Have you ever been to a race? What is it like? Are some tracks better than others? Do you have a favorite driver?
Also, how did we get from simple "stock-car racing" to the corporate acronym/honorific? Is there something a little or more than a little creepy about how the image of the enterprise is manufactured, and the related restrictions placed upon the personalities?
Most importantly, why?
(note that John Kerry never actually uttered the words in the thread title, but this didn't prevent media outlets of record from attributing it to him)
― g@bbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Candicissima (candicissima), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Aaron A., Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago) link
The thing that I don't like the most about NASCAR is that it's so microgoverned. Dale Junior getting points knocked off his standings just because he accidentally said "shit" on network television. What the fuck does that have to do with how well he performs in the "sport"? It'd be like Tim Duncan getting ten points taken off his last game because he criticized NBA officials afterward.
Say what you will about Bud Selig, but at least you don't have some family sitting on top of baseball, making and changing all the rules at a moment's whim.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, golf is certainly far more wasteful.. especially resorts in the desert. I love the game itself, but -- practically speaking -- it's the most resource wasting sport on the planet.. as far as upkeep and water is concerned. (although the terms "waste" and "resource" are very flexible, so any sport could be argued to be the worst, depending on how you stretch the terms.)
Anyway, this is why I prefer mini-golf.
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link
I went to the second Winston Cup race at Texas Motor Speedway, with two or three hour-long delays because of wrecks and terrible track conditions. Then when they were actually running, I feel asleep. It's super-loud, but the way the engines rev in unison around the track is soothing and it was 100+ degrees and after two beers I was out like a light.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
My thoughts/questions were always about the more obvious and icky bodily functions.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dennis, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
I grew up in the south.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
I have no interest in NASCAR though. Watching corporate logos go in a circle for a couple hours is not my idea on entertainment.
― Zebra, Alpha Go! (cprek), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't notice the sponsorship of basketball and baseball so much (though I hate selling the naming rights to city/state-financed stadiums), until the owners are dumb enough to plaster logos on uniforms. I'd probably be more turned off if I saw them live more often.
I don't think the gearhead factor is that big anymore - the 'cars' they race (Monte Carlos, Ford Tauruses or whatever the new equiv. is) aren't very cool. I'd say the chance of a wreck and the general bumpin-and-grindin is the major drive behind watching the sport.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dennis, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link
You could say the same about bullfighting and rodeo.. although the degree of visual "wow"-ness associated with a crash can be seen as disturbingly obfuscating of the tragedy thereof... although this is something people *outside* the sport get more excited about when they see it in the news while those into the sport actually get sad about, I'd gather.
And I stress "I'd gather". Again, I've never even sat through a car race on TV once in my life... so I'll defer to the NASCAR people here instead to explain this.
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link
I can see hardcore fans disliking wrecks (even while unconsciously liking the danger), but the casual fans who make up most of the audience are looking for excitement, which is served by crashes, and something that's often missing from F1.
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Me too and me too.
― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
I do get a kick out of some of the old footage circa Lee Petty. Some drivers would be in convertibles.
― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
is there any cultural phenomenon that doesn't have naysayers like that? cf. the yakuza, black metal.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian Riese-Moraine's exploding hamster zeppelin! (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
That said the best race last weekend was F1, especially the last lap. From a purist's perspective F1 is probably the most interesting class, but to anyone who doesn't follow auto racing it has to be the most boring. It's all strategy and technology, barely any passing. Speed here in the USA has some great announcers, even if they are Coulthard haters.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Does Depends have a NASCAR sponsorship program?
In the meantime, my brain balks at the idea of auto racing as a sport, because it doesn't seem to demand physical strength or endurance. However, I probably here am subscribing to a high-rockist concept of sports.
― j.lu (j.lu), Tuesday, 31 May 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
Ayo!
Dale Jr. on What Really Matters:
"I knew I was gonna get a good deal [from Hendrick Motor Sports]. It wasn't really about trying to maximize that and push and push to get that number up as high as I can get it.
In the middle of the year, is that really gonna matter? You know when you're in the guts of the season and you're racing, what really matters?
What really matters is when you walk up to your car and you go, the black side skirts are ugly."
― felicity, Sunday, 1 June 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.forbesautos.com/advice/toptens/cars-of-nascar-drivers-2008-story.html?partner=ybuzz
― gabbneb, Monday, 2 June 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Cute! Kasey has a Viper and OMG I love Kyle Petty's Charger.
We're going to Sonoma.
― felicity, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Casey Mears owns this and Forbes shows his '61 Impala and a new Tahoe? Hi, advertisers! What a boring list. Ryan Newman's the only one half trying.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 00:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Welcome back to NASCAR!
This post powered by the new Dodge Hemi Tundra. Special financing available.
― felicity, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link
i bid a gimlet farewell to 'digger' and his marketing empire and eagerly anticipate the return of wally's world
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link
I have won $240 on the Kyleeeeeeeeeeeee Dude 茄蕃 this season. I used my winnings to buy a new camera.
― felicity, Tuesday, 3 June 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-harassmentlawsuit&prov=ap&type=lgns
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link
It's bad publicity and it's a shame but Poston's going to do the right thing.
Read any class action complaint and you'll see the same or worse happening at places from IBM to Merril Lynch.
― felicity, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link
JIMMY JOHNSON
this is what i say whenever nascar comes up
whenever i catch the tail end of a race on tv i always pull for him & he does not often disappoint
― deeznuts, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link
It's Jimmie Johnson, friend.
But yeah, he's a great one to root for.
― felicity, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
pwned <3
but yeah whenever i watch a nascar race at the end its always like 'should jimmie go for it or not?' & im always like FUCK YES & he always does then he wins
― deeznuts, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link
He's such an awesome good sport, too.
― felicity, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i have been promised "nascar merchandise"!
Pocono might not be the best racing, but it sure looks purty on the tv
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 01:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Suspiciously smaller-than-a-breadbox NASCAR merchandise, perhaps?
OMG I am so excited about Sonoma. I got comped tickets from my friend at Turner.
― felicity, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I am as yet uncertain of the size or nature of said merch, but may find out this weekend.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
This is a good commercial. Someone said it was DJ not Shadow, the other one.
― felicity, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link
You know, from the 90s but not as good. Oh yeah, Spooky.
i gave my parents a nascar-related item because it also involved something they like. i kept a picture or two tho.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 19 June 2008 19:55 (sixteen years ago) link
AP says Tony to run his own team, possibly picking up Newman
― gabbneb, Thursday, 10 July 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_bowles/07/11/obama/?eref=sircrc
awesome/finally
― gabbneb, Friday, 11 July 2008 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i actually sent them an email recommending Kvapil's car. I'm sure these things are related.
― gabbneb, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispers/2008/7/8/jimmie-johnson-says-nascar-fans-arent-alike-but-will-choose-mccain.html
― gabbneb, Friday, 11 July 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Update_Obama_passes_on_NASCAR_sponsorship_0712.html
― gabbneb, Saturday, 12 July 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Samsung Instinct NASCAR application, as demonstrated at Mashable.
(video commentary by yours truly)
― felicity, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i got this guy for my parents' collection
http://web.mac.com/ben.gardner/iWeb/Site/Animals_files/P1000080.jpg
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 04:37 (sixteen years ago) link
...
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
I was watching the driver view during practice and everything looked familiar and I realized I dropped many quarters into Indy racing at Coney last weekend and I was all I KNOW YOU, MANG
― gabbneb, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
TS: Dover (or New Hampshire) + Mets-Phils vs. Richmond weekend + Mets-Braves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICi3kIzSIZg&feature=related
― gabbneb, Monday, 28 July 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Got any questions for Casey Mears? I'm interviewing him tomorrow.
― felicity, Monday, 25 August 2008 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link
NOPE
― deeznuts, Monday, 25 August 2008 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, who's his candidate?
― gabbneb, Monday, 25 August 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll ask.
― felicity, Monday, 25 August 2008 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I suppose I'd ask him for his view on the cheating scandal with Joe Gibbs Racing. Also what he thought of Junior Johnson's reply at: http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/columns/story?columnist=hinton_ed&id=3548448
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, is he going to race the 24 Hours of Daytona again?
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm totally going to ask him about the cheating. It's so blatant. I want to know if their attitude is like "LOL U BUSTED" or U Jerk.
― felicity, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Hey, good question about the 24 hours of Daytona, too. Thanks!
― felicity, Monday, 25 August 2008 23:33 (sixteen years ago) link
so why is McDowell still in this series?
i may be going to dover next weekend. how do i go about getting one of those scanner thingies? is there a kind to get? and what do i do with it? does it serve the earplug function?
http://thepage.time.com/mccain-pool-report-3/
― gabbneb, Monday, 15 September 2008 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AgFc04FXc_dVtMgcEScu94nov7YF?slug=bm-edwards091108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
On the subject of politics, Edwards had very strong opinions. When the subject turned to the current presidential election, he offered no direct endorsement of one candidate over another.
“People are smart, and they know the difference between what’s best for them and what’s not,” Edwards said. “I think they know who turns things around and who is telling the truth.
― gabbneb, Monday, 15 September 2008 11:25 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't cuz it preempted The Simpsons!!! Why is it NEVER the other way around?????? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....................
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 2 March 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dCpO-e3yyp0/TqlSidQ5WcI/AAAAAAAAAe8/0Cpvfxb3qyU/s400/tony-stewart-GC.jpg
Tony Stewart in high school.
― earlnash, Thursday, 1 March 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link
surely some mistake!
― ^ enlightening post (sarahell), Friday, 31 January 2014 09:58 (ten years ago) link
wtf
― Come and Heave a Ho (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 11:25 (ten years ago) link
The NASCAR driver known as "The Outlaw" testified Tuesday he believes his ex-girlfriend is a trained assassin dispatched on covert missions around the world who once returned to him in a blood-splattered gown."Everybody on the outside can tell me I'm crazy, but I lived on the inside and saw it firsthand," Kurt Busch said when his attorney, Rusty Hardin, questioned why he still believed Patricia Driscoll is a hired killer.
"Everybody on the outside can tell me I'm crazy, but I lived on the inside and saw it firsthand," Kurt Busch said when his attorney, Rusty Hardin, questioned why he still believed Patricia Driscoll is a hired killer.
amazing
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
Lol rain delay
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
i saw that Ryan Newman crash and was worried it was gonna be some Russell Phillips shit but the dude walked out of the hospital today. pre-Earnhardt he'd probably be dead.
― omar little, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/dLzS5qL.jpg
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 June 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link
I don't like how much I like and appreciate NASCAR now that they banned the traitor's flag and Dale Earnhardt Jr. basically said "Black Lives Matter". As someone else stated, "You know you're living in the wrong timeline when the right-wingers get Harry Potter and the left-wingers get NASCAR."
― We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 02:05 (four years ago) link
Not the thread starter one might have expected.
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 07:40 (four years ago) link
IT'S NOT JUST A BIG ONE. IT'S THE HUGE ONE!Nearly the entire field involved in this crash at Talladega! #NASCAR📺 : NBC pic.twitter.com/poJkMCPuIn— NASCAR on NBC (@NASCARonNBC) October 6, 2024
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 7 October 2024 19:59 (two months ago) link