Drugs, Murder and Mexico

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This law then effectively gives everyone in Mexico the same rights as middle-class white Americans. Bravo.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Saturday, 29 April 2006 15:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Some of the amounts are eye-popping: Mexicans would be allowed to possess more than two pounds of peyote, the button-size hallucinogenic cactus used in some native Indian religious ceremonies.

Well, I know where I'm going for vacation.

milo z (mlp), Saturday, 29 April 2006 15:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

Amsterdam?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

Where's the legalize murder part? So i can go down there and do all the coke and peyote I want but what the fuck am i supposed to do after that? NOT go on a killing spree???

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well, I know where I'm going for vacation.

You and every frat boy in America.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

just don't kill any female students from the US. That's what seems to lead to troubles.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Saturday, 29 April 2006 16:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

pwned!

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

Okay never mind then.

Dan (¯\(º_o)/¯) Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

The bill says criminal charges will no longer be brought for possession of up to 25 milligrams of heroin, 5 grams of marijuana (about one-fifth of an ounce, or about four joints), or 0.5 grams of cocaine -- the equivalent of about 4 "lines," or half the standard street-sale quantity (though half-size packages are becoming more common).

lf (lfam), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

WTF

lf (lfam), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

meanwhile - http://www.colorado.edu/police/420_Photo_Album/index.htm

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

who the hell buys 4 lines anyway???????

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

ALSO: yes, who do I get to legally kill, yes?

Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

re: that colordado link.

It's amazing that no matter how low my opinion of this world is, there's always something to push it lower.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

wait, the sign says "video and photographic surveillance equipment is in use" => I show up and get high anyhow => who's the asshole?

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

You are the dummy, they are the assholes.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

Is not murder legal now anyways?

Favo, Sunday, 30 April 2006 13:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

i dont' get that colorado link at all. is that a joke? what did they close the field for? what the fuck is Farrand Field?

I fucking hate colorado

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

oh I looked it up. fuck that

kyle (akmonday), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

i just wanted to point out that tom's characterization of lax drug laws in the us isn't entirely right.

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Whatever vahid, answer the question:

Where's the legalize murder part?

Thread title looks like its ripped straight off Fox News.

Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Sunday, 30 April 2006 14:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

actually, it's ripped straight from the liner notes to "dopethrone"

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

newsflash! teeny hates dan!

kingfish doesn't live here anymore (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 19:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

I've come to terms with that.

Dan (ROFFLE) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

1/5th of an ounce of weed would last me about three days.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

i bet the south padre island chamber of commerce is stressing.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

FUCKING STONERS

lf (lfam), Thursday, 4 May 2006 04:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

ain't gonna happen

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100827/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

i've thought about starting a thread about the sickening drug violence in mexico and elsewhere and how the government passes the blame to drug users and drug users pass the blame to the government while drug cartels revel in the market created by the outlawing of drugs and the money they make from the users and nothing ever changes and people like those migrant workers (and presumably this prosecutor) die in increasingly horrible ways, but based on a couple of "i don't care" responses i've had when i asked this serious question before maybe it would be a waste of time? anyway i think our attitude towards those who suffer south of the border because of this is fairly abhorrent on all fronts and i've learned to not even debate this with close friends because they feel i'm being a dick for even bringing the topic up because they enjoy drugs occasionally.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 19:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think this is kind of a good reason not to use drugs, at least ones that you don't know where they came from, regardless of what you think about legalization. Blood diamonds, blood drugs, etc.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

i honestly think people who use hard drugs (which are trafficked by the kind of folks who go around murdering people just for the hell of it) don't give a single shit or if they do they blame the market created by the government. of course if they really cared they might not use at all, but there is always going to be resistance to government laws regarding this issue, which is understandable because the government is so wrong on this issue.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

I read yesterday where 28,000 people have been killed in the mexican drug war since 2006 and was just kinda stunned.

Kerm, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

Habitual drug users deflecting responsibility shocker

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

But yeah obviously the govt does bear a huge amount of responsibility for this.

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

i think about this a lot but a) i don't really know what to think, entirely and b) really don't know what to say

goole, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

i have read something recently about mexico flirting with the idea of legalizing marijuana unilaterally. it's mexicans who are being murdered, after all.

goole, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

i know a couple of folks in l.a. who have grimly mentioned shit that has gone down with relatives in mexico, almost matter-of-factly.

The body count in Mexico stood at 5,400 slayings in 2008, more than double the 2,477 reported in 2007, officials said, with over 1400 in Ciudad Juárez alone.[27][28] The population of Ciudad Juárez had to change their daily routine and many try to stay home in the evening hours. Public life is almost paralyzed out of fear of being kidnapped or hit by a stray bullet. On 20 February 2009, the U.S. State Department announced in an updated travel alert that "Mexican authorities report that more than 1,800 people have been killed in the city since January 2008." [29] On 12 March 2009, police found "at least seven" partially buried bodies in the outskirts of the city, close to the US-Mexican border. Five severed heads were discovered in ice boxes, along with notes to rivals in the drug-wars. Beheadings, attacks on the police and shootings are common in some regions.[30] In September 2009, 18 patients at a drug rehabilitation clinic called El Aliviane were massacred in a turf battle.[31] Patients were lined up in the corridor and gunned down in the early evening. On September 3, 2009 the Associated Press reported that the day before gunmen broke down the door of the El Aliviane drug rehabilitation center and lined their victims up to a wall shooting 17 dead. The authorities had no immediate suspects or information on the victims. Plagued by corruption and the assassination of many of its officers, the government is struggling to maintain Ciudad Juárez's police force. Other police have quit the force out of fear of being targeted.[32] In late 2008 one murder victim was found near a school hanging from a fence with a pig's mask on his face and another one was found beheaded hanging from a bridge in one of the busier streets of the city.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

smoke local pot. and leave everything else alone. unless the canadians start making cocaine or something. the 72 bodies in a room thing...i mean, what can you even say? its just so awful in every possible way. i blame this country so much already for so many things...its a long list. i don't even know what to say.

scott seward, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

i sort of attempted to tackle this in a trolling manner on the cocaine C or D thread, but i think it was generally ignored in favor of people relating war stories, i.e. "that time i did coke was a real good time, classic."

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

to repeat:

In September 2009, 18 patients at a drug rehabilitation clinic called El Aliviane were massacred in a turf battle.[31] Patients were lined up in the corridor and gunned down in the early evening.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

message being, what exactly? don't try to quit or we will kill you?

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Are there any good explanations for why the violence has so sharply increased? Is there something driving drug profits up at the moment?

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

i got in a big argt once with a friend about drug legalization, my points being basically that making something illegal doesn't erase demand, so the "business model" of suppliers necessarily involves violence; and that our strategy for the past 50-odd years has to be considered a failure, so why not try something else that seems to have worked ok in other places.

the counter-argument was basically "you watch the wire"

goole, Friday, 27 August 2010 20:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

GBX just asked me to post this link. I actually had it open already in another tab. It's insane:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_homicides_in_Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

In September 2009, 18 patients at a drug rehabilitation clinic called El Aliviane were massacred in a turf battle.

What does this even mean? OOH it makes it sound like the turf battle just happened to take place on the property of the clinic, OTOH "massacre" suggests deliberately killing the patients but doesn't sound like a "turf battle".

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah that particular aspect of this is nuts, E.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

i have several particularly sharp and otherwise decent friends who indulge in the odd bit of cocaine use, and what can you really say? saying stuff like this comes off as preachy and playing right into the hands of those who want to keep drugs illegal, one could argue. and yet...no.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

The situation in Juarez nuts and ridiculous that more attention hasn't been paid to it. I think Jennifer Lopez made a movie about it a couple years ago called "Boderlands" iirc but I don't ever remember seeing it in theaters and suspect it went straight to video.

o sh!t a ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ (ENBB), Friday, 27 August 2010 20:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'd be really shocked if he actually was

frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2013 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, seems to be bogus from digging around a bit.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 March 2013 17:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
3 months pass...
1 month passes...
3 weeks pass...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-17/heroin-pushed-on-chicago-by-cartel-fueling-gang-murders.html

a decent summary of the connection between guzman and chicago/its many murders

‘Logistical Genius’
Law enforcement officials say Guzman chose Chicago for the same reasons Sears, Roebuck & Co. once centered catalog sales in the city: It’s a transportation hub where highways and rail lines converge and then fan across the Midwest. The disappearance of factory jobs and the struggle of public schools on the city’s South and West sides also give Guzman tens of thousands of willing salesmen who are jobless and poorly educated.
In 2009, a Guzman distributor ran 11 warehouses and stash houses in Chicago and southwestern suburbs. One was in Bedford Park, steps from a facility used by FedEx Corp., operator of the world’s largest cargo airline.
“He’s a logistical genius and a hands-on guy,” Riley says, adding that Guzman is also a billionaire. “If he had turned his talents to legitimate business, he’d probably be in the same situation moneywise.”
The Chicago police strategy of saturating high-crime areas with patrols appears to be cutting the homicide rate. Murders through Sept. 8 fell 21 percent -- to 297 from 377 -- from the 2012 period. Yet the authorities have made scant progress in cracking Sinaloa’s supply chain.

special beet service (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 September 2013 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Different version of above story:

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/October-2013/Sinaloa-Cartel/

Lover (Eazy), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey, has anyone else seen The Counselor? Because it feels like it really is about trying to comprehend cartel violence, instead of just using it for a pulpy story.

Meanwhile:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/28/mexican-militias-vigilantes-drug-cartels

Bailey (Collins) Lover (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't see that ending well

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://www.vocativ.com/11-2013/avocado/

This one's especially sad/fascinating.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 November 2013 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

it seems like they're bleeding everyone dry. even the waiters and bartenders in Cancun (who may not even make $15k a year) have to pay a fee or get burned alive.

frogbs, Monday, 25 November 2013 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

great photo essay about grupos autodefensas that are disarming cartels (and others) in various mexican states
http://www.businessinsider.com/mexican-vigilantes-battle-drug-cartel-photos-2014-1

mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Monday, 13 January 2014 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

el chapo -- arrested! http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-mexico-drug-arrest-20140222,0,4503693.story#axzz2u4Q6KWth

MEXICO CITY -- Joaquin Guzman, "El Chapo," the most wanted drug lord in Mexico and a multibillionaire fugitive, has been captured, a senior U.S. official said Saturday.
Few details were available. But Guzman has long been considered the top prize and most elusive figure in an extensive, ongoing drug war that has left tens of thousands of Mexicans dead.
Guzman led the Sinaloa cartel, the most powerful, richest and oldest of the drug-trafficking networks in Mexico. The group is responsible for the shipment of tons of cocaine and marijuana to the U.S.
The senior official said Guzman was captured early Saturday in the Sinaloa city of Mazatlan and was being transported to Mexico City. No shots were fired in the capture, the source said, which was based on information from an informant.
In recent days, the Mexican marines have been raiding numerous properties in Sinaloa belonging to close associates of Guzman.
Guzman was arrested in Guatemala in 1993 but escaped from prison in 2001 and has been on the lam ever since.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 22 February 2014 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow

espring (amateurist), Saturday, 22 February 2014 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Story on the Sinaloa cartel's start in Chicago in the 90s:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/25849267-418/drug-cartels-the-doctor-helped-run-chicago-operation.html

That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 1 March 2014 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

this has been all over the news lately. seems like people are finally starting to sort of understand/care about how the international drug trade has operated for the last bazumpteen years?

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 1 March 2014 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

For a good primer, try this radio series. The text that accompanies the segment pretty much says it all
http://revealradio.org/tracing-chicagos-heroin-supply-chain/

Tracing Chicago’s heroin supply chain

Ever wondered how heavy narcotics such as heroin make it to America’s streets? Where it comes from, how it’s distributed and who it hurts?

That was the focus of a yearlong investigation by WBEZ and the Chicago Reader, which tracked the heroin supply chain from Mexico to Chicago and across the Midwest.

In our feature segment on “Reveal,” reporters Chip Mitchell and Natalie Moore explain the economics behind the heroin resurgence and paint a detailed picture of how the drugs end up in American communities.

According to the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Sinaloa cartel is responsible for 70 to 80 percent of the narcotics moving through Chicago. On Feb. 22, its leader, Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, was arrested in Mexico.

Explore the full series from WBEZ and the Chicago Reader here.

we slowly invented brains (La Lechera), Saturday, 1 March 2014 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...
5 months pass...

I don't know what to say about this other than it's awful and upsetting

https://news.vice.com/article/how-a-mexican-cartel-demolished-a-town-incinerated-hundreds-of-victims-and-got-away-with-it?utm_source=vicenewsfb

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 19 September 2014 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/10/missing-mexico-students-mass-graves

Mass graves of protesting students, 26 police officers now in custody on suspicion of murder.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Friday, 10 October 2014 10:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i heard about that on the radio on my way to class, where i handed back a beautifully written student paper about her family ranch in guerrero.
horrible

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Friday, 10 October 2014 13:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

The mayor of Iguala has been charged with six murders connected to the student protests.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/14/mexican-mayor-jose-luis-abarca-charged-murder-students

He can probably expect another forty three to be added to that at some point. The theory is that he feared students would try to disrupt an event promoting his wife's political career so he colluded with the police and one of the cartels to have them kidnapped and killed. She has strong ties to the Beltran Levya group and appears to have been running her own gang in the city.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Sunday, 16 November 2014 11:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://thenewinquiry.com/essays/a-country-disappeared/

At least 60,000 people have died since Calderón had taken office in 2006, and around 22,000 are presumed missing. The government stopped releasing figures in 2011 and put a 30-year lock on them, meaning that we’d never really be sure what the toll was.

never say goodbye before leaving chat room (Crabbits), Sunday, 23 November 2014 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i watched the 48 hrs on this dude, p interesting

http://www.mexicogulfreporter.com/2014/11/bruce-beresford-redmans-prison-diary.html?spref=tw

conditions cant be that bad, hes reading david foster wallace

johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 November 2014 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

id say his case should be the next serial but seems like mexican authorities destroyed most evidence altogether

johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 November 2014 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

el chapo -- arrested! http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-mexico-drug-arrest-20140222,0,4503693.story#axzz2u4Q6KWth

MEXICO CITY -- Joaquin Guzman, "El Chapo," the most wanted drug lord in Mexico and a multibillionaire fugitive, has been captured, a senior U.S. official said Saturday.
Few details were available. But Guzman has long been considered the top prize and most elusive figure in an extensive, ongoing drug war that has left tens of thousands of Mexicans dead.
Guzman led the Sinaloa cartel, the most powerful, richest and oldest of the drug-trafficking networks in Mexico. The group is responsible for the shipment of tons of cocaine and marijuana to the U.S.
The senior official said Guzman was captured early Saturday in the Sinaloa city of Mazatlan and was being transported to Mexico City. No shots were fired in the capture, the source said, which was based on information from an informant.
In recent days, the Mexican marines have been raiding numerous properties in Sinaloa belonging to close associates of Guzman.
Guzman was arrested in Guatemala in 1993 but escaped from prison in 2001 and has been on the lam ever since

Escaped again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-33497301

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Sunday, 12 July 2015 08:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reading Don Winslow's novel The Cartel right now - he's the author of Savages (along with many other books) but this one is much broader in scope and much less pulpy, and is dedicated to dozens of journalists who've been murdered covering the drug war. I guess I'd compare it to James Ellroy's The Big Nowhere in the way it blends fiction and real events, changes names but leaves it pretty obvious who they're based on, etc. A very interesting book.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 12 July 2015 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

read Murder City and then El Sicario last week, kind of in a spin about them now, to put together some reflection on what Bowden means to say that this is "the future". I think he means something about :

the corruption of legal authority by money

the erosion of "natural" limits on violence
by drugs

the desire to be gods

but it's neither one of these nor the other but rather all together.

& the erosion of limits on violence is key ; because you see men who are not psychopaths in any usual sense become professional killers, for whom it seems that the first kill is the crucial one, because to do so breaks a taboo that then permits the killer great power thereafter, power that is otherwise thought beyond reach. and it makes you like a god. I've been reading books on the Holocaust and anti-Semitism prior to this & there too you see torrents of violence following the first kills by "ordinary men".

I can't get my head around this yet.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 21 September 2015 14:21 (10 months ago) Permalink

I also read murder city and what struck me most was the hopelessness for some people in certain areas who could be killed by the cartels, the police, or the army, and that all three parties have elements that are either in cahoots with one another or at war with one another. And if you need help, you don't know if the police or army sent to help will protect you or hand you over to people who will kill you. also spooked by those Juarez party houses where they'd just torture and kill people and bury them in the backyards. And they're just houses in a regular subdivision.

Just the idea that the violence is coming from all elements of power directed at everyone almost arbitrarily, like the story he tells about the massacre at the rehab clinic.

nomar, Monday, 21 September 2015 14:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

has anyone seen "cartel land"

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

it looks really interesting but i'm a little suspicious of bigelow's involvement (in that it might spend a little too much time on the macho vigilantes bringing evil to justice and not, like, on the completely horrifying effects the war has had on the general populace)

might be concern-trolling myself, tho

jason waterfalls (gbx), Saturday, 24 October 2015 21:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Chapo vs. ISIS, coming soon from Electronic Arts:

http://nypost.com/2015/12/10/el-chapo-tells-isis-his-men-will-destroy-them/

my harp and me (Eazy), Thursday, 10 December 2015 20:46 (7 months ago) Permalink

probably the closest we'll ever get to a real life Alien vs Predator tbh

nomar, Friday, 11 December 2015 16:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

I think the proper term is "undocumented immigrant."

pplains, Saturday, 12 December 2015 06:16 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Also, the U.S. consulate in Tijuana was set on fire:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/jan/04/fire-consulate-tijuana-deliberately-set/

(please no long guns of any kind) (Eazy), Tuesday, 5 January 2016 03:13 (6 months ago) Permalink


the raid which recaptured El Chapo

Pancho and Left Eye (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

This stupid fucking world we live in. Jesus Christ.

how's life, Thursday, 4 February 2016 12:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

HE GONE (again)

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 8 July 2016 19:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

or maybe not? no reportage on it beyond the daily mail and a shitload of tweets, could be bullshit

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 8 July 2016 19:50 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

I presume you refer to Joaquin Guzman, aka "El Chapo." Enough money buys one a lot of things.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 8 July 2016 19:52 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

i do indeed refer to joaquin guzman loera. not seeing any actual news outlets report that he's escaped tho

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 8 July 2016 19:58 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

it wouldnt surprise me in the fuckin slightest, seeing as he a. continues to get government help regardless of who's in los pinos and b. is on the verge of being extradited to the U.S.

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 8 July 2016 19:59 (3 weeks ago) Permalink


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