the fact that grrm thinks that kings landing would be bigger than a mediaeval london or paris is the problem really, there is no reasonable basis for that imo except, yknow, this is fantasy so fuck it i guess
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
all the cities seem super small on the show
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
like i wouldve thought kings landing was like 10k
lol, google comes up with the goods: http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/blueroom/demog.htm
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Wouldn't it be effective for Dany to where a fire crown or something? Wouldn't hurt her, would be gnarly.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
Literal fire on a crown I mean.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Just a little "Why wouldn't they have thought of this?" kind of idea.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
it was a bit of a slow ep
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
xp probably mechanically challenging. she could dip a crown in oil and light it, but it wouldn't burn for very long. or i suppose she could build a little fire inside the crown and have someone drop twigs in there throughout the day the keep it going.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
also i think her survivng the bonfire is supposed to be like a one-time miracle and not necessarily a sustained superpower
― ciderpress, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
the dragons can be in charge of stoking it they dont seem to have anything better to do lazy dragons
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
Doesn't have to last all day even- it would be a helpful intimidation tool when meeting people she aims to intimidate
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
She also wasn't hurt by the scalding hot tub water in season 1(?) so I figured it's a constant attribute.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
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oh wow. "where = wear" a few posts up. I hate typo-ing like that.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
There was a moment earlier in the first season where she was unaffected by high heat, tho
― polyphonic, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
Martin: No, no Targaryans are immune to fire. The thing with Dany and the dragons, that was just a one-time magical event, very special and unique. The Targaryans can tolerate a bit more heat than most ordinary people, they like really hot baths and things like that, but that doesn't mean they're totally immune to fire, no. Dragons, on the other hand, are pretty much immune to fire.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
i like how the dragons keep growing
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
also, i think the dragons burned the shackles off of her in the Tower of something something too.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
and i liked how they added breaker of chains to her title and shes a hardcore abolitionist now
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
also kind of enjoyed how Joffrey is likely right about the dragons while Tywin is so very wrong.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that was a good scene
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
ya classic professional hubris blind to the black swan (dragon) where the mind of a child can see
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
wasnt sure tywin was being totally sincere there, felt more like he was like just trying to shut the kid up so he could go about the business of governing the kingdom himself
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
could be but not worrying abt baby dragons across the sea while fighting a war on yr doorstep seems p sensible
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Every scene with Tywin this season involves very symbolic physical positioning/actions during conversations.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
ya but this is tywin the master schemer, its like his raison d'etre to squelch any possible threats to his house, i bet he's not taking this lightly
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
it's like watching a black hole, he just sucks everyone else's perceived power right out of them when he holds court, it's awesome to watch it work
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
ok i have a question, danys sidekick solider guy, he was/is a spy for the lannisters? a few weeks ago in the previously on game of thrones segment they had a scene from the first season that i didnt remember where he was warning them abt her via letter i think that made it seem like that was the case
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
ya i cant remember if he was outed or not??
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
its seems like hes fully onboard #teamdragon now tho right
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
he was always conflicted iirc cuz he had a lovebone for daenerys
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
he is/was working for varys iirc. as far as the show goes, he has not been rumbled and i don't recall him officially renouncing anything.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Monday, May 13, 2013 2:52 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i guess he is always hanging around that dragon burned castle
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
tywin is kind of the avatar of cynicism - mundane power and materialism. i think he would at least resist the notion of the return of magic, maybe be in denial if up close to it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
― ciderpress, Monday, May 13, 2013 2:24 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
also in the book it singed all her hair off
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
flaming crown idea less promising by the minute
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
this isnt the book man... its the show
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
Are Robb and his bannermen really at war, or does he just hang out in tents a lot.
― polyphonic, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
the fighting has been *in-tents*!
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
They've had some downtime reserved for sex that can't wait until Mom completely leaves the tent and war planning/note writing that can't wait until underwear is first put back on.
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
The Targaryans can tolerate a bit more heat than most ordinary people, they like really hot baths and things like that, but that doesn't mean they're totally immune to fire, no.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, May 13, 2013 2:38 PM (1 hour ago)
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, May 13, 2013 3:42 PM (17 minutes ago)
Compromise?:http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/wooda/171/unclemoe.jpg
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah robb is being boring can his wife turn out to be a spy or something cool those scenes are mostly zzz
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 May 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
idgi one week John snow and his wilding gf are pledging loyalty to no one but each other and the next she's all amped to attack the wall,shouldn't they be planning their escape abt now
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe ultimately loyal to only each other?
― Evan, Monday, 13 May 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
idk
Yeah I interpreted that arrangement as them going along with the plan as it stands, but Jon has Ygritte's back if shit gets real with whoever they're about to start fighting irrespective of his true status as a Crow (no Watch left though really so I dunno), and in turn Ygritte has Jon's back irrespective of his status as a Crow as and when Gareth from The Office goes postal on him in an attempt to win Ygritte's love and/or the other Wildlings find out what Jon's really all about.
― Windsor Davies, Monday, 13 May 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
sure but why not just take off instead of risking death you know
― lag∞n, Monday, 13 May 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
as far as the show goes, he has not been rumbled and i don't recall him officially renouncing anything.
iirc there was a bit in season 2 (when Dany'd lost her dragons) when the mysterious woman in the gold full-face mask thing calls him out & asks if he'll betray Dany again and he says he won't.
but he's not been rumbled by Dany.
― ✌_✌ (c sharp major), Monday, 13 May 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
this was a fairly boring episode imo - the whole let's go back to harrenhall thing is just like "yeesh okay."
― ... (LocalGarda), Monday, 13 May 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link