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NBC says Conan O’Brien will take over for Jay Leno on Tonight in 5 years
By David Bauder
NEW YORK (AP) — NBC announced Monday that Conan O’Brien will take over from Jay Leno as host of the Tonight show. But he’ll have time to write his jokes — the planned succession won’t happen until 2009.
The announcement solves a delicate problem for NBC, which realized O’Brien was getting antsy in his Late Night time slot (12:35 a.m. Eastern) and wanted to keep him from jumping to another network.
Leno planned to make the announcement on Monday’s edition of Tonight, a special celebration of the talk show’s 50th anniversary.
“In 2009, I’ll be 59 years old and will have had this dream job for 17 years,” Leno said. “When I signed my new contract, I felt that the timing was right to plan for my successor and there is no one more qualified than Conan.”
“Plus, I promised Mavis I would take her out for dinner before I turned 60,” the notoriously workaholic Leno said about his wife.
Leno took over from Johnny Carson on Tonight in 1992 and after a few years of trailing the man he beat out for the job in the ratings — David Letterman — he passed the CBS star and has been dominant in the time slot.
An unknown at the time, O’Brien had the thankless job of taking over from Letterman on Late Night, and he was nearly fired after several weeks of painful shows. But he recovered and has been a critical and commercial success.
But O’Brien has openly talked about wanting to move on and, in the late-night world, that means an earlier time slot.

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

10,000 men of Harvard
Want vict'ry today
For they know that o'er old Eli
Fair Harvard holds sway
So then we'll conquer old Eli's men
And when the game ends, we'll sing agin:
10,000 men of Harvard
Gained vict'ry today! (in five years)

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

i wonder if they will have to water down the show to pander to the older audience. that would be sad.

Emilymv (Emilymv), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I expect that given five years, Conan will be watering himself down.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I WILL ONLY WATCH IF HE BRINGS BACK ANDY (which might be plausible, given the shitty shows Andy's been getting).

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Andy was in the M-K & A O movie.

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Is he the only actor to have worked with both Robert Altman and the Olsen Twins?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Has Eugene Levy ever?
Bob Saget went from working with the Olsen Twins to make jokes about sucking cock for crack in a Dave Chappelle movie.

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

http://netmeme.org/blog/archives/images/conan-needle-tower.jpg

kephm, Monday, 27 September 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan was a dick to me once (in a rather off-handed way) in college, and I still think he's overrated. But Leno sucks so bad that this qualifies as good news.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

(which might be plausible, given the shitty shows Andy's been getting)

I hope you're not talking about "Andy Richter Controls the Universe." That was a great show. And Paget Brewster still makes me feel funny down there.

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan was a dick to me once (in a rather off-handed way) in college

Story?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope you're not talking about "Andy Richter Controls the Universe." That was a great show.

I didn't like it.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oh, just me trying to get onto the Harvard Lampoon staff, we freshmen submitted "humor" pieces and staff members wrote (usually comically abusive) comments on the back, my submissions were pretty ass admittedly but one of them I was very proud of, not sure if it was my Bedrock/James Dean mashup "Rubble Without a Cause" or my Hunter Thompson rewrite of "In Watermelon Sugar," anyway, he dismissed it out of hand and was snotty about it, "Fear and Loathing is one of my favorite books and you blew it," something like that, teh facts is less good than teh blanket character assassination

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan does kind of seem like he might be a dick in real life, but he is at least exponentially funnier than Leno.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, his writers are. Without Andy to offset him, he's just an unfunny combination of pushy and whiny. He's the worst interviewer on TV, daytime TV included.

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't Letterman supposedly a dick in real life too?

Nonac Oneirb, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

All comedians ever = dicks.

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Shouldn't we all start assuming (if we haven't already) that rich and famous people are dicks? Just to be on the safe side?

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't Letterman supposedly a dick in real life too?

I can't imagine him being anything but. Back in the old days, that was his whole appeal. The "man on the street being a dick to regular people" bits were mean-spirited and genius.

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

i wonder if they will have to water down the show to pander to the older audience. that would be sad.
-- Emilymv (emilyventer...), September 27th, 2004.

as opposed to the 200 proof undiluted power that is conan's current show? puhleeze. talk shows are lame.

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

10,000 men of Harvard
Want vict'ry today
For they know that o'er old Eli
Fair Harvard holds sway
So then we'll conquer old Eli's men
And when the game ends, we'll sing agin:
10,000 men of Harvard
Gained vict'ry today! (in five years)

am I the only one who felt like throwing a paperweight at Dan while reading this? Or am I the only ILXors with the boorish manners of a Yalie?

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like throwing a paperweight at people who delude themselves that talk shows can actually be "edgy"

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude The McLaughlin Group is out there. Supposedly that guy was grilling Carole King about 50 Cent.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It is all relative, dude.

dude xpost

bnw (bnw), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Compare Jaywalking to the Masturbating Bear, though.

xpost

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

who's old Eli?

Symplistic (shmuel), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

according to my source, Carole announced that she did know 50 Cent but that it's actually FIDDY Cent (insp. McLaughlin to yell "FIDDY! FIDDY CENT!") and when she asked why he wanted to know he explained that his wife was a fan. This was all after he asked if she liked rap, if she liked hip-hop and then asked if she liked rap again.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like conan et al are just prostrating themselves every time they do a celebrity interview, it's a fucking horror show. that conan seems to balk just a bit humanizes him, but doesn't make the show any more bearable. leno is not human.

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

worse yet: not funny.

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i think nothing on tv dignifies the shitstorm of valuelessness that is advertising, but this is neither the time nor place to discuss it.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Conan should have jumped networks for an 11:30 show *now*. If that didn't work, in 5 years he could have just come back!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

OTM. He'll be *worse* than Leno in 5 years.

why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

that's impossible

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

we have laws that keep people from being worse than leno

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan isn't "edgy," but he and his writers often present an amusing sort of absurd humor (without the kind of Letterman-esque self-conscious "wackiness") that appeals to me.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

The only way Conan could possibly be worse than Leno would be if he suddenly morphed into a transsexual Hitler and his entire show consisted of him shouting "HONOR THE FUEHRER!" while shooting jalepeno peppers out of his ass.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait , that would make him WORSE?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, if you like Hitlerboobs, be my guest.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

am., how do you feel about the talk show aspects of the Daily Show (mainly Jon Stewart's interviews of various celebrities and politicians)?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan isn't "edgy," but he and his writers often present an amusing sort of absurd humor

Exactly.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree, I like his sketches a lot more than his interviews, which are mostly about him anyway.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

And since when has edgy = good?

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

if he suddenly morphed into a transsexual Hitler and his entire show consisted of him shouting "HONOR THE FUEHRER!" while shooting jalepeno peppers out of his ass

I see where you're going with this point, but that would be totally awesome. I'd watch that every night. "Hney look! It's the Tranny Hitler Ass Pepper show!" I mean, how could that not be entertaining?

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, if he was shooting them at the guests (and actually able to keep the big time celebs showing up) this would be the best show of all time.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

You people would make a horrible porn site focus group.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

we're not talking about porn!

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe we should be.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

'Cuz Conan really SUCKS these days.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Did anyone catch the episode last spring where Conan got mail from Finland (as a part of the "Conan O'Brien Hates My Country" series)? I haven't got a nationalist bone in me, but it was still kinda weird and cool hearing the Finnish national anthem in his show while he praised our wood industry and mocked Sweden.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

xp As far as cursing goes, that's pretty much restricted to premium cable.

jam master (jaymc), Monday, 12 April 2010 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link

TBS, along with WGN and WOR, was one of basic cable's first "superstations." It was an Atlanta market entity early on that just aired reruns of Gilligan's Island and I Dream of Jeannie and showed old black & white movies all night. It could be picked up over the air in Atlanta w/o having to subscribe to cable, but I have no idea if that's still the case.

Anyway, the audience will be a fraction of what he was getting on NBC, despite a huge portion of the country having access to TBS. Since TBS has no late local newscast, he suffers from not getting the traditional late night show lead-in.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

tbs is better than fox simply because this way I don't have to watch fox.

but if he was going cable, I still don't see why he didn't try for comedy central - a block w/ the daily show and colbert would have been amazing and I think could get a sizeable audience in the long-term, esp since it's already starting out w/ one.

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

WTF is TBS?

James Mitchell, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:02 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ new channel motto

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

you mean that's not their current motto?

Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

10pm is Comedy Central's "prime time" for all their original shows like South Park, i don't think they'd move that around to have another nightly talk show.

some dude, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link

btw my illusions are totally shattered right now, i <3 Weinberg and consider him such an integral part of the show. i mean if he's not a nice guy irl it's okay, but it seems odd since so much of his presence in the show's comedy was about inventing implausible ways in which he's supposedly a horrible person.

some dude, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Since TBS has no late local newscast, he suffers from not getting the traditional late night show lead-in.

iirc payne and family guy reruns at 10 pm do pretty well and are likely very male heavy which should benefit conan

jeff, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

if the House of Payne viewership is male-heavy, I will eat a hat

Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

late local newscasts are for old people ie not Conan's core demo

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess that's true. I just wonder how many within our demo will remember to flip to TBS at 11. I probably will, but I stay up late and catch catch the 1:30 repeats of Daily Show and Colbert.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

can catch

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

let me rephrase - house of payne does huge ratings. additionally, family guy does well esp. with young males.

jeff, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Channels don't mean anything anymore. If people found Mad Men on AMC and The Shield on FX I'm sure this will do fine (if it's good).

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Monday, 12 April 2010 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i think poly is pretty otm -- this could do really well on tbs very funny considering that pretty much all of tbs's promo/marketing work has already been done for them & will continue to be done for them by journalists & the internet -- if the show is funny it could def capitalize on a big first week buzz

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 April 2010 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't know a hell of a lot about how late night shows are booked but could conan run into trouble booking big name guests over fallon & craig ferguson (to say nothing of letterman & leno)? or does the name recognition of guests not even matter?

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently, Conan's going to finally own the show like Letterman does with his own. If the ratings are there (and they will be), he'll be beholden to no one but his own whims.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

10pm is Comedy Central's "prime time" for all their original shows like South Park, i don't think they'd move that around to have another nightly talk show.

south park + a million failed shows

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I never know exactly what's coming on after South Park from week to week.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

all I know is that it's probably gonna suck. 'ugly americans' has got to be the worst thing on television right now.

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I watched five minutes of it. That was enough.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder how much of their original programming is designed to make "Drawn Together" look like the pinnacle of modern comedy in retrospect.

Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't go that far!

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I was considering mentioning 'drawn together' but I don't even want to think about it

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the fact that that show survived for 3 SEASONS is mindblowing

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

It was like television for juggalos.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Coming straight to DVD in one week: Drawn Together: The Movie

Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

what the

Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

like, I'm the only person on ILX who ever said anything kind about "Drawn Together" and I think that is a terrible, terrible idea

Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

so bizarrely conan's first road show was tonight in eugene, OR, which is where i live. we rarely get awesome things right here in town so my sisters and i went. it was basically a two-hour homage to the best bits of the show and it was pretty satisfying. andy richter was there! tbh i was more excited about seeing him than anyone else.

conan performed like six songs with the band in between comedy bits, and Spoon was in town for a concert so they showed up and played "i summon you." he also brought back the walker texas ranger lever (for legal reasons now called the "chuck norris rural policeman handle") and randomly brought out jack mcbrayer from 30 rock to pull it. i don't think he said a word, he just grinned in that elfish way he has.

he only mentioned the TBS thing in passing, but he seemed to be in genuinely good spirits and he and the band and everyone really went all-out. no max weinberg, but plenty of la bamba.

the international mooncake trade (reddening), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link

How George Lopez started his show last night:

http://www.tbs.com/video/index.jsp?oid=214335

(Spoiler: He's not funny.)

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

all I know is that it's probably gonna suck. 'ugly americans' has got to be the worst thing on television right now.

― iatee, Monday, April 12, 2010 2:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this show is mindblowingly bad

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Lopez thing was pretty unfunny, until they busted on Jay Leno. I can get behind that from anyone.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

a train on jay leno, is what you're saying

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Last night George Lopez had Chris Rock on the show. He made three audience members play "Chris Rock Band". They recited Chris Rock routines to the audience while Chris Rock stood there and listened.

To say that Chris Rock looked mortified is an understatement.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

lol probably about the same way i look whenever a person i know recites a Chris Rock routine irl

sipster cuppies (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ed3wjGWns

HOOS zing-steen (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Conan will film on the Warner lot

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/conan-obrien-to-film-tbs-_n_578365.html

We should probably make the Conan on TBS anticipation thread sometime.

Cunga, Monday, 17 May 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

This was only fun when there was frantic hair-pulling and eye-gouging between Conan, Leno and the NBC execs.

Aimless, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still looking forward to the show. Stewart and Colbert both repeat about 4 times per day, so I can catch them after the fact.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Roffle:

Big news on the late night TV battlefront today: The Tonight Show with Jay Leno posted its lowest-rated Q2 -- the first full quarter since Leno came back as host after Conan O'Brien was dumped -- since the Late Show with David Letterman launched on CBS in 1993.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

ned, you have made me happy by posting that.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

JAY "BIG JAW" LENO HAS DESTROYED THE TONIGHT-SHOW FRANCHISE

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Read a review of Conan's live show somewhere and they said he mostly just made jokes about the controversy for most of the time. Is this true? Sounds like it would get old fast.

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it's funny. i saw a "tweet" from o'brien the other day, riffing on the controversy, and it fell flat for me.

but he's a funny -- and, here's the key -- inventive guy. he'll find new material. also: bitterness can be a great springboard for comedy.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ConanOBrien

I don't care where LeBron James ends up... As long as it's not at 11pm on TBS.
about 3 hours ago via web

richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah. i love conan o'brien. but move on.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Perrin on the new Bill Carter book on the Conan-Leno war:

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2010/12/giggle-in-beast.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 December 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for sharing that. it prompted me to reserve the book for when it's back at the library.

Cunga, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link


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