Drugs, Murder and Mexico

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This law then effectively gives everyone in Mexico the same rights as middle-class white Americans. Bravo.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Saturday, 29 April 2006 15:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

Some of the amounts are eye-popping: Mexicans would be allowed to possess more than two pounds of peyote, the button-size hallucinogenic cactus used in some native Indian religious ceremonies.

Well, I know where I'm going for vacation.

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 29 April 2006 15:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Amsterdam?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

Where's the legalize murder part? So i can go down there and do all the coke and peyote I want but what the fuck am i supposed to do after that? NOT go on a killing spree???

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well, I know where I'm going for vacation.

You and every frat boy in America.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

just don't kill any female students from the US. That's what seems to lead to troubles.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

pwned!

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Okay never mind then.

Dan (¯\(º_o)/¯) Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

The bill says criminal charges will no longer be brought for possession of up to 25 milligrams of heroin, 5 grams of marijuana (about one-fifth of an ounce, or about four joints), or 0.5 grams of cocaine -- the equivalent of about 4 "lines," or half the standard street-sale quantity (though half-size packages are becoming more common).

lf (lfam), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

WTF

lf (lfam), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

meanwhile - http://www.colorado.edu/police/420_Photo_Album/index.htm

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

who the hell buys 4 lines anyway???????

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

ALSO: yes, who do I get to legally kill, yes?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

re: that colordado link.

It's amazing that no matter how low my opinion of this world is, there's always something to push it lower.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

wait, the sign says "video and photographic surveillance equipment is in use" => I show up and get high anyhow => who's the asshole?

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

You are the dummy, they are the assholes.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Is not murder legal now anyways?

Favo, Sunday, 30 April 2006 13:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

i dont' get that colorado link at all. is that a joke? what did they close the field for? what the fuck is Farrand Field?

I fucking hate colorado

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh I looked it up. fuck that

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

i just wanted to point out that tom's characterization of lax drug laws in the us isn't entirely right.

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

Whatever vahid, answer the question:

Where's the legalize murder part?

Thread title looks like its ripped straight off Fox News.

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

actually, it's ripped straight from the liner notes to "dopethrone"

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

newsflash! teeny hates dan!

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've come to terms with that.

Dan (ROFFLE) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

1/5th of an ounce of weed would last me about three days.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

i bet the south padre island chamber of commerce is stressing.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

FUCKING STONERS

lf (lfam), Thursday, 4 May 2006 04:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

ain't gonna happen

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100827/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

i've thought about starting a thread about the sickening drug violence in mexico and elsewhere and how the government passes the blame to drug users and drug users pass the blame to the government while drug cartels revel in the market created by the outlawing of drugs and the money they make from the users and nothing ever changes and people like those migrant workers (and presumably this prosecutor) die in increasingly horrible ways, but based on a couple of "i don't care" responses i've had when i asked this serious question before maybe it would be a waste of time? anyway i think our attitude towards those who suffer south of the border because of this is fairly abhorrent on all fronts and i've learned to not even debate this with close friends because they feel i'm being a dick for even bringing the topic up because they enjoy drugs occasionally.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think this is kind of a good reason not to use drugs, at least ones that you don't know where they came from, regardless of what you think about legalization. Blood diamonds, blood drugs, etc.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

i honestly think people who use hard drugs (which are trafficked by the kind of folks who go around murdering people just for the hell of it) don't give a single shit or if they do they blame the market created by the government. of course if they really cared they might not use at all, but there is always going to be resistance to government laws regarding this issue, which is understandable because the government is so wrong on this issue.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

I read yesterday where 28,000 people have been killed in the mexican drug war since 2006 and was just kinda stunned.

Kerm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Habitual drug users deflecting responsibility shocker

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

But yeah obviously the govt does bear a huge amount of responsibility for this.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think about this a lot but a) i don't really know what to think, entirely and b) really don't know what to say

goole, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

i have read something recently about mexico flirting with the idea of legalizing marijuana unilaterally. it's mexicans who are being murdered, after all.

goole, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

i know a couple of folks in l.a. who have grimly mentioned shit that has gone down with relatives in mexico, almost matter-of-factly.

The body count in Mexico stood at 5,400 slayings in 2008, more than double the 2,477 reported in 2007, officials said, with over 1400 in Ciudad Juárez alone.[27][28] The population of Ciudad Juárez had to change their daily routine and many try to stay home in the evening hours. Public life is almost paralyzed out of fear of being kidnapped or hit by a stray bullet. On 20 February 2009, the U.S. State Department announced in an updated travel alert that "Mexican authorities report that more than 1,800 people have been killed in the city since January 2008." [29] On 12 March 2009, police found "at least seven" partially buried bodies in the outskirts of the city, close to the US-Mexican border. Five severed heads were discovered in ice boxes, along with notes to rivals in the drug-wars. Beheadings, attacks on the police and shootings are common in some regions.[30] In September 2009, 18 patients at a drug rehabilitation clinic called El Aliviane were massacred in a turf battle.[31] Patients were lined up in the corridor and gunned down in the early evening. On September 3, 2009 the Associated Press reported that the day before gunmen broke down the door of the El Aliviane drug rehabilitation center and lined their victims up to a wall shooting 17 dead. The authorities had no immediate suspects or information on the victims. Plagued by corruption and the assassination of many of its officers, the government is struggling to maintain Ciudad Juárez's police force. Other police have quit the force out of fear of being targeted.[32] In late 2008 one murder victim was found near a school hanging from a fence with a pig's mask on his face and another one was found beheaded hanging from a bridge in one of the busier streets of the city.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

smoke local pot. and leave everything else alone. unless the canadians start making cocaine or something. the 72 bodies in a room thing...i mean, what can you even say? its just so awful in every possible way. i blame this country so much already for so many things...its a long list. i don't even know what to say.

scott seward, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

i sort of attempted to tackle this in a trolling manner on the cocaine C or D thread, but i think it was generally ignored in favor of people relating war stories, i.e. "that time i did coke was a real good time, classic."

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

to repeat:

In September 2009, 18 patients at a drug rehabilitation clinic called El Aliviane were massacred in a turf battle.[31] Patients were lined up in the corridor and gunned down in the early evening.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

message being, what exactly? don't try to quit or we will kill you?

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Are there any good explanations for why the violence has so sharply increased? Is there something driving drug profits up at the moment?

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

i got in a big argt once with a friend about drug legalization, my points being basically that making something illegal doesn't erase demand, so the "business model" of suppliers necessarily involves violence; and that our strategy for the past 50-odd years has to be considered a failure, so why not try something else that seems to have worked ok in other places.

the counter-argument was basically "you watch the wire"

goole, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

GBX just asked me to post this link. I actually had it open already in another tab. It's insane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_homicides_in_Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

In September 2009, 18 patients at a drug rehabilitation clinic called El Aliviane were massacred in a turf battle.

What does this even mean? OOH it makes it sound like the turf battle just happened to take place on the property of the clinic, OTOH "massacre" suggests deliberately killing the patients but doesn't sound like a "turf battle".

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah that particular aspect of this is nuts, E.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

i have several particularly sharp and otherwise decent friends who indulge in the odd bit of cocaine use, and what can you really say? saying stuff like this comes off as preachy and playing right into the hands of those who want to keep drugs illegal, one could argue. and yet...no.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

The situation in Juarez nuts and ridiculous that more attention hasn't been paid to it. I think Jennifer Lopez made a movie about it a couple years ago called "Boderlands" iirc but I don't ever remember seeing it in theaters and suspect it went straight to video.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

and being interested in women's fashion

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

still

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was thinking maybe that's why he didn't want to go to jail?

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

possibly not him?!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 24 June 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Apparently a "car salesman"/body double(?) -- http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/mexico/120623/felix-beltran-el-chapo-el-gordo-guzman-arrest-sinaloa-drug-lord

The US Drug Enforcement Administration was credited with providing the intelligence that led to Thursday's raid, and had applauded the arrest, the Washington Post reported.

RCMP, Sunday, 24 June 2012 04:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

New William Finnegan report:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/07/02/120702fa_fact_finnegan

Odd Spice (Eazy), Monday, 25 June 2012 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

i have a fondness for targeting institutions for their role in the global drug trade

A US Senate investigation has disclosed how lax controls at Europe's largest bank allowed dirty cash to be laundered for almost a decade.

The report into HSBC, released ahead of a Senate hearing on Tuesday, says Mexican drug money passed through the bank over seven years.

Suspicious funds from Syria, the Cayman Islands, Iran and Saudi Arabia also passed through the bank.

HSBC said it expected to be held accountable for what went wrong.

The damning report comes at a difficult time for the British banking sector, with standards and practices are under the spotlight.

Critics say the current furore over the manipulation of the Libor inter-bank interest rate is the latest example of a banking system in need of fundamental reform.

The report also concludes that the US bank regulator, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, failed to properly monitor HSBC.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18866018

nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Monday, 16 July 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Not really drugs, but guns -- is anyone following the reception of this Fast and Furious report from the inspector general?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-ig-critical-of-atf-in-gun-operation/2012/09/19/379daf18-0273-11e2-8102-ebee9c66e190_story.html

The inspector general’s report recommended that the Justice Department review the actions of 14 officials and consider whether disciplinary action is warranted. Among them are former acting deputy attorney general Gary Grindler, Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, former acting ATF director Kenneth Melson, former ATF special agent in charge William Newell and Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein.

The inquiry “did not find persuasive evidence that any supervisor in Phoenix, at either the U.S. Attorney’s Office or ATF, raised serious questions or concerns about the risk to public safety posed by the continuing firearms purchases or by the delay in arresting individuals who were engaging in the trafficking,” Michael Horowitz, the Justice Department’s inspector general, wrote in the 471-page report. “This failure reflected a significant lack of oversight and urgency by both ATF and the U.S. Attorney’s Office.”

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's a link to a pdf of the report if reading 500 pages of government document is your bag.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Shit... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/26/maria-santos-gorrostieta-dead-mexico-mayor-tortured-killed_n_2193219.html?utm_hp_ref=world

Earlier this month, Maria Santos Gorrostieta, a former small-town mayor in the drug-trafficking western state of Michoacan in Mexico, was reportedly kidnapped in broad daylight in front of her young daughter.

A few days later, her body was found by the side of a road in the southern part of the state. It is believed that the woman was tortured before she was killed, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Gorrostieta had previously survived two assassination attempts, the LA times adds. The first, in 2009, had claimed the life of her husband, Jose Sanchez, another former mayor of the town; while the second, three months later, had left her badly wounded.

The newspaper continues:

Gorrostieta had been mayor of Tiquicheo, a remote town in the so-called hotlands of Michoacan, farmland firmly under the thumb of drug-trafficking cartels. She had denounced traffickers; she also had to confront accusations that her late husband was involved in criminal business.

Gorrostieta, whose mayoral term ended in 2011, reportedly knew that her life was constantly in danger. Yet, even after her husband was murdered and the second attempt on her life left her riddled with bullets and "in constant pain," Gorrostieta refused to give in, the Christian Post notes.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

ugh

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is there an expert on this situation on ilx that could give me some kind hope? or is it worsening?

Van Horn Street, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think La Lechera is probably the most-versed on ilx in this stuff?

these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have nothing hopeful to add here at the moment, I'm afraid. It's my belief that by the time the news gets to US major news outlets, it's already somewhat out of date. So to prognosticate about whether things are getting "better" or "worse" is kinda futile.

However, I do think that changing attitudes about the various facets of the "war on drugs" in the US (Jarecki doc + Colorado vote signal something, even if no one is sure exactly what) could be a sign that some kind of change is on the way. On the other hand, Obama hasn't had a lot to say about Latin America lately.

In sum, who knows. I sure don't.

passion it person (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

MONTERREY, Mexico -- Searchers pulled 10 bodies from a well in northern Mexico on Monday, near the site where 20 members of a Colombian-style music group and its crew disappeared late last week, according to a state forensic official.

It was hard to determine how many more bodies were submersed in the water, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment publicly on the case.

Nuevo Leon state Gov. Rodrigo Medina earlier told a local television station, "We have evidence that indicates that (the bodies) may very well be the members of this band," though he said experts were still working to identify the corpses.

Sixteen members of the band Kombo Kolombia and four crew members were reported missing early Friday after playing for a private show at a bar in the town of Hidalgo north of Monterrey.

The forensic official said authorities had been searching for two days when they came upon the well Sunday along a dirt road in the town of Mina, about 140 miles (225 kilometers) from Laredo, Texas.

People living near the bar in Hidalgo reported hearing gunshots at about 4 a.m. Friday, followed by the sound of vehicles speeding away, said a separate source with the Nuevo Leon State Investigative Agency. He also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to be quoted by the news media.

The officials added that gunfire is common in the area and said investigators found spent bullets nearby.

Relatives filed a missing persons report on Friday after losing cell phone contact with the musicians. When they went to the bar to investigate, they found the band members' vehicles still parked outside.

Kombo Kolombia has played a Colombian style of music known as vallenato, which is popular in Nuevo Leon state. Most of the group's musicians were from the area, though state officials said one of those missing is a Colombian citizen with Mexican residency.

It was Mexico's largest single kidnapping since 20 tourists from the western state of Michoacan were abducted in Acapulco in 2010. Most of their bodies were found a month later in a mass grave. Authorities said the tourists were mistaken for cartel members.

Members of other musical groups have been murdered in Mexico in recent years, usually groups that perform "narcocorridos" that celebrate the exploits of drug traffickers. But Kombo Kolombia did not play that type of music, and its lyrics did not deal with violence or drug trafficking.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/01/27/3203748/colombian-style-band-missing-in.html#storylink=cpy

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

EEK! Not sure if I want to work around south Texas anymore. When I was in Port Isabel in 2010 people around there kept talking about the problems across the border in a way that made it sound activity was never far from the town. I am from a border town but I guess security or activity just didn't make it across often.

*tera, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 06:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Since Chicago has made international news lately for pointing a finger at Guzman (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21462254), it seems worth noting what else is going on in Chicago

"... it's essentially like Chapo Guzman has 100,000 Amway salesmen working for him." (says Jack Riley, special agent in charge of the DEA's Chicago division.)
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2013/02/22/drug-arrests-drop-in-chicago-but-still-snare-thousands-in-black-neighborhoods

Last week officials sent the latest message that their chief targets are major drug operators—and not the guys on the corner—when the Chicago Crime Commission and DEA named Mexican drug cartel leader Joaquín Guzmán Loera "public enemy number one." Nicknamed El Chapo, or Shorty, Guzman leads the Sinaloa cartel, which the DEA believes is responsible for 80 percent of the heroin and cocaine in Chicago.

As intended, the declaration made international news. But the situation it highlights is a little more complex than the headlines suggested.

Guzman and Sinaloa don't actually peddle drugs on Chicago's streets. Officials say low-level cartel affiliates, or groups who buy from them, smuggle their products to the city or nearby suburbs. From there the goods are sold to street gangs.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

there have been rumors going around in the news that el chapo was killed in a gun battle

http://www.forbes.com/sites/doliaestevez/2013/02/22/was-mexican-billionaire-drug-kingpin-el-chapo-guzman-killed/

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Another one of those times that makes me realize that by the time news ("news") reaches people like us, it is OLD NEWS. I wonder what's really going on.

I was watching the Pablo Escobar novela for a while, but then I fell behind and lost track of what was happening. It's fascinating how much networks have changed, and how the landscape has changed when the product is the same, more or less.

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Friday, 22 February 2013 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/26/world/americas/mexico-disappeared/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

More than 26,000 people have gone missing in Mexico over the past six years as violence surged and the country's government cracked down on drug cartels.

Mexico's Interior Ministry announced the staggering statistic on Tuesday but noted that authorities don't have data about how many of the disappearances are connected with organized crime.

The 26,121 disappearances occurred during former President Felipe Calderon's six-year administration, which ended on December 1 when Enrique Pena Nieto assumed the presidency.

Pena Nieto's government has formed a special working group to focus on finding the missing, said Lia Limon, deputy secretary of legal matters and human rights for Mexico's Interior Ministry.

Locating people "is a priority for this government," Limon told reporters.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 27 February 2013 00:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/01/world/americas/mexico-young-assassin/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

(CNN) -- A 13-year-old boy who had confessed to being an assassin for a Mexican drug cartel was among six people found murdered execution-style, authorities in the central Mexican state of Zacatecas have confirmed.

The boy's body was found Thursday alongside a highway in the municipality of Morelos.

The bodies of five other people, four females and one male, were also found at the same location. Officials say they had all been shot execution-style with high-caliber weapons.

"They all appeared to be young people, but we're still in the process of positively identifying the bodies," Nahle Garcia said.

Speaking about the most recent incident, Nahle Garcia said he's not surprised. "It's really unfortunate, but we're seeing more and more young men who drop out of school and end up selling drugs on the streets," he said. "They all end up the same. They either end up in jail or the cemetery."

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 2 March 2013 01:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

:(
i'm always wondering if someday one of these kids is going to filter through my class
at least he would still be alive!

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Saturday, 2 March 2013 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

speaking of kids,

The proportion of the Mexican population that is literate is going up, but in absolute numbers, there are more illiterate people in Mexico now than there were 12 years ago. Even if baseline literacy, the ability to read a street sign or news bulletin, is rising, the practice of reading an actual book is not. Once a reasonably well-educated country, Mexico took the penultimate spot, out of 108 countries, in a Unesco assessment of reading habits a few years ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/06/opinion/the-country-that-stopped-reading.html?nl=opinion&emc=edit_ty_20130306&_r=0

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

:-(

h8 this thread. My family are all middle-class & living safely in querétaro, & all my experience of mexico is overwhelmingly positive (although of course I was aware of all this stuff the whole time I was there). Such a great country being betrayed, I could cry

dat neggy nilmar (wins), Wednesday, 6 March 2013 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is there any further news on El Chapo and whether or not he was killed?

Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd be really shocked if he actually was

frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, seems to be bogus from digging around a bit.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
3 months pass...
1 month passes...

of interest:

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/independent/narcocultura/

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 19:03 (7 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-17/heroin-pushed-on-chicago-by-cartel-fueling-gang-murders.html

a decent summary of the connection between guzman and chicago/its many murders

‘Logistical Genius’
Law enforcement officials say Guzman chose Chicago for the same reasons Sears, Roebuck & Co. once centered catalog sales in the city: It’s a transportation hub where highways and rail lines converge and then fan across the Midwest. The disappearance of factory jobs and the struggle of public schools on the city’s South and West sides also give Guzman tens of thousands of willing salesmen who are jobless and poorly educated.
In 2009, a Guzman distributor ran 11 warehouses and stash houses in Chicago and southwestern suburbs. One was in Bedford Park, steps from a facility used by FedEx Corp., operator of the world’s largest cargo airline.
“He’s a logistical genius and a hands-on guy,” Riley says, adding that Guzman is also a billionaire. “If he had turned his talents to legitimate business, he’d probably be in the same situation moneywise.”
The Chicago police strategy of saturating high-crime areas with patrols appears to be cutting the homicide rate. Murders through Sept. 8 fell 21 percent -- to 297 from 377 -- from the 2012 period. Yet the authorities have made scant progress in cracking Sinaloa’s supply chain.

special beet service (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 September 2013 20:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Different version of above story:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2013/Sinaloa-Cartel/

Lover (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 14:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

Hey, has anyone else seen The Counselor? Because it feels like it really is about trying to comprehend cartel violence, instead of just using it for a pulpy story.

Meanwhile:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/28/mexican-militias-vigilantes-drug-cartels

Bailey (Collins) Lover (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 04:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

can't see that ending well

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://www.vocativ.com/11-2013/avocado/

This one's especially sad/fascinating.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 November 2013 16:52 (4 months ago) Permalink

it seems like they're bleeding everyone dry. even the waiters and bartenders in Cancun (who may not even make $15k a year) have to pay a fee or get burned alive.

frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:01 (4 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

great photo essay about grupos autodefensas that are disarming cartels (and others) in various mexican states
http://www.businessinsider.com/mexican-vigilantes-battle-drug-cartel-photos-2014-1

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Monday, 13 January 2014 20:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

el chapo -- arrested! http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-mexico-drug-arrest-20140222,0,4503693.story#axzz2u4Q6KWth

MEXICO CITY -- Joaquin Guzman, "El Chapo," the most wanted drug lord in Mexico and a multibillionaire fugitive, has been captured, a senior U.S. official said Saturday.
Few details were available. But Guzman has long been considered the top prize and most elusive figure in an extensive, ongoing drug war that has left tens of thousands of Mexicans dead.
Guzman led the Sinaloa cartel, the most powerful, richest and oldest of the drug-trafficking networks in Mexico. The group is responsible for the shipment of tons of cocaine and marijuana to the U.S.
The senior official said Guzman was captured early Saturday in the Sinaloa city of Mazatlan and was being transported to Mexico City. No shots were fired in the capture, the source said, which was based on information from an informant.
In recent days, the Mexican marines have been raiding numerous properties in Sinaloa belonging to close associates of Guzman.
Guzman was arrested in Guatemala in 1993 but escaped from prison in 2001 and has been on the lam ever since.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 22 February 2014 18:50 (1 month ago) Permalink

wow

espring (amateurist), Saturday, 22 February 2014 20:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

Story on the Sinaloa cartel's start in Chicago in the 90s:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25849267-418/drug-cartels-the-doctor-helped-run-chicago-operation.html

That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 1 March 2014 17:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

this has been all over the news lately. seems like people are finally starting to sort of understand/care about how the international drug trade has operated for the last bazumpteen years?

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 1 March 2014 17:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

For a good primer, try this radio series. The text that accompanies the segment pretty much says it all
http://revealradio.org/tracing-chicagos-heroin-supply-chain/

Tracing Chicago’s heroin supply chain

Ever wondered how heavy narcotics such as heroin make it to America’s streets? Where it comes from, how it’s distributed and who it hurts?

That was the focus of a yearlong investigation by WBEZ and the Chicago Reader, which tracked the heroin supply chain from Mexico to Chicago and across the Midwest.

In our feature segment on “Reveal,” reporters Chip Mitchell and Natalie Moore explain the economics behind the heroin resurgence and paint a detailed picture of how the drugs end up in American communities.

According to the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Sinaloa cartel is responsible for 70 to 80 percent of the narcotics moving through Chicago. On Feb. 22, its leader, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, was arrested in Mexico.

Explore the full series from WBEZ and the Chicago Reader here.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 1 March 2014 21:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

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