stupid tax question (UK)

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ok i have just started doing my (retired, widowed, very disabled) father's taxes for him

does anyone else on ilx have to do this?

He does not seem to have a UTR (Unique Tax Reference) number assigned -- is this possible or am I being dim? Is it possible mum and dad didn't fill in tax forms? Mum took care of all this kind of stuff, so I have no idea -- I don't recall it ever happening though. I guess I just thought retired people didn't need to -- but it turns out pensions are taxable and dad's is after all now no longer spread between two people :(

I spoke to the helpline but the fact I am his son not him is making them a bit weird -- I can hack it by actively pretending to be him but it seems ridiculous I should be having to do this.

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(sorry, this is the world's most boring question but i am a bit stuck -- and plus bit panicked that he will have to pay loads of back taxes)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:23 (seventeen years ago) link

(ok panic over i spoke to someone helpful at last and found out what i need to do -- naturally it involves STAMPS and POSTBOXES and old-skool letter-writin not stupid interweb shortcuts)

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

in my experience generic helplines are much less good at helping than yr specific tax office.

benrique (Enrique), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

oddly enough this was the other way round! but i evidently didn't say the magic words to the specific tax office (= "power of attorney")

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

glad you've found a solution, mark. if you meet any more brick walls, i'd suggest speaking to your local citizens advice bureau: this sort of thing should be right up their street.

xpost: the one time i had tax hassle (more than a decade ago, just after i graduated - part-time employer's fuck-up, it turned out, but deeply pissy for a skint 21-year-old) i went along to my local tax office in edinburgh and they rocked - astonishingly helpful about everything.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought this was going to be a dated National Lottery thread.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 18:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that would be stupid-tax question, AS U WELL KNO :)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link

(also, N: i was sorry you weren't in the pub this evening for liam's leaving do. wd have been good to see you.)

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Q. My employee has lost (not received) the P45 can I issue a duplicate?
A. You must not issue a duplicate P45 under any circumstances.

Why the fuck not? I've either lost mine or they never sent me one or it got lost in the post and I'm stuck on some stupid tax code so I'm out £1000+.

Just spent ages on hold to HMRC only to fail the security questions because I got a digit wrong on my previous address postcode from 7 years ago and (this is the weird bit) because I don't know who I currently work for (I tried the parent company, the actual company and the intermediate parent company and they were all wrong - the parent company is what appears on my bank statement and was what I said first). No idea how I'm supposed to get this fixed.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 31 July 2014 12:54 (nine years ago) link

you should probably write a letter to them if you can find an appropriate address. keep copies of everything, ask for a timely reply. i notice they've recently shut down the face to face access in our town, i'm assuming this is a national policy to avoid dealing with the results of whatever cuts in service they're undergoing. if you're not happy with your written response or you don't get one, your MP's surgery is probably your next move.

dunno what their online communications are like. alternatively just keep on holding on the phone system depending on yr patience.

why you gotta be Joe Root? (Daphnis Celesta), Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:00 (nine years ago) link

I might be OK as my previous employers luckily don't know the rules and sent me a scan of my P45 anyway. Fingers crossed.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 31 July 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

hullo UK ilx, i am currently invoicing for a small number of US dollars for a freelance writing job from the UK

i was told i need to fill in a W-9 but this cant be right as i am not a US citizen -- the likely equivalent for non-US citizens seems to be a W-8BEN

naturally the guidance for filling in this (quite short!) form is nightmarishly long and baffling -- does anyone (a) have practical experience of this process or (b) have an up-to-date link which will talk me through it sensibly

QUESTION IN THE MEANTIME: am i correct in believing that line 6 in the W-8BEN (which requests "foreign tax identifying number"), i just put my UK Tax reference number (as supplied by HMRC)?

mark s, Wednesday, 8 May 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link


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