vaginas are not clown cars

i feel ok passing judgment on her in general! i think she and jim-bob are a force for evil in the world tbqh

You know there are some people who cannot breastfeed, despite desperately wishing to. A close friend of mine is one of these people. Repeated bouts of mastitis meant it was out of the question and the infection/antibiotics meant she couldnt even express to bottle.

She was distraught at this, and anyone suggesting she's a bad mother for doing so would quite rightly be punched in the balls, it makes her FURIOUS when "well meaning" people go on about how impt it is.

Not breastfeeding is probably one of the least questionable things the Duggars do.

yeah definitely

You know there are some people who cannot breastfeed, despite desperately wishing to. A close friend of mine is one of these people. Repeated bouts of mastitis meant it was out of the question and the infection/antibiotics meant she couldnt even express to bottle.

She was distraught at this, and anyone suggesting she's a bad mother for doing so would quite rightly be punched in the balls, it makes her FURIOUS when "well meaning" people go on about how impt it is.

― millivanillimillenary (Trayce), Sunday, December 13, 2009 5:26 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a bummer, and those ppl should def be punched in the balls. however, i'm still with derelict: breastfeeding is strongly recommended when it is not contraindicated (tautology lol). otoh, recommendations are only recommendations, and no one should feel like a bad mother if they'e using a bottle, imo.

i wouldn't wanna do it. sounds inconvenient 2 the extreme but that's what kids are i guess amirite

So, odds are what, she's had at least two gay kids by now?

Actually, if I'm remembering the research right, aren't the odds increasing dramatically with every male child?

GBX on the money re breastfeeding. I firmly believe it's the best infant food etc. but the way women who choose not to breastfeed (for whatever reason) are treated is ridiculous.

The new baby was born at 25 weeks at 1 lb 6 oz. :( There's going to be more to worry about than just breastfeeding vs. formula.

oh god

because i wonder if most women's bodies would just stop accepting any more pregnancies at a certain point.

I'd think evolution would suggest the answer is "no."

right, i have heard of evolution

but 19 kids. in 22 years or something like that.

...seems superhuman to me. she might be the lance armstrong of childbearing.

Does she have a lot of competition in this arena?

shub-niggurath

googled for record most children born to one woman and the answer is 69. with lots of multiple births.

oh damn that sounds so horrible O_O 69 kids!!!!

someone should have said 69 to her before she started

ha it was in 18th century russia. i suspect given the choice she would not have had *quite* that many

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feodor_Vassilyev
it's true if wikipedia says so right

I wonder if once you're on your 20 something kid, labor just becomes a little inconvenience and nbd. The kids probably just sorta slip right out by that point.

Seriously though after so many kids I wonder what the state of her uterus/cervix is like and whether that might have contributed to such an early arrival this time.

the mind reels

here's an article! http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1604457

but this one had nothing to do with her uterus, she had a c-section because of pre-eclampsia after gall bladder surgery

i guess being pregnant is bad for your gall bladder

Ahhh, I hadn't read anything about that other than on this thread so I didn't know why she delivered so soon.

yeah i can't turn myself away sometimes :/

HUGE MULTIPAROUS is kind of a great term.

Feodor Vassilyev (Russian: Фёдор Васильев) (1707–1782) was a peasant from Shuya, Russia. Though not noteworthy himself, his first wife (whose name is unknown) set the record for most children birthed by a single woman. She gave birth to total of 69 children; however, few other details are known of her life, such as her date of birth or death. She gave birth to 16 pairs of twins, 7 sets of triplets and 4 sets of quadruplets between 1725 and 1765, in a total of 27 births. 67 of the 69 children born survived infancy.

ah my second wife ol whats-her-face had like 70 kids its true

69? Why can't I stop giggling at that nr. Oh right yeah.

clownar vehicularity of the vagina may be hereditary:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/43422853/ns/today-parenting/

#20 is expected in April 2012 !

NSFW: http://ngiley.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/sex-with-car.jpg

clown cars are not vaginas

God, there's nothing more revoltingly precious than naming your kids with the same letter.

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Go and sit on the stairs!

Oh god a friend of mine posted a mini-rant on Facebook about how selfish this family is and how awful it is when the world is overpopulated as it is. Wow, I could never have anticipated the virtiol she got for that, like I've never seen so many torqued off women angrily firing off missives in ALL CAPS about "how dare you dictate how many children a family has" blah blah.

Well, label any set of people for being 'selfish', particularly on Facebook, and that's what will happen.

It was more just the quantity and the tone of the responses that surprised me.

There are reasons against having a lot of kids, but ultimately it is up to the couple to decide the amount of kids they have (or not have). It is their choice. I would not ever want to be in her place. I love kids, but I would never have 20 kids. There's a limit (in my opinion): you can only give so much attention. I remember my gran once saying that her mother had way too many and that it must have been hell raising'em all. (About 12 in total.) My cousin said she felt lost out since she has about 5 siblings (?).

One thing my wife and I have in common is if you go back a few generations, there's one family that had a large number of children. Making the 'family tree' chart unmanageably wide.

I think Queen Victoria had a few kids yeah?

Anyway, back to the clown cars... or is it, um,

Well I'm certainly not advocating some government mandate on number of children allowed per family, but I'm more bothered by the idea behind these super Christian "breeders" who are driven by the need to populate the earth with more "good Christians". That doesn't seem like a valid reason to continue having kids.

Thing is, if you have too large a family, there's nobody in town you are allowed to shag marry.

I still think Michelle probably has a pregnancy fetish.

I despise these people

Oh god a friend of mine posted a mini-rant on Facebook about how selfish this family is and how awful it is when the world is overpopulated as it is. Wow, I could never have anticipated the virtiol she got for that, like I've never seen so many torqued off women angrily firing off missives in ALL CAPS about "how dare you dictate how many children a family has" blah blah.

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Your friend is right. These people are disgusting and irresponsible and in this day in age there really is no good justification for having an excessively large family but I'm not surprised that she got shit for saying that. I've gotten shit for voicing similar myself from people who get either really defensive or assume that automatically means I'm in favor of laws restricting the number of kids someone can have which, of course, I'm not.

It's kind of understandable to be defensive if people are telling parents of large families they, morally, shouldn't have had one or more of the children they obviously love. It's such an emotive argument, and one expressed so badly online in a lot of cases, i can see why people might snap back even when it's a legitimate point sensitively made.

Well, yeah.

I am not in favor of laws restricting how many children a woman can have which is precisely why I feel very free to voice my opinion that ppl who have large broods make me wonder about their psychological state and make me question how much real thought they've given to the actual lives of their kids.

My ex-wife's mother was one of 17 kids; very Catholic peasant stock. It's weird how many can die and there's still a huge family.