best/worst: John Huston

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M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The Maltese Falcon, but I bet the Bible movie is bad.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Ahem I meant I haven't seen a bad John Huston film, but I bet the Bible movie is bad.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

huston was like the brando of directing: he'd make one of the greatest movies ever made, follow it with three or four forgettable-to-awful ones, then repeat. my favorite is the maltese falcon, and i haven't seen annie but i'm guessing that's one of his worst.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 September 2005 04:32 (eighteen years ago) link

his moby dick is really good too.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 September 2005 04:32 (eighteen years ago) link

best: fat city, duh

renegade bus (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 September 2005 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link

according to imdb, john huston plays noah, god AND the serpent in the bible movie. i can't imagine that not being awesome.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 September 2005 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Annie.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The worst (lots to choose from): In This Our Life, Across the Pacific, Key Largo, Moulin Rouge, The Bible, Victory, Under the Volcano.

The best: The Maltese Falcon, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Beat the Devil, the Orson Welles monologue in Moby Dick, The Man Who Would Be King, Prizzi's Honor, The Dead.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link

How could Key Largo be on a list of the worst of anything?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 1 September 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Because it's a pale retread of The Maltese Falcon, Lauren Bacall is reduced to looking wan and helpless, and any film that gives Lionel Barrymore a big role plainly has water-on-the-brain.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm likely seeing Moulin Rouge this weekend; thanks for the buzzkill!

Not sure Reflections ina Golden Eye is GOOD, but it's fascinating.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Reflections in a Golden Eye has a fascinating, unheralded, and brave Brando performance.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

his performance in chinatown!

In which he plays Noah Cross, a character who benefits from the manipulation of water. He played Noah in the Bible. My film professor thought this was all very significant.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Because it's a pale retread of The Maltese Falcon, Lauren Bacall is reduced to looking wan and helpless, and any film that gives Lionel Barrymore a big role plainly has water-on-the-brain.

But Edward G. Robinson! And the setting's great. It's a minor Bogart film, OK sure, but it's not bad.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Listing Key Largo as anyones worst movie is crazy talk.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

The one where Mitchum and Deborah Kerr are hiding from the Japanese on an island in WW2 isn't bad.

I saw the Bible on TVas a kid, and he was real silly as Noah. Geo C Scott is a good Abraham tho.

Prizzi's Honor may be his 2nd-best film after Maltese Falcon, Jack hatas!

The Red Badge of Courage I remember being free of phony heroics.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait no one listed Prizzi's Honor as his worst, did they? That's a great movie. So's Wiseblood if I recall. He did tons of good stuff.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

He had a strange midcareer slump, then did some of his best films in his last ten years.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Wise Blood! Forgot to mention it.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I never saw Annie or the Stallone soccer POW movie :p )

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait is the Stallone POW movie, the soccer movie? That's movie's good!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

It's on my Netflix queue to watch again!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Put Asphalt Jungle in your queue, Alex. Trust me.


And I also really like Under The Volcano , but have seen that on video only.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Stallone soccer movie is "Victory."

The Asphalt Jungle is ok but I saw it recently and it really paled in comparison with The Killing.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Ohmyfuckinggod no one (including me) has mentioned The African Queen!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen Asphalt Jungle. I really liked it, but yeah The Killing is probably better.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Alex is a sucker for films with Pele!

The African Queen is one of those official 'classics' that doesn't do much for me. Hepburn's first major irritating perf, and there would be no legend of Bogart if he had more roles like that. I prefer the gravity of Clint Eastwood's film a clef about its preproduction.

I find Sierra Madre slightly overrated too -- hstencil and I were discussing it on the G train last night -- save for Alfonso Bedoya and Walter H.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Sierra Madre is overrated, but it's still worthwhile. Walter Huston's perf is the best reason to see it, def.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

And Humphrey Bogart is truly frightening – probably a better manic performance than a similar one he gave in "In A Lonely Place," because the context is so much stronger. I think it was Pauline Kael who once wrote that the first 15 minutes of "Sierra Madre" – when we follow Bogart as he begs for money, gets a shave, a barfight, etc – are the best thing Huston ever did. She's right.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

any film that gives Lionel Barrymore a big role plainly has water-on-the-brain.

even it's a wonderful life?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 1 September 2005 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Even It's A Wonderful Life.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 1 September 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

John Huston: C/D?

scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 September 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Escape to Victory is a classic, despite being really quite dud, truth told.

Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 1 September 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

It's just called "Victory," at least in the US I think.

Lionel Barrymore's OK pre-decrepitude (eg, Grand Hotel) tho his brother John said he thought of him whenever he played Richard III (for the appropriate ham quotient).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 September 2005 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Centennial upcoming next month; MoMA NYC is doing a film series of the Huston clan:

http://moma.org/exhibitions/film_media/2006/huston_family.html


I've not seen A Walk with Love and Death, which intrigues me for teenage Anjelica alone.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link

On a horse!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

naked?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, Morb, speaking of Huston: I rented White Hunter, Black Heart. Betcha can't wait for my response.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

sounds like I can... "We won the preliminary for the kikes..."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm mystified by Morbs' stumping for White Hunter, Black Heart. Elongating his syllables around orotund pensees about life and literature, Eastwood mimics John Huston without any of the irony which Huston always managed to place between himself and the vulpine he-man mystique he projected.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 31 July 2006 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, Moulin Rouge was pretty sucky. While his best give anyone's best a good run for the money, I'd have to name The Maltese Falcon as my sentimental favorite. He nailed that one absolutely square and flush. It's damn near perfect.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

huston's moby dick was one of the first old movies i really loved; it has a kinda so-so reputation but it looks gorgeous and has an amazing script (by ray bradbury!) and i can't imagine they'll ever do a better version. i also like gregory peck playing captain ahab as a sort of righteous lincoln-esque character; a heroic ahab doing evil things makes for more interesting drama than a crazy ahab doing evil things. the part at the end where the crew sees his body lashed to the whale (sorry, is that a spoiler?) is also quite chilling.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 05:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't find Gregory Peck remotely convincing, but, yeah, it's a fascinating film (which is not to say it's successful). Orson Welles is magnificent, though, isn't he?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

reflections in a golden eye is worth watching, oh that ending makes me laugh, and brando & liz and that ridiculous "houseboy" etc, etc.....

how is the "real" White Hunter/Black Heart - Roots of Heaven??? I like Juliette Greco (so did daryl zanuck).

timmy tannin (pompous), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 05:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I just find WH/BH more entertaining and honest than Unforgiven, Million Dollar Baby ... or The African Queen.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"Honest"! Eastwood never gave a more fradulent performance (hearing him expound on the wonders of Tolstoy was almost as bad as his "I love people; I'd love to meet'em all" soliloquy in The Bridges of Madison County).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:26 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Anyone ever seen Monty Clift as Freud?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Years ago. If he'd been my doctor I'd recommend a second opinion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gonna try to go see The Dead, which I've maybe seen in the theater before. Is Beat the Devil all it's cracked up to be? What's the Iguana like?

I just find WH/BH more entertaining and honest than Unforgiven, Million Dollar Baby ... or The African Queen.

Are you claiming Bogie as black (or is there something I'm forgetting)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 28 August 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

any "Myra Breckinridge" opinions?

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 23 February 2017 13:29 (seven years ago) link

"More champagne?"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2017 13:50 (seven years ago) link

Morbs, based on your posting time, you have a knack for going to the exact screenings I was planning on going to before running just slightly too late to overcome train delays. Second time this has happened in the last couple weeks I think! Gonna hit up BtD today though, am stoked.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 23 February 2017 15:26 (seven years ago) link

catch me if you can, Dr C

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 February 2017 15:51 (seven years ago) link

I went on Tuesday. Third ilxor is the charm.

Disco Blecch and His Exo-Planettes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 February 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Beat the Devil is a hoot - totally pointless plot-wise, just establishing a space where, as HOOS said of The Usual Suspects, we get to watch that awesome cast fuck around for 90 mins so big up that flick. Bunch of character actors playing characters who put on characters, it's fun just watching them be in scenes together. Morley's every line is a delight and Jennifer Jones - who I think I've only ever seen in The Towering Inferno as Fred Astaire's love interest with the cheap death - was hilarious and hypnotic.

Caveat: I could have seeeeriously done without the North African digression and all its "oh but surprise, the stern-faced local bigwig... is actually a fan of Rita Hayworth!!!" latter-day Orientalist yuks. That's the period for you, but it does make me a little less likely to recommend the film to someone.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Friday, 24 February 2017 01:56 (seven years ago) link

I wish you hadn't mentioned that other movie.

Disco Blecch and His Exo-Planettes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 February 2017 02:17 (seven years ago) link

I used to teach The Dead in the early '00s when I asked my intro to lit class to read Dubliners. It's more than an honorable try: the Gretta/Gabriel confrontation is as moving as it needs to be.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Also: Prizzi's Honor hasn't survived its (inexplicable) reputation as an '80s Oscar prestige flick, despite how successfully it mixes tones.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 03:47 (seven years ago) link

Sorry, didn't like it that much at the time either

Disco Blecch and His Exo-Planettes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 February 2017 05:03 (seven years ago) link

love it

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 February 2017 12:24 (seven years ago) link

Alfred, its "prestige" element had mostly to do with Anjelica and Dad working together for the second (and first successful) time, her Ex-Boyfriend's presence (told by the director "Everything you've done til now has been informed by your intelligence -- we can't have any of that"), and maybe a little of the Richard Condon revival (I think Manchurian Candidate had just been brought out of the vaults after a 20-year suppression).

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 February 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link

Oh I'm aware of that. Apparently the old buzzard had to gently explain to Nicholson, "Jack, it's a comedy."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 13:35 (seven years ago) link

What about Bill Hickey?

Nesta Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 February 2017 14:24 (seven years ago) link

"You want a cookie?"

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 February 2017 14:27 (seven years ago) link

the Self-Styled Siren on Devil -- i have to admit i didn't think to look for evidence of Bogart's varying teeth (car accident), but he looks like hell in some scenes more than others.

Jones wrote to Selznick, "Certainly my character has no reality of any kind and whether she is comedy, tragedy, or something 'bourgeois' I haven’t a notion." !!!

http://www.filmcomment.com/blog/beat-the-devil/

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 February 2017 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Two of the many things I liked about Beat The Devil:
The cinematography by Oswald Mosley Morris, with help from cameraman Freddie Francis
Robert Morley's stuff, presumably ad-libbed by him some of the time, such as "Neptune's mixture!"

Nesta Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:21 (seven years ago) link

"Now, breathe deeply. Remember, every breath is a guinea in the bank of health"

Nesta Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link

Also, speaking of Freddie Francis, there was the in-joke of one of the characters being named after associate producer Jack Clayton.

Nesta Leaps In (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link

Yeah Morley's holding-forth was generally one of the highlights, always got a laugh.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 February 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

The Criterion edition of Wise Blood is a terrific clean-up; the film's never looked better. I'm not as high on it as I once was twenty years ago: Huston goes for slapstick cornpone as if, like Jack Nicholson later in Prizzi's Honor, he was unsure about finding a tonal equivalent to the O'Connor novel. Excellent Bill Moyers interview from 1982 on the extras.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:00 (seven years ago) link

? Wtf is moyers' connection to this film?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:46 (seven years ago) link

None. Promo interview for Annie.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:52 (seven years ago) link

I'm crazy about Wise Blood but, like you, have not seen it in about 20 years.

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 04:08 (seven years ago) link

Saw Wise Blood introduced by Richard Hell (?) a few years back - he correctly pointed out how bad/inappropriate some of the music is (slapstick cornpone is about right). But I like the film's tonal inconsistency because it reflects how O'Connor's novel can be read as cosmic tragedy or pitch black comedy.

Fat City just got a nice Region 2 Blu Ray release after being a hard film to legit source in the UK, looking forward to checking it out.

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 09:40 (seven years ago) link

That Criterion WB set also has O'Connor reading "A Good Man Is Hard to Find," no?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 11:19 (seven years ago) link

yes and she's startling

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 12:41 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

My keepers. Freud is stilted as hell, camp in places ( “You’re the only doctor in the world who asks such questions!” Freud: “In the world perhaps.”)

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 August 2021 01:12 (two years ago) link

I'd been meaning to see Fat City for about 30 years and finally did. It's very strong, and I almost immediately wanted to rewatch several scenes.

Susan Tyrell's performance is the type that makes you think, "this has the quality of an Oscar-nominated performance" and then you look it up and find out it was an Oscar-nominated performance.
It's crazy that she was only 26 in this movie - she comes across as a very convincing 40-something barfly.

Josefa, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

I know the 70s were a different time but I was surprised when I learned Fat City did well at the box office.

Chris L, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

It was Richard Dawson (of Family Feud)'s favorite film

Josefa, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link

I don't why the scene where Stacey Keach prepares a supper of boot leather steak with cold peas straight from the tin sticks me so much, but it's a classic of the genre.

calzino, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link

With ketchup! But did he not heat the peas inside the can? I wasn't sure. Even that would be odd to me.

Josefa, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 16:46 (two years ago) link

I think he just poured them straight out cold unless I'm remembering it wrong! It reminds me a bit of my mum telling me when she was living in a scummy bedsit in the early 60's without a cooker and resorted to heating a tin of beans in a constantly boiling electric kettle.

calzino, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

i also enjoyed "fat city." it's got the '70s thing where it has one pop song that it reuses over and over in different versions throughout, which i always appreciate. it's very faithful to the excellent source novel, so if you liked the movie, you might want to read the book too.

rocky had to have been directly influenced by it, right? very similar in being low-key blue-collar character studies disguised as boxing movies

na (NA), Thursday, 5 August 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link

happy birthday, John!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 August 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

The Kris Kristofferson song works perfectly in Fat City. I was noticing how some Mexican-type horns enter the arrangement when Keach goes off picking fruit with the migrant workers and thought, this is a director (or whoever was responsible) who knows how to use music.

Josefa, Thursday, 5 August 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

Thanks for pushing me to read the novel; my local bookstore had a copy.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 August 2021 15:04 (two years ago) link

it's very faithful to the excellent source novel

this was always Huston's signature move

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Thursday, 5 August 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

whoa:

Under the then-extant rules, Stacy Keach should have been awarded Best Actor from the New York Film Critics Circle for his portrayal of Tully because it required only a plurality of the vote. Keach was the top vote-getter for Best Actor. At the time, the NYCC was second in prestige only to the Academy Awards and was a major influence on subsequent Oscar nominations. A vocal faction of the NYFCC, dismayed by the rather low percentage of votes that would have given Keach the award, successfully demanded a rule change so that the winner would have to obtain a majority. In subsequent balloting, Keach failed to win a majority of the vote, and he lost ground to the performance of Marlon Brando in The Godfather. However, Brando could not gain a majority either. As a compromise candidate, Laurence Olivier in Sleuth eventually was awarded Best Actor.

Coincidentally, director John Huston had initially wanted Brando to play the role of Tully. When Brando informed Huston repeatedly that he needed some more time to think about it, Huston finally came to the conclusion that the star wasn't really interested and looked for another actor until he finally cast the then relatively unknown Keach.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 August 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Looking through my books old film reviews it's interesting that neither Pauline Kael, John Simon, nor Stanley Kauffman were much impressed by Stacy Keach's performance. Kael thought Susan Tyrell should have won the Oscar, but her review of the film was mixed - she wondered why she was watching these loser characters. Simon didn't like the film at all and felt that Tyrell's performance was artless and out of control.

Josefa, Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link

Oh, also John Simon's review misspells John Huston's name as Houston throughout.

Josefa, Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

Brando would've been too old for that role. The character in both the book and the film is 29. Brando was 47. Stacy Keach was the same age as the character.

Josefa, Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:24 (two years ago) link

I don't suppose I will be the first one who thinks Richard Basehart's Ishmael in Moby Dick looks so uncannily like Ewen McGregor that a DNA test shouldn't be out of the question.

calzino, Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:35 (two years ago) link

Looking through my books old film reviews it's interesting that neither Pauline Kael, John Simon, nor Stanley Kauffman were much impressed by Stacy Keach's performance. Kael thought Susan Tyrell should have won the Oscar, but her review of the film was mixed - she wondered why she was watching these loser characters. Simon didn't like the film at all and felt that Tyrell's performance was artless and out of control.

― Josefa,

I thought Kael said in a later but contemporaneous review that a performance comes around once in a while so bad it's a wonder it doesn't win an Oscar.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:40 (two years ago) link

^You're right! That was the passage I was referring to, but rereading it now it's clear Kael was being ironic, comparing Tyrrell's performance to previous bad performances that did win Oscars. Kael's phrase, "a performance of that caliber" threw me.

Josefa, Thursday, 5 August 2021 22:53 (two years ago) link

and she's wrong! I had this conversation pre-COVID a couple years ago over drinks about the best drunk performances in film. I mentioned Susan Tyrell, particularly her second bar scene where Keach picks her up. She creates an alternate reality like I've seen other deep alcoholics do.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 August 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link

Still haven't seen Fat City, but anyone looking for a true monster of a Susan Tyrell performance is encouraged to check out the 80s queer horror should-be classic Butcher Baker Nightmare Maker.

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Thursday, 5 August 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

Kael thought Susan Tyrell should have won the Oscar, but her review of the film was mixed - she wondered why she was watching these loser characters.

lol I know no one is consistent about stuff like this but "don't want to watch losers" would be a tough standard for a cinemagoer in the 1970's

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 August 2021 09:14 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Man Fat City! Help me make it through the night is used so well. Love how it ends with the second verse, “yesterday is dead and gone.” Nice gut punch

Heez, Thursday, 10 February 2022 05:02 (two years ago) link


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