As long as he stages the pretzel-choking scene with multiple angles, I'm there.
http://www.cinematical.com/2008/03/27/oliver-stone-casts-dubyas-parents/
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Why couldn't anyone besides Oliver Stone be the first to take this on?
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
has anyone noticed that oliver stone is a weirdo?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link
No. Never have.
― kenan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link
The writer did the Giuliani TV movie that starred James Woods.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link
winners all
― gabbneb, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha oh man this is gonna be funny
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm unclear if this is gonna be a birth-to-surge all-in life story
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link
omg this is gonna be the best ever !!!
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
I lobby for James Woods as Rumsfeld
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
That James Woods Giuliani movie is insane.
― C0L1N B..., Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
im assuming we can rely on stone to paint the least flattering picture possible? but after that 9/11 bullshit im not so sure. i mean not one hint at a conspiracy or anything?
alls im saying is oliver stone just be oliver stone here - now is the time we need you.
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
who will play Cheney!?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Cromwell is a good choice
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Thing is this is NOT going to be funny. It's going to be a completely humorless take on a subject that is almost impossible to make humorless.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link
who for Fredo Gonzales? Javier Bardem?
Don't forget how unexpectedly soft Nixon turned out...
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link
oh come on hurting theres really no such thing as a not hilarious stone pic
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
kinda can't wait for this!!
― s1ocki, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
and ya jhoshea otm
yeah I kinda like Nixon and it IS funny (Woods as Haldeman! Discovering all the doorknobs in the oval office are missing! Praying on bended knee with Kissinger!)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
resemblance be damned, Steve Coogan for Tony Blair
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
steve carell for tony blair
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
shadoe stevens for tony blair
― s1ocki, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Steve Carell for 'Brownie'!
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
hmmm i like it
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
its too bad Burgess Meredith isn't around to play Cheney
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Alexander was rough going (but did have some big roffles as they went)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
the doors movie is one of the top comedies ever committed to film
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Sacha Baron Cohen as Saddam
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Robert Downey Jr as Condoleeza Rice
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Cate Blanchett as Bono
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
omg if he did this in a natural born killers motif w/our casting suggestions it really would be the best movie ever
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
The only way I could even get through the trailer of World Trade Centre was to decide the whole thing was a piss-take.
This would make it all worthwhile, especially if every other actor played things deadly serious.
― chap, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Terrence Howard as Powell
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Larry David as Cheney.
― chap, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
martin landau as wolfowitz
― s1ocki, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago) link
wait Landau's dead
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Larry David as Cheney!!!!
yes
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Martin Short as Nancy Pelosi
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
This will be terrible. Oliver Stone is such a hamfisted, pious director.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Cheney's the toughest to cast, and obv crucial. maybe Woody Harrelson padded in a bald wig.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link
This will be fantastic. Oliver Stone is such a hamfisted, pious director.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
woody must factor in somewhere
― jhøshea, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link
Meatloaf as Roger Clemens
― wanko ergo sum, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
woody could be W.'s alcoholic devil past, resting on W.'s shoulder during crucial times and whispering sweet cocaine dreams in his ear
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I hope he scouts for locations high on mushrooms for this one too (a la desert scenes in NBK).
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually one of the worst things about it being so soon is that it will not include the drunken post-presidential downward spiral.
― Hurting 2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link
How much of the film will occur in DC vs various golf courses and vacation homes?
Laura's already cast, btw:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20186389,00.html
Stone, who wrote the screenplay with his Wall Street co-writer Stanley Weiser, has been openly critical of Bush's invasion of Iraq, but he has said the biopic will present a fair and accurate portrait, focused on things like his relationship with his father, President George H.W. Bush, his wild younger days, and his conversion to Christianity. Stone was quoted in Variety last January as saying, ''People have turned my political ideas into a cliche, but that is superficial. I'm a dramatist who is interested in people, and I have empathy for Bush as a human being, much the same as I did for Castro, Nixon, Jim Morrison, Jim Garrison, and Alexander the Great.'' Shooting on W is scheduled to start in late April.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
ha, he DID direct Alexander didn't he? I completely erased that movie from memory.
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link
god do people even remember this movie? brolin is a big star, and i feel like no one even remembers that he played the sitting president of the united states in an oliver stone film.
― Noblesse J. Blige (jaymc), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:32 (ten years ago) link
he's not really that big of a star; viz. oldboy
this movie was completely forgettable is the issue. toothless and forgettable
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:37 (ten years ago) link
Case in point. I'd completely forgotten about it until the thread was bumped.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 6 December 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link
there was one good part of this movie
it was when bush and advisors are debating something in the oval office. suddenly a grumpy voice mutters something and stone either cuts away or pans over and it's revealed that cheney was there all along, standing against the wall
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link
haha wasn't it, like, richard dreyfuss, too?
― Noblesse J. Blige (jaymc), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:46 (ten years ago) link
yup, he's grimacing and kind of hunched over
stone should have made a biopic of that dude
"loving husband, trusting parent, the greatest threat to the ideals he purports to believe in"
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 6 December 2013 05:52 (ten years ago) link
― nickalicious, Thursday, March 27, 2008
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 December 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link
should have been more scenes anticipating post-presidency visual art techniques/aesthetics
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 6 December 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
should have had george senior discussing being a sock man and saying "bieb"
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Friday, 6 December 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link
bump
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
this one was pretty good
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
it was innnnnnteresting but 'good' is a bump too far
― son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
could've used more laughs but it was oddly sympathetic. well, as sympathetic as you could be to a congenital idiot with daddy issues that ruined the country.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
i think at the time it came out it felt kind of weird and jolting to see a sympathetic take on GWB. dunno if it's 'good' or worth a revisit but it kinda stayed with me more than i expected.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
I thought this was v good - unusually restrained for Stone, and it felt small in scope almost to the point of claustrophobia, it's primarily concerned with this weird hermetically sealed environment that Dubya exists in and in that sense it was very good at teasing out his motivations and internal conflicts even when he (submoron that he is) was totally oblivious to them.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
has anyone watched stone's 'untold history' miniseries from a year or so ago?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 July 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
yeah they're the fuckin bomb. Episode 6 about the Cuban Missile Crisis was incredible. they're edited at a ridiculous pace for TV documentaries though, that would be my one small gripe.
― piscesx, Thursday, 24 July 2014 06:44 (nine years ago) link
I liked W. I do wish there were more scenes of bush and his cabinet wandering through wilderness. Love love love the visual portrayal of Rove, he looks like a fucking Dilbert character or something.
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 July 2014 07:00 (nine years ago) link
it's primarily concerned with this weird hermetically sealed environment that Dubya exists in and in that sense it was very good at teasing out his motivations and internal conflicts
Yeah, otm.
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 July 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link
gimme a fucking break this was fucking terrible, like a fucking 2 hour unfunny SNL skit
― marcos, Thursday, 24 July 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
i also think it's an insanely difficult and probably futile task to sucessfully portray public figures who have the level of visibility of bush, et al. while they are still in office running the country. just ends looking like bad impressions and bad makeup regardless of how good the acting is
― marcos, Thursday, 24 July 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
I watched this again because of this thread--third or fourth time. I don't like it that much, but for the same reasons other people level at Nixon, which I do. The only performances that work for me are Posey, Cromwell, and Dreyfuss; everybody else seems grotesque, especially Brolin and Newton.
― clemenza, Thursday, 24 July 2014 17:46 (nine years ago) link
brolin is on letterman right now and is pretty hilarious. he's kind of awesomely handsome right now; getting a bit of a ronald colman vibe from him these days.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Ronald_Colman_-_publicity.jpg
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2014 05:21 (nine years ago) link
he plays hard-bitten working-class characters so often (maybe because of his weathered face and physique?) but his own speaking voice and cadences have a faintly dandyish quality.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2014 05:23 (nine years ago) link
no love for josh brolin hm
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 29 December 2014 22:18 (nine years ago) link
i'm a brolin fan. he's always had some great presence, i think i first noticed it for real when he owned russell crowe and denzel washington in their shared 'american gangster' scenes.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 29 December 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
i hope he's dealt with his alcohol problem. that made me sad.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 29 December 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
lookin sharp
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/13/1415839588362_Image_galleryImage_Picture_Shows_Josh_Brolin.JPG
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 29 December 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
Terrific in Inherent Vice.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 December 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
big ups to brolin, lol.
has anyone seen W since 2008? i feel like it would be really weird to see again.
― Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Saturday, 27 August 2016 06:04 (seven years ago) link
Everyone was so mad about Bush back then, hard to remember what the big deal was
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Saturday, 27 August 2016 06:07 (seven years ago) link
wasn't a Democrat
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 August 2016 06:08 (seven years ago) link
hard to remember what the big deal was
O rly? Go back and take another look at the Iraq War, at waterboarding & Abu Ghraib & 'dark sites', and at the financial crisis that almost brought down the world. Even before 9/11, go back and look at his inheriting a budget surplus and promptly turning it into a huge deficit via tax cuts for the wealthiest 1%. That fucker ruined whatever he touched.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
he doesn't deserve mere ironic dismissal into the memory hole. our red-hot contempt should never be allowed to fade away.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 27 August 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
this is an insane thing to say.
this was on netflix last summer so i watched it for the first time since seeing it in the theater. it seemed...oddly slight. considering the characters, the stakes, the fact that it was a dude tackling a sitting president, etc. i am not an oliver stone hater -- thought at his best i think he only rises to the level of enjoyable batshit melodrama -- but it lacked even the a-cokehead-reads-the-nation intensity that gives his crappy work some verve.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:04 (seven years ago) link
many xps
2008 feels like yesterday. At first I thought silby meant what was the big deal about the movie. Bush years cast a long shadow. Feels like we're still in them. The movie is slight bc it was rushed: principal photography started in May 2008 (!!)
― flappy bird, Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
doesn't feel like yesterday to me - sometimes I remember that Dubya was President for two terms and it feels vaguely unreal
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
in part because even with Obama's massive flaws, it feels like we've made real strides on important things (gay marriage, abortion rights isn't purely on the defensive, people actually talk and care about police brutality/personal rights/privacy, etc.) vs the nadir of the Bush years that felt like the end of anything positive happening
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
also because he nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, how the fuck did that ever make it past more than a couple of interns spitballing names
Harriet Miers looks like Virginia Woolf compared to Kellyanne Conway and Donald Trump.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
karl rove looks like he was drawn by garry treudeau or berkeley breathed
― brimstead, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
(in this film)
This is Stone's last good film. Cast is great, scope is tightly focused.
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:33 (seven years ago) link
waiting for Brolin to play Rick Perry in a biopic
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
"thought at his best i think he only rises to the level of enjoyable batshit melodrama"
i swear i am not a chuck palahniuk fansite moderator when i say: natural born killers was something more than this. i have no idea if it was him at his best and it was certainly batshit, but that was some sort of cinematic something or other that was very memorable on the big screen.
i still feel like he doesn't get enough credit for the use of SOUND in that movie. and i never understood why more people didn't follow his lead. it was a true sensurround experience. i was totes impressed at the time.
kinda didn't need another 20+ year of IT'S THE MEDIA DO YOU SEE???? after that one. but what are ya gonna do?
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
(although part of me feels like he just saw wild at heart and said to himself: i can top that!)
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
nbk is definitely...an experience. it's like an american takashi miike movie.
also one of the few movies where i like the extended cut more. if only for the shot of tommy lee jones's head on a spike.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
I like Stone in batshit epic mode, The Doors, JFK, NBK, Nixon. I've never seen W, but if it's like that, I'd definitely see it.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
and as far as 90's heads in duffel bags go, i think U Turn is kinda underrated.
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
plus, the cast of U Turn is just ridiculous. where is the behind the scenes footage of jon voight, billy bob, nick nolte, and sean penn hangin' with j-lo?
― scott seward, Saturday, 27 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link