― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link
It is a great film. The live action version will be nothing without UNICRON.
― chap (chap), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― carson dial (carson dial), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link
probably saving him for the threquel
― vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link
(xpost)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Hot Rod was cute.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link
We played that in an indie disco once, people went apeshit.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link
(It's actually indie club anyway).
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― a magical moment with unicorns dancing around you (nickalicious), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer needs to be less crappy (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer needs to be less crappy (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― latebloomer needs to be less crappy (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― a magical moment with unicorns dancing around you (nickalicious), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
I love how much of an ineffectual douche Ultramagnus was in this movie.
― a magical moment with unicorns dancing around you (nickalicious), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
remember the TV show post-film? with the weird "ghost of optimus prime" episode(s)? and that lame-ass galvatron?
― ‘•’u (gear), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Wasn't Weird Al one of the Trashicons or Junkicons or whatever they were called? PLEASE TO REPRISE ROLE!!!!
― UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― feed latebloomer to the Sharkicons (latebloomer), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― chap (chap), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:34 (seventeen years ago) link
So apparently an early draft just killed everybody.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transformers:_The_Movie#Character_deathshttp://screencrush.com/transformers-animated-retrospective/http://misc.thefullwiki.org/The_Secret_of_Cybertron
Some artifact a friend of mine dug up and emailed around has Flint Dille's recollection as follows:
A week later we had a draft called ‘The Secret of Cybertron.’ When we were done, we thought we had something truly great. It was an intense experience. We knew most of the characters in the beginning of the movie, but didn’t know the stars (Hot Rod, Galvatron, Kup, or Unicorn at all). And, behind the idea of making a movie was the business reality of introducing a whole new year’s product line while ‘discontinuing’ several of the stars from the first two seasons. After all, the thinking was, how many Optimus, Megatrons, Starscreams and Bumblebees can one kid buy?When Jay and I got done, we thought we had the best script ever written by anybody for any reason.The overall premise of The Secret of Cybertron as I recall was that Unicorn was coming to destroy Cybertron and he was sort-of acting in league with the Decepticons (or they were acting in his interests). The Autobots were determined to stop this, but they had no idea how. Finally, they realized that the Autobot Matrix had a secret power: It could transform Cybertron. The problem was that it had to be inserted at the very center of Cybertron and the Decepticons had holed up in there and set numerous traps to stop the Autobots from succeeding. At one point, every autobot we’ve ever known streams into Cybertron in something ike the Transformers equivalent of the Charge of the Light brigade to install the key. (Or at least, that’s how I remember the story and remember, memory is a very tricky thing. In any case, in one charge we wiped out 90% of the 1985 Transformers product line.)I think one of my models was Sam Peckinpah’s The Wild Bunch which was probably the most violent movie I saw in my entire childhood. Not exactly children’s fare and imagine the trauma that would have been caused if kids had seen their entire product line slaughtered.
When Jay and I got done, we thought we had the best script ever written by anybody for any reason.
The overall premise of The Secret of Cybertron as I recall was that Unicorn was coming to destroy Cybertron and he was sort-of acting in league with the Decepticons (or they were acting in his interests). The Autobots were determined to stop this, but they had no idea how. Finally, they realized that the Autobot Matrix had a secret power: It could transform Cybertron. The problem was that it had to be inserted at the very center of Cybertron and the Decepticons had holed up in there and set numerous traps to stop the Autobots from succeeding. At one point, every autobot we’ve ever known streams into Cybertron in something ike the Transformers equivalent of the Charge of the Light brigade to install the key. (Or at least, that’s how I remember the story and remember, memory is a very tricky thing. In any case, in one charge we wiped out 90% of the 1985 Transformers product line.)
I think one of my models was Sam Peckinpah’s The Wild Bunch which was probably the most violent movie I saw in my entire childhood. Not exactly children’s fare and imagine the trauma that would have been caused if kids had seen their entire product line slaughtered.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link
Transformers #50 the comic had Starscream absorb this vast matrix called the Underbase and he used the power to kill 80 percent of the existing Autobots and Decepticons to make room for new toys.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
Dille once bailed Chris Latta out of jail. When questioned, Latta claimed to have been arrested for jaywalking. This apparently happened more than once and (Dille claims) was a main factor in phasing Starscream out of the series.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link
His voice was pure rasp towards the end; it was great.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link
can't believe the woeful attempts upthread to transliterate Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong.
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link
esperanto is harder than it looks.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
weep grandma weep ninny bum
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFuQYh3gXfA
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link
I just thought of all the fun 8-10yo me would have had re-enacting this calamitous charge through the gauntlet of Cybertron's lower levels. Although to be pedantic, the actual charge of the Light Brigade resulted in 40% casualties, not the 90% that Hasbro was apparently looking for.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link
I like to point out that this movie is Orson Welles' last film.
It also has the word 'shit' in it.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
for some reason the most memorable line for me has always been "spare me this mockery of justice"
― ælərdaɪs (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
I liked Unicron's dry, droll response to Megatron's "Nobody summons Megatron!": "Then it pleases me to be the first."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
the only profanity i remembered initially was this one:
Ultra Magnus: [straining] Open, damn it, open! Prime, you said the Matrix would light our darkest hour.
― nomar, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
ultra magnus, the JJ Watt of transformers
the bit that stuck with me me was the injured Decepticons wailing "brothers! don't!" as they're thrown out of the Astrotrain
― soref, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
btw I'm no animation expert but this blew me away at the time and I still think it holds up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzNsOGt3bHk
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
when the third season of Transformers started I used to wrack my seventh grade brain wondering whether Galvatron had Megatron's memories and how much he was aware of his former self.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:30 (seven years ago) link
xxp
sourced from the same scrapyard
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 22:31 (seven years ago) link
If this goes back up on the big screen near me again I will watch the shit out of it
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 02:27 (seven years ago) link
Judd Nelson cuter as Hot Rod than as Johnny Dangerous or whatever he was in The Breakfast Club.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 02:39 (seven years ago) link
wondering whether Galvatron had Megatron's memories and how much he was aware of his former self.
From the UK comics: yes, but it's complicated (at least in the TF:UK timeline)
― carson dial, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 03:17 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I remember seeing the British comic here (and I just spent 20 minutes reading the Wiki).
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 10:35 (seven years ago) link