amazing but not necessarily that surprising: FBI has files on ACLU, Greenpeace, other rights groups...

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FBI Says It Has Files on Rights Groups


By MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer
Mon Jul 18,12:07 AM ET


The FBI has thousands of pages of records in its files relating to the monitoring of civil rights, environmental and similar advocacy groups, the Justice Department acknowledges.


The organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union and Greenpeace, are suing for the release of the documents. The organizations contend that the material will show that they have been subjected to scrutiny by FBI task forces set up to combat terrorism.


The FBI has identified 1,173 pages related to the ACLU and 2,383 pages about Greenpeace, but it needs at least until February to process the ACLU files and until June to review the Greenpeace documents, the government said in a filing in U.S. District Court in Washington.


The FBI has not said specifically what those pages contain. The ACLU's executive director, Anthony Romero, said the disclosure indicates that the FBI is monitoring organizations that are engaging in lawful conduct.


"I know for an absolute fact that we have not been involved in anything related to promoting terrorism and yet the government has collected almost 1,200 pages on our activities," Romero said. "Why is the ACLU now the subject of scrutiny from the FBI?"


John Passacantando, Greenpeace's U.S. executive director, said his group is a forceful, but peaceful, critic of the Bush administration's war and environmental policies.


"This administration has a history of using its powers against its peaceful critics. If, in fact, the FBI has been deployed to help in that effort, that would be quite shocking," Passacantando said.


Justice Department and FBI spokesmen declined to comment, citing the ongoing case. The FBI has denied singling out individuals or groups for surveillance or investigation based solely on activities protected by the Constitution's guarantees of free speech.


Officials have said agents adhere strictly to Justice Department guidelines requiring evidence of criminal activity or indications that a person may know something about a crime.


The ACLU has sought FBI files on a range of individuals and groups interviewed, investigated or subjected to searches by the task forces. The requests also are for information on how the task forces are funded to determine if they are rewarded with government money by labeling high numbers of cases as related to terrorism.


The government did release one document it gathered on United for Peace and Justice that Romero said reinforces his concerns. The organization describes itself as a coalition of more than 1,300 anti-war groups.


A memo from Sept. 4, 2003, about Internet sites that were promoting protests at the 2004 Republican National Convention in New York was addressed to counterterrorism units in Boston, Los Angeles and New York.


"Why is this being labeled as counterterrorism when it's nothing more protests at a political convention, a lawful First Amendment activity?" Romero asked.


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On the Net:


FBI: http://www.fbi.gov


American Civil Liberties Union: http://www.aclu.org/spyfiles/


United for Peace and Justice: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 27 June 2001 03:01 (twenty-two years ago) link

per the usual, most people won't care.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 27 June 2001 03:04 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...

wow, that's scary.

crown victoria (dymaxia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link

yup, pretty expected. remember, these fuckheads think that anyone who doesn't agree with their exact Party line is treasonous.

we've come so far since the civil rights movement...

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:20 (eighteen years ago) link

of course, the key bit is not to have anybody breaking Godwin's Law. the key word is STASI, not the other thing...

kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link

on the far left, the presence of a file is a large honour, my father and my mother both have csis files

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

COINTELPRO MACH II

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link


Yeah, my mom says she has a huge file too. It would be interesting to see it.

crown victoria (dymaxia), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't have thought it would be a news item. Why wouldn't they? We've no Freedom of Information Act in these lovely repressed British Isles, but it's assumed by pretty much everyone (correctly as it turns out) that our security services just do things like this as a matter of course.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 09:53 (eighteen years ago) link

This really isn't surprising. Hasn't the FBI always kept files on people/groups that are perceived as anti-establishment?

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For context, I think it's relevant to point out (for posterity) that the date of June 2001 is from a server error that occurred yesterday. This thread originated in 2005, not 2001.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 10:53 (eighteen years ago) link

We've no Freedom of Information Act in these lovely repressed British Isles

Um, that's not quite true now.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Official Secrets Act still holds. And that means we're not allowed to see some things based solely on the criterion that our Government says they're secret - It doesn't matter what they are.

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link

eleven years pass...

Phil A. Buster
‏@onekade
The FBI is investigating a journalist because he made a joke about voter fraud on twitter. A taste of what's coming.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fbi-investigates-journalist-joke-tweet_us_58471b9fe4b0fe5ab6936b54?section=us_politics

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Welp, I guess 'create Twitter account with which I ceaselessly direct tweet the FBI about absurd and easily-disproven federal crimes I'm committing and encourage as many people as possible to do likewise' is going on the new year's resolutions list.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

let's float some of those crime ideas

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 December 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

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