― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:33 (eighteen years ago) link
lyra, i've been outta the news loop.. link to the article on prayer day?
― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:35 (eighteen years ago) link
And for every National Day of Prayer that the president proclaims, there's also a National Plastic Bag Suffocation Awareness Week. Big Whoop.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Bush Pledges to Expedite Aid to Gulf Region; Day of Prayer Is Set
"The government is going to be with you for the long haul," Mr. Bush said in a brief speech at the White House as he and Vice President Dick Cheney tried to counter charges that their administration had reacted slowly and ineffectively to the crisis. The president said that Sept. 16, next Friday, would be designated a national day of prayer and remembrance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/08/national/nationalspecial/08cnd-bush.html
also http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4227974.stm
and more:http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=katrina+day+of+prayer&btnG=Search+News
― lyra (lyra), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I also love the new Republican song: "Let's Not Point Fingers (It's The Mayor's Fault)"
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 8 September 2005 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9255741/
Though it's a bit... unexpected to have this small story at the top of the MSN news bar.
― D.J. Anderson, Friday, 9 September 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
By KEVIN McGILLAssociated Press
Those who had the money to flee Hurricane Ivan ran into hours-long traffic jams. Those too poor to leave the city had to find their own shelter - a policy that was eventually reversed, but only a few hours before the deadly storm struck land.
New Orleans dodged the knockout punch many feared from the hurricane, but the storm exposed what some say are significant flaws in the Big Easy's civil disaster plans.
Much of New Orleans is below sea level, kept dry by a system of pumps and levees. As Ivan charged through the Gulf of Mexico, more than a million people were urged to flee. Forecasters warned that a direct hit on the city could send torrents of Mississippi River backwash over the city's levees, creating a 20-foot-deep cesspool of human and industrial waste.
Residents with cars took to the highways. Others wondered what to do.
"They say evacuate, but they don't say how I'm supposed to do that," Latonya Hill, 57, said at the time. "If I can't walk it or get there on the bus, I don't go. I don't got a car. My daughter don't either."
Advocates for the poor were indignant.
"If the government asks people to evacuate, the government has some responsibility to provide an option for those people who can't evacuate and are at the whim of Mother Nature," said Joe Cook of the New Orleans ACLU.
It's always been a problem, but the situation is worse now that the Red Cross has stopped providing shelters in New Orleans for hurricanes rated above Category 2. Stronger hurricanes are too dangerous, and Ivan was a much more powerful Category 4.
In this case, city officials first said they would provide no shelter, then agreed that the state-owned Louisiana Superdome would open to those with special medical needs. Only Wednesday afternoon, with Ivan just hours away, did the city open the 20-story-high domed stadium to the public.
Mayor Ray Nagin's spokeswoman, Tanzie Jones, insisted that there was no reluctance at City Hall to open the Superdome, but said the evacuation was the top priority.
"Our main focus is to get the people out of the city," she said.
Callers to talk radio complained about the late decision to open up the dome, but the mayor said he would do nothing different.
"We did the compassionate thing by opening the shelter," Nagin said. "We wanted to make sure we didn't have a repeat performance of what happened before. We didn't want to see people cooped up in the Superdome for days."
When another dangerous hurricane, Georges, appeared headed for the city in 1998, the Superdome was opened as a shelter and an estimated 14,000 people poured in. But there were problems, including theft and vandalism.
This time far fewer took refuge from the storm - an estimated 1,100 - at the Superdome and there was far greater security: 300 National Guardsmen.
The main safety measure - getting people out of town - raised its own problems.
More than 1 million people tried to leave the city and surrounding suburbs on Tuesday, creating a traffic jam as bad as or worse than the evacuation that followed Georges. In the afternoon, state police took action, reversing inbound lanes on southeastern Louisiana interstates to provide more escape routes. Bottlenecks persisted, however.
Col. Henry Whitehorn, head of state police, said he believes his agency acted appropriately, but also acknowledged he never expected a seven-hour-long crawl for the 60 miles between New Orleans and Baton Rouge.
It was so bad that some broadcasters were telling people to stay home, that they had missed their window of opportunity to leave. They claimed the interstates had turned into parking lots where trapped people could die in a storm surge.
Gov. Kathleen Blanco and Nagin both acknowledged the need to improve traffic flow and said state police should consider reversing highway lanes earlier. They also promised meetings with governments in neighboring localities and state transportation officials to improve evacuation plans.
But Blanco and other state officials stressed that, while irritating, the clogged escape routes got people out of the most vulnerable areas.
"We were able to get people out," state Commissioner of Administration Jerry Luke LeBlanc said. "It was successful. There was frustration, yes. But we got people out of harm's way."
© 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/091904ccktWWLIvanFlaws.132602486.html
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 9 September 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 September 2005 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm going to Houston on business next week, and I think I got the *last* hotel room in the city. Everything is full up, which I think is a good sign.
― Orbit (Orbit), Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 10 September 2005 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 10 September 2005 08:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 10 September 2005 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link
In the parking lot outside the hangar sits George Lainart, a police officer from Georgia, who has led a flotilla of nine airboats over land to try to pitch in with the rescue. But his crew has been on the bench for two days, waiting for FEMA to assign them a mission. After making serial inquiries, Lainart is climbing out of his skin, and I later find out that his team circumvented FEMA altogether, got down to New Orleans, and stayed busy for five days straight. Though he shredded his hull by running over asphalt, cars, fire hydrants, and other debris, his crew saved nearly 800 people.
"FEMA was holding up everything, they didn't have a clue," complains Lainart. "They were an absolute roadblock, nobody was getting anywhere with those idiots. Everybody just started doing their own missions." While opinions on the ground differ wildly as to who deserves the most generous serving of blame pie among George W. Bush, Louisiana's governor, and New Orleans' mayor, everyone I speak with agrees that FEMA officials should spend their afterlives in the hottest part of Hell without any water breaks.
The longer Brown stays...
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 September 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
"Mike Chertoff made those decisions and I certainly support him," Cheney told reporters at the Austin convention center, which is housing about 1,500 evacuees. Some have called for Brown to be fired, but Cheney deferred to Chertoff.
also:
Cheney said the evacuees he spoke to in Texas on Saturday did not raise concerns about the FEMA shake-up but detailed their stories of escaping the devastation.
"Not one of them mentioned any of it," Cheney said in response to a question. "They're all very thankful where they find themselves right now."
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 10 September 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Saturday, 10 September 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Sunday, 11 September 2005 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Pat Robertson on Sunday said...“By choosing an avowed lesbian for thisnational event, these Hollywood elites have clearly invited God’swrath,” Robertson said on “The 700 Club” on Sunday. “Is it any surprisethat the Almighty chose to strike at Miss Degeneres’ hometown?”
Robertson also noted that the last time Degeneres hosted the Emmys, in2001, the September 11 terrorism attacks took place shortly before theceremony.
Where is Saladin's army when you need them?
http://datelinehollywood.com/archives/2005/09/05/robertson-blames-hurricane-on-choice-of-ellen-deneres-to-host-emmys/
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 11 September 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 11 September 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― badgerminor (badgerminor), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 11 September 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
there are six of us staying in a one bedroom house right now, but we plan to rent a bigger place soon and splitting the rent (possibly more than 6 ways as there are a couple more of our friends considering moving out here). the only problem is that the landlords around here are heartless bastards who will charge 50 dollars per night per person for anyone who spends the night at their properties who aren't signed on to the lease. one even said "we can't have all of new orleans just moving in here. this is a respectable community"
SO... if anyone has any leads on good jobs please drop me an email. i'll be checking my email here at the public library fairly regularly. this is probably a stretch, but if anyone knows a way a brother can get into Foley Arts in this town, let me know. I'm a lot more qualified/interested in starting that line of work than grip/electrician (though please, if you've got any leads there, let me know).
and if i get wheels/employment i'll need to know some cool clubs/bars/shows/whatever to check out so drop me some names plz.
Also, some insider info on Katrina:
My best friend's older brother was working at Charity Hospital until the "national guard" evacuated everyone from that hellhole. I use the quotes because despite what the news claims, he was actually rescued by renegade texas wildlife and fisheries agents who lied their way past FEMA and the national guard in order to help out. until then he had been sleeping on the roof with the rats for 3 hours every night to escape the stuffy cesspool of the hospital interior. The national guard had promised help on tuesday and then on every following day but no help ever came. at one point they told him to have his worse-off patients up on the roof ready to be flown away in helicopters. the helicopters chose instead to rescue comparatively healthy medical staff from the tulane clinic next door. two of his weaker patients died from the stress of being carried up and down the stairs on a stretcher by exhausted hospital workers. He had to treat all of his patients by penlight in oppressive heat, humidity, and stink. he's safe in cincinatti now with some of his family, but he's still fatigued, malnourished, and shell-shocked.
a friend of my dad's stayed uptown during the storm and wasn't rescued until a week after the storm hit. a tree fell on his house and it flooded on monday. during the looting crisis he had to fight for his life on multiple occasions (in hand to hand combat) and during the chaos was separated from his dog Rosco. he was rescued by the coast guard only to find out that his sister and brother, his only family members, had both lost their homes to the hurricane. he might be moving out here with us for a while. we got a message from him this morning that a firefighter from gonzales LA rescued his dog and he's on his way there now for a seriously emotional reunion.
― Fetchboy (Felcher), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link
one even said "we can't have all of new orleans just moving in here. this is a respectable community"
maybe this is worth publicizing?
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 12 September 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link
It's really something. Trying to rush because I'm late for work and passing a Blazer with Louisiana plates, a family inside - the wife in the passenger seat looking at a map - well, it certainly can humble ya.
It's a new running joke around here: Some car poking along in the way on the street, turning suddenly without a blinker, and we get all riled up before we see the La or Miss plates. Then all is forgiven.
The other day, a good Christian co-worker stopped himself from saying "Godddamn" by exclaiming GOD -blessLouisiana!
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Seal Beach is just one town over from my old stomping grounds in Belmont Shore so if you need any ideas give me a shout.
Seal Beach is kinda out of the way, but since you're without wheels at the moment, your best bet to get around would be to take the OCTA #1 bus to the Long Beach VA hospital and switch to the Long Beach Passport A or D bus to downtown Long Beach and then you can get the Blue Line train to downtown LA or Hollywood.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 15 September 2005 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
They still gave me some training on how to register folks, so i might just wander in for a bit over the weekend.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 September 2005 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
The Associated PressIDAHO FALLS, Idaho – An Idaho weatherman says Japan's Yakuza mafia used a Russian-made electromagnetic generator to cause Hurricane Katrina in a bid to avenge itself for the Hiroshima atom bomb attack — and that this technology will soon be wielded again to hit another U.S. city.
Meteorologist Scott Stevens, a nine-year veteran of KPVI-TV in Pocatello, said he was struggling to forecast weather patterns starting in 1998 when he discovered the theory on the Internet. It's now detailed on Stevens' Web site, www.weatherwars.info, the Idaho Falls Post Register reported.
Scientists discount Stevens' claims as ludicrous.
"I have been doing hurricane research for the better part of 20 years now, and there was nothing unusual to me about any of the satellite imagery of Katrina," said Rob Young, a hurricane expert at Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, N.C. "It's laughable to think it could have been manmade."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002508576_webkatrinatheory20.html
― lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
cool!
― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
"We are not saying these MREs are unfit or unsafe. We're saying they don't meet the importation standards, and they are being set aside."
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
that should ease some people's minds, but now that i've actually seen firsthand just how pitiful their individual aid packages are, i'm rethinking all the nice things i've said about the organization.
― the happy smile patrol (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link
We've been thru so many of these things and communications technology has improved so much that we can do this all better.
but it won't. At least they're making some noise in our city up in the Pacific NW that "hey, when the Big One finally hits, we might be completely fucked."
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I bought one of those shake-for-2-minutes flashlights the other day. Bring on the Seattle earthquakes, I'm prepared with my little shake-powered-LED-flashlight!
― lyra (lyra), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link
i live at the top of a hill, but ya never know.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link
in portland?!?!?? you're insane bro!
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link
but yeah, i'm far more likely to die in an earthquake, or by one of our local prominent volcanoes decides to wake up again...
but ya never know.
― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I heard on the news just this morning that approx 75% of the whites on N. O. and 65% of the black had vehicles according to the last cencus. I blamed everyone at the time because I thought no one cared enough to provide transportation for the poor etc. to get out of harms way but now I find that most of them choose to stay. This doesn't take any of the responsibility off the local officials that did not provide any transportation for those who did not have a way out. I can't help but feel some would have left if they could.
People become to laid back about their safety because they have not experienced things like hurricanes etc. Living in Florida all my live I have seen and been through many. I do not and will not stay if anything more than a cat 2 is coming through. I live in Okeechobee, Fl. and we too have a levy that sourrounds Lake Okeechobee and almost everyone knows this levy will not hold should a Cat 3 stall over the lake. Anyone living near the lake who doesnot evacuate puts their lives in danger and in the hands of GOD.
FlMoonshadow
― Florida Native, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Fl. Native
― Florida Native, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I doubt many families evacuated the city using all the vehicles in their household. This is just one reason why you're talking crazy talk.
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link