The Michael Mann poll

Did they find the torrent of the director's cut or something?

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Raymond that Oppenheimer trailer is the best one yet

Apparently the 1955 LeMans disaster seen in this movie is extremely accurate to the actual event, in terms of grisliness at least. I think he talks a bit about that in the interview Raymond linked upthread.

Love Mann, dgaf about cars, let alone Ferraris. Be funny, though, if this movie had no dialogue, just three hours of revving.

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Josh, that did occur to me when watching. Wouldn’t that be something?

Or if it's just there as this perpetual white noise backdrop, with everyone trying to yell over it?

"Pass the coffee!!!!"

"What?!?!"

"I said, pass the coffee!!!!"

"This marriage is not working!!!!!"

"What?!"

"I said, this marriage is not working!!!!!"

"I can't understand a thing you are saying!!!!!! We can't even communicate anymore!!!!!

"What!?"

Hahaha

“When you’re overseeing those speed tests, don’t you use ear protection?”

“WHAT”

"I had coffee with Lamborghini HALF AN HOUR AGO!"

"WHAT?"

WHAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThlhSnRk21E

Is Driver going to dust off his House of Gucci accent for this?

Reviews are encouraging:

https://variety.com/2023/film/reviews/ferrari-review-adam-driver-penelope-cruz-michael-mann-venice-film-festival-1235708271/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/ferrari-review-adam-driver-penelope-cruz-michael-mann-1235578881/
https://www.indiewire.com/criticism/movies/ferrari-review-michael-mann-adam-driver-penelope-cruz-1234901107/

"Vroooooooooooom"- a car

Public Enemies popped up on Netflix so I tried re-watching it tonight and...nope. Filming a movie set in the 1930s on shaky, hand-held digital cameras, with anachronistic soundtrack music, was a bad idea in the early 2000s and it remains a bad idea now. Just piss-poor execution of a barely interesting idea (did the world need another movie about John Dillinger, especially one starring Johnny Depp?). Without having seen The Keep, I'm willing to call this Mann's worst movie.

Warning everyone now - I grew up in a family that competed in amateur sports car rallys so I know the story and can, with certainty, affirm that this is 100% my jam.

Watching “Manhunter” tonight, finally.

rescreened that recently, it's a truly distilled version of the best aspects of Silence of the Lambs (though not quite as good in some ways.) It's genuinely creepy especially during the first half -- there's something about the policework in this film as they're trying to narrow things down which really worked for me a lot better this time, and something about the almost-corporate style of the feds as they work the case, fruitless meetings in office buildings, jetting all over the southeast, making tactical errors in public while the killer is operating in the shadows and they have zero leads, it's all really compelling stuff.

I love Manhunter. Red Dragon is actually not bad and closer to the book but Ralph Fiennes is completely wrong for the Tooth Fairy and I didn't buy Norton as Graham whereas Petersen looks like a shattered human being throughout.

Also Noonan as Tooth Fairy rules, even if his signature scene is a meme now

I saw both on dates with the same girl in my 20s (both were her idea!)

Noonan is chilling.

DO U SEE

Whereas Fiennes was a sexy, chiseled, fresh out of LA Fitness Tooth Fairy.

I actually thought (incorrectly) that he couldn't act after I saw him in Red Dragon.

Manhunter is just shot so well. Those scenes of Graham isolated in his hotel looking at evidence, with a look like "this might kill me this time"

My vote would have been the MV TV series

Once “Ferrari” has been out for a few months, can we re-poll?

Just watched the Ferrari trailer. Driver is kind of odd casting considering he's a full 20 years younger than Enzo Ferrari was when the movie takes place and needed to have his hair dyed gray for the role. (Or maybe it's a wig.) On the other hand, his last name is Driver.

Great actor but clearly a case of needing a big name attached.

the Frank Grillo Lamborghini film didn't exactly make waves even though "grill" was right there in his name.

Frank Grillo should get the McCauley role in Heat 2.

Can't wait for Bricklin featuring Tommy Lee Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grWQ6CZqtOE

Adam Driver reacts to someone asking about & criticizing the crash scenes in ‘FERRARI’ as “pretty harsh, drastic and cheesy.”

“Fuck you, I don’t know?” pic.twitter.com/MtmehVa6D3

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) November 12, 2023

that's right

Just got the shipment confirmation email for my Blackhat Blu-Ray.

hmm! mine hasn’t shipped but it’s estimating Monday delivery

I got the Neon box set last night with this film among them and the memory of Driver's accent in House of Gucci burned me and I can't.

Wait, what? The Ferrari movie is in the boxed set?

lol Josh, I almost posted the same thing until Zing warned me

Rewatched Thief last night. Haven't seen it since sometime in the last century and goddamn, WHAT A MOVIE. Things I never noticed before: Second City founder Del Close as one of the mechanics at the car lot. Willie Dixon as the fisherman out by the lake. Frank trying to light a cigarette before the conversation with Jessie at the diner before giving up and agressively/nervously playing with it.

Ms. T's comment: "did he just hire real criminals as the supporting cast? I feel like I'm watching the real thing." Yes, indeed.

Blackhat Blu-Ray arrived in today's mail; I just re-watched the director's cut and yeah, it's top five Mann for me.

1) Thief
2) Miami Vice director's cut
3) Heat
4) Blackhat director's cut
5) Manhunter

6) The Insider
7) Collateral
999) Public Enemies

I still haven't seen The Last of the Mohicans, Ali or The Keep.

Still don't get what y'all seeing in Blackhat

It’s a Borges story

Wait, what? The Ferrari movie is in the boxed set?

― Josh in Chicago,

yes

Yeah, I hated Blackhat when I saw it in the theaters. Tried the director's cut some months back, but I didn't make it very far, because 95% of the movie is the same and I just wasn't feeling it.

Actually, wait, I'm still confused. There's a Neon boxed set that contains Mann's "Ferrari," even though it hasn't been released yet?

I think it's a For Your Consideration box sent out to movie critics.

Oh, well, that makes sense. I thought it was some official Neon boxed set, not a box of year-end screeners.

people like the Miami Vice director’s cut better? I thought it didn’t really add much. Blackhat one is better for the plot, although I see why they reconfigured it for pacing reasons. the order of the hacks/crimes in the theatrical release is muddled

I prefer the theatrical "Miami Vice," which has one of the best cold opens of all time.

I have some fan-assembled mock DC of "The Keep" I'm been meaning to watch.

The DCs of "Ali" and "Mohicans" are both good, but I honestly can't remember the theatrical versions or what's different.