me some of those chicken cutlets / bra inserts & run down to Daytona Beach RIGHT NOW! Penis be damned. Woo!)

Side-bar: Would the nadir of canine popular culture be the Dogs Playing Poker portrait, or that gawd-awful interpretation of Jingle Bells?

1. rubbish 'Reality TV' (?) - it seems to be on every night. I'd be ashamed to watch that.

2. The British tabloid press - always awful (in my lifetimes, at least) and awful still; among the worst public influences on British politics and culture.

3. All those crappy records that people on ILM - some of whom I consider delightful people - are always going on about.

I consider the issue of the (then still Daily) Mirror for Monday 24th June 1996, which attempted to turn the England-Germany Euro 96 semi- final into a replay of the Second World War, to be the nadir of England per se, the lowest point in its stupid tendency to draw bridges, define itself by what it is not, fight battles that finished decades ago, etc., etc. Everyone involved should be (and indeed many, I think, now are) ashamed of themselves.

Also the time last year when the Sunday Mirror attacked England followers for holding a warlike, combative mentality while in the same paper referring to the England team as "Our Boys" and Germany as "the old enemy". Indeed, they got noted right-wing hack Quentin Letts to rant on about England "thugs" thinking in terms of "The Great Escape" while alluding to that very film in the headline of their report of the match. Hold me back.

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it actually probably was Temptation Island

who hates grease?

13 years ago was an innocent time.

I'm going to nominate You, Me and Dupree